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2013-02-04 11:27:59 AM  
I was thinking about this after the Superbowl.

*clicks link*

Marino popping in was the best. Akers cameo was good too.
 
2013-02-04 11:28:11 AM  
Lulz
 
2013-02-04 11:28:48 AM  
Still goes on wayyyy too long, still isn't very funny.
 
2013-02-04 11:31:19 AM  
Not so fast.
 
2013-02-04 11:33:42 AM  
Not enough RW3.
 
2013-02-04 11:37:00 AM  
Loved Wilson's retort to RGIII.
 
2013-02-04 11:37:24 AM  
That needed more funny
 
2013-02-04 11:42:01 AM  
Joe Flacco is finally the equal of Trent Dilfer and  Brad Johnson.

ELITE.
 
2013-02-04 11:43:06 AM  
Best one of the season. The ongoing theme of Roethlisburger being dumber than a rock makes these awesome.
 
2013-02-04 11:44:09 AM  
today's challenge: work out a way to use 'sanctimonious buttdumpling' in normal conversation.
 
2013-02-04 11:46:06 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Akers cameo was good too.


With his photo off-center and wide left, of course.
 
2013-02-04 11:53:43 AM  
Honest NFL Headlines continue to be funnier.
 
2013-02-04 11:59:26 AM  

Uncle Pooky: Honest NFL Headlines continue to be funnier.


your blog continues to suck.

while still in desperate need of an editor there are a few chuckles to be found.
 
2013-02-04 12:05:27 PM  
The "flashback" one from last week may have been better than this week, but if you take out two or three pages of the "elite" schtick, this one was great.
 
2013-02-04 12:37:44 PM  
I think they've been doing great with this, though I admit that half the fun is in wondering just where Russell Wilson is going to pop up with his snappy one-liner. For my money, that suspense is gold every time.

I feel like they toe the line with the inanimate objects and so forth chiming in, though. Sometimes the jokes are funny, sometimes they're not, but it just feels like it's a bit contrived for the Super Bowl Blackout to be posting commentary. Same with some of the outside-the-QB-loop players, coaches and family. Sort of breaks the suspense of disbelief. I'm not sure how that's any worse than anything else, but to me it is.
 
2013-02-04 01:30:17 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Joe Flacco is finally the equal of Trent Dilfer and  Brad Johnson.

ELITE.


His playoff and super bowl wins now equal Peyton Manning, but he is slightly younger.
 
2013-02-04 01:59:20 PM  
*halfway through TFA*
... that just kept going, didn't it?
 
2013-02-04 02:32:53 PM  

LarryDan43: rufus-t-firefly: Joe Flacco is finally the equal of Trent Dilfer and  Brad Johnson.

ELITE.

His playoff and super bowl wins now equal Peyton Manning, but he is slightly younger.


The "knock" on Falco and Eli is the same, they are just as likely to go out and put up an absolute dog of a game as they are to go out and carve the opposing defense like a Thanksgiving turkey.  Luckily for them, their teammates, and their fans, they have brought some of those ridiculously good performances to the postseason.

If Flacco goes a whole season consistently performing well, then dominates in the postseason, then I will be the first on that bandwagon.  If he goes out next year and has several multiple INT games and the Ravens miss the playoffs or limp in and get bounced early, then I will put him firmly in that "Other" category with Eli.
 
2013-02-04 02:47:17 PM  
I laughed.
 
2013-02-04 02:48:41 PM  

roc6783: LarryDan43: rufus-t-firefly: Joe Flacco is finally the equal of Trent Dilfer and  Brad Johnson.

ELITE.

His playoff and super bowl wins now equal Peyton Manning, but he is slightly younger.

The "knock" on Falco and Eli is the same, they are just as likely to go out and put up an absolute dog of a game as they are to go out and carve the opposing defense like a Thanksgiving turkey.  Luckily for them, their teammates, and their fans, they have brought some of those ridiculously good performances to the postseason.

If Flacco goes a whole season consistently performing well, then dominates in the postseason, then I will be the first on that bandwagon.  If he goes out next year and has several multiple INT games and the Ravens miss the playoffs or limp in and get bounced early, then I will put him firmly in that "Other" category with Eli.


