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2013-02-04 10:48:57 AM
So, a remake of Gladiator?  I'm okay with this.
 
2013-02-04 10:49:08 AM
The cartoon was pretty decent. I think it's a good direction to take Hulk away from Earth for his own flick. There's only so many army tanks he can smash before it gets old.
 
2013-02-04 10:52:05 AM
The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.
 
2013-02-04 10:55:14 AM
Which is about the only way you'll get a version of John Carter of Mars done right on the silver screen, I guess?

Maybe there was a bit more differentiation in the actual comic but the cartoon-movie version on Netflix doesn't have it.

(to be fair, I'll watch anything with the Hulk in it where there's copious amounts of smashing)
 
2013-02-04 10:57:41 AM

mark.jms: Which is about the only way you'll get a version of John Carter of Mars done right on the silver screen, I guess?


There was a problem with the actual movie?  I thought it captured enough of the elements and told a good story.  And they are green for doing a sequel, despite some of the lackluster box office sales.
 
2013-02-04 10:58:51 AM
He basicly has an internal conversation with the Hulk where he strikes up a deal. He lends a certain degree of intellect to the Hulk, and doesnt fight his presence in return for the Hulk acting like a hero, doing the "right" thing, and letting him out to be Bruce like twice a month. Thats my understanding anyways....
 
2013-02-04 11:03:45 AM

blue_2501: mark.jms: Which is about the only way you'll get a version of John Carter of Mars done right on the silver screen, I guess?

There was a problem with the actual movie?  I thought it captured enough of the elements and told a good story.  And they are green for doing a sequel, despite some of the lackluster box office sales.


I actually liked "John Carter". It had some of the actors that were on "Rome" (HBO), so I was suitably entertained...
 
2013-02-04 11:05:49 AM
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2013-02-04 11:06:55 AM

blue_2501: There was a problem with the actual movie?


I thought everything in the movie was fine (especially all the Rome cameos... like James Purefoy and Ciaran Hinds essentially reprising their Antony and Caesar roles, respectively)..... but the one glaring, distracting flaw was Carter's powers.

They were inconsistent. Sometimes he can jump so high, and other times he can leap across entire cities. He's strong enough to waste hordes of enemy combatants Tower Defense-style, yet he keeps getting captured and thrown in prison. If he's that powerful, why does he do anything for anyone? What predicament is too much for him? Simply tell everyone to fark off and bound away. But no, the movie couldn't decide if he was Golden Age Superman, Silver Age Superman, Platinum Age Superman, or just the Hulk.
 
2013-02-04 11:11:23 AM
YES PLEASE
 
2013-02-04 11:12:00 AM
Planet Hulk tie in with Guardians of the Galaxy?
 
2013-02-04 11:20:14 AM
This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.
 
2013-02-04 11:20:35 AM
I love this idea.  Mostly because it leads to WW Hulk.  So you have Hulk taking down the Avengers.  If Marvel goes that far- where they take the risk of pitting hero against hero in a movie - they have the biggest balls on the planet.
 
2013-02-04 11:24:14 AM
And as someone mentioned elsewhere, there's a minor problem with this. The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.
 
2013-02-04 11:30:04 AM

texdent: The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.


They could just go with the shadowy figures from the Avengers movie. Dr. Strange is reportedly coming. Ant-Man/Pym could proxy for Reed Richards, Black Panther (not confirmed in the movie universe but an easy sell) could do the proud warrior role. Nick Fury would probably be an easy sell as a mover and shaker.

But I'd bet on the shadowy figures.
 
2013-02-04 11:33:48 AM

texdent: And as someone mentioned elsewhere, there's a minor problem with this. The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.


There have been rumors there will be a Dr. Strange movie in the Phase 2.

"Writers were to pen a script in June 2011. Very little movement has been heard since, but Marvel Studios' President of Production Kevin Feige said [in 2011] that he hopes to see Dr. Strange in 'Phase 2' of Marvel's movies, and hopes the movie comes around 'sooner rather than later.'"

