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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Chicago police will no longer respond to 911 calls in person unless someone is needed to come mop up   (suntimes.com) divider line 17
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2013-02-03 07:40:24 PM  
5 votes:
The best thing to ever happen to Chicago was when it burned in 1871.
The worst thing to ever happen to Chicago is when it was rebuilt.

I hope it burns again and I hope that, this time, people have the good sense to let it remain a pile of ashes. A heap of cinders has infinitely more going for it than that shiathole.
Chicago, it's criminals, its corrupt cops and politicians, and the rest of the idiots who choose to call it home can rot there.
2013-02-03 10:01:55 PM  
4 votes:
What a nice blue city.  A preview of what is to come America.
2013-02-03 08:11:29 PM  
2 votes:
It looks like the specific change is this: Crime victims had the option of filing reports on the phone or they could insist on an in-person response and wait until a squad car was free. Now, they won't have that option. That's expected to more than double the number of case reports taken over the phone-to 151,000 a year - and free the equivalent of 44 officers a day for patrol and to respond to more serious crimes.

So basically people can't demand an officer show up for their burglary or property damage report because THEY don't want to file a phone report and want a cop to come by and listen to them biatch about how the neighbor kids are always so disrespectful and throw trash over the fence. Given that the article specifically references things like property damage reports, garage break-ins, bad checks and harassing phone calls, I'm willing to bet neighbor disputes have been taking up a lot of police time that they need for more serious crimes, and this is the most tactful way of dealing with it that they can figure out.
2013-02-03 08:03:03 PM  
2 votes:

fnordfocus: JSam21: Way to RTFA... they will still respond if there are injuries. Lots of police departments do this. When you don't have enough officers and a phone report will suffice, why rush people over there?

I read the article, just don't believe it.

CPD hasn't responded to most of these things in decades, but they feel the need to order an article up, so something's obviously changing.


For most normal, law-abiding citizens, being the victim of any crime is a BFD. Last week, a mean person smashed up my car in a hit-and-run accident. I was okay, so I didn't expect a police officer to be dispatched when I called the non-emergency number. But, one came out anyway. He was very nice. It wasn't necessary for a live human to take my statement in person, but it did make me feel better, like some person in big bad law enforcement cared about my well-being. It goes a long way to making people feel safe and respected in their communities.
2013-02-03 07:34:48 PM  
2 votes:
SpdrJay: 911 is a joke in Chitown!

Because when seconds matter, the cops are only minutes away.
2013-02-03 07:34:35 PM  
2 votes:
Let me predict -- fire and medical won't respond until the scene is cleared by Police, Police won't come, hundreds of extra people bleed out every week.

And they charge a few people for tampering with evidence when they drive themselves or their family to the hospital instead.
2013-02-03 07:32:47 PM  
2 votes:
It's nice to know that the crime rate is so high that no farks are being given.
2013-02-03 11:15:21 PM  
1 votes:

Loren: I've found their definitions don't always agree with mine, though. More than once I've called in on 311 over road hazards and had the call redirected to 911 even though it would be very unlikely for the situation to have ended up with anyone bleeding. I don't really think anyone was going to be seriously hurt by the street light pole lying in the road (I really wish I knew what happened to cause it to be laying there--the ground around it's anchor point showed no signs of a vehicle having plowed through it!) and it was many hours until darkness, yet they treated it as a 911 rather than 311.


What it is, is that nobody really knows WHO has the authority to handle the situation--so it goes to 911 by default because they figure "the cops will know how to handle it" which is why we're in this situation to start with. Is a road hazard a police emergency? No. Is it something you need to call the cops for at all, even on the non-emergency line? No, not really. You should call the DoT, because they're the ones who are eventually going to have to handle it...but if you call them, they don't have a line set up to handle such calls, so they'll refer you back to the cops, who do.

This is not an issue of the police being dicks and refusing to take calls, it's a communications breakdown coupled with a breakdown of authority as to who is supposed to handle what. The police don't need to be the ones to deal with street lights down in the street--but nobody knows who to call, so they take them by default. A cop doesn't really need to respond to a burglary call to file a report so your insurance company will pay on your homeowner's insurance (assuming the break-in happened six hours ago), but you need the report and there's nobody else who can file it, so he has to show up. The city utility company needs to respond to the former, and a public safety officer could handle the latter; but no one has really arranged things so that can be done. It would be a lot more cost- and time-effective; but inertia has prevented it so far.

And it would free cops up to catch genuine bad guys; and also make it easier to weed out dick cops who like to make easy arrests and goldbrick (since they couldn't hang out doing traffic stops and burglary reports); but then I'm not a city planner so nobody listens to me.
2013-02-03 09:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

NFA: It's always amusing to see the police knob gobblers defend the never ending incompetence, criminal behavior and outright corruption in police departments around the nation.

God forbid taxpayers expect a little service from the police departments which consume a huge portion of their tax dollars.  Police unions have argued that if we want good policing we have to pay cops better.  Many urban police make $100k and more.  Yet the incompetence has increased.


It's always amusing to see the societal dregs attack the officers that actually do their jobs etc etc

Happy now? We're balanced once more.
2013-02-03 08:17:31 PM  
1 votes:
Don't most major dispatch centers already do this?  Police have a non-emergency line for shiat like stolen bicycles and vandalized storefronts.  If you call 911 and someone isn't bleeding or about to be bleeding, they automatically just take down your information for future followup, once all the actual emergencies have been covered.
2013-02-03 07:59:48 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: AverageAmericanGuy: If it was clear just what an "emergency" entailed, many people would call the regular police number instead of 911.

I agree, but most people have no idea what the regular number is. I know I have no idea what number to dial.


Well, when PDs stopped putting the local number on their cruisers and put a "call 911" sticker on them, surprisingly, people complied...
2013-02-03 07:43:02 PM  
1 votes:

JSam21: Way to RTFA... they will still respond if there are injuries. Lots of police departments do this. When you don't have enough officers and a phone report will suffice, why rush people over there?


I read the article, just don't believe it.

CPD hasn't responded to most of these things in decades, but they feel the need to order an article up, so something's obviously changing.
2013-02-03 07:42:08 PM  
1 votes:
If someone reports the smell of weed from next door, though, they'll still dispatch a tactical team and screw shoot the pooch, right? Then they can write a ticket for possession of a small amount and get the revenue.
2013-02-03 07:40:32 PM  
1 votes:
If it was clear just what an "emergency" entailed, many people would call the regular police number instead of 911.
2013-02-03 07:38:46 PM  
1 votes:

fnordfocus: Let me predict -- fire and medical won't respond until the scene is cleared by Police, Police won't come, hundreds of extra people bleed out every week.

And they charge a few people for tampering with evidence when they drive themselves or their family to the hospital instead.


Way to RTFA... they will still respond if there are injuries. Lots of police departments do this. When you don't have enough officers and a phone report will suffice, why rush people over there?
2013-02-03 07:37:33 PM  
1 votes:
And now a fee to collect your police report for insurance... just to round it out.
2013-02-03 07:36:09 PM  
1 votes:
This is more reasonable then you'd expect, if you actually read the article.

911 is for emergencies.  If your garage was broken into when you were at work, that's not a 911 event.
 
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