Flacco has had some OK regular seasons and some downright terrible postseasons.  Even in postseason wins he's been so-so until this year.  So I agree, if he can show that he can play at the level he played this postseason for 16 games and then some playoff games, he'll be given his due.  For now he's just a good QB who had an extraordinary postseason.

Hell, even Eli wasn't accepted as a great QB until he won 2 Super Bowls while putting up some great regular season numbers along the way.  Of course, outside of that one interview last year where Eli reluctantly and awkwardly said he was a great QB, he had enough class to not shout it every chance he got that he was "elite".  Flacco's had a good 4-game run, but there needs to be some sort of consistency to be considered a great player.  And his constant search for validation proves to me that he's not a great QB.  If you're a great player you don't need to tell everyone that you are great, they just know it.
 
2013-02-04 03:13:10 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: And his constant search for validation proves to me that he's not a great QB. If you're a great player you don't need to tell everyone that you are great, they just know it.


He said itwas misquoted saying it once, and has never mentioned it again.
 
2013-02-04 03:33:34 PM  

roc6783: Luckily for them, their teammates, and their fans, they have brought some of those ridiculously good performances to the postseason.


Once may be luck, twice is good luck, thrice is GREAT luck...what's 4 times? What's 5?

Joe Flacco has a postseason win in each of his first 5 seasons. AFAIK, no other NFL QB can say that. Yes, some of those wins were in spite of his performance, but I ask again: After 5 seasons of "lucky" wins, isn't it starting to get more reasonable that Joe (in combination with John Harbaugh, Ray Rice and a hell of a defense) is a pretty good QB on a really good team?

Matt Ryan can't say it, despite having a great offensive team. Alex Smith can't say it because his offense half-sucked during his tenure. Rodgers can't say it because he didn't start until year...3? 4? And so on. Most times, a QB needs a year or two to ramp up, or there's a hole somewhere on the team. For Joe, he's been lucky with the latter (no glaring holes that keep them out of the playoffs combined with a timely loss or two by PIT/CIN), and it's increasingly looking like he's a pretty good QB.

// also, don't ignore a footnote mentioned last night:
// Jim Caldwell gets the plays in early, so Joe has time to look at the D
// Cam Cameron usually got his plays in just in time for the next one to start - you rarely see such piss-poor timing from an OC
 
2013-02-04 03:51:02 PM  

Dr Dreidel: roc6783: ***snip*** and it's increasingly looking like he's a pretty good QB.***snip***


You will not catch me saying Flacco is not a good QB from this point on.  As of this exact moment though, I will say he has been too inconsistent to really be considered one of the top QBs in the league.  When you look at Brees' numbers with the Saints compared to the Chargers, you see what could arguably be 2 different players.  Maybe the same type of thing will happen with Flacco due to the coordinator change.

//FWIW, I really think Flacco has been hurt by poor play calling and game planning.  When your go to play is hunk 40 yds downfield to a receiver with 3 guys draped on him, your success is going to be limited.  One day, I hope Mike McCarthy will learn that valuable lesson, fire his play caller, and replace him with someone who has the ability to adjust when things aren't working and won't completely slow the game down with a 10 point lead halfway through the 3rd.  Yes, i am aware McCarthy calls the plays, that was my point.
 
2013-02-04 04:08:30 PM  

roc6783: You will not catch me saying Flacco is not a good QB from this point on. As of this exact moment though, I will say he has been too inconsistent to really be considered one of the top QBs in the league. When you look at Brees' numbers with the Saints compared to the Chargers, you see what could arguably be 2 different players. Maybe the same type of thing will happen with Flacco due to the coordinator change.


Fair 'nuff.

// roc Y U ALWAES REESUNABEL?
 
2013-02-04 04:27:25 PM  
The answer to the question of whether or not Flacco is now "elite" can be answered simply by asking another question: Would you pick Flacco as your QB over Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, or Drew Brees...yeah, I thought you'd say "no" to that. Flacco is a good to VG QB with a solid supporting cast and a VG defense. He's a notch above game manager, but put him on Kansas City, Tennessee, or Arizona and see what results you get. ELITE QBs MAKE their team great, but they don't necessarily need a great team to succeed.
 
2013-02-04 04:31:25 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: AdmirableSnackbar: And his constant search for validation proves to me that he's not a great QB. If you're a great player you don't need to tell everyone that you are great, they just know it.

He said itwas misquoted saying it once, and has never mentioned it again.