If the Dr. Strange movie happens during Phase 2, I'm sure the rest of the Illuminati will appear - probably minus Xavier. If not, I'd expect the Dr. Strange and the rest of the Illuminati to appear in the Avengers 2 stinger, setting up Planet Hulk and a Dr. Strange movie in Phase 3. I'd guess Dr. Strange would come out first to help set up parts of Planet Hulk and other possible supernatural elements of Phase 3 as Iron Man 2 did to the Avengers.
 
2013-02-04 11:38:23 AM

texdent: And as someone mentioned elsewhere, there's a minor problem with this. The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.


Well they don't have to go the EXACT route taken in the comics. Like everything else they have done, they can tweak it to fit the Marvel Movie Universe. Maybe have it as The Avengers ganging up on Banner and shooting him into space because he is too dangerous, or he was captured by enemies and shot into space. Doesn't matter. I trust the gang at Marvel to make it plausible as to why/how he got there.
 
2013-02-04 11:53:59 AM

Ishkur: blue_2501: There was a problem with the actual movie?

I thought everything in the movie was fine (especially all the Rome cameos... like James Purefoy and Ciaran Hinds essentially reprising their Antony and Caesar roles, respectively)..... but the one glaring, distracting flaw was Carter's powers.

They were inconsistent. Sometimes he can jump so high, and other times he can leap across entire cities. He's strong enough to waste hordes of enemy combatants Tower Defense-style, yet he keeps getting captured and thrown in prison. If he's that powerful, why does he do anything for anyone? What predicament is too much for him? Simply tell everyone to fark off and bound away. But no, the movie couldn't decide if he was Golden Age Superman, Silver Age Superman, Platinum Age Superman, or just the Hulk.


That's what bugged me the most too.  Kills hundreds of monsters with a sword, gets knocked out with one punch.
 
2013-02-04 11:59:46 AM

Ishkur: They were inconsistent. Sometimes he can jump so high, and other times he can leap across entire cities. He's strong enough to waste hordes of enemy combatants Tower Defense-style, yet he keeps getting captured and thrown in prison. If he's that powerful, why does he do anything for anyone? What predicament is too much for him? Simply tell everyone to fark off and bound away. But no, the movie couldn't decide if he was Golden Age Superman, Silver Age Superman, Platinum Age Superman, or just the Hulk.


I don't remember him "leaping across entire cities".  At best, he was leaping from the ground to the airships, which was quite a jump, but certainly less than what Hulk was able to do in Earth's gravity.  John was strong, but not super strong.  Most of his abilities focused on being agile, smart, and skilled in battle.  Yeah, the middle of the movie where he was fighting hordes of enemies was a bit much, but he's still using his speed, fury, and skills (and luck) to dispatch them all.  Plus, it was a great scene.

Also, keep in mind that we're talking about a Mars with a breathable atmosphere, teeming with life, etc.  That alone is already far-fetched...
 
2013-02-04 12:04:52 PM

whosits_112: Well they don't have to go the EXACT route taken in the comics. Like everything else they have done, they can tweak it to fit the Marvel Movie Universe. Maybe have it as The Avengers ganging up on Banner and shooting him into space because he is too dangerous, or he was captured by enemies and shot into space. Doesn't matter. I trust the gang at Marvel to make it plausible as to why/how he got there.


They can't have him sent there by bad guys.  The entire point of the Planet Hulk storyline is to set up World War Hulk, where Hulk comes back to destroy the entire goddamned Earth and you're kind of rooting for him on the way.  That only plays out if the "good guys" do a bad thing and send him into exile.
 
2013-02-04 12:07:41 PM

blue_2501: I don't remember him "leaping across entire cities"


He leapt across the city with whatsisface on his back to crash the chick's wedding. Almost didn't make it, so he DOES have limitations, but they were always determined by the plot.

blue_2501: Also, keep in mind that we're talking about a Mars with a breathable atmosphere, teeming with life, etc. That alone is already far-fetched...


