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2013-02-04 02:30:56 PM  
Well, lift the ban on hunting, and I'll do my best to help.
 
2013-02-04 02:48:40 PM  
Sure, populations are holding steady in some areas, but overall, that trend is not sustainable.  More and more mothers are having single cub litters (when 2-3 used to be the norm), and the lack of food and ice has shot cub mortality rates through the roof.  Top that off with later and thinner ice formations, and 50+ mile swims to find solid ice to hunt from, and the populations will soon take a nose dive.
 
2013-02-04 02:59:13 PM  
Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for contraception for slut bears?
 
2013-02-04 03:18:35 PM  
I imagine I'm going to be hearing this red herring.  I can already see the smug look on the parrot who delivers this packaged as a keen insight.  Then they'll say "now that's an inconvenient truth!"
 
2013-02-04 03:21:06 PM  
And it appears polar bears are up for today's "Republican totally misses the point" story.
 
2013-02-04 03:23:35 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I imagine I'm going to be hearing this red herring.  I can already see the smug look on the parrot who delivers this packaged as a keen insight.  Then they'll say "now that's an inconvenient truth!"


That, or given the source, they're lying entirely out of their asses.
 
2013-02-04 03:25:39 PM  
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NOBODY HURTS MY PENGUINS EXCEPT ME. AND MAYBE POLAR BEARS. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW NATURE IS, GUNTER.
 
2013-02-04 03:25:44 PM  
Stop feeding them!
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2013-02-04 03:26:20 PM  
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2013-02-04 03:28:55 PM  
You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.
 
2013-02-04 03:32:09 PM  
The Daily Caller? Anyone want to sift through the derp? Because I'm not clicking.
 
2013-02-04 03:32:20 PM  

Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.


Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?
 
2013-02-04 03:32:32 PM  
As Sam Kinison Would say, move out of the artic.
 
2013-02-04 03:33:15 PM  
Wait, so global warming isnt killing all the polar bears? Unpossible, there was a consensus
 
2013-02-04 03:34:05 PM  

Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?


I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.
 
2013-02-04 03:35:14 PM  
Well, polar bears are no longing critically endangered so climate change must be a giant hoax. How can you argue with brilliant rationale like that? Nevermind the fact that we are in the midst of a mass extinction, polar bear numbers have rebounded so all is well.
 
2013-02-04 03:36:32 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sure, populations are holding steady in some areas, but overall, that trend is not sustainable.  More and more mothers are having single cub litters (when 2-3 used to be the norm), and the lack of food and ice has shot cub mortality rates through the roof.  Top that off with later and thinner ice formations, and 50+ mile swims to find solid ice to hunt from, and the populations will soon take a nose dive.


That's exactly what was told when I went to watch the polar bears waiting for the ice to freeze in Churchill.

When I was there a couple of years ago the ice was taking 2 weeks longer to freeze than normal. Since polar bears live off stored fat all summer long and barely eat anything during that period they rely on a long hunting season to survive and bear cubs.

Also, polar bears are adorable killing machines:

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2013-02-04 03:37:37 PM  

ordinarysteve: Well, polar bears are no longing critically endangered so climate change must be a giant hoax.


nobody said that, and the author interviewed said it had nothing to do with it.

Or am I supposed to let preemptive derp start derp wars
 
2013-02-04 03:37:53 PM  

Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.


You mean the Boomers?
 
2013-02-04 03:38:24 PM  
I had a chance to touch a real polar bear skin rug back in the 70s and the fur is fantastic.  What's even more amazing is the skin is jet black underneath the white fur.  I can hardly wait until they open hunting season back up on the critters when they start munching on too many Inuit and Athabascans and the tree huggers and bunny buggerers have to save face.
 
2013-02-04 03:38:27 PM  

Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.


That's not really fair, though, is it?  I mean, hypothetically, if Lemurs were overpopulating Madagascar, but a couple of subspecies in particular were the most egregious offenders of over breeding, it wouldn't be fair to restrict the breeding practices of the entire lemur population.

There are human cultures on Earth which are doing the same thing today.  Why punish a country with a low birth rate when India and China can't seem to figure out how to use a rubber?

It's just bad form.
 
2013-02-04 03:39:53 PM  
Such majestic animals - (ignoring the terminator-killing-machine habit, of course).
I saw one rip into a minivan like a fat kid with a Happy Meal. That Inuit reggae band in it didn't stand a chance.
 
2013-02-04 03:40:30 PM  

Cythraul: Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.

That's not really fair, though, is it?  I mean, hypothetically, if Lemurs were overpopulating Madagascar, but a couple of subspecies in particular were the most egregious offenders of over breeding, it wouldn't be fair to restrict the breeding practices of the entire lemur population.

