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(Talking Points Memo)   Survivalists building a walled "Prepper" community get a gift from the ATF: They can now start legally manufacturing firearms. What's the worst that could happen?   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 577
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2013-02-04 09:40:38 PM
I think we all know where The Citadel is heading:

lh3.ggpht.com

/No gods, no kings, only DERP!
 
2013-02-04 09:41:47 PM

theorellior: sheep snorter: Good move ATF. Lets make it look like America committed self defense against the rats.

Every time I see that diagram I wonder how many acres of farmland they have set aside for cultivation, whether they're going to use good soil conservation, mulch-and-till practices, and yearly crop rotation schedules so that they don't rely on industrially-produced fertilizer and actually could survive the collapse of society. Or whether all that shiat's just enviro-nazi talk and they're just gonna get a tractor-trailer from WalMart every month to keep their fridges full of hot dogs and col' beer.



If its a true prepper community, they will have fish hydroponics which is a self sustaining ecosystem of edible plants and fish, as well as gardens, greenhouses, a water source, water purification and so on. They will basically do all the work themselves, even make their own alcohol (which is also legal as long as it isn't spirits, because during the process of making spirits if its not done right it can turn into pure methanol which is a deadly poison) but wine and beer is fine.
 
2013-02-04 09:42:01 PM
They're gonna need a lot of financial backing, and illegal immigrants, to make this utopia come true. When was the last time white folk built anything worth a damn that wasn't on the backs of others?

I guess to keep costs down they can farm out their Integrity to China.
 
2013-02-04 09:42:10 PM

jso2897: Yeah, I don't get it. I think these people are fools, and I mock them - but you, me, or anybody willing to jump through the prerequisite hoops can legally manufacture guns - and as long as these people do so lawfully, I have no particular problem with them doing it.


I have no problem with them manufacturing guns, more power to them. I just think getting a bunch of paranoid survivalists together to do nothing but make guns is a situation with a unsustainable feedback loop.
 
2013-02-04 09:42:38 PM

MagicMissile: I'll buy one of their firearms just to see how good it is.


it's exactly as good as the colt or bushmaster or ruger or whatever stock parts they used, minus whatever derptitude they managed to swage in there during the assembly.

If you're reeeeaaaaallllllllly lucky, they're building "guns" out of kits they bought from the back pages of shotgun news.
 
2013-02-04 09:43:04 PM

MagicMissile: I'll buy one of their firearms just to see how good it is.


You've got a stiffy, don't you? You're so cute. It's like you think they've accomplished something unusual.
 
2013-02-04 09:43:21 PM
Well, if that prepper show is any indicator...these types aren't really good with firearms, or anything else...

The two times I have watched it, I saw one guy blow half his thumb off, then he passed out.
Then I saw another guy almost deafen his friend (to deaf!) by firing in an enclosed area.  The friend promptly vomited, then cried, actually, cried...


Sure, give them the right to build their own weapons, odds are it is only to their detriment.
 
2013-02-04 09:43:52 PM

CygnusDarius: The Chechen rebels have been doing it for quite some time , but I've always thought that gun-manufacturing has been the last bastion of American-made products. I could be wrong, though.


Really? 80% lowers and AK blanks are your best friend when you're on a budget. Find someone with a mill and a set of micrometers, or in the case of the AK, a simple drill press and fine calipers, and you're in business for a fraction of the cost. Can't xfer as it's not serialized, but chances are, the guy who's milling 80% lowers or drilling AK blanks at $40 a pop isn't really looking to sell.

If MD takes any longer on my state BGC, I'll probably have been better off milling my own FAL upper. They're up to 4 weeks of backlog now on what is supposed to be a 3 day waiting period.
 
2013-02-04 09:44:24 PM

willfullyobscure: MagicMissile: I'll buy one of their firearms just to see how good it is.

it's exactly as good as the colt or bushmaster or ruger or whatever stock parts they used, minus whatever derptitude they managed to swage in there during the assembly.

If you're reeeeaaaaallllllllly lucky, they're building "guns" out of kits they bought from the back pages of shotgun news.


Shhh. He's living the fantasy. No need to bring facts into it.
 
2013-02-04 09:44:47 PM

theorellior: jso2897: Yeah, I don't get it. I think these people are fools, and I mock them - but you, me, or anybody willing to jump through the prerequisite hoops can legally manufacture guns - and as long as these people do so lawfully, I have no particular problem with them doing it.