I have no problem with a fantasy reality with different laws of physics, but those laws still have to be consistent.
 
2013-02-04 12:11:32 PM
Planet Hulk was one of the best Hulk stories of all time, OF ALL TIME. World War Hulk sucked b/c of the Sentry, plain and simple. I have faith in Kevin Feige. This would farking ROCK.

Tweaks: If Guardians of the Galaxy comes out first (and doesn't bomb), then one of the Guardians (Draxx?) should fill in for Silver Surfer/Beta Ray Bill. Also, I don't know if the Brood are tied up w/ the Fox X-Men rights or not. Might need a different line up of alien gladiators.
 
2013-02-04 12:13:54 PM

Thorak: whosits_112: Well they don't have to go the EXACT route taken in the comics. Like everything else they have done, they can tweak it to fit the Marvel Movie Universe. Maybe have it as The Avengers ganging up on Banner and shooting him into space because he is too dangerous, or he was captured by enemies and shot into space. Doesn't matter. I trust the gang at Marvel to make it plausible as to why/how he got there.

They can't have him sent there by bad guys.  The entire point of the Planet Hulk storyline is to set up World War Hulk, where Hulk comes back to destroy the entire goddamned Earth and you're kind of rooting for him on the way.  That only plays out if the "good guys" do a bad thing and send him into exile.


Oops, yes, good point. Unless it is actually bad guys, but Hulk gets tricked into thinking it is his friends doing it to him. I can see that working too. A frame job done on the Avengers. Thoughts?
 
2013-02-04 12:49:28 PM

Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.


Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.
 
2013-02-04 12:54:23 PM
Came here to ask if the cartoon on Netflix is worth checking out and since it's already been mentioned a bunch I think I will. Just watched Batman: year one on there just wish they had dark knight returns
 
2013-02-04 01:23:52 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Came here to ask if the cartoon on Netflix is worth checking out and since it's already been mentioned a bunch I think I will. Just watched Batman: year one on there just wish they had dark knight returns


Yes, I can confidently say that every Marvel animated feature is worth it, especially the Avengers animated series. Even the DC animations on Netflix are amazing. You can check out The Dark Knight Returns on Amazon...the 2 parts are $4 or $5 for each rental...treat yourself, it's worth it.
 
2013-02-04 01:24:22 PM

CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.


You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?
 
2013-02-04 01:32:25 PM

Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?


You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.
 
2013-02-04 01:39:43 PM

whosits_112: Oops, yes, good point. Unless it is actually bad guys, but Hulk gets tricked into thinking it is his friends doing it to him. I can see that working too. A frame job done on the Avengers. Thoughts?


The issue with that is that the core thematic point of World War Hulk was that you could see where the defenders of Earth were coming from, defending their homeland, but you ALSO see where Hulk and friends are coming from, avenging the death of THEIR homeworld and, in Hulk's case, his wife and unborn child.  There are no "good guys".

If it's a frame job on the Avengers, then there ARE "good guys" and "bad guys".  That cheapens the story, IMO; the whole arc is about doing the wrong thing for what seem to be the right reasons.


It's also important that the only reason Hulk was stopped was NOT because of the superheroes defending Earth; he was crushing his way through them pretty handily.  He was stopped by his own self-loathing.  Banner hates the Hulk.  They occasionally come to a working arrangement, but they're never buddies.  Half the reason Hulk is so completely beyond himself in rage is because oft he death of his wife, HIS wife, not Banner's.  A woman who loved Hulk, unconditionally, in full understanding of who and what he was.  Her death is both what set him off, and ultimately, what defeated him.

None of that story works unless it's the Avengers et al who send him off.  He has to be legitimately betrayed by his allies, and they have to screw up and make that choice, otherwise the entire story arc boils down into "watch Hulk smash some aliens", rather than a look into the Banner/Hulk relationship.
 
2013-02-04 01:42:46 PM

daysofinspiration: Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?

You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.


Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:
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2013-02-04 01:49:22 PM

Thorak: whosits_112: Oops, yes, good point. Unless it is actually bad guys, but Hulk gets tricked into thinking it is his friends doing it to him. I can see that working too. A frame job done on the Avengers. Thoughts?

The issue with that is that the core thematic point of World War Hulk was that you could see where the defenders of Earth were coming from, defending their homeland, but you ALSO see where Hulk and friends are coming from, avenging the death of THEIR homeworld and, in Hulk's case, his wife and unborn child.  There are no "good guys".

If it's a frame job on the Avengers, then there ARE "good guys" and "bad guys".  That cheapens the story, IMO; the whole arc is about doing the wrong thing for what seem to be the right reasons.


It's also important that the only reason Hulk was stopped was NOT because of the superheroes defending Earth; he was crushing his way through them pretty handily.  He was stopped by his own self-loathing.  Banner hates the Hulk.  They occasionally come to a working arrangement, but they're never buddies.  Half the reason Hulk is so completely beyond himself in rage is because oft he death of his wife, HIS wife, not Banner's.  A woman who loved Hulk, unconditionally, in full understanding of who and what he was.  Her death is both what set him off, and ultimately, what defeated him.

None of that story works unless it's the Avengers et al who send him off.  He has to be legitimately betrayed by his allies, and they have to screw up and make that choice, otherwise the entire story arc boils down into "watch Hulk smash some aliens", rather than a look into the Banner/Hulk relationship.


I didn't think of it that way, but now that you mentioned it, you are right. I retract my previous statement and defer to you.
 
2013-02-04 02:17:34 PM

NeoCortex42: daysofinspiration: Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?

You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.

Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:
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sadly enough, the Hoff actually looks enough like Nick Fury
 
2013-02-04 03:10:57 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.

Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.


And after Planet & WWH, there's also The Worldbreaker, which is nothing but rage.
 
2013-02-04 03:12:17 PM

RevMercutio: FirstNationalBastard: Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.

Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.

And after Planet & WWH, there's also The Worldbreaker, which is nothing but rage.


He's different from Savage Hulk?
 
2013-02-04 03:13:46 PM

Thorak: whosits_112: Oops, yes, good point. Unless it is actually bad guys, but Hulk gets tricked into thinking it is his friends doing it to him. I can see that working too. A frame job done on the Avengers. Thoughts?

The issue with that is that the core thematic point of World War Hulk was that you could see where the defenders of Earth were coming from, defending their homeland, but you ALSO see where Hulk and friends are coming from, avenging the death of THEIR homeworld and, in Hulk's case, his wife and unborn child.  There are no "good guys".

If it's a frame job on the Avengers, then there ARE "good guys" and "bad guys".  That cheapens the story, IMO; the whole arc is about doing the wrong thing for what seem to be the right reasons.


It's also important that the only reason Hulk was stopped was NOT because of the superheroes defending Earth; he was crushing his way through them pretty handily.  He was stopped by his own self-loathing.  Banner hates the Hulk.  They occasionally come to a working arrangement, but they're never buddies.  Half the reason Hulk is so completely beyond himself in rage is because oft he death of his wife, HIS wife, not Banner's.  A woman who loved Hulk, unconditionally, in full understanding of who and what he was.  Her death is both what set him off, and ultimately, what defeated him.

None of that story works unless it's the Avengers et al who send him off.  He has to be legitimately betrayed by his allies, and they have to screw up and make that choice, otherwise the entire story arc boils down into "watch Hulk smash some aliens", rather than a look into the Banner/Hulk relationship.


Exactly. If they pull this off, bravo. It's going to be a really hard sell though. Movie producers are spineless pussies that are known to shiat all over good things. Lets hope the Disney overlords step out of the way to let thus be done the right way.
 
2013-02-04 03:28:12 PM

FirstNationalBastard: RevMercutio: FirstNationalBastard: Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.

Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.

And after Planet & WWH, there's also The Worldbreaker, which is nothing but rage.

He's different from Savage Hulk?


