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2013-02-05 01:36:48 AM
They really shouldn't be called "Commandments", then.

Religion demands obedience and submission to their edicts and provide negative consequences (Hell) for those who don't obey; even one of the Commandments says that you can't have any other god above this one.

These atheist "commandments" aren't orders at all, rather suggestions on how to be a well adjusted, functioning member of society. There's no consequences involved with not adhering to them.
 
2013-02-05 02:16:05 AM
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2013-02-05 06:49:39 AM
As an atheist, there's really only one "commandment" I try to live my life by.

Don't be an asshat (except on Fark)
 
2013-02-05 07:49:37 AM
Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky
 
2013-02-05 07:52:34 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky


picturespoilers.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-05 08:08:07 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky


I can't see your dick, does that mean it doesn't exist?

/ BURN, THREAD, BURN
 
2013-02-05 08:08:22 AM

miss diminutive: They really shouldn't be called "Commandments", then.

Religion demands obedience and submission to their edicts and provide negative consequences (Hell) for those who don't obey; even one of the Commandments says that you can't have any other god above this one.

These atheist "commandments" aren't orders at all, rather suggestions on how to be a well adjusted, functioning member of society. There's no consequences involved with not adhering to them.


It's like atheists are expected to live through the application of reason.
 
2013-02-05 08:08:23 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky

[picturespoilers.files.wordpress.com image 704x550]


Harvey > God
 
2013-02-05 08:09:50 AM
There is but one atheist commandment: reject God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.
 
2013-02-05 08:10:13 AM

miss diminutive: They really shouldn't be called "Commandments", then.

Religion demands obedience and submission to their edicts and provide negative consequences (Hell) for those who don't obey; even one of the Commandments says that you can't have any other god above this one.

These atheist "commandments" aren't orders at all, rather suggestions on how to be a well adjusted, functioning member of society. There's no consequences involved with not adhering to them.


Well, only the consequences Society agrees to, anyway.
 
2013-02-05 08:10:56 AM
Thou shalt be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie, and try REALLY hard not to kill anybody.

/Joe Bless You
 
2013-02-05 08:11:52 AM
i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-05 08:11:53 AM
religion is for teh weak, atheism included
 
2013-02-05 08:12:47 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.


Rejecting something acknowledges that it exists.
 
2013-02-05 08:13:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.


You left something out. Slight difference, there.
 
2013-02-05 08:13:28 AM
Oh great.  Ok everyone. Figure out if your children have become strangely absent.  They're on the menu if they haven't.

(I love deliberately misreading things)
 
2013-02-05 08:14:44 AM
Aw, man.

I thought half the fun of being an atheist was not having to obey a bunch of rules.
 
2013-02-05 08:14:59 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: religion is for teh weak, atheism included


Ooh. You almost got me. This one is good.
 
2013-02-05 08:15:12 AM

aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.

You left something out. Slight difference, there.


Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.
 
2013-02-05 08:15:34 AM
11. Don't be a dick because you have a different opinion

/actually thats for everyone
 
2013-02-05 08:15:35 AM
And unfortunately that article was about as long as the Book of Exodus.
 
2013-02-05 08:15:57 AM
It's not one of the Jewish commandments either, is it?
 
2013-02-05 08:16:14 AM
11. Popcorn: For the internet debates
 
2013-02-05 08:16:16 AM
Be excellent to each other.

/Party on, dudes.
 
2013-02-05 08:17:12 AM
Babies are for a special occasion. We can't just eat babies every day, its not healthy.

/I live by Wheaton's law.
//why remember 10, when you can remember 1?
 
2013-02-05 08:17:18 AM

The 10 Commandments for atheists.


It would be nice if everybody could/would use them.
 
2013-02-05 08:18:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.

You left something out. Slight difference, there.

Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.


Dude, you trollin' again? I accept that others' belief in God exists. I have none. I reject the concept as unsupported by reason or evidence.

Of course, if I did accept the existence of the Christian god, I would still reject it. I don't like genocide half as much as that asshole.
 
2013-02-05 08:18:16 AM
Those are good rules for anyone, faith or no.

And it almost sounds like he's reverse-engineering Buddhism from the ground up...
 
2013-02-05 08:19:28 AM

aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.

You left something out. Slight difference, there.

Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.

Dude, you trollin' again? I accept that others' belief in God exists. I have none. I reject the concept as unsupported by reason or evidence.

Of course, if I did accept the existence of the Christian god, I would still reject it. I don't like genocide half as much as that asshole.


Refuse to believe in God, Reject God. Eh. It's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
 
2013-02-05 08:19:29 AM
This guy's right and so is everyone else in this thread.  Religion is just silly! All it's ever done is provide a structure for the complex questions that each and every person feels deep within their own being! I mean, who gives a crap about that stuff?
 
2013-02-05 08:19:56 AM
Why would this list be exclusively for atheists?  Everyone should be generally in line with this.
 
2013-02-05 08:20:20 AM
God already did it

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-05 08:20:54 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.


Hmmm. I'm an agnostic pantheist, but I know that people who say they believe in god are lying. And so do they.
 
2013-02-05 08:21:06 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.

