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(CBC)   Awesome: Winning all expense paid trip to the Superbowl. Not so awesome: Denied entry to the US because of a drug conviction. 2 grams of marijuana. 32 years ago   (cbc.ca) divider line 192
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2013-02-03 07:25:10 PM
haha, stupid canadian hippie. nobody likes pot, and we don't need your joints down here, messing up our football games.
 
2013-02-03 07:31:54 PM
Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?
 
2013-02-03 07:41:05 PM

fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?


for hate's sake, we spit our last breath at thee....
 
2013-02-03 07:58:35 PM
15 yard penalty.
Misuse of the ironic tag.
 
2013-02-03 08:05:11 PM

fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?


For possession of a naturally-occurring substance that's less toxic than purified water, more widespread than most other plant-life, with plenty of legitimate medical and industrial uses and with no side-effects except laziness, a case of the munchies and being kinda tired?

Of course not! Pharmaceutical companies can't turn a profit if any shmuck with access to dirt, water and sunlight can grow his own cancer medicine instead of spending hundreds or thousands of dollars per dose, nobody will buy newspapers printed on wood paper if they can read the news on hemp paper, and the coloreds will start playing jazz music and looking at white women.
 
2013-02-03 08:14:48 PM
All crimes are felonies now. So move along, Citizen.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-02-03 08:31:39 PM
i1221.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-03 08:33:14 PM
This will surely cause the economy to recover!
 
2013-02-03 08:41:53 PM
We have to protect the children!
 
2013-02-03 09:20:28 PM
Same but opposite thing happened to a friend of mine when he tried to enter Canada, but his marijuana charge was from '78. Time for both countries to knock this shiat off.
 
2013-02-03 09:23:57 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Same but opposite thing happened to a friend of mine when he tried to enter Canada, but his marijuana charge was from '78. Time for both countries to knock this shiat off.


I concur.
 
2013-02-03 09:34:21 PM
Agreed.
 
2013-02-03 09:39:55 PM
Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?
 
2013-02-03 10:15:13 PM

BravadoGT: Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?


wait - you aren't one of those people who actually believes cannabis is exactly the same as meth, are you?  because if you are, imma laugh at you and mock your lack of intelligence.
 
2013-02-03 10:42:34 PM
Waaah laws apply to me.
 
2013-02-03 10:46:30 PM
I don't care what contest you've won, we don't want your drugs in this country, period.  We have enough crime and issues and addicts as it is, last thing we need is more of the same.  I don't care if it's for a short "trip", you can do lots of real damage in only a few hours, let alone days or a week.
 
2013-02-03 10:48:10 PM
I guess it really did go on his permanent record.
 
2013-02-03 10:49:07 PM
"Ironic"? I'm normally not part of the Irony Police, but... What?
 
2013-02-03 10:49:35 PM
I have no problem with this. If you dont want to face the consequences then dont be a drug junkie.
 
2013-02-03 10:50:25 PM

Weaver95: BravadoGT: Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?

wait - you aren't one of those people who actually believes cannabis is exactly the same as meth, are you?  because if you are, imma laugh at you and mock your lack of intelligence.


I've got him marked as a recidivist threadshiatter. Best to ignore and move on.
 
2013-02-03 10:50:33 PM

fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?


There is no right to cross a nations border.  The United States can deny him entrance for any reason.

/and the US doesn't have a monopoly on stupid border rules
 
2013-02-03 10:51:43 PM
Serves him right.

(for wanting to see the StupidBowl to begin with)
 
2013-02-03 10:52:00 PM
Sucks for him, but laws are laws, and you should respect it.

How would you feel if a bunch of Americans went to Saudi Arabia, drank alcohol, and tried to talk to women in public who aren't their relatives?
 
2013-02-03 10:52:42 PM

Not_Todd: I guess it really did go on his permanent record.


I went North and South of the border this past summer, with guns. It's nice to know my record is clean. You never know what kind of shiat those people will put on there.
 
2013-02-03 10:52:42 PM
good riddance.  he was probably just going to bring in chill vibes and friendly banter anyway, and most people in the US hate that sort of thing.
 
2013-02-03 10:53:01 PM
Hay gov'ment...

What r u doin?

HAY GOV'MENT...

STAAAHP!!!
 
2013-02-03 10:53:42 PM
Just mad because American drunk drivers are refused entry to Canada.
 
2013-02-03 10:54:04 PM
A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.
 
2013-02-03 10:54:51 PM
Sounds like somebody smoked a...
( •_•)⌐■-■

...super bowl.
(⌐■_■)
 
2013-02-03 10:55:35 PM
I knew a fellow who was almost denied entry into Canada from the US based on a 20-year-old DUI.  It was a tricky situation since he'd been working up here for a couple of years and this was were his wife and all his stuff was.

Anyway, it seems odd to me that if you pay your debt to society and get are granted a pardon then this should be an issue going in either direction.  Especially if the original charge was, in essence, a ticket.
 
2013-02-03 10:55:41 PM
In other words, violating the law has repercussions.
 
2013-02-03 10:58:32 PM
Dumbass.
Its a quick pop into court for a quicky pardon and get your record sealed and you are free to enter any country pot smoking hippy again.
 
2013-02-03 10:59:02 PM
Well, I feel safer.
 
2013-02-03 11:00:28 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I knew a fellow who was almost denied entry into Canada from the US based on a 20-year-old DUI.  It was a tricky situation since he'd been working up here for a couple of years and this was were his wife and all his stuff was.

Anyway, it seems odd to me that if you pay your debt to society and get are granted a pardon then this should be an issue going in either direction.  Especially if the original charge was, in essence, a ticket.


What I don't understand is, Canada is really more like Puerto Rico or Guam relative to the United States than a real sovereign nation. We should get to take whatever we want up there and pee on stuff. They should be thankful they share a border with us.

ungrateful firkin frostbacks
 
2013-02-03 11:00:59 PM

AssAsInAssassin: Well, I feel safer.


shakes tiny fist...
 
2013-02-03 11:01:21 PM

sheep snorter: Dumbass.
Its a quick pop into court for a quicky pardon and get your record sealed and you are free to enter any country pot smoking hippy again.


It's not that simple, actually. And the US doesn't recognize Canadian pardons anyway, or vice versa.
 
2013-02-03 11:01:31 PM
Tit for tat.
 
2013-02-03 11:02:06 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-02-03 11:02:44 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: "Ironic"? I'm normally not part of the Irony Police, but... What?


