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2013-02-04 07:35:48 AM
"product enhancement"

Seriously? Do all MBAs have brain damage or something? AIRLINES ARE A SERVICE! YOU DO NOT HAVE A PRODUCT! Also if you're not going to say the name of the company or the person, don't talk about it and or them respectively.
 
2013-02-04 07:50:54 AM
Children under the age of 12 who are travelling in economy will be banished to the back of the plane.

upload.wikimedia.org

I assume the ball pit would be fun during turbulence.
 
2013-02-04 07:55:28 AM

miss diminutive: Children under the age of 12 who are travelling in economy will be banished to the back of the plane.

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I assume the ball pit would be fun during turbulence.


Oh god. Why are there no adult sized ball pits? Now THAT would be a product.
 
2013-02-04 07:59:38 AM
For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"
 
2013-02-04 08:01:28 AM

Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"


Are you flying on Jackboot Airlines? That doesn't happen to me.
 
2013-02-04 08:10:39 AM

miss diminutive: Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"

Are you flying on Jackboot Airlines? That doesn't happen to me.


Holy f*ck it happens all the time to me.  Don't get me wrong - they're not yelling AT me.  They're yelling at someone in my row.  If I had to guess it happens more regularly on USAir flights.  Surly, surly flight attendants on that airline...
 
2013-02-04 08:19:34 AM

Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"


I heard that in a Dalek's voice.

CAN I GET YOU SOME TEA?
I AM YOUR SOLDIER!
 
2013-02-04 08:28:38 AM

xanadian: Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"

I heard that in a Dalek's voice.

CAN I GET YOU SOME TEA?
I AM YOUR SOLDIER!


A Dalek flight attendant would be great. I'm imagining the safety demonstration.

/And they'd be able to unblock the toilets.
 
2013-02-04 08:59:20 AM
My kid is an angel on the airplane. He shouldn't be punished to sit in the back. He should be able to sit up in the front with me.
 
2013-02-04 09:04:17 AM
At a glance, that fuselage looks drenched in blood. Or possibly like a used tampon.

/Samuel L Jackson is tired of these motherfarkin zombies in this motherfarkin plane
 
2013-02-04 09:04:31 AM
This does not add value, as the airline executive would have you believe. For the majority (those who don't know or choose not to pay $11-$50) it means that you are now MORE LIKELY to be sitting near a crying baby (same # of babies but fewer cheap seats).  It's like the VIP line at an amusement park, it adds value for those who are willing to pay more to cut the line, at the cost of making the rest of the line have to wait longer. Net result: worse experience for those not willing to pay more for the upgrade.
 
2013-02-04 09:06:10 AM
But as the parent of several annoying, vicious, and unruly crotch-fruit I demand the right to inflict my suffering on the rest of you trapped in this flying metal tube.

Why not go one step further and pressurize a cargo bay to make it into a child storage facility.  You check your kids when you arrive at the airport and pick them up at baggage claim when the flight is over, and you can watch them on your in seat entertainment console if you worry about them.
 
2013-02-04 09:11:49 AM

Jenna Tellya: This does not add value, as the airline executive would have you believe. For the majority (those who don't know or choose not to pay $11-$50) it means that you are now MORE LIKELY to be sitting near a crying baby (same # of babies but fewer cheap seats).  It's like the VIP line at an amusement park, it adds value for those who are willing to pay more to cut the line, at the cost of making the rest of the line have to wait longer. Net result: worse experience for those not willing to pay more for the upgrade.


Huh. It's almost as if increasing the utility or value of something is met with a corresponding increase in the price some are willing to pay.

\Economics
\\How does it work?
 
2013-02-04 09:14:01 AM
what? no hero tag?
 
2013-02-04 09:15:41 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: My kid is an angel on the airplane. He shouldn't be punished to sit in the back. He should be able to sit up in the front with me.


That's fair, but given the intent of the section you should be willing to put up a $100 deposit against your little snowflake going postal.
 
2013-02-04 09:17:27 AM
My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child
 
2013-02-04 09:19:47 AM
As welcoming as quiet would be, I'd also like stateside carriers to bring back another idea that asian airlines use:  hot stewardesses.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-04 09:25:38 AM

doglover: "product enhancement"

Seriously? Do all MBAs have brain damage or something? AIRLINES ARE A SERVICE! YOU DO NOT HAVE A PRODUCT! Also if you're not going to say the name of the company or the person, don't talk about it and or them respectively.