Maybe he thinks these FB conversations are real.
 
2013-02-04 04:34:28 PM  

UDel_Kitty: Maybe he thinks these FB conversations are real.


That hadn't occurred to me, but it all makes sense now.
 
2013-02-04 04:42:53 PM  

BrianGriffin: Flacco is a good to VG QB with a solid supporting cast and a VG defense.


So he's Eli Manning?
 
2013-02-04 05:00:55 PM  

Treygreen13: So he's Eli Manning?


That's what I as thinking.
 
2013-02-04 05:55:33 PM  

BrianGriffin: Would you pick Flacco as your QB over Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, or Drew Brees.


Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No
 
2013-02-04 05:55:44 PM  

Treygreen13: BrianGriffin: Flacco is a good to VG QB with a solid supporting cast and a VG defense.

So he's Eli Manning?


Yes, though unlike Eli, I say there's a case to be made that Flacco deserved his Super Bowl MVP. Though I would have voted for Boldin. Of course, now it's fan voted "Super Bowl MVP" merely means "QB of winning SB team"
 
2013-02-04 05:59:04 PM  

LucklessWonder: Treygreen13: BrianGriffin: Flacco is a good to VG QB with a solid supporting cast and a VG defense.

So he's Eli Manning?

Yes, though unlike Eli, I say there's a case to be made that Flacco deserved his Super Bowl MVP. Though I would have voted for Boldin. Of course, now it's fan voted "Super Bowl MVP" merely means "QB of winning SB team"


Eli played well in the 2nd Super Bowl, and is arguably one of the ones he deserved. However, the MVP of that game for anyone who follows football was Weatherford. I know a punter doesn't even register as a blip on the fan radar but he was absolutely vital to that game going the way it did. I doubt the NFL fanbase ever gets to the point where everyone stands up and cheers for the punter but he deserved that.
 
2013-02-04 06:11:48 PM  

Dr Dreidel: roc6783: ***snip***

// roc Y U ALWAES REESUNABEL?


Uhhh...there are only a few explanations for this response.  Either:

A. You're new here.  Congrats.
B. You are the person that is currently stalking me and you're trying to get me off my game.  Nice try.
C. You are a window licker who can read, but not actually process what is written.  In that case, I invite you to try the Politics tab.

//I at least try to have some sort of logic behind the stupidity that I spout.
 
2013-02-04 06:54:15 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2013-02-04 07:00:03 PM  

WinoRhino: Still goes on wayyyy too long, still isn't very funny.


*sniffle

it is SO HARD being you isn't it
 
2013-02-04 07:42:02 PM  

bel4sucks: it is SO HARD being you isn't it


No, not particularly.
 
2013-02-04 08:30:20 PM  
Comparing Eli Manning to Joe Flacci is an insult. To Joe Flacco.

Good lord, Flacco's WORST seasons had him toss 12 interceptions (he is a standard 10-12 INTs a year). ELI MANNING HAS ONLY TOSSED FEWER INTERCEPTIONS DURING ONE FULL SEASON IN HIS CAREER. He has had MULTIPLE 20+ interception seasons. You can basically expect an interception a game with Eli on the average(not one in each game, but he always seems to have a horrendous game a year and a couple really bad games).

He DESTROYED the Niners defense. Not "scored 17 against a sub-par Pats defense," not "made a couple great throws in each game then was otherwise decent," he dominated one of the three best defenses in the league. Crisp, precise passing almost the entire game. His receivers actually cost him a couple catches, and he had a couple throwaways... basically, half of his incompletions were GOOD THROWS/DECISIONS. He only "missed" a couple times last night... and arguably his worst throw was the one to Jones where he was running forward and didn't get enough momentum behind it (Jacoby made up for it for the TD).

He deserves to be compared closer to Roethlisberger than Eli, at this point. That's a complement. He's not Aaron Rodgers-like in efficiency, but I'd take him any day of the freaking week over Eli Manning, and twice on Sundays.
 
2013-02-04 08:34:00 PM  
Oh, and for what it's worth, Eli Manning is climbing into Joe Namath "overrated" territory. He's not THAT bad, he's just a 7-10 QB who gets 1-3 hype.

Big Ben is, easily, unequivocally, without question the better QB, and was the best in that draft. Which is what I said on draft day in 2004. As rapey as he may be, and as much grief as I give the guy, he's definitely a great QB. Eli... is great at times. Just like Flacco. Flacco, however, had one of the best postseasons I've seen from a QB this year, though, on par with Montana/Warner/Rodgers.
 