You left something out. Slight difference, there.

Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.

Dude, you trollin' again? I accept that others' belief in God exists. I have none. I reject the concept as unsupported by reason or evidence.

Of course, if I did accept the existence of the Christian god, I would still reject it. I don't like genocide half as much as that asshole.

Refuse to believe in God, Reject God. Eh. It's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.


Belief in the legitimacy/supremacy/necessity/goodness of a being is one thing. Its existence, completely another.
 
2013-02-05 08:21:08 AM
Quick, someone tell Dawkins about #10... Confidence is not arrogance.

/not a theist.
 
2013-02-05 08:21:16 AM
Don't eat where you poop?
 
2013-02-05 08:21:33 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky

I can't see your dick, does that mean it doesn't exist?

Maybe you should turn around.
 Maybe

 
2013-02-05 08:22:37 AM
Even though what the guy who came up with the 10 commandments for atheists seems well intentioned the very idea of accepting a codified set of rules seems silly.

It implies atheists lack a structure to live by, and that is true, but why do we need to build a new structure in the place of religion?

If we are to build such a structure to replace the old I suggest we model ourselves after the Fonz and just be cool.
 
2013-02-05 08:23:47 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.




"Put no other god before me*" appears in other religions.
Nothing unusual there.

/Just that "god" will be played by the part of Richard Dawkins or yourself.
/...tho there are man centric religions too.
 
2013-02-05 08:24:05 AM
The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.
 
2013-02-05 08:24:33 AM
Well that was obnoxious on every level. Mankind is the only animal that believes the deity sits up nights admiring him.

/Is it Friday yet? I want a hot dog.
 
2013-02-05 08:26:33 AM

domo_kun_sai: The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.


Maybe he had something to hide, like "I'm not really the Supreme being, but this one tribe of sheep farkers thinks I am."
 
2013-02-05 08:26:44 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky

I can't see your dick, does that mean it doesn't exist?

/ BURN, THREAD, BURN


If I couldn't see it, I would believe I was obese
 
2013-02-05 08:27:28 AM

way south: /Just that "god" will be played by the part of Richard Dawkins or yourself.
/...tho there are man centric religions too.


I don't think the comparison between worship of the self and worship of an external entity is a fair one. Worship of an outside force is linked inextricably with obeisance, and self "worship" does not have that downside.
 
2013-02-05 08:28:54 AM
Ah yes, this guy. He was the guy who made a splash a while ago for suggesting that there were certain aspects of religion that atheists should adopt for both holistic and PR reasons, and most of what I've read about him since then has been along those same lines. As such, I tend to have mixed feelings. On the one hand I understand that people find comfort, grounding, and community in ceremony, codes, traditions, etc., so I don't object to that, per se - do what you need to do to stay sane.

However, I also tend to agree a lot with a few criticisms of his ideas. First, part of what gives religion its ability to gain/retain adherents is its coerciveness. At the worst, this can be "do X or Hell," but even in more positive communities, you're still getting a message that "belonging to X is a better way/the best way/the only way to truly live." An atheist community won't have that luxury of being able to say that. We've already got a religion that draws from various traditions but doesn't make you believe any of them: The Unitarian Universalists. They can be nice people, but they lack a great deal of what people find motivating about religion.

The second criticism I agree with is that it's incredibly condescending and paternalistic to imply "Well, the little people are so stupid that they will never break free from harmful religions unless we introduce a pseudo-religion to act as a palatable substitute." Not only is this tremendously disrespectful to people that you want as your allies, but many of the people who have left religious communities are very, very sensitive to any institution that tries to establish creeds, create organized structures for endorsing standards of behavior, or act authoritarian. Some atheists admire or miss religious traditions and might be open to the idea, but a lot of them want absolutely nothing to do with anything that even resembles a religion, so if you tell them there's an "atheist church" that they ought to join they will tell you you ought to go fark yourself.
 
2013-02-05 08:28:58 AM
Okay, so the list has nothing specifically to do with atheists. It has nothing to do with the concept of "10 commandments" - a term that was apparently just spontaneously and arbitrarily chosen. It's a generic list of suggestions on how to be a good/happy person that could apply to anyone.

de Button is an atheist who is so in love with religion that he can't see anything outside of that box as any kind of cognitive framework for understanding.

He's constantly pulling crap like this.
 
2013-02-05 08:28:59 AM
Hitch did it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNtsq3LYl1E
8 is the best.
NSFW language.
 
2013-02-05 08:29:32 AM
Those arent for atheists. They are for people.
 
2013-02-05 08:29:43 AM
Also, what the hell kind of word is REPSHSFHC? Was he starting out on one of those self help acronyms, had a few brandys too many, and just went "fark it, ten commandments"
 
2013-02-05 08:29:55 AM

domo_kun_sai: The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.


He has problems with sexual inadequacy; it manifests in other areas. I mean, just one liason with that Mary chick, and that's it man; that's his whole love life. 2000 years of pent-up sexuality. Why do you think he hates it when his creations get all that crazy, spider-monkey sex, but he's but pounding his divine Pud ever since that one (probably completely un-landscaped) Middle-Eastern chick.

Dude is chafin'.
 
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