Yes, much stronger. While Savage Hulk is propelled by anger, Worldbreaker Hulk is propelled by rage and grief.
 
2013-02-04 03:28:36 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.

Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.


The surly, intelligent Hulk of Planet Hulk seemed a lot different from the one Samson integrated in The Incredible Hulk 377. That one (for David's run) was sarcastic, glib... I couldn't tell if that personality evolved with Betty's death or if a new intelligent Hulk had emerged. Either one of them could lead to The Maestro, I guess.

There's a huge gap in my Hulk history between Betty's death and Planet Hulk, FYI. I still don't really follow anything; it's way too daunting to get back into comics now.
 
2013-02-04 03:29:01 PM

NeoCortex42: Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:


That's because Marvel has ZERO limits on its licensing.  They would give it out to anybody for a quick buck regardless of how bad the final product would be.  Thee bankruptcy and takeover by Avi Arad was a godsend.
 
2013-02-04 03:29:46 PM
The big problem with this is that throughout all of the Marvel Studio films they've worked on the basis that the Hulk is basically just Banner having a strop and, once Banner accepts his rage, he and Hulk integrate. In the comics Hulk is more regularly shown as a distinct personality, and that personality knows about Banner and despises him.


Still, if they're doing Planet Hulk, I'm really hoping they include Beta Ray Bill just for the WTF? factor.


"That's when we learned, he wasn't alone."
 
2013-02-04 03:46:48 PM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: The big problem with this is that throughout all of the Marvel Studio films they've worked on the basis that the Hulk is basically just Banner having a strop and, once Banner accepts his rage, he and Hulk integrate. In the comics Hulk is more regularly shown as a distinct personality, and that personality knows about Banner and despises him.


Still, if they're doing Planet Hulk, I'm really hoping they include Beta Ray Bill just for the WTF? factor.


"That's when we learned, he wasn't alone."


They'd have to since the comics had him against the Surfer but Fox owns him.
 
2013-02-04 03:53:08 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: The cartoon was pretty decent. I think it's a good direction to take Hulk away from Earth for his own flick. There's only so many army tanks he can smash before it gets old.


My only issue with making  Planet Hulk a live action film is because of the animated one (which I guess I liked marginally more than you, oh well). I sort of want them to make World War Hulk as a live action movie but without the set up of  Planet Hulk people might be lost.

Maybe Avengers 3 could be World War Hulk?
 
2013-02-04 04:03:42 PM

texdent: And as someone mentioned elsewhere, there's a minor problem with this. The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.


Inhumans is possibly not owned by Marvel Studios, but i cant say for sure, since i know they own the rights to Quicksilver (and Scarlet Witch(they just cant mention mutants or Magneto...)) ditto Namor, i believe hes tied to the F4 license, and as you said Prof X. Theyre doing a Dr. Strange Movie for Phase 3.  I would say an Inhumans movie would be a little out there... but theyre doing a farking Guardians of the Galaxy movie, so i dont know what to think anymore.

FirstNationalBastard: Erix: The cartoon was pretty fun, but I didn't get how the Hulk suddenly became controlled and (reasonably) intelligent.  Haven't read the comics, so I'm probably missing something.

Well, see, Hulk suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.

Your basic personalities are Bruce Banner, dumb green Hulk, Grey "Joe Fixit" Hulk, integrated Hulk where he's Hulk with Banner's intellect, and mindless Savage Hulk.

Also floating around in there are personalities like snake devil Hulk, and Clown Hulk (no, seriously).

So, an intelligent Hulk is usually integrated Hulk.


Which is what we saw towards the end of Avengers to some extent when he wasnt being whammied by Loki.


You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: The big problem with this is that throughout all of the Marvel Studio films they've worked on the basis that the Hulk is basically just Banner having a strop and, once Banner accepts his rage, he and Hulk integrate. In the comics Hulk is more regularly shown as a distinct personality, and that personality knows about Banner and despises him.