2013-02-04 08:39:03 PM  

degenerate-afro: BrianGriffin: Would you pick Flacco as your QB over Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, or Drew Brees.

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No


Actually, I'd take Flacco over Brees just due to age.

Of course, with Flacco's arm running that kind of offense (I'm dreaming, but given where the Ravens were successful it may be closer than I think), I'd be far more afraid of the potential that he could have than I would be even of the best Drew Brees offense. Not saying Brees isn't a better intermediate thrower and wouldn't be better at operating that kind of offense, but I can't imagine that kind of arm slinging the ball down the field with 4 or 5 wide, especially given that Flacco is often the tallest guy on the field to boot.
 
2013-02-04 09:04:41 PM  
I LIKE THESE. IT'S EASY TO KNOW THE FUNNY PARTS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN ALL CAPS.
 
2013-02-04 10:27:37 PM  

aendeuryu: I LIKE THESE. IT'S EASY TO KNOW THE FUNNY PARTS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN ALL CAPS.


Thank you Captain Obvious, err I mean Mr. Roethlisberger.
 
2013-02-04 11:35:34 PM  

puffy999: degenerate-afro: BrianGriffin: Would you pick Flacco as your QB over Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, or Drew Brees.

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No

Actually, I'd take Flacco over Brees just due to age.

Of course, with Flacco's arm running that kind of offense (I'm dreaming, but given where the Ravens were successful it may be closer than I think), I'd be far more afraid of the potential that he could have than I would be even of the best Drew Brees offense. Not saying Brees isn't a better intermediate thrower and wouldn't be better at operating that kind of offense, but I can't imagine that kind of arm slinging the ball down the field with 4 or 5 wide, especially given that Flacco is often the tallest guy on the field to boot.


I might take Brees anyway.  If you figure that every team is at the beginning of a 5 year window after a great draft, and the goal is championships or nothing, I think Brees overall efficiency vs the newness of Flaccos soon to be huge contract gives Brees the edge.

I like this thought experiment though.  There's so many ways too look at that.  I think another interesting comparison is Aaron Rodgers vs Russell Wilson.  Rodgers is obviously the better QB, but Wilson's near term contract offers a massive cap-value advantage.  Over the next few years it's like 10 million in additional cap room per year.  In absolute terms though I would say Rodger's is easily first..
 
2013-02-04 11:51:54 PM  

LarryDan43: rufus-t-firefly: Joe Flacco is finally the equal of Trent Dilfer and  Brad Johnson.

ELITE.

His playoff and super bowl wins now equal Peyton Manning, but he is slightly younger.


And less tebowsjobstealy.
 
2013-02-05 02:43:26 PM  
Peyton Manning had a 300-yard SB, but it was the one he lost. He didn't throw for 300+ in the win. He still hasn't thrown 3 TD passes in his SB career.
Tom Brady threw for 300+ yards in 1 of 5 Super Bowls (win vs Carolina).
Eli Manning has never thrown for 300+ yards in a Super Bowl
Drew Brees has never thrown for 300+ yards in a Super Bowl (or 3 TD)

None of those three ever threw 3 TD passes in a SB with 0 INT.

/Rodgers did, though, so I guess his character can talk sh*t
 
2013-02-05 03:21:03 PM  
IAmRight: ***snip***

/Rodgers did, though, so I guess his character can talk sh*t

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-06 08:01:16 AM  
The writers of these try too hard. It's like reading a facebook version of Blue Mountain State, just not as funny.

They have their moments though.
 
2013-02-06 10:48:46 AM  

WinoRhino: bel4sucks: it is SO HARD being you isn't it

No, not particularly.


Oh it has to be.  I mean you got forced to read an article you knew you weren't going to like, and then got forced to comment your displeasure.  I/m sure being you sucks in more ways than one biatch.
 
2013-02-06 05:16:14 PM  

bel4sucks: Oh it has to be. I mean you got forced to read an article you knew you weren't going to like, and then got forced to comment your displeasure. I/m sure being you sucks in more ways than one biatch.


No, not particularly.
 
2013-02-07 12:42:01 PM  
LOL ok biatch.  Wonder if you'll even see this one.
 
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