I bet their accounting department still uses the term "cost of goods sold" too. Mind = Blown.
 
2013-02-04 09:26:57 AM

Karac: As welcoming as quiet would be, I'd also like stateside carriers to bring back another idea that asian airlines use:  hot stewardesses.


It's a trap!
 
2013-02-04 09:27:58 AM
airasia is awesome and cheap. flew with them all over asia when I was backpacking there. Had a 35L backpack so I could carry it on, no check fee (which wasn't bad anyways).

with either Bangkok or KL as a hub, you can get anywhere. and the air waitresses are usually hot.
 
2013-02-04 09:29:15 AM

bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child


Totally. I live 3000 miles from my parents and infirm grandparents, and I should only be allowed to drive when I want to bring my infant son to visit them, rather than risk a few rogue whines from him on a loud aircraft.

We have flown about 20 times with my 15 month old, usually first class (thanks, upgrades), and he is mostly a champ. Save for one 20 minute crying jog on a flight to chicago. It is exhausting and stressful to fly with a baby, and I am so lucky that our neighbors tend to be more compassionate than combative. Probably doesnt hurt that we always buy chocolate and earplugs for everyone seated within two rows of us.
 
2013-02-04 09:29:39 AM

miss diminutive: Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"

Are you flying on Jackboot Airlines? That doesn't happen to me.


me neither, if your eyes are closed they generally let you be
 
2013-02-04 09:31:12 AM
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2013-02-04 09:35:34 AM

bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child


Also a frequent traveler.  With the occasional notable exception, I rarely get the "screaming child."  Also, I have never seen the elusive unapologetic parent.   Perhaps it's the places I fly, perhaps it's when I fly (first thing in the morning or red-eyes), I dunno.  But annoying kids are among the least of my travel annoyances.

In my experience as a parent, people don't fly with their kids unless they really do have to.  Cross-country or transoceanic trips, emergencies, etc.
 
2013-02-04 09:37:47 AM

GladGirl: bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child

Totally. I live 3000 miles from my parents and infirm grandparents, and I should only be allowed to drive when I want to bring my infant son to visit them, rather than risk a few rogue whines from him on a loud aircraft.

We have flown about 20 times with my 15 month old, usually first class (thanks, upgrades), and he is mostly a champ. Save for one 20 minute crying jog on a flight to chicago. It is exhausting and stressful to fly with a baby, and I am so lucky that our neighbors tend to be more compassionate than combative. Probably doesnt hurt that we always buy chocolate and earplugs for everyone seated within two rows of us.


I'm sorry that you're so self-entitled, but at least you're gracious and acknowledge that your child is annoying by bribing your neighbors.
 
2013-02-04 09:40:36 AM
oh thank jeebus.  i thought this was going to be "air asia ceo reads fark and listens to the whining entitled snowflakes who insist that their checked in luggage must be subsidized by those of us who don't have any."
 
2013-02-04 09:40:40 AM

Babwa Wawa: Also a frequent traveler. With the occasional notable exception, I rarely get the "screaming child." Also, I have never seen the elusive unapologetic parent. Perhaps it's the places I fly, perhaps it's when I fly (first thing in the morning or red-eyes), I dunno. But annoying kids are among the least of my travel annoyances.

In my experience as a parent, people don't fly with their kids unless they really do have to. Cross-country or transoceanic trips, emergencies, etc.


I'm on the west coast and fly frequently between connection hubs because of the nature of my job.  The unapologetic types tend to be the foreign travelers with kids(East Asians), simply because they get pissed off because they can't communicate with the people giving them the stinkeye.  I haven't seen too much difference between time of day(I tend to fly first flight in or last flight out or both).
 
2013-02-04 09:43:58 AM
Babwa Wawa: For every time I've been woken by a screaming kid, I've been woken ten by a f*cking flight attendant screaming "CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO DRINK!"

i used to fly to the states from london twice a week.  even if your overdramatized story of the "screaming" "f'ing" flight attendant were remotely true, all it would take is a safety pin and a little note that say "No Drink, No Meal, thank you, if asleep - please do not wake."  Never failed once for me.