I have no problem with them manufacturing guns, more power to them. I just think getting a bunch of paranoid survivalists together to do nothing but make guns is a situation with a unsustainable feedback loop.


They're not manufacturing anything. the FFL gives them the legal right to assemble parts into working guns. Pretty much anyone that tinkers with firearms gets one if they plan on giving away or selling their kit guns when they're done. Manufacturing is not what is happening here. "mail order gun kits" is what is happening here.
 
2013-02-04 09:44:58 PM

GUTSU: No where in the article says they made their fort town because they fear the government. Where people got that idea I don't know, since the article mentions they made it because they "want to be ready for society's collapse, and who want to live around more guns and fewer liberals in the meantime."

It's basically a gated community.


That's the general assumption, however wrong, regarding such groups. They must fear the government because it's the least absurd idea, however absurd it may be. It's hard to imagine that they really believe society is about to collapse, unless they are actively involved in causing that collapse.
 
2013-02-04 09:45:13 PM
Good for them.  Those guns (if any actually get into production) will become collector items immediately...that is as long as they don't blow up in someone's face while shooting them.
 
2013-02-04 09:45:24 PM

CygnusDarius: The Chechen rebels have been doing it for quite some time , but I've always thought that gun-manufacturing has been the last bastion of American-made products. I could be wrong, though.


You'd be wrong, A lot of firearms companies have been moving production overseas. Even Remington is thinking about moving.
 
2013-02-04 09:45:48 PM

billygeek: They're gonna need a lot of financial backing, and illegal immigrants, to make this utopia come true. When was the last time white folk built anything worth a damn that wasn't on the backs of others?

I guess to keep costs down they can farm out their Integrity to China.


You'reNotHelping.jpg
 
2013-02-04 09:46:53 PM

willfullyobscure: theorellior: jso2897: Yeah, I don't get it. I think these people are fools, and I mock them - but you, me, or anybody willing to jump through the prerequisite hoops can legally manufacture guns - and as long as these people do so lawfully, I have no particular problem with them doing it.

I have no problem with them manufacturing guns, more power to them. I just think getting a bunch of paranoid survivalists together to do nothing but make guns is a situation with a unsustainable feedback loop.

They're not manufacturing anything. the FFL gives them the legal right to assemble parts into working guns. Pretty much anyone that tinkers with firearms gets one if they plan on giving away or selling their kit guns when they're done. Manufacturing is not what is happening here. "mail order gun kits" is what is happening here.


Since when do you need an FFL to buy parts and put them together.... oh thats right, you don't.
 
2013-02-04 09:47:08 PM

MagicMissile: Keep making assumptions, its what your kind are best at.


So cute! My kind. You mean a Montana hunter? That kind? LMMFAO. You are SO into stereotypes.

I'm not making assumptions. I'm repeating what THEY SAID. No "liberal" thought allowed. No "regular Republicans". Stupid, childish, close-minded shiat like that.

I can see why you are being willfully ignorant about it. Hurts your head to have to actually accept it is a Marxist utopia they are trying to create. Think like us. Act like us. Live only as we tell you.

Your kind NEEDS that type of crap.
 
2013-02-04 09:48:00 PM

MagicMissile: If its a true prepper community, they will have fish hydroponics which is a self sustaining ecosystem of edible plants and fish, as well as gardens, greenhouses, a water source, water purification and so on.


I'm sure you could feed a town of 7,000 people that way if you did it right, but I don't see anything remotely close to "fish hydroponics" in that diagram (the original one, not the altered one above) except for the "reflecting pool". And I'm assuming a true prepper community would have that kind of stuff labelled, annotated and footnoted in any diagrams they drew.
Basically, what I'm saying is, either these folks are "prepping" to fleece the rubes or "prepping" to truck in their meals.
 
2013-02-04 09:48:52 PM

MagicMissile: Since when do you need an FFL to buy parts and put them together.... oh thats right, you don't.


It really makes you sad to realize they are going to use their license to sell kit guns, doesn't it? You REALLY want to believe that have an entire operation to create their own from scratch in there, dontcha?

You are just ADORABLE!!!
 
2013-02-04 09:48:54 PM

doglover: Bloody William: This isn't a big deal. People who can build weapons will build weapons, and it's clear these guys are either too chickenshiat to do so without permission to begin with or too nuts to not do so if the government confirms their fears. If they start bombmaking or creating artillery or anti-air emplacements, then we'll have a problem.