"Bud"
 
2013-02-03 11:02:48 PM

filter: Tit for tat.


better than tats on tits, I hate that!
 
2013-02-03 11:03:03 PM

sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


True, but many people would argue that the repercussions do not match the severity of the crime. Repercussions only exist because we allow them to exist.
 
2013-02-03 11:03:31 PM
I'd seriously rent a car and run the border if that happened.
 
2013-02-03 11:03:34 PM

zvoidx: Sounds like somebody smoked a...
( •_•)⌐■-■

...super bowl.
(⌐■_■)


YEAAAAAAAHHH!

/oblig
 
2013-02-03 11:03:50 PM
My friend had to fill out all kinds of paperwork to get into Canuckidah plus provide two letters of reference.

Funny thing is that I was one of them.
 
2013-02-03 11:03:59 PM
Well, it was just the ravens and 49ers.  It's not like he really missed all that much.  He may have had more excitement sitting in customs.
 
2013-02-03 11:04:22 PM

some_beer_drinker: haha, stupid canadian hippie. nobody likes pot, and we don't need your joints down here, messing up our football games.


This right up there.

I even hate beer. I'm a bourbon man, but potheads smell.
 
2013-02-03 11:04:22 PM
2 things you never hear.

1. Government admitting it was wrong.

2. A man admitting he has a short dick.

...unless there is something to be gained, typically their own neck.
 
2013-02-03 11:04:48 PM
Funny the article mentions all of the Canadians denied going into the US for pointless old convictions but fails to mention all of the stupid things Canada denies entry for US residents.  Bias much?

/Canada started it and the US followed suit
//Still doesn't make it right
 
2013-02-03 11:05:40 PM

Bathia_Mapes: IamKaiserSoze!!!: Same but opposite thing happened to a friend of mine when he tried to enter Canada, but his marijuana charge was from '78. Time for both countries to knock this shiat off.

I concur.


I disagree. A criminal is a criminal.
 
2013-02-03 11:07:13 PM

Weaver95: BravadoGT: Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?

wait - you aren't one of those people who actually believes cannabis is exactly the same as meth, are you?  because if you are, imma laugh at you and mock your lack of intelligence.


gateway drug, man. gateway drug. 32 years ago, it was pot. Today, I'm sure he's mainlining left over nut from a Toronto hooker's purse.
 
2013-02-03 11:07:15 PM
This is something the Canadian media likes to do: point out how the US is corrupt and Canada is great by comparison.....but rarely takes a hard look at itself.
 
2013-02-03 11:07:24 PM
Must be more to this story. If he got $50 ticket, then I don't think he would have a criminal record. Could be mistaken though.

/US customs officers are made up of people who failed the mall security IQ test
 
2013-02-03 11:08:08 PM

Tumunga: I disagree. A criminal is a criminal.


Luckily you don't live in a glass house.
 
2013-02-03 11:08:34 PM

MrHappyRotter: I don't care what contest you've won, we don't want your drugs in this country, period.  We have enough crime and issues and addicts as it is, last thing we need is more of the same.  I don't care if it's for a short "trip", you can do lots of real damage in only a few hours, let alone days or a week.


0/10

/not even worth commenting on how stupid/lame that was
 
2013-02-03 11:09:52 PM

Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.


You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.
 
2013-02-03 11:10:00 PM
ajgeek

All crimes are felonies now. So move along, Citizen.

For drug crimes it's getting to be that way.
 
2013-02-03 11:11:44 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I knew a fellow who was almost denied entry into Canada from the US based on a 20-year-old DUI.  It was a tricky situation since he'd been working up here for a couple of years and this was were his wife and all his stuff was.

Anyway, it seems odd to me that if you pay your debt to society and get are granted a pardon then this should be an issue going in either direction.  Especially if the original charge was, in essence, a ticket  because he was lucky that he didn't kill a single mom and her two small children.


ftfy.
 
2013-02-03 11:12:48 PM
Sure today we say WTF for pot big freaken deal!!!!! BUT.......32 years ago 2 grams of pot is like getting caught today with a pound of heroin and a few guns, that guy must have been "crazy" law breaking government hating nut job....or stoned.
 
2013-02-03 11:14:37 PM

KimNorth: Sure today we say WTF for pot big freaken deal!!!!! BUT.......32 years ago 2 grams of pot is like getting caught today with a pound of heroin and a few guns, that guy must have been "crazy" law breaking government hating nut job....or stoned.


32 years ago up to an ounce was a $15 ticket in Ann Arbor
 
2013-02-03 11:15:38 PM

King Something: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

For possession of a naturally-occurring substance that's less toxic than purified water(LIE 1),more widespread than most other plant-life(LIE 2),with plenty of legitimate medical and industrial uses and with no side-effects except laziness, a case of the munchies and being kinda tired(LIE 3)?

 
2013-02-03 11:16:05 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.


I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash
 
2013-02-03 11:16:54 PM
2 grams!? That's like, what? $1000, street value, right?
 
2013-02-03 11:18:45 PM
Well his mistake was coming in from the northern side...come from the Southern border my Canadian friends. When will you learn?
 
2013-02-03 11:19:18 PM
He knew he couldn't come over.

For one, they told him when he got convicted.
For two, they told him at the border the last time he tried.  I'm sure this isn't the first time in 32 years.

A lifetime ban means just that.

If in fact he could have gotten it taken care of for $500, he needed to do that when he won the contest.  It looks like he didn't.
 
2013-02-03 11:20:00 PM
Usually any drug crime makes you inadmissible to the U.S., but there's an exception if the crime was possession of marijuana under 30 grams, as long as it was for personal use. Assuming he has no other crimes he should've been allowed in, just would've needed to call an immigration attorney to write something up for port parole.
 
2013-02-03 11:20:25 PM
pinkie.ponychan.net
 
2013-02-03 11:20:29 PM
Man, awful lot of hate for 'merka in the CBC's comments section there.

You guys have the same rule as us.  Any criminal convinction is a reason to deny entry.  (Well, that and any DUI convinction is a reason to deny entry into Canada even though it isn't/wasn't necessarily a criminal matter in the states.)

Don't like it?  We'll change our policy when you change yours.

/Suck it, smug Canucks.
 
2013-02-03 11:21:02 PM
hahaguy.jpg

He should have flown to Mexico first, then just came on up from the southern border. He'd have no trouble getting to the game that way.
 