I run a company, and know that for every outraged snowflake like you who is just shocked and outraged by the "screaming" "f'ing" flight attendand who bothered to ask you a drink, there'd be one just as shocked and outraged writing the president of the company demanding his measure of cranapple via return post PLUS INTEREST if the flight attendant passed him by simply because he was a asleep.
 
2013-02-04 09:44:58 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Karac: As welcoming as quiet would be, I'd also like stateside carriers to bring back another idea that asian airlines use:  hot stewardesses.

It's a trap!


Even if she is a trap, as long as she's not heavier than me and doesn't smell like my grandma, It's an improvement and I'll take it.
 
2013-02-04 09:45:06 AM

bhcompy: GladGirl: bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child

Totally. I live 3000 miles from my parents and infirm grandparents, and I should only be allowed to drive when I want to bring my infant son to visit them, rather than risk a few rogue whines from him on a loud aircraft.

We have flown about 20 times with my 15 month old, usually first class (thanks, upgrades), and he is mostly a champ. Save for one 20 minute crying jog on a flight to chicago. It is exhausting and stressful to fly with a baby, and I am so lucky that our neighbors tend to be more compassionate than combative. Probably doesnt hurt that we always buy chocolate and earplugs for everyone seated within two rows of us.

I'm sorry that you're so self-entitled, but at least you're gracious and acknowledge that your child is annoying by bribing your neighbors.


Self entitled? Yes, i am entitled to visit my family. We all are. You really think that families should be kept apart for years so that strangers don't get exposed to someone else's children for a five hour flight? I am pretty sure you're trolling, but I'm responding anyway.
/really hope we sit next to you on a flight sometime
 
2013-02-04 09:45:32 AM
Sexy stewardess thread?
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-04 09:50:40 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: My kid is an angel on the airplane. He shouldn't be punished to sit in the back. He should be able to sit up in the front with me.


On the off chance you aren't delusional about your screamy brat(and you are by the way, this is just a thought experiment) don't you think he would have more fun screaming together with other screamy brats in a little screamy choir anyway?
 
2013-02-04 09:51:21 AM

doglover: Do all MBAs have brain damage or something?


Or something.
It's the ability to BS while wearing a suit and have sheep believe you are saying something of merit.

Now pay me.
 
2013-02-04 10:00:33 AM
If you want the horrible toddler & infant flight, with unapologetic parents, fly Alaska Air flight 18 & 19 between Seattle and Orlando. I do that 6 hour flight a couple times a year (my brother lives in Florida). I guarantee that you'll have one of two things: 1. A screaming infant within 2 rows (or even several infants, who's synchronized screams wake one another every few minutes). 2. The toddler of just the right height to kick and push against the back of your Exit-row window seat, from takeoff to landing (while occasionally banging on the lowered food tray, to get their unconcerned parents attention for more cheerios to snack on).Trust me on this one; hell does exist on Earth.
 
2013-02-04 10:02:59 AM
it's been done before-

graeme.50webs.com
 
2013-02-04 10:04:55 AM
Had way too many flights with screaming brats.  They are the scourge of the skies and should be flushed down the toilet.

Babies, I can understand their reactions.  Air pressure changes, ear pain, loud noises, weird movements, strange people - so don't put them on a plane until they're at least five years old, you stupid parents.  It's what web cams are for.  If relatives want to see the kids, go to the kid, not the other way around.

Now I'm going to play the stereotype card here, and it will sound racist - too bad.  I don't give a damn, because I'm not a racist which gives me the right to dislike bad behaviour that idiots try to excuse through tradition and culture, which is complete bollocks.  I have been on some horrendous long-haul flights where the biggest brat has usually been the first-born son of a couple from the Indian sub-continent.  These boys tend to be treated like royalty, get everything they want the instant they ask for it, never disciplined by the father and barely so by the mother, and generally run amok during a flight and scream unless they get their own way.  Worst one ever was a 12 hour flight from London to LAX, on my way to my mother's funeral (so already pretty fragile).  Low and behold, five-year-old precious little Indian prince sat behind me, between his parents, and screamed constantly for the entire farking flight, terrorising the entire rear half of the aircraft.  The father got into an argument with the pilot because he wouldn't strap his brat into the seat during turbulence, endangering the other passengers and nearly diverting the flight.  I hit breaking point when he started kicking my seat back as hard as he could - I got up and yelled at all three of them to behave before I shoved their brat into the hold, which resulted in a round of applause from the other passengers.  "What do you want me to do, strap his legs down?", the father said.  "No need, because if you let him kick my seat again, I'll do it for you as well as his arms and gag him."  At the end of the flight, they then tried to muscle their way past us off the plane before anyone else to boot - which failed when the entire passenger list made sure it didn't happen.