I'm still amused by a community resisting tyranny by centrally planning an entire city. That and the stupidity of building a walled city in Idaho. Because... that's a defensible concept against a modern military.

How long would the modern millitary last in a doomsday scenario?
Who in god's green earth would waste a nuke on idaho to off some whackjobs?

If the world does end, they're not only ready but ideally located. Making their plays legally now means they'll have experience for when they need it and funding for future improvements.

Plus it's a damn good idea to build an old fashioned walled city if society collapses because when push comes to shove missiles require massive infrastructure to utilize but rocks are timeless. We STILL use the great wall of China and a lot of pyramids and temples. A bunker buster might be able to knock it open, but who's dropping that on rednecks?


You're aware that walls keep people both in and out, right?

If "society collapses" then it will be a high value target that could easily be surrounded and laid to siege, never mind that walls have always been deterrents, not really barriers (see: broad history of siege warfare).

Now, build a city under a mountain, with all the capability of providing energy, food, air and spacing for that city indefinitely and you might have something.  Until then, it's just an extra crispy twinky - hard outer shell but really sweet middle.
 
2013-02-04 09:49:00 PM
Why isn't one free to say what they want on freeper.com?
 
2013-02-04 09:49:09 PM

MagicMissile: Shae123: I just love watching liberal butthurt.

So do I,  nothing like watching control freaks not get their way and freak out.


Who's freaking out?
 
2013-02-04 09:50:21 PM

MagicMissile: The government just gave them permission to manufacture their own firearms, the government supports their idea.


Which still means "let them" is the correct language.

That, and the US Government has more than enough firepower and spare capacity to neutralize the contents of this Jonesville and any oath-bound attempts to sabotage said effort.  There's only so far that

I wanted Romney to take office so that your preferred insanity wouldn't happen.

Anyway, PLONK to you, shae123, and oreillor.
 
2013-02-04 09:50:49 PM

sirgrim: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 250x188]
f*ck you government! Thanks for the permit!


Weird!

If it was Rejected, then yes.  This should be Thumbs Up.
 
2013-02-04 09:50:52 PM

billygeek: They're gonna need a lot of financial backing, and illegal immigrants, to make this utopia come true. When was the last time white folk built anything worth a damn that wasn't on the backs of others?

I guess to keep costs down they can farm out their Integrity to China.


What annoys me is that if the the Citadel organizers are jumping through the ATF's hoops to be allowed to manufacture guns legally, then what's to stop them from applying to the government for water pipes, sewage pipes, roads, etc., to be built towards the Citadel? If they want to prove they AREN'T moochers living off a gubbymint that's on borrowed time (in their addlepated minds), then they must not take one red cent of money from any government (local, state, federal, or foreign) to pay for anything. Period.

Have fun in your little Petoria, just don't expect us to bail your asses out when the Citadel turns out to be a combination of Warren Jeff's compound and the Donner Party.
 
2013-02-04 09:50:57 PM

fusillade762: MagicMissile: Shae123: I just love watching liberal butthurt.

So do I,  nothing like watching control freaks not get their way and freak out.

Who's freaking out?


He is over what he imagined the article to be and what he imagined the "libtard" reaction to be
 
2013-02-04 09:51:06 PM
I hear they are renaming the place "Jonestown West"
 
2013-02-04 09:51:08 PM

MagicMissile: mediablitz: MagicMissile: mediablitz: MagicMissile: Shae123: I just love watching liberal butthurt.

So do I,  nothing like watching control freaks not get their way and freak out.

The control freaks GOT their way. They are building a walled "community", remember? They can't HANDLE the real world, so they have to retreat to their controlled paranoia.

Nah, they are just building a community where if the shiat hit the fan, they can close the gates and have more preparedness and protection than the average person.

You guys need to stop living in a fantasy world and smoking meth.

No. they are building a thought police community. You are only allowed to think one way. Very Marxist. Interesting that you would support something like that. I guess freedom scares you.


Keep making assumptions, its what your kind are best at.

This is a free country, I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as they arent hurting someone.


How many non-white people are involved?