2013-02-03 11:21:22 PM

sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.



So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.
 
2013-02-03 11:22:16 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: "Ironic"? I'm normally not part of the Irony Police, but... What?


ironic, as in "10000 spoons when all you need is a knife"
 
2013-02-03 11:22:48 PM

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.

I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash


Last I checked the $1000 bribe was for 2nd offenders along with a 10 year wait and some other absurdly expensive paperwork.
 
2013-02-03 11:23:22 PM

OregonVet: Tumunga: I disagree. A criminal is a criminal.

Luckily you don't live in a glass house.


Nope. It's vinyl, and I've never broken the law in public, so there. Now, your mom on the other hand...
 
2013-02-03 11:25:20 PM

Devo37: Fluorescent Testicle: "Ironic"? I'm normally not part of the Irony Police, but... What?

ironic, as in "10000 spoons when all you need is a knife"


*golfclap*  Well played, good sir!
 
2013-02-03 11:25:24 PM
2 grams? Keep your metric system in your own damn country!
 
2013-02-03 11:28:03 PM
2 grams?  What, did he leave a twig in a baggie or something?

fark Canada.  A buddy of mine was denied entry forever because Canada BSA found a seed on his floor mat at the gate.
 
2013-02-03 11:29:02 PM
As someone who was denied entry to Canada for a ajudicated conviction in a sealed record from nearly 30 years ago, I'm not really getting much of a kick out of this thread.

Protip: When immigration asks you if you think the current line of questioning is a joke, do not answer "yes".
 
2013-02-03 11:29:43 PM
Yeah!  You just stay up there in Canadia with your floppy heads and all.
 
2013-02-03 11:35:45 PM

lolpix: 2 grams? Keep your metric system in your own damn country!


i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-03 11:35:59 PM
Well, to be fair, 2 grams of weaponized, aerosolized marijuana could kill the entire population of the eastern seaboard of the United States.
 
2013-02-03 11:37:17 PM

you are a puppet: Usually any drug crime makes you inadmissible to the U.S., but there's an exception if the crime was possession of marijuana under 30 grams, as long as it was for personal use. Assuming he has no other crimes he should've been allowed in, just would've needed to call an immigration attorney to write something up for port parole.


This, actually. It's not hard to dot your "i"s and cross your "t"s prior to crossing the border from one country to another, especially if it's because you've won a prize. Next time, call ahead.
 
2013-02-03 11:37:59 PM

apoptotic: sheep snorter: Dumbass.
Its a quick pop into court for a quicky pardon and get your record sealed and you are free to enter any country pot smoking hippy again.

It's not that simple, actually. And the US doesn't recognize Canadian pardons anyway, or vice versa.


A pardon will remove it from any record that could be found by the standard check, though, right?
And when you are asked if you have any convictions, if you have received a pardon you can answer "no" without it being considered false info, if I understand things correctly.

That being said, a pardon takes 6-8 months minimum, I believe, and some $. If he didn't feel that he needed to get a pardon for any other reason up until now, even if he had realized it was going to be a problem for this trip, he didn't have enough notice to get it done.
 
2013-02-03 11:39:58 PM

shotglasss: hahaguy.jpg

He should have flown to Mexico first, then just came on up from the southern border. He'd have no trouble getting to the game that way.


There's really no point in trying that when the airlines provide US authorities with the passengers lists of any planes that cross through US airspace.
 
2013-02-03 11:40:20 PM

you are a puppet: Usually any drug crime makes you inadmissible to the U.S., but there's an exception if the crime was possession of marijuana under 30 grams, as long as it was for personal use. Assuming he has no other crimes he should've been allowed in, just would've needed to call an immigration attorney to write something up for port parole.


If it's not even that big of a deal and we make a distinction legally, I don't even see why he should even have to call anyone or do anything about it.  If they're able to tell that he has a conviction, can't they also see that it was for less than 30 grams?
 
2013-02-03 11:46:24 PM
If he'd stuck with Bud Lite instead of Bud Lit, he wouldn't be in this shiat...

/ fark borders - why can't we have a world with no borders?
 
2013-02-03 11:47:15 PM

jmr61: sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.


No, both GW Bush and Dick Cheney have visited Canada. Between them, they have 5 DWI*.


*Texas lost all of Bush's driving records when he was elected Govornor, it is thought he committed at least one DWI in Texas.
 
2013-02-03 11:53:26 PM
Fly to Mexico and come in to this country like most do. Problem solved.

Wait..... Game over... Too bad
 
2013-02-03 11:53:53 PM
Not ironic and "Super Bowl" is two words.
 
2013-02-03 11:54:22 PM

jmr61: sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.


Probably. I've seen it happen on a 20 year old DUI. Also, my wife's sister and her husband are now barred from coming here (thank GOODNESS, since my sister-in-law is a total vindictive, rude, judgmental, selfish witch since she quit drinking a few years ago. She was a lot happier as a drunk - now she is just sober and psychotic.)

Mind you, sis and her husband have enough DUIs between them that he can't use his commercial license without an interlock and she actually served a month in jail (in WI, where usually they don't much care) for her DUIs.
 
2013-02-03 11:56:01 PM

Elzar: If he'd stuck with Bud Lite instead of Bud Lit, he wouldn't be in this shiat...

/ fark borders - why can't we have a world with no borders?


Because mexicans.
 
2013-02-03 11:57:00 PM

jmr61: So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?


mr. zobear's 21 year old DUI got him carefully scrutinized and led to his having to fill out several forms (I think he had to apply for a Canadian visa of some sort) and promising not to leave the airport when he was flying to Europe via Toronto last year.

At some point it becomes bullshiat to have to pay to prove you've been rehabilitated.

/group W bench graduate.
 
2013-02-03 11:57:54 PM
They don't care about my mushroom offense, been back and forth plenty since then.

boggling
 
2013-02-03 11:58:33 PM

TheRealAde: apoptotic: sheep snorter: Dumbass.
Its a quick pop into court for a quicky pardon and get your record sealed and you are free to enter any country pot smoking hippy again.

It's not that simple, actually. And the US doesn't recognize Canadian pardons anyway, or vice versa.

A pardon will remove it from any record that could be found by the standard check, though, right?
And when you are asked if you have any convictions, if you have received a pardon you can answer "no" without it being considered false info, if I understand things correctly.