This scenario has happened to me in different formats on dozens of occasions on flights.  I'm sick of it.  I've tripped screaming brats running up and down aisles, which usually works.  I've had a few wonderful flights that had great kids who were better than the adults - but those are few and far between.

I have a much better idea - transport kids in those cannisters that they shoot via vacuum pressure, like at drive-thru banks.  Brat in tube, insert into clear vacuum tube, SCHLOOORP! and they're there.

I hate brats.  Children should be herded and not seen.
 
2013-02-04 10:08:03 AM
Two things, one Rosa Parks and Great Grandchildren are not going to be amused by having to move to the 'BACK OF THE PLANE" and two

The quiet zone, does that mean that any and all sitting there if/when a plane is going down have to be quiet and relaxed?

/sorry for the screaming BOTP, but I am in row 15 it seems
 
2013-02-04 10:08:04 AM
Defense of parents flying with young children aside, I think this separate seating is a great idea. For one thing, it can help assuage the anxiety of nervous parents like myself, who fear their seatmates' scorn for bringing a child aboard. It's nice to be surrounded by fellow families, who are enduring the same situation - and could lend you a babywipe if you need one. Also, it's a great use for the back of the plane, where it makes sense for families to sit, cause it's closer to the bathroom, and cause families, with all their gear and slow-moving children, take forever to disembark the aircraft. We always let others disembark first if we're sitting up front; I think it's just a good neighborly policy. Also, the backs of planes are both louder and bumpier, conditions that can actually help small infants sleep better.
 
2013-02-04 10:21:53 AM
There are the entitled fark-you parents and then there are the ones with genuine problems who do their best to reduce the impact on others but rely on polite society to meet them partway. I don't think that's a lot to ask.

/One of the toughest girls I know
 
2013-02-04 10:24:12 AM

GladGirl: bhcompy: GladGirl: bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child

Totally. I live 3000 miles from my parents and infirm grandparents, and I should only be allowed to drive when I want to bring my infant son to visit them, rather than risk a few rogue whines from him on a loud aircraft.

We have flown about 20 times with my 15 month old, usually first class (thanks, upgrades), and he is mostly a champ. Save for one 20 minute crying jog on a flight to chicago. It is exhausting and stressful to fly with a baby, and I am so lucky that our neighbors tend to be more compassionate than combative. Probably doesnt hurt that we always buy chocolate and earplugs for everyone seated within two rows of us.

I'm sorry that you're so self-entitled, but at least you're gracious and acknowledge that your child is annoying by bribing your neighbors.

Self entitled? Yes, i am entitled to visit my family. We all are. You really think that families should be kept apart for years so that strangers don't get exposed to someone else's children for a five hour flight? I am pretty sure you're trolling, but I'm responding anyway.
/really hope we sit next to you on a flight sometime


None of us dragged you 3000 miles away and forced you to live there. You want it both ways, to be able to live wherever on the globe you want and still have family within weekend trip visiting distance and everyone else can just deal with it.

Yep, its entitlement.
 
2013-02-04 10:30:53 AM
Hey, I wasn't finished yet.

A five-dollar "Child with autism, handle with care" t-shirt is worth its volume in neutron stars, and the time she took to prepare them for the rest of us saved a few man-centuries of damage control after a tantrum that never happened. But sometimes kids just have to act like kids, even when they don't have disabilities, and sometimes the rest of us just need to man up and deal with it.

I don't have kids, I never will, and personally I can't stand the screaming and puking and whining all in that same tone at the loudest possible volume that just makes you want to punch a hole in the fabric of reality so you can be sure that when you gouge out your inner ears with your fingernails and throw them away you will never ever ever see them again. But my inability to handle a loud noise is my problem so I man the fark up and deal with it.
 