Still, if they're doing Planet Hulk, I'm really hoping they include Beta Ray Bill just for the WTF? factor.


"That's when we learned, he wasn't alone."


Thor 3 = Beta Ray Bill im hoping.


CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.


These movies are the best thing to happen to comic books in decades. I never read comic books until a few years ago, but now i make a point of reading the arcs the various films are based on. Heck, even my Fiancee has been reading some (mostly Thor...) but she has watched most of the recent animated and motion comic features with me too.

I loved an appreciated all the animated series i grew up with in the 90s (Timmverse and Marvel Animated Universe), but like i said i never read an actual comic book until just a few years ago. Now i definitely consider myself a total comic book nerd.
 
2013-02-04 04:11:47 PM

NeoCortex42: Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:


To be fair prior to the first X-men movie we were also getting this:

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And I honestly think the importance of Blade is super underrated when it comes how big a deal comic book movies are these days. I mean the movie made like 130 million on a 45 million dollar budget and was the first legitimate  theatrical release based on a marvel character. Without Blade doing so well I don't think X-men gets made (or gets less of a budget at least). And X-men is generally regarded as the movie that kicked off the current comic book super hero movie craze.
 
2013-02-04 04:16:32 PM

mechgreg: NeoCortex42: Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:

To be fair prior to the first X-men movie we were also getting this:

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And I honestly think the importance of Blade is super underrated when it comes how big a deal comic book movies are these days. I mean the movie made like 130 million on a 45 million dollar budget and was the first legitimate  theatrical release based on a marvel character. Without Blade doing so well I don't think X-men gets made (or gets less of a budget at least). And X-men is generally regarded as the movie that kicked off the current comic book super hero movie craze.


Actually, Men in Black would have been the first successful Marvel Comics movie.

/granted, Marvel only owned MiB because Malibu bought Aircel, and Marvel bought Malibu. But MiB was a Marvel property, and did come before Blade.
 
2013-02-04 04:21:49 PM

daysofinspiration: You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?


One film was almost entirely responsible for the resurgence of the comic book movie industry.

www.movieposter.com

You're welcome...
 
2013-02-04 04:22:38 PM

mechgreg: And I honestly think the importance of Blade is super underrated when it comes how big a deal comic book movies are these days. I mean the movie made like 130 million on a 45 million dollar budget and was the first legitimate theatrical release based on a marvel character. Without Blade doing so well I don't think X-men gets made (or gets less of a budget at least). And X-men is generally regarded as the movie that kicked off the current comic book super hero movie craze.


You beat me to it, buddy. But right on.
 
2013-02-04 05:02:05 PM

phattybeefpatty: Exactly. If they pull this off, bravo. It's going to be a really hard sell though. Movie producers are spineless pussies that are known to shiat all over good things. Lets hope the Disney overlords step out of the way to let thus be done the right way.


Do remember that the 'Primary' Disney overlord these days is John Lasseter, God of Pixar. I believe he is the 'chief creative director' or some such?

/This is why Wreck it Ralph REALLY felt like a Pixar film.
 
2013-02-04 06:01:10 PM

Cyno01: Which is what we saw towards the end of Avengers to some extent when he wasnt being whammied by Loki.


There's a subtle sublot to that: Stark, ever the consummate ambitious type, wants Banner to embrace the Hulk, control him, utilize him for the goodness of all. Stark constantly teases and tests and urges Banner to accept who he is. So it's telling that it's Hulk that saves Stark at the end, instead of killing him (as rage Hulk would have).... so even by then it's become apparent that, while still a raging ball of fark YOU, the Hulk is a bit more composed and can direct his rage when needed. You see maturity and growth in his character. I'm interested to see what happens with this character arc in future installments..... whether he can live a normal life or whether some future event resets everything to tragedy again.
 
2013-02-04 06:06:26 PM

Ishkur: Cyno01: Which is what we saw towards the end of Avengers to some extent when he wasnt being whammied by Loki.