That being said, a pardon takes 6-8 months minimum, I believe, and some $. If he didn't feel that he needed to get a pardon for any other reason up until now, even if he had realized it was going to be a problem for this trip, he didn't have enough notice to get it done.


No, receiving a pardon just lets you answer No to the question (used on employment/volunteer applications) "Have you ever been convicted in Canada of a crime for which a pardon has not been granted?". It doesn't guarantee that US officials can't still see your record, as they would have had access to it before it was set apart (not sealed) by CPIC. There is no way to know if they accessed/made note of your record before a pardon was issued. Since the border guards ask if you've ever been convicted of a crime (or possibly even if you've ever been arrested), answering No would be a lie, and they take lying pretty seriously.

What's needed to enter the US is a travel waiver, which is completely different from a Canadian pardon. The one similarity would be the cost and wait time.  You can apply for a waiver whether or not you've gotten a pardon, and whether you're granted a waiver is up to whoever happens to process the application. Before applying for a waiver it wouldn't hurt to request a "detailed information check" on yourself so you know what US officials will see. I found that out the hard way when I was denied a waiver. Upon investigating, I found what I assume is the reason - I had a severe allergic reaction to a prescription medication, and when a family member called the police to come check on me because he couldn't reach me, the dispatcher keyed it in as a "possible overdose", so as far as the person processing my waiver application was concerned, police records show that I'm a junkie.
 
2013-02-03 11:59:35 PM

austerity101: you are a puppet: Usually any drug crime makes you inadmissible to the U.S., but there's an exception if the crime was possession of marijuana under 30 grams, as long as it was for personal use. Assuming he has no other crimes he should've been allowed in, just would've needed to call an immigration attorney to write something up for port parole.

If it's not even that big of a deal and we make a distinction legally, I don't even see why he should even have to call anyone or do anything about it.  If they're able to tell that he has a conviction, can't they also see that it was for less than 30 grams?


Not really, they would just have a copy of his criminal record but no details outside the name of what he charged with. So they see something along the lines of MARIJUANA POSSESSION - MISD, w/e it's called in the state he was arrested in. You would need to show that the crime he was charged with e.g. State code 16-343 is for marijuana under an an ounce. And you would have to show them the part of the INA that says under 30 grams is an exception, because they might not know that without being told.  And you would have to be nice because just because they still have discretion. But 2 grams of marijuana, 32 years ago? Get an attorney to write something up and make it nice and pretty and you will almost definitely be allowed in.
 
2013-02-04 12:01:39 AM

fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?


No, because Terror.
 
2013-02-04 12:07:17 AM

fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?


Um, statute of limitations doesn't apply to convictions, dude.
 
2013-02-04 12:07:22 AM
These rules are for plebes. They don't ask these questions to those arriving on private planes.
 
2013-02-04 12:08:46 AM

jmr61: sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.


Yes, and why exactly do you think it shouldn't?  You don't have a right to crossing another country's border. You are there by-their-leave and nothing more.
 
2013-02-04 12:10:09 AM
I have no idea what this thread is about... please check how long I have been around... I love you all... but today I feel likie checking out... I am hoping  you smart assess can stop me
 
2013-02-04 12:12:34 AM

jmr61: sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.


If Canada says so, then yes.  You are the idiot with the DUI, no one else.
 
2013-02-04 12:13:52 AM
dude's own fault..not hard to apply for a pardon, and be successful with it
 
2013-02-04 12:14:34 AM
Don't try to go to the US with a Kinder Egg or bring a baby walker to Canada. You might do hard time.

I was arrested when I was 18. I wasn't hauled in and printed, they did all the paperwork in the cruiser. I went to court and got a year of probation. I couldn't leave the province but I called in to most of my probation appointments. She didn't seem to care, she was super old. Anyway, it didn't have any effect on my ability to cross the border or get a job working with a LOT of money. That surprised the hell out of me.

I think a really old pot bust isn't worth keeping him out.
 
2013-02-04 12:15:19 AM

ciberido: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

No, because Terror.


No limitations to a conviction record. It's forever. Canada is very quick to bar entry. If you don't have enough funds or clothes packed when crossing the border for a vacation could lead to being denied entry.
 
2013-02-04 12:16:01 AM
i just grabbed the newest thread, I could care less about the game
 
2013-02-04 12:16:11 AM

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.

I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash


Anyone else have stories of having DUI's and going to Canada? If I wanted to go the legit, legal way? I've heard from as short as 2 years to as long as...well, being denied by the consulate and never getting in.

I had a DUI two years ago, no damage or anything, just pulled over and arrested/convicted. Any guesses on how long until I can apply for the 'letter of rehabilitation' or whatever?
 
2013-02-04 12:16:41 AM

kevra: I have no idea what this thread is about... please check how long I have been around... I love you all... but today I feel likie checking out... I am hoping  you smart assess can stop me


Assuming you're being serious, I'll respond seriously - please don't rely on us smart asses. Please look up the number for your nearest helpline, where there are people specifically trained for this sort of thing. I'm not saying that in order to blow you off, it's just the only thing I know to recommend.
 
2013-02-04 12:19:25 AM
Actions have consequences? Who knew?
 
2013-02-04 12:19:25 AM
is htere a number in the MA area?  911, I dont have insusrance... and not trolling
 
2013-02-04 12:19:50 AM

RockofAges: Eventually all the cranks will shuffle from this mortal coil and common sense with regard to social issues may once again reign.


You mean like when the people who were young in the 1960s grew up and started running things? Money trumps common sense every single time.
 
2013-02-04 12:22:47 AM

kevra: is htere a number in the MA area?  911, I dont have insusrance... and not trolling



http://www.suicidehotlines.com/massachusetts.html
 
2013-02-04 12:24:00 AM
thank you i will give it a try
 
2013-02-04 12:25:10 AM

kevra: i just grabbed the newest thread, I could care less about the game


The above link has anonymous online crisis chat, also.
 
2013-02-04 12:25:51 AM

Jim_Callahan: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

Um, statute of limitations doesn't apply to convictions, dude.


Well, there should be.

"Isn't our system of justice based on the idea that a man can change?"

"Ahhh, I'll have the boys check into that."

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2013-02-04 12:26:42 AM

kriegfusion: Anyone else have stories of having DUI's and going to Canada? If I wanted to go the legit, legal way? I've heard from as short as 2 years to as long as...well, being denied by the consulate and never getting in.