2013-02-04 10:34:05 AM

brimed03: At a glance, that fuselage looks drenched in blood. Or possibly like a used tampon.

/Samuel L Jackson is tired of these motherfarkin zombies in this motherfarkin plane


Perhaps it's just camouflage to get them through Reaver space.

/they aim to misbehave
 
2013-02-04 10:38:43 AM
It's not the screaming infants and toddlers that bother me so much; I can't sleep on a plane anyhow and I just put in my earphones and raise the volume.

The pre-teen behind me who continuously kicks my seat back and the parents that can't control him? They belong not in the back of the plane, but on the wing. Without supplemental oxygen.
 
2013-02-04 10:39:47 AM
Worst experience I've ever had on a plane was when I was seated around a group of 20-something douchebags on spring break. So I'm not sure what a section restricted to 12 and over will solve. At least babies and young kids don't know any better.
 
2013-02-04 10:42:01 AM

bhcompy: I'm sorry that you're so self-entitled, but at least you're gracious and acknowledge that your child is annoying by bribing your neighbors


She didn't expect free or special service and followed the airlines rules.

If you don't like having to hear a kid, get your own airline.

If the parent isn't ignoring their kids cries the only self entitled asshole in the situation is you.
 
2013-02-04 10:43:51 AM
Jeffery will you sit down! Jefffery will you be quiet! My name is Feffery and I'm four years old.
 
2013-02-04 11:14:52 AM

AndreMA: It's not the screaming infants and toddlers that bother me so much; I can't sleep on a plane anyhow and I just put in my earphones and raise the volume.

Y

ep, me too.

/alcohol helps also
 
2013-02-04 11:22:52 AM

blatz514: AndreMA: It's not the screaming infants and toddlers that bother me so much; I can't sleep on a plane anyhow and I just put in my earphones and raise the volume.

Yep, me too.

/alcohol helps also


Especially if you pass some to the screamy pre-teen kicking your seat.
 
2013-02-04 11:31:08 AM
As someone who travels frequently:

Why stop at kids under 12? Under 18 would be better, and throw in the jerks who blabber loudly about work all night on redeye flights.
 
2013-02-04 11:48:05 AM

Ned Stark: GladGirl: bhcompy: GladGirl: bhcompy: My child never flew until he was old enough to sit still, be quiet, and keep to himself for the duration of the flight.  We drove our asses everywhere until then, because no one else should be punished for that shiat.  This should be the law.

/frequent business traveler
//never fails I get seated within a row or two of the screaming child

Totally. I live 3000 miles from my parents and infirm grandparents, and I should only be allowed to drive when I want to bring my infant son to visit them, rather than risk a few rogue whines from him on a loud aircraft.

We have flown about 20 times with my 15 month old, usually first class (thanks, upgrades), and he is mostly a champ. Save for one 20 minute crying jog on a flight to chicago. It is exhausting and stressful to fly with a baby, and I am so lucky that our neighbors tend to be more compassionate than combative. Probably doesnt hurt that we always buy chocolate and earplugs for everyone seated within two rows of us.

I'm sorry that you're so self-entitled, but at least you're gracious and acknowledge that your child is annoying by bribing your neighbors.

Self entitled? Yes, i am entitled to visit my family. We all are. You really think that families should be kept apart for years so that strangers don't get exposed to someone else's children for a five hour flight? I am pretty sure you're trolling, but I'm responding anyway.
/really hope we sit next to you on a flight sometime

None of us dragged you 3000 miles away and forced you to live there. You want it both ways, to be able to live wherever on the globe you want and still have family within weekend trip visiting distance and everyone else can just deal with it.

Yep, its entitlement.


Of course I want it both ways. We all do. That's why flight exists. We are all equally entitled to access air travel. I'm not sure what you're arguing. We're all entitled to the same things. Access to the benefits of modern society, and an expectation that when we are all forced into the same physical space, we will endeavor to treat each other with as much courtesy, respect and patience as possible, with the understanding that not everything is under our control at all times. It's a basic social contract, and the assumption of risk that we all take when we decide to step out of our homes.
 
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