There are human cultures on Earth which are doing the same thing today.  Why punish a country with a low birth rate when India and China can't seem to figure out how to use a rubber?

It's just bad form.


CHINA?! One Child Policy not ringing a bell for you?
 
2013-02-04 03:41:41 PM  

Wayne 985: The Daily Caller? Anyone want to sift through the derp? Because I'm not clicking.


They compare the number of polar bears alive today with the number of that were alive when they were being exterminated by hunters. They don't consider what the polar bear's numbers would be without human influence or in what direction the population is trending.

Remember, we're talking about people that would pee in the pool and say it's clean because it was worse that time they took a dump in the water.
 
2013-02-04 03:42:00 PM  

thecpt: ordinarysteve: Well, polar bears are no longing critically endangered so climate change must be a giant hoax.

nobody said that, and the author interviewed said it had nothing to do with it.

Or am I supposed to let preemptive derp start derp wars


I never meant to start the derp but let's be honest, that is why polar bears are being touted as having rebounded in numbers in this article.
FTA
"Polar bears became a focal point for environmentalists after former Vice President Al Gore featured them in his 2006 global warming documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." The bears were classified as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act to in May 2008 because their habitat was being threatened by global warming.
Unger wanted to write the definitive book on how man-made global warming was destroying polar bear habitats and leading to their extinction. He packed up his family and moved north to Churchill, Manitoba - called the "Polar Bear Capital of the World" because of the large amounts of bears that congregate near it in the autumn."
/Plus read the comments on that article and all you will find is crazies talking about the Illuminati and carbon taxes.
 
2013-02-04 03:43:09 PM  

tlars699: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.

That's not really fair, though, is it?  I mean, hypothetically, if Lemurs were overpopulating Madagascar, but a couple of subspecies in particular were the most egregious offenders of over breeding, it wouldn't be fair to restrict the breeding practices of the entire lemur population.

There are human cultures on Earth which are doing the same thing today.  Why punish a country with a low birth rate when India and China can't seem to figure out how to use a rubber?

It's just bad form.

CHINA?! One Child Policy not ringing a bell for you?


Well, did it actually *WORK*?
 
2013-02-04 03:43:20 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sure, populations are holding steady in some areas, but overall, that trend is not sustainable.  More and more mothers are having single cub litters (when 2-3 used to be the norm), and the lack of food and ice has shot cub mortality rates through the roof.  Top that off with later and thinner ice formations, and 50+ mile swims to find solid ice to hunt from, and the populations will soon take a nose dive.


Do you need a license to predict the future?
Or can just anyone play?
 
2013-02-04 03:45:19 PM  
This is great news because I just came across a great-looking recipe for polar bear tar-tare that I've been dying to try.
 
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2013-02-04 03:45:59 PM  

Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.


So, you were OK with what the Sandy Hook guy did?

/yeah, yeah...I know...too soon
 
2013-02-04 03:46:30 PM  

OscarTamerz: I had a chance to touch a real polar bear skin rug back in the 70s and the fur is fantastic.  What's even more amazing is the skin is jet black underneath the white fur.  I can hardly wait until they open hunting season back up on the critters when they start munching on too many Inuit and Athabascans and the tree huggers and bunny buggerers have to save face.


I dunno.  I hear that these tree huggers and bunny buggerers are also gun grabbers, knife nabbers, and sword swindlers.
 
2013-02-04 03:46:59 PM  

MBooda: Stop feeding them!


www.russiablog.org
 
2013-02-04 03:48:03 PM  

dittybopper: Well, lift the ban on hunting, and I'll do my best to help.


I hope the bear wins.
 
2013-02-04 03:48:07 PM  

dittybopper: tlars699: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: Cythraul: Smoking GNU: You know, i always found it amusing that we humans always saw when a species was becoming dangerously overpopulated in it's native area, and in so doing would endanger the environment with their increased numbers upsetting the delicate balance of the ecosystem, and feel the need to control it in various ways, most usually in forced contraception and culling.


Except where humans are concerned.

Which population of humans would you like to cull and sterilize first?

I'm not picky. How about 40% of all humans everywhere.

That's not really fair, though, is it?  I mean, hypothetically, if Lemurs were overpopulating Madagascar, but a couple of subspecies in particular were the most egregious offenders of over breeding, it wouldn't be fair to restrict the breeding practices of the entire lemur population.

There are human cultures on Earth which are doing the same thing today.  Why punish a country with a low birth rate when India and China can't seem to figure out how to use a rubber?

It's just bad form.