I had a DUI two years ago, no damage or anything, just pulled over and arrested/convicted. Any guesses on how long until I can apply for the 'letter of rehabilitation' or whatever?


You can apply for what's called an Approval of Rehabilitation 5 or 10 years after sentence completion (jail time, probation or payment of fines), depending what the maximum sentence could have been.
 
2013-02-04 12:29:14 AM
Yikes, Border five-oh...

I'm feeling like a criminal.

/I've been a bad, bad girl?
 
2013-02-04 12:31:00 AM

Brick-House: filter: Tit for tat.

better than tats on tits, I hate that!


What is tat and where can I exchange it for the other thing?
 
2013-02-04 12:34:43 AM
I have no problem with this. Once a pothead, always a pothead. What if he started to have an episode of reefer madness in the stadium and start killing people?
 
2013-02-04 12:36:15 AM

gingerjet: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

There is no right to cross a nations border.  The United States can deny him entrance for any reason.


Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.
 
2013-02-04 12:36:37 AM
I was denied entrance to Canada for the same reason.  It was Dominion day, and the border guard didn't even know it.  Rest assured frozen farkers, your strategic reserves of dill pickle dip are vigorously protected.

That and I suppose fewer people witness their pathetic "I dont really give a shiat, some limey gave us this place for free" fireworks display.
 
2013-02-04 12:37:41 AM

stuffy: Actions have consequences? Who knew?


like committing mortage fraud?
 
2013-02-04 12:40:10 AM

bmr68: Canada is very quick to bar entry. If you don't have enough funds or clothes packed when crossing the border for a vacation could lead to being denied entry.


I've heard this said before, too, but I'm just glad I've never encountered it in person. My only trips to Canada have been for long weekends in Montreal, but I've never been asked for proof of lodging, luggage or bank-account info at the border. Maybe they only get worried if you're planning on staying for a week.

Most they've done to my friends or me is warn us to "go easy on the ladies" when we were going up as a group of guys. Oh, and one border guard recognized that my license plate was a reference to online gaming. I didn't admit that I mostly play first-person shooters...I figured that wouldn't help my case.
 
2013-02-04 12:40:51 AM

JasonOfOrillia: Anyway, it seems odd to me that if you pay your debt to society and get are granted a pardon then this should be an issue going in either direction.  Especially if the original charge was, in essence, a ticket.


The article does not mention that he got a pardon. Theoretically if he had, it should not appear on a standard background check and the border agent wouldn't have known about it (assuming he hasn't been rejected at the border before, at least. He would almost certainly get a pardon if he applied (and paid the fee).

GoodOmens: Funny the article mentions all of the Canadians denied going into the US for pointless old convictions but fails to mention all of the stupid things Canada denies entry for US residents.  Bias much?

/Canada started it and the US followed suit
//Still doesn't make it right


Funny, the article criticizes the Canadian government drug policy and makes no mention of US policies other than to say that people were denied entry. Anyone saying this is an anti-US hack job either didn't read the article or is an idiot.
 
2013-02-04 12:43:51 AM
I'm sure the border agent had the entire history of the conviction, court transcripts, and the authority to make a judgement call based on his own personal beliefs, right?

Give me a break. A computer screen gave a red light and the border agent responded as trained. The details have nothing to do with it. It's a clerical issue.

For the record, what the guy did was illegal. He broke the law. Whether the law is justified or rational is irrelevant. Actions have consequences, and often far-reaching ones. Before someone gets on my case by trying to rationalize marijuana use, let me stop you here. I am a supporter of getting marijuana legalized. But until it is legalized, it's still a crime and you're taking a chance if you ignore the law.
 
2013-02-04 12:45:23 AM

kevra: I have no idea what this thread is about... please check how long I have been around... I love you all... but today I feel likie checking out... I am hoping  you smart assess can stop me


Hey. I really hope you don't.

You've gotta be your own best friend, best caretaker and best advocate. Google some suicide helplines for your area.

Boston area? Here's what I found:

http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/gov/departments/dph/programs/community-hea lt h/dvip/injury-prevention/suicide-prevention/

Google a local hospital and call them, and ask them about mental health services. Help is out there. Just get on the web and get on the phone and start the process.
 
2013-02-04 12:45:26 AM
doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time
 
2013-02-04 12:45:34 AM

shotglasss: hahaguy.jpg

He should have flown to Mexico first, then just came on up from the southern border. He'd have no trouble getting to the game that way.


I would assume he didn't have a choice, the trip probably included a flight to New Orleans via Pearson. And if he wanted to cross the border by land, the odds of getting through would be better an then get a much cheaper flight out of a US city,
 
2013-02-04 12:46:12 AM
** matter **
 
2013-02-04 12:47:05 AM

gh0strid3r: I'm sure the border agent had the entire history of the conviction, court transcripts, and the authority to make a judgement call based on his own personal beliefs, right?

Give me a break. A computer screen gave a red light and the border agent responded as trained. The details have nothing to do with it. It's a clerical issue.

For the record, what the guy did was illegal. He broke the law. Whether the law is justified or rational is irrelevant. Actions have consequences, and often far-reaching ones. Before someone gets on my case by trying to rationalize marijuana use, let me stop you here. I am a supporter of getting marijuana legalized. But until it is legalized, it's still a crime and you're taking a chance if you ignore the law.


Luck for these people trying to cross the border isn't considered a crime.
How bad would that suck? 32 year old mistake gets you arrested and charged with another crime. Maybe he should count himself lucky he got to walk away.
 
2013-02-04 12:49:05 AM

kriegfusion: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.

I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash

Anyone else have stories of having DUI's and going to Canada? If I wanted to go the legit, legal way? I've heard from as short as 2 years to as long as...well, being denied by the consulate and never getting in.

I had a DUI two years ago, no damage or anything, just pulled over and arrested/convicted. Any guesses on how long until I can apply for the 'letter of rehabilitation' or whatever?


Here ya go:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/rehabil.asp
 
2013-02-04 12:50:36 AM

gh0strid3r: I'm sure the border agent had the entire history of the conviction, court transcripts, and the authority to make a judgement call based on his own personal beliefs, right?

Give me a break. A computer screen gave a red light and the border agent responded as trained. The details have nothing to do with it. It's a clerical issue.