There's a subtle sublot to that: Stark, ever the consummate ambitious type, wants Banner to embrace the Hulk, control him, utilize him for the goodness of all. Stark constantly teases and tests and urges Banner to accept who he is. So it's telling that it's Hulk that saves Stark at the end, instead of killing him (as rage Hulk would have).... so even by then it's become apparent that, while still a raging ball of fark YOU, the Hulk is a bit more composed and can direct his rage when needed. You see maturity and growth in his character. I'm interested to see what happens with this character arc in future installments..... whether he can live a normal life or whether some future event resets everything to tragedy again.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-04 06:13:30 PM

Cyno01: the Hulk is a bit more composed and can direct his rage when needed.


What are you talking about? That is perfectly composed and directed -- just some payback for their previous fight. What, Thor can't take a punch?
 
2013-02-04 06:14:39 PM

Ishkur: Cyno01: the Hulk is a bit more composed and can direct his rage when needed.

What are you talking about? That is perfectly composed and directed -- just some payback for their previous fight. What, Thor can't take a punch?


That also brought the house down when I saw it in the theatre.
 
2013-02-04 07:43:07 PM
I like the idea behind "Planet Hulk" and the cartoon is okay. It's just too overrated. I can't remember now because it's been awhile since I've seen it, but I remember thinking there was a lot of plot holes and the story just isn't that strong.
 
2013-02-04 07:58:31 PM

whosits_112: texdent: And as someone mentioned elsewhere, there's a minor problem with this. The Hulk was sent into space by the Illuminati and there's yet to be an Inhumans, Namor, or Dr. Strange movie. Plus, Xavier isn't owned by Marvel Studios.

Well they don't have to go the EXACT route taken in the comics. Like everything else they have done, they can tweak it to fit the Marvel Movie Universe. Maybe have it as The Avengers ganging up on Banner and shooting him into space because he is too dangerous, or he was captured by enemies and shot into space. Doesn't matter. I trust the gang at Marvel to make it plausible as to why/how he got there.


or hell have hulk do something truely ravaging and bruce himself suggests or goes along with it.
 
2013-02-04 08:20:50 PM
You ever wonder how big Hulk's crank is ?
 
2013-02-04 08:56:48 PM

elvindeath: You ever wonder how big Hulk's crank is ?


www.zuguide.com
 
2013-02-04 09:31:19 PM

daysofinspiration: Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?

You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.


Not the 90s, per se, but one movie in the 90s - Schumacher killed things. But that was the late 90s, and X-Men was only a few years later. The Batman movies before that all did killer box office, and all in the 90s. Superman movies did great, until the movies were total shiat and then the public stayed away.

Why mention how long it took to make Iron Man when the first 2 X-Men films, Spider-Man, and a bunch of others (much less well received) were made for years before that.

Using good actors is nothing new. Sure, Christopher Reeve was unknown, but Kidder and Hackman were both positively reviewed actors prior to that. And leave us not forget the first Batman film.

Your arguments are sound, unless you actually consider the history I spoke of. :)
 
2013-02-04 09:33:22 PM

NeoCortex42: daysofinspiration: Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?

You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.

Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:
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Ah. so we're assuming he meant the golden age of MARVEL movies. Got it. I misunderstood "comic book" to mean more than just one publisher.
 
2013-02-04 10:27:16 PM

elvindeath: You ever wonder how big Hulk's crank is ?


Hulk strongest crank there is
 
2013-02-04 10:41:29 PM

Ultravibe: NeoCortex42: daysofinspiration: Ultravibe: CarnySaur: This seems exciting from a comic book nerd's perspective, but I'm wondering how long this golden age of comic book movies is going to last before the general public just gets tired of them.

You do realize that comic book movies have been drawing in pretty large crowds since about 1977, right?

You do realize the 90's pretty much killed comic book movies as they were known at the time, right?

You do realize it took over a decade to get an Iron Man movie made, right? And now they have actually linked the movies together and made the Avengers, something that would have been impossible 10 years ago, let alone in 1977.