/I'm just asking questions
 
2013-02-04 09:51:15 PM

Strolpol: doglover: Bloody William: This isn't a big deal. People who can build weapons will build weapons, and it's clear these guys are either too chickenshiat to do so without permission to begin with or too nuts to not do so if the government confirms their fears. If they start bombmaking or creating artillery or anti-air emplacements, then we'll have a problem.

I'm still amused by a community resisting tyranny by centrally planning an entire city. That and the stupidity of building a walled city in Idaho. Because... that's a defensible concept against a modern military.

How long would the modern millitary last in a doomsday scenario?
Who in god's green earth would waste a nuke on idaho to off some whackjobs?

If the world does end, they're not only ready but ideally located. Making their plays legally now means they'll have experience for when they need it and funding for future improvements.

Plus it's a damn good idea to build an old fashioned walled city if society collapses because when push comes to shove missiles require massive infrastructure to utilize but rocks are timeless. We STILL use the great wall of China and a lot of pyramids and temples. A bunker buster might be able to knock it open, but who's dropping that on rednecks?

Who's talking about nukes? Drones would be far more environmentally friendly, and cheaper.

Heck, even in that futurewar scenario, any idiot could jury-rig a simple drone to drop firebombs.


Except all the drones were destroyed in the post-war fighting and computers have been wiped out since the power grid's been off.

Don't be a tard.
 
2013-02-04 09:51:23 PM

billygeek: They're gonna need a lot of financial backing, and illegal immigrants, to make this utopia come true. When was the last time white folk built anything worth a damn that wasn't on the backs of others?

I guess to keep costs down they can farm out their Integrity to China.


Yup, the evil Caucasian has yet to work. You sound really dumb.
 
2013-02-04 09:51:53 PM
MagicMissile:
If its a true prepper community, they will have fish hydroponics which is a self sustaining ecosystem of edible plants and fish, as well as gardens, greenhouses, a water source, water purification and so on. They will basically do all the work themselves, even make their own alcohol (which is also legal as long as it isn't spirits, because during the process of making spirits if its not done right it can turn into pure methanol which is a deadly poison) but wine and beer is fine.

A bit of a threadjack, but doesn't turn into pure methanol.  Methanol is naturally present in most fermented beverages, more of it in fermented fruit-juice or surgar-water than fermented grain, and it condenses first, before the ethanol.  So methanol is generally only dangerous when you're an idiot and take a massive swig off the first thing to come out of the still.  Just throw away the first 50ml of runnings and you'll be fine.

/Or so I've heard
 
2013-02-04 09:51:53 PM
which is envisioned as a place for 3,500 to 7,000 "patriotic American families"

Outside of a WW2 style conflict, how many people could a factory producing rifles and handguns reasonably expect to employ?

Also, Isn't their planned plot of land something like 4 square miles? Even with only 2 people in an average family they are looking at a very impressive population density for a bunch of survivalists.
 
2013-02-04 09:52:23 PM

fusillade762: MagicMissile: Shae123: I just love watching liberal butthurt.

So do I,  nothing like watching control freaks not get their way and freak out.

Who's freaking out?


The idiots building a walled community that requires you to leave any and all free thinking outside?
 
2013-02-04 09:52:27 PM

sethstorm: Anyway, PLONK to you, shae123, and oreillor.


Hey, what did I do? I'm laughing at the dumbassery as much as you are!
 
2013-02-04 09:52:34 PM

MagicMissile: willfullyobscure: theorellior: jso2897: Yeah, I don't get it. I think these people are fools, and I mock them - but you, me, or anybody willing to jump through the prerequisite hoops can legally manufacture guns - and as long as these people do so lawfully, I have no particular problem with them doing it.

I have no problem with them manufacturing guns, more power to them. I just think getting a bunch of paranoid survivalists together to do nothing but make guns is a situation with a unsustainable feedback loop.

They're not manufacturing anything. the FFL gives them the legal right to assemble parts into working guns. Pretty much anyone that tinkers with firearms gets one if they plan on giving away or selling their kit guns when they're done. Manufacturing is not what is happening here. "mail order gun kits" is what is happening here.

Since when do you need an FFL to buy parts and put them together.... oh thats right, you don't.


you need one to get the magical lower reciever legally, genius. and the class you get determines what you can do with them. Class i can buy and sell functional weapons. Class 2 is pawn shops, IIRC. Class 7 is "build any goofy shiat you want short of a bomb". Hobbyists and machinists get them regularly. takes about 90 days and $200, but then you have pay ITAR fees and other stuff.
 