For the record, what the guy did was illegal. He broke the law. Whether the law is justified or rational is irrelevant. Actions have consequences, and often far-reaching ones. Before someone gets on my case by trying to rationalize marijuana use, let me stop you here. I am a supporter of getting marijuana legalized. But until it is legalized, it's still a crime and you're taking a chance if you ignore the law.


You are taking a bigger chance if you blindly follow the policies of your government, dont make me go godwin all over this motherfarker.

If you let a man tell you what you can and can not consume, you'd probably suck his dick if he ordered you to.

So....come suck my dick.
 
2013-02-04 12:50:42 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.

I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash

Last I checked the $1000 bribe was for 2nd offenders along with a 10 year wait and some other absurdly expensive paperwork.


Yeah, I'm just going secondhand based on the word of a co-worker who ran into this a couple of years ago - doesn't affect me, so I never had to deal with it directly.
 
2013-02-04 12:54:40 AM

kevra: doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time


If none of those links work you gotta call 911. Sucks you have no insurance but the bill won't be bad compared to the alternative
 
2013-02-04 12:56:07 AM

kevra: ** matter **


OK maybe we can find a reason for you not to off yourself.  Whats the problem?
 
2013-02-04 12:56:07 AM
Canadians have been doing this same shiat to Americans, only it's for busts in the states, not even in their own country. And now they're gonna whine.

All I have to say is, "SUCK IT CANADA!!"
 
2013-02-04 12:57:05 AM

kevra: doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time


What about the hospital number?

Also... google "Boston walk in health clinics" and give some of them a call.
 
2013-02-04 12:59:40 AM

dywed88: JasonOfOrillia: Anyway, it seems odd to me that if you pay your debt to society and get are granted a pardon then this should be an issue going in either direction. Especially if the original charge was, in essence, a ticket.

The article does not mention that he got a pardon. Theoretically if he had, it should not appear on a standard background check and the border agent wouldn't have known about it (assuming he hasn't been rejected at the border before, at least. He would almost certainly get a pardon if he applied (and paid the fee).


It isn't mentioned and I assume he didn't get a pardon.  After all it was a $50 fine.  Anyway it seems, after some googling, that there are a couple of ways to get into the country if you have a conviction but the severity of the crime and the opinion of the border officer can come into play.
 
2013-02-04 12:59:50 AM
Stupid law, but the guy should not have broken that stupid law.
 
2013-02-04 01:01:15 AM

you are a puppet: kevra: doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time

If none of those links work you gotta call 911. Sucks you have no insurance but the bill won't be bad compared to the alternative


We dont exactly have debtors prisons here.  Just neglect to pay the bill.  If you are going to google them then I suggest you start with a search for states with the lowest statute of limitations on debt.  Hint: Its not Kentucky.
 
2013-02-04 01:03:56 AM

kevra: doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time


FYI, the link I provided seems to take forever to load. Here are the numbers from the link:


Friendly URL: http://www.mass.gov/dph/suicideprevention
Use the link above to return directly to this page in the future.
Crisis Hotlines

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, please call one of the 24-hour crisis hotline numbers below right away:

Samaritans Statewide Hotline: 1-877-870-HOPE (4673)
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255); Press # 1 if you are a Veteran
The Trevor Helpline: 866-4-U-TREVOR (488-7386) - Specifically for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender youth and young adults
 
2013-02-04 01:31:53 AM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: 32 years ago up to an ounce was a $15 ticket in Ann Arbor


Well, that ruins the theory that pot impairs memory!
 
2013-02-04 01:45:57 AM

fusillade762: Jim_Callahan: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

Um, statute of limitations doesn't apply to convictions, dude.

Well, there should be.

"Isn't our system of justice based on the idea that a man can change?"

"Ahhh, I'll have the boys check into that."

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You can file to get minor offenses expunged and if you've had no other offenses since it goes through basically automatically unless you've gotten in further trouble in most states.  If it's still on his record 30 years later it's honestly more his fault than the legal system's.

Basically the difference is that the statute of limitations is automatic, expunged offenses you have to actually request.
 
2013-02-04 01:55:26 AM
That is beyond stupid, as are quite a few of the comments in this thread.

Of those stupid commentators, I wonder how many ever used an illegal drug and only feel smug because they weren't caught.
 
2013-02-04 01:56:50 AM

violentsalvation: That is beyond stupid, as are quite a few of the comments in this thread.

Of those stupid commentators, I wonder how many ever used an illegal drug and only feel smug because they weren't caught.


Or WERE caught, and accepted the repercussions?
 
2013-02-04 02:18:10 AM

Yogimus: violentsalvation: That is beyond stupid, as are quite a few of the comments in this thread.

Of those stupid commentators, I wonder how many ever used an illegal drug and only feel smug because they weren't caught.

Or WERE caught, and accepted the repercussions?


Well then I guess those ones bought into the unachievable and uneducated ideas of prohibition and suffer the needless consequences for their toke or line.
 
2013-02-04 02:28:50 AM

silverjets: jmr61: sprgrss: In other words, violating the law has repercussions.


So my 31 year-old DUI conviction, for which I paid a fine and served a few hours in jail, should be enough to keep me out of Canada?

Idiot.

Yes, and why exactly do you think it shouldn't?  You don't have a right to crossing another country's border. You are there by-their-leave and nothing more.


Everyone has a natural born right to roam the planet they were born on. Armed groups are occupying areas of the world and through force or threat of force are infringing this right. It's amazing how many people mindlessly accept the construct of the nation-state as inevitable.
 
2013-02-04 02:35:42 AM
The average dorm room probably has that much in their vacuum cleaner bag.
 
2013-02-04 02:38:10 AM
kevra: is htere a number in the MA area?  911, I dont have insusrance... and not trolling

kevra: call this number --
(617) 247-0220
 
2013-02-04 02:43:58 AM

Nem Wan: You don't have a right to crossing another country's border. You are there by-their-leave and nothing more.*

*Applies only to northern borders.


/You're welcome.

 
2013-02-04 02:51:47 AM

super_grass: Sucks for him, but laws are laws, and you should respect it.



Well sir, it appears you were convicted for civil disobedience with a Dr. Martin Luther King back in the sixties before moving to Canada and renouncing your citizenship.  Laws are laws.
 
2013-02-04 03:01:48 AM
Customs officials are strange sometimes. When I studied abroad in Russia for the first time, the guy decided to make a joke asking if I had been studying Communism. He also didn't think to check my bag for the shiatload of vodka which I was then possessing underage on return to the US.
 