CHINA?! One Child Policy not ringing a bell for you?

Well, did it actually *WORK*?


I think that yes, in fact, their birth rate did indeed drop, so they were exercising some control/culling their population. Hence, they should be held as "responsible". If Africa's infant mortality rate wasn't so high, I would say they're less responsible about their breeding habits than China.
 
2013-02-04 03:50:27 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sure, populations are holding steady in some areas, but overall, that trend is not sustainable.  More and more mothers are having single cub litters (when 2-3 used to be the norm), and the lack of food and ice has shot cub mortality rates through the roof.  Top that off with later and thinner ice formations, and 50+ mile swims to find solid ice to hunt from, and the populations will soon take a nose dive.


Yet....with all the disaster that you state has happened (imaginary or not), the population has increased 5x.
 
2013-02-04 03:51:22 PM  

Maud Dib: dittybopper: Well, lift the ban on hunting, and I'll do my best to help.

I hope the bear wins.


Are bullet-heads allowed to mount machine guns on helicopters in Alaska? You know - for "hunting purposes" & stuff.
 
2013-02-04 03:51:58 PM  
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2013-02-04 03:53:52 PM  

ordinarysteve: /Plus read the comments on that article and all you will find is crazies talking about the Illuminati and carbon taxes.


That is where I expect to find the derp.

But, I felt the interviewer and the author went out of their way to say the population is going up but not in spite of what Al Gore said/ data used.  As in, GW may be detrimental to them but due to current policy/laws the myth about population decline is BUSTED
 
2013-02-04 03:54:24 PM  
The writer is a real bastasch
 
2013-02-04 03:54:36 PM  
 
2013-02-04 03:56:44 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for contraception for slut bears?


I really want to GIS "slut bears,"  but I'll leave that for someone Farking it up at home.
 
2013-02-04 03:58:30 PM  

dabbletech: MBooda: Stop feeding them!

[www.russiablog.org image 298x350]


That got me just about as evil as an Eskimo boy-child can be.

/watch out
 
2013-02-04 03:59:37 PM  

blatz514: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for contraception for slut bears?

I really want to GIS "slut bears,"  but I'll leave that for someone Farking it up at home.


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2013-02-04 03:59:39 PM  
Maybe they dont have enough food to survive because they live in the farkING ARCTIC. MOOOOOVE.

/half sarcastic only
//reminds me of people in Tornado Alley
 
2013-02-04 04:00:26 PM  

dittybopper: CHINA?! One Child Policy not ringing a bell for you?

Well, did it actually *WORK*?


braddlibby.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-04 04:00:39 PM  
wait a sec...

so is he saying that EXPERIENCE OF A SINGLE POLAR BEAR (todays local weather) or a GROUP OF POLAR BEARS ACROSS A LARGE REGION FOR A YEAR (this years world wide weather) can not be looked at to define a BEAR POPULATION PROJECTION for the next 50 years and we should instead look at averages across a wide area and across several years before we come to a conclusion?

huh... if only there was some sort of analogy that could work in relation to global warming so that the global warming deniers/believers could understand this phenomenon better
 
2013-02-04 04:01:02 PM  
I don't understand what the fact that there are more polar bears than there were 40 years ago would have to do with a possible polar bear overpopulation.

But then again, I'm not smoking crack. Would someone who is care to explain?
 
2013-02-04 04:01:59 PM  
But I saw that documentary where the polar bear was swimming in the ocean without an iceberg in sight to stop and rest on...
 
2013-02-04 04:02:02 PM  
Despite being wrong about polar bear populations (at this point) in decline, Al Gore is still about 1000 times smarter than any of his critics on the Right.
 
2013-02-04 04:02:50 PM  

Krieghund: dittybopper: CHINA?! One Child Policy not ringing a bell for you?

Well, did it actually *WORK*?

[braddlibby.files.wordpress.com image 565x375]


Thank you for posting Graph. :)
 
2013-02-04 04:04:00 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sure, populations are holding steady in some areas, but overall, that trend is not sustainable.  More and more mothers are having single cub litters (when 2-3 used to be the norm), and the lack of food and ice has shot cub mortality rates through the roof.  Top that off with later and thinner ice formations, and 50+ mile swims to find solid ice to hunt from, and the populations will soon take a nose dive.


It's from overpoplation Grand.  One of the aspects that environmenatlist mentioned was a situation where a male bear killed and ate a female bear who they claimed was starving.  Upon further investigation the female bears territory had been shrunken by the male bear.  Unfortunately, the confrontation occured outside of mating season.  One way the bears adapt is to have fewer offspring.  This is common in many species of animals.  Too much competition and not enough food.
 
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