This has been the golden age of comic book movies in the sense that they actually are making an effort to make movies that would actually be pretty decent without the respective licenses. Not to mention they are using pretty good actors - for the most part anyway.

Yeah, prior to the X-Men and Spider-Man movie series starting up, we were mostly getting crap like this:
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Ah. so we're assuming he meant the golden age of MARVEL movies. Got it. I misunderstood "comic book" to mean more than just one publisher.


Except DC has been completely unable to put anything other than Superman and Batman movies that mean anything. Marvel (whether themselves or Fox/Sony/New Line) has gotten pretty good Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Hulk movies out. Unless Justice League smashes the box office, DC comics should just rename themselves to World's Finest Comics.
 
2013-02-04 10:42:07 PM
I hope they don't do World War Hulk like the comics, because it would mean Hulk could never work with the Avengers again without it being dumb. In order for them to work together, Hulk would have to forgive them, and SHIELD would have to forget all about his terrible rampage. If they do Planet Hulk, they could have him launched into space by the fight with Thanos, like the article hints at.
 
2013-02-04 11:10:25 PM

Trocadero: Except DC has been completely unable to put anything other than Superman and Batman movies that mean anything. Marvel (whether themselves or Fox/Sony/New Line) has gotten pretty good Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Hulk movies out. Unless Justice League smashes the box office, DC comics should just rename themselves to World's Finest Comics.


But the DCAU ( starting with Batman: The Animated Series, that is) utterly crushes the animated Marvel equivalents. Go figure..
 
2013-02-04 11:43:39 PM
Even in the very beginning of his career/existence, the Hulk was not dumb. Throughout most of his early years he was talking and thinking perfectly well. People keep mistaking Hulk's speech patterns for Tarzan's or Tonto's, but he formed whole sentences and usually used pronouns and articles properly, even if he did often refer to himself in third-person (though not always!)

WRONG: "Hulk no like puny flag-man!"
RIGHT: "Hulk doesn't like puny flag-man!"

WRONG: "HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!"
RIGHT: "HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!"

Behold these early panels...


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2013-02-04 11:50:48 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Trocadero: Except DC has been completely unable to put anything other than Superman and Batman movies that mean anything. Marvel (whether themselves or Fox/Sony/New Line) has gotten pretty good Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Hulk movies out. Unless Justice League smashes the box office, DC comics should just rename themselves to World's Finest Comics.

But the DCAU ( starting with Batman: The Animated Series, that is) utterly crushes the animated Marvel equivalents.live action portions of both Marvel and DC stomping on them like a boot to the face forever.  Go figure..


Fixed that for you.
 
2013-02-05 12:18:28 AM

ZeroCorpse: Even in the very beginning of his career/existence, the Hulk was not dumb. Throughout most of his early years he was talking and thinking perfectly well. People keep mistaking Hulk's speech patterns for Tarzan's or Tonto's, but he formed whole sentences and usually used pronouns and articles properly, even if he did often refer to himself in third-person (though not always!)

WRONG: "Hulk no like puny flag-man!"
RIGHT: "Hulk doesn't like puny flag-man!"

WRONG: "HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!"
RIGHT: "HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!"

Behold these early panels...


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Thank you for the PSA!

Hulk not always big moran! Puny humans make Hulk sound like hit on head SNL collection of Frankenstein, Hulk, and Tonto put together. Hulk am mightier that all of them. Hulk even have Mr. Fixit phase and grey hulk!

Seriously though, I like your point of order. The Hulk is not a completely mindless oaf. He's just really goddamned violent. He's the modern day (nuclear age) werewolf story.
 
2013-02-05 08:03:34 AM

Fano: Hulk not always big moran! Puny humans make Hulk sound like hit on head SNL collection of Frankenstein, Hulk, and Tonto put together.


I have Frankenstein, Hulk, Tonto and Tarzan sing Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young on vinyl.
 
2013-02-05 01:26:01 PM

Apos: YES PLEASE


Agreed!

media.comicvine.com
 
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