2013-02-04 03:08:29 AM

Weaver95: BravadoGT: Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?

wait - you aren't one of those people who actually believes cannabis is exactly the same as meth, are you?  because if you are, imma laugh at you and mock your lack of intelligence.


Your attempt at deflection is noted. He committed a crime, end of story.
 
2013-02-04 03:11:11 AM
Kervra  if you have ventrillo or steam Id be happy to talk to you despite the fact that its 3 am  Im free. Steam name is gbmannc I can get u a ventrillo server to to talk in if you wanna talk.  Hell I'll even call you over the phone. I've been where your are. It isn't fun. and no one wants to take the effort to see how bad you really feel.
 
2013-02-04 03:21:18 AM

Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.


Last year, Canada actually changed their "rehabilitation" standards and made it FAR easier for people with old convictions to travel to Canada.  You used to have to apply for an "individual rehabilitation" that required quite a bit of paperwork and cost at least $200 or get a "temporary resident permit" that could be even more costly.  Now, if you have just a single conviction that is over 10 years old, you can simply be "deemed rehabilitated" at the border (or ahead of time through the local consulate) with minimal fuss and no charge.

You are eligible to apply for deemed rehabilitation at a port of entry if:

you only had one conviction in total or committed only one crimeat least ten years have passed since you completed all sentences (payment of all fees, jail time completed, restitution paid,  etc.)the crime you committed is not considered a serious crime in Canada ANDthe crime did not involve any serious property damage, physical harm to any person, or any type of weapon.Much more logical rules than the old rules, and I would say the U.S. should reciprocate and not care about silly old convictions.
 
2013-02-04 03:26:25 AM
JadedRaverLA:

Let's try that again
:


You are eligible to apply for deemed rehabilitation at a port of entry if:

- you only had one conviction in total or committed only one crime
- at least ten years have passed since you completed all sentences (payment of all fees, jail time completed, restitution paid,  etc.)
- the crime you committed is not considered a serious crime in Canada AND
- the crime did not involve any serious property damage, physical harm to any person, or any type of weapon.
 
2013-02-04 03:40:06 AM

King Something: Pharmaceutical companies can't turn a profit if any shmuck with access to dirt, water and sunlight can grow his own cancer medicine


Marijuana does nothing to treat cancer.  It just makes you feel better about it.
 
2013-02-04 03:57:56 AM
5 deleted comments?  Obviously SOMEBODY loves me.
 
2013-02-04 03:59:05 AM
*
 
2013-02-04 03:59:48 AM
&
 
2013-02-04 04:00:31 AM
%
 
2013-02-04 05:36:26 AM
Customs people do this to compensate for their micro-dicks. Despicable creatures.
 
2013-02-04 06:00:58 AM
And for this same reason I doubt i will ever visit the US, or Canada either I get the impression. Although to be fair it was rather more than 2 grams.
 
2013-02-04 06:17:48 AM
"Put everyone on a list" they said. "It will help fight terrorism, keep guns in the right hands, and prevent voter fraud" they said. "One giant unified database of America's sins, for great efficiency!" they said. /Color me shocked that it comes back to bite people in the ass./and its always over trivial shiat.
 
2013-02-04 07:12:41 AM
how can you even ENJOY football under the effects of weed?

like u need alcohol
and u can't combine them both
or else u die of an overdose
cause it's just like meth
 
2013-02-04 07:38:52 AM
Sometimes the system works.
 
2013-02-04 07:49:17 AM

pciszek: King Something: Pharmaceutical companies can't turn a profit if any shmuck with access to dirt, water and sunlight can grow his own cancer medicine

Marijuana does nothing to treat cancer.  It just makes you feel better about it.


Are you sure about that?
 
2013-02-04 07:52:42 AM
2 grams? when im down to 2 grams I consider myself out of marijuana
 
2013-02-04 07:56:04 AM

pciszek: King Something: Pharmaceutical companies can't turn a profit if any shmuck with access to dirt, water and sunlight can grow his own cancer medicine

Marijuana does nothing to treat cancer.  It just makes you feel better about it.


There's been several studies showing hemp oil treats cancer, but all the potheads hear that and think smoking it makes them immune to cancer.
 
2013-02-04 08:03:22 AM

Moderator: 1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) National Suicide Prevention Hotline, if you are serious, please consider calling it.


I just thought you would like to know that your profile is boring... no whiskey, no beer, no tits... nothing and you call yourself a Fark Moderator... geeze.
 
2013-02-04 08:14:04 AM

Weaver95: BravadoGT: Can't Budweiser just find someone who's not a junkie?

wait - you aren't one of those people who actually believes cannabis is exactly the same as meth, are you?  because if you are, imma laugh at you and mock your lack of intelligence.


Believe we have figured out why you haven't found a new IT job in a year despite the low unemployment in that sector
 
2013-02-04 08:36:22 AM

Rueened: Your attempt at deflection is noted. He committed a crime, end of story.


That's not how the world works.
 
2013-02-04 08:55:03 AM

Tumunga: Bathia_Mapes: IamKaiserSoze!!!: Same but opposite thing happened to a friend of mine when he tried to enter Canada, but his marijuana charge was from '78. Time for both countries to knock this shiat off.

I concur.

I disagree. A criminal is a criminal.


Why can't we convince criminals to commit suicide for our personal entertainment and amusement?
 
2013-02-04 09:11:33 AM

kevra: doesnt matt mates, I called the number, farkin waste of time


If about to take action, please try the 1-800-784-2433 National Suicide Prevention Hotline.  At the very least, take note that enough people experince suicidal ideation that there's a farking national hotline.  It's much more common than most people think.

Or try the Take this Life Depression Forums instead. It's a raw forum by those suffering from it. Think fark.com but with others who've gone through what you're going though.
 
2013-02-04 09:26:18 AM
J. Frank Parnell:There's been several studies showing hemp oil treats cancer, but all the potheads hear that and think smoking it makes them immune to cancer.
Yeah I've heard people say similar things. Look, marijuana is fun mmkay? But it's not good for us, it doesn't make us cleverer, healthier or longer lived, it's just a small vice. In other news alcohol and tobacco aren't good for us either.
 
2013-02-04 09:37:18 AM

King Something: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

For possession of a naturally-occurring substance that's less toxic than purified water, more widespread than most other plant-life, with plenty of legitimate medical and industrial uses and with no side-effects except laziness, a case of the munchies and being kinda tired?