2013-02-04 09:52:49 PM
A lot of uninformed people a/o trolls here.

Their stated goal is to build a small town for like-minded people to live in and be prepared in case the SHTF. They aren't hurting anyone else so WTF is your problem with this?

They claim to be patriots and nothing about their plan is inherently threatening. So I am a little confused how anyone can get from the information given that these folks are anti-USA, law breakers, rebels, or otherwise a threat or danger to the peace of the USA.

Also, if their goal is to set up this town and live there until the SHTF, then wouldn't it be in their best interest to never break any laws? If they start doing illegal things then the plan will be guaranteed to fall apart, especially if they sell guns.

Sorry, but like 90% of the comments so far are 100% fail.
 
2013-02-04 09:54:02 PM
Reminds me of the episode of Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory" in which he investigates whether the world's elite are creating secret underground fortresses for the end of civilization, which would come in the form of a solar flare in 2012.

It's the "ozarks" episode, if you feel like googling.
 
2013-02-04 09:54:29 PM

mediablitz: You are just ADORABLE!!!


Account created: 2012-08-10 21:10:23

It's an election troll come back to play.
 
2013-02-04 09:54:34 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "There are several counties in Idaho that will work equally well for the Citadel Project if Benewah County fails to offer our Citadel Team suitable incentives."


Awesome.  I'll bet counties are just stumbling over each other for the possibility of having this powder keg prime example of American Exceptionalism.  Who wouldn't want such a paranoid stalwart and delusional bootstrappy group of whackos patriots isolating organizing themselves in a hive self-sufficient camp where they will feed each other's paranoia and delusions become even more patriotic, thereby building psychosis love of defending freedom to the point of an inevitable tragedy that will grab worldwide headlines real life version of Red Dawn when the socialists try to take over Murika.

/It'll never actually get built
 
2013-02-04 09:55:07 PM

willfullyobscure: They're not manufacturing anything. the FFL gives them the legal right to assemble parts into working guns. Pretty much anyone that tinkers with firearms gets one if they plan on giving away or selling their kit guns when they're done. Manufacturing is not what is happening here. "mail order gun kits" is what is happening here.


Yes, well, I was using "manufacture" kinda loosely. That what they think they'll be doing, so why not indulge their little fantasy?
 
2013-02-04 09:55:20 PM
yuuuup. I am SUPAR IMPRASSED with this "manufacturing facility"!!!! Check out the SWEET technology and cutting edge factory floor!!

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iiiarmscompany.com

(this is why everyone hates AR owners, FYI)
 
2013-02-04 09:55:54 PM

theorellior: jso2897: Yeah, I don't get it. I think these people are fools, and I mock them - but you, me, or anybody willing to jump through the prerequisite hoops can legally manufacture guns - and as long as these people do so lawfully, I have no particular problem with them doing it.

I have no problem with them manufacturing guns, more power to them. I just think getting a bunch of paranoid survivalists together to do nothing but make guns is a situation with a unsustainable feedback loop.


Well, utopian communities have a long, and time-honored history - of failure. But they also are very rarely a threat to anyone but themselves - and frankly, I don't much care what happens to them. Since I was a little kid, I've always been aware of the maladjusted whiners who want to "take their ball and go home" - my response has always been "Have a good trip! And a long one!" This whole story is vastly amusing, and anybody who is "butthurt" about it is too damn sensitive.
 
2013-02-04 09:56:11 PM

theorellior: sheep snorter: Good move ATF. Lets make it look like America committed self defense against the rats.

Every time I see that diagram I wonder how many acres of farmland they have set aside for cultivation, whether they're going to use good soil conservation, mulch-and-till practices, and yearly crop rotation schedules so that they don't rely on industrially-produced fertilizer and actually could survive the collapse of society. Or whether all that shiat's just enviro-nazi talk and they're just gonna get a tractor-trailer from WalMart every month to keep their fridges full of hot dogs and col' beer.


I assume that they'll just build a poorly designed pipeline from the north end to the south, call it Keystone to tweak "the liberuls" and the wonder why they aren't getting all the oil money that Limbaugh promised that would be created by it.
 
2013-02-04 09:56:31 PM

MagicMissile: look at all the bashing going on here over this because a group of people have decided to live their life in a way that you don't like.