Of course not! Pharmaceutical companies can't turn a profit if any shmuck with access to dirt, water and sunlight can grow his own cancer medicine instead of spending hundreds or thousands of dollars per dose, nobody will buy newspapers printed on wood paper if they can read the news on hemp paper, and the coloreds will start playing jazz music and looking at white women.


Culerds?
 
2013-02-04 09:38:09 AM

NFA:


From the man that didn't have to
 
2013-02-04 10:03:53 AM

ethics-gradient: Yeah I've heard people say similar things. Look, marijuana is fun mmkay? But it's not good for us, it doesn't make us cleverer, healthier or longer lived, it's just a small vice.


It's just part of the cycle of addiction to think something makes you more clever or creative.

It really does help with chronic pain from spinal injuries, which i can attest to, but for every one person with legitimate pain there are 50 assclowns faking injuries for a medicinal license, which makes some doubt it.
 
2013-02-04 10:08:18 AM

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: Smeggy Smurf: Sleeping Monkey: A US citizen with a DUI can't go to Canada, so Canadians are safe from foreign beer drinkers and Americans are safe from foreign hippies. Imagine the anarchy if we didn't have these rules.

You can 5 years after the 1st conviction, pay the $500 bribe and kiss their ass.

I think it's $1000.  Or actually, it could only be $200, depending on how "serious" the Canucks determine your offense to be.  I suspect in practice most or all of them are the really "serious" variety that requires $1000 to demonstrate you've been properly rehabilitated.

/ nothing says "rehabbed" like cold, hard cash

Last I checked the $1000 bribe was for 2nd offenders along with a 10 year wait and some other absurdly expensive paperwork.

Yeah, I'm just going secondhand based on the word of a co-worker who ran into this a couple of years ago - doesn't affect me, so I never had to deal with it directly.


No worries.  I"m trying to remember back a couple years when a co-worker got his 2nd DUI.  A little research on what that meant on going to Canuckistan gave us all we needed to bust his balls for months.
 
2013-02-04 10:13:10 AM
is this border war tit-for-tat something new (newer?)
I have a reasonable amount of minor infractions, including DWI and possession, from my mispent youth..been to Canada a few times since without a problem, but planing a trip this Feb, am I going to be denied at the border? Travelling by car with friends and it would suck if we all had to turn around.
 
2013-02-04 10:22:06 AM
This goes both ways across the border. You can always check with the border patrol and see if you're clear. It sucks, and hopefully this will never happen to me for anything stupid.
 
2013-02-04 11:02:06 AM
WtF? I post a sarcastic comment and I trigger a suicide prevention notice from a Mod?!
 
2013-02-04 11:07:51 AM

theBigBigEye: WtF? I post a sarcastic comment and I trigger a suicide prevention notice from a Mod?!


Some unpleasantness went on earlier and it's automated. Nothing personal.
 
2013-02-04 11:10:56 AM

theBigBigEye: WtF? I post a sarcastic comment and I trigger a suicide prevention notice from a Mod?!


Remember, we value you almost as much as the liability you represent.
 
2013-02-04 11:14:32 AM

Yogimus: theBigBigEye: WtF? I post a sarcastic comment and I trigger a suicide prevention notice from a Mod?!

Remember, we value you almost as much as the liability you represent.


Dayum. Note to self: be careful with certain keywords when Farking.
 
2013-02-04 11:16:09 AM

RockofAges: untaken_name: RockofAges: Eventually all the cranks will shuffle from this mortal coil and common sense with regard to social issues may once again reign.

You mean like when the people who were young in the 1960s grew up and started running things? Money trumps common sense every single time.

I agree with your point, but I think it will be different this time as the anti-authoritarianism seems to be sticking as the "money" isn't there to pay off the young people of this country.


The private prison/law enforcement industry and the pharmaceutical industry are doing perfectly well.
 
2013-02-04 11:17:41 AM

GoodOmens: Funny the article mentions all of the Canadians denied going into the US for pointless old convictions but fails to mention all of the stupid things Canada denies entry for US residents.  Bias much?

/Canada started it and the US followed suit
//Still doesn't make it right


The two situations are completely different though. In order for them to be equally absurd, it would require that there are people out there who actually want to go to Canada.
 
2013-02-04 11:20:23 AM
See, The War on Drugs TMdoes work!
 
2013-02-04 11:33:41 AM
kevra. How's it going?
 
2013-02-04 12:22:29 PM
I for one am relieved that our drug laws are working as well as they are.  Keeping this criminal out of the US quite possibly saved thousands if not tens of thousands of lives.  Some of you might think that keeping him out for a crime that happened so long ago is unfair.  As the saying goes, "Once a pot-head always a pot-head."  Had we let him into the country, he would have not only been giving out pot cigarettes to each and every child he saw, he would have been raping and then eating them as well.

I don't think most of you really realize this, but this incident was a very narrow escape for the US and we should all be proud of our brave soldiers on the US-Canadian border keeping us safe.
 
2013-02-04 12:33:32 PM

petec: is this border war tit-for-tat something new (newer?)
I have a reasonable amount of minor infractions, including DWI and possession, from my mispent youth..been to Canada a few times since without a problem, but planing a trip this Feb, am I going to be denied at the border? Travelling by car with friends and it would suck if we all had to turn around.


Unless you've done that rehabilitation thing or had your records really, really sealed, it's a risk.  Each year more and more records get shared; it's possible that your convictions weren't being shared with whatever database Canada accesses in the past, but are now.

On the other hand, bringing it up(doing the rehab paperwork) is almost certainly going to get you into the system, and it might work out, might get you a permanent denial.
 
2013-02-04 02:33:42 PM

Elzar: If he'd stuck with Bud Lite instead of Bud Lit, he wouldn't be in this shiat...

/ fark borders - why can't we have a world with no borders?


We did before WWI
 
2013-02-04 02:40:18 PM
1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) National Suicide Prevention Hotline, if you are serious, please consider calling it.
 
2013-02-04 08:31:15 PM

Weaver95: fusillade762: Oh for f*ck's sake. Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

for hate's sake, we spit our last breath at thee....


+1
 
2013-02-04 11:20:26 PM

RockofAges: Haha. I want to agree with everything you say, and a large part of me does. I still hold out hope, though.


I agree. I always hope for the best, but plan for the worst. That way, I'm never disappointed.
 
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