The absolute refusal (or inability) to recognize the reason for the 'bashing' is astonishing. Nobody cares about people choosing to live their life in any way they want. They are bashing them for their reasons for thinking they need to do it.  They aren't doing it to 'get back to nature' or just be survivalists or just be self-sufficient community. They are doing it because they think society is on the verge of collapse. They are afraid that some massive conspiracy is in the works to try to take their guns or target them for having guns. They aren't just choosing to live an alternate life, they believe in as apocalyptic, and imminent, future. They are being mocked for the latter.
 
2013-02-04 09:56:39 PM

MagicMissile: You guys think you are so free and support rights and all of that, and in reality you are the exact opposite but you are so stupid that you can't see yourself.


LMMFAO. Projection at its finest! No one is stopping them from being paranoid idiots, including the government. They are free to be stupid, just as they are doing. YOU seem to think they are somehow oppressed. Pointing at them and laughing is NOT oppressing them. Allowing them to sell guns is NOT oppressing them.

Yet you are supporting a group that REQUIRES you to submit to only their way of thinking, in order to "join" them. They absolutely refuse to allow differing opinions. They are the truly oppressive ones. One one way of thinking allowed.

Like I said: People like you NEED that. Actually free thought scares the shiat out of you. Hive mind, little boy!

Truly blind, you are.
 
2013-02-04 09:57:04 PM

sethstorm: Anyway, PLONK to you, shae123, and oreillor.


Oh, and not that anyone cares except for me, but it's theorellior, not the orellior.

Carry on.
 
2013-02-04 09:57:31 PM

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2013-02-04 09:57:38 PM

theorellior: willfullyobscure: They're not manufacturing anything. the FFL gives them the legal right to assemble parts into working guns. Pretty much anyone that tinkers with firearms gets one if they plan on giving away or selling their kit guns when they're done. Manufacturing is not what is happening here. "mail order gun kits" is what is happening here.

Yes, well, I was using "manufacture" kinda loosely. That what they think they'll be doing, so why not indulge their little fantasy?


Because these guns suck, and these people suck, and it all feeds into a violent fantasy that will likely up up getting them Koreshed. They should be mocked mercilessly, although i suppose they're a step ahead of the waterheads that will buy these ridiculous firearms from them.
 
2013-02-04 09:58:39 PM

sethstorm: MagicMissile: The government just gave them permission to manufacture their own firearms, the government supports their idea.

Which still means "let them" is the correct language.

That, and the US Government has more than enough firepower and spare capacity to neutralize the contents of this Jonesville and any oath-bound attempts to sabotage said effort.  There's only so far that


Why does your kind get such a hard on at the thought of our government killing its citizens?

Its your kind that should be monitored and investigated if you ask me.
 
2013-02-04 09:58:58 PM

doglover: Strolpol: doglover: Bloody William: This isn't a big deal. People who can build weapons will build weapons, and it's clear these guys are either too chickenshiat to do so without permission to begin with or too nuts to not do so if the government confirms their fears. If they start bombmaking or creating artillery or anti-air emplacements, then we'll have a problem.

I'm still amused by a community resisting tyranny by centrally planning an entire city. That and the stupidity of building a walled city in Idaho. Because... that's a defensible concept against a modern military.

How long would the modern millitary last in a doomsday scenario?
Who in god's green earth would waste a nuke on idaho to off some whackjobs?

If the world does end, they're not only ready but ideally located. Making their plays legally now means they'll have experience for when they need it and funding for future improvements.

Plus it's a damn good idea to build an old fashioned walled city if society collapses because when push comes to shove missiles require massive infrastructure to utilize but rocks are timeless. We STILL use the great wall of China and a lot of pyramids and temples. A bunker buster might be able to knock it open, but who's dropping that on rednecks?

Who's talking about nukes? Drones would be far more environmentally friendly, and cheaper.

Heck, even in that futurewar scenario, any idiot could jury-rig a simple drone to drop firebombs.

Except all the drones were destroyed in the post-war fighting and computers have been wiped out since the power grid's been off.

Don't be a tard.


Are you guys having a discussion, or playing some kind of bizarre RPG?
 
2013-02-04 09:59:03 PM

theorellior: Probably because there have been other threads on these whackaloons here... before you made your account.


OH SNAP. Less than a month in and one approved headline already? Yeah, he's probably one of those modtrolls.
 
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