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(The Raw Story)   Begun, the Republican civil war has: Super PAC dedicated to defeat Tea Party candidates, supported in part by Karl Rove, launched   (rawstory.com) divider line 344
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2013-02-03 04:31:03 PM
This isn't terribly surprising as Rove is a business man. His relationship with the Tea Party was strictly business. It's no longer a successful venture so they must be destroyed.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:29 PM
Zymugry's Law of Expanding Dynamics: once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is in a bigger can.

I didn't expect it to be Rove, but given that he's the one funded by the money men who ginned up the Tea Party in the first place - and their candidates to Congress are declining in numbers - they're gonna try to kill the monster they created. Should be a fun wake-up call for somebody (as much as it pains me, I hope the sane party retakes control).
 
2013-02-03 04:40:48 PM

Rindred: Zymugry's Law of Expanding Dynamics: once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is in a bigger can.

I didn't expect it to be Rove, but given that he's the one funded by the money men who ginned up the Tea Party in the first place - and their candidates to Congress are declining in numbers - they're gonna try to kill the monster they created. Should be a fun wake-up call for somebody (as much as it pains me, I hope the sane party retakes control).


Well he certainly does have a big can.
 
2013-02-03 04:41:13 PM
As both sects are shrinking due to death by way of old age it a will be quite entertaining watching for their death rattles.
 
2013-02-03 04:44:43 PM

2wolves: As both sects are shrinking due to death by way of old age it a will be quite entertaining watching for their death rattles.


Their death rattles in gerrymandered districts could easily destroy us all.
 
2013-02-03 04:49:35 PM
Doesn't surprise me.  I have a feeling that if a RAND PAUL type teabagger runs against Mitch "La Tortuga" McConnell in the GOP primary here in KY, he'd lose. And that might put this seat in play, even in a state this red.  It's a move to protect some of their most valuable members.
 
2013-02-03 04:55:41 PM

Krymson Tyde: Rindred: Zymugry's Law of Expanding Dynamics: once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is in a bigger can.

I didn't expect it to be Rove, but given that he's the one funded by the money men who ginned up the Tea Party in the first place - and their candidates to Congress are declining in numbers - they're gonna try to kill the monster they created. Should be a fun wake-up call for somebody (as much as it pains me, I hope the sane party retakes control).

Well he certainly does have a big can.

Good one there.

And may I add it's about damn time the GOP pulled their head out. I'm a lib, but I do like reasonable people in office even if they disagree with me. While the TBrs have some unintentional humor value, they scare the bejezzus out of me..

 
2013-02-03 05:02:38 PM
Good.

Even though I don't really agree with conservatives on most things, the Tea Party element is flushing our entire system down the tubes with their obstructionism. They are the enemy of both Republicans and Democrats.
 
2013-02-03 05:03:22 PM
I'm ok with this.
 
2013-02-03 05:03:45 PM

I can't wait to hear the derp about how this is Obama's fault.

Oh, wait...it is!


THANKS OBAMA!!


/seriously, thank you
 
2013-02-03 05:08:50 PM

GAT_00: 2wolves: As both sects are shrinking due to death by way of old age it a will be quite entertaining watching for their death rattles.

Their death rattles in gerrymandered districts could easily destroy us all.


I "could" be the next Gary Cooper.

Stop fear mongering.
 
2013-02-03 05:13:18 PM

2wolves: GAT_00: 2wolves: As both sects are shrinking due to death by way of old age it a will be quite entertaining watching for their death rattles.

Their death rattles in gerrymandered districts could easily destroy us all.

I "could" be the next Gary Cooper.

Stop fear mongering.


Yeah.  We need to keep our attention on the real threats to America.  Like Obama bringing the Muslim Brotherhood into the White House.
 
2013-02-03 05:20:05 PM
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2013-02-03 05:32:59 PM
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Problem?
 
2013-02-03 05:37:28 PM
Let me know when a PAC is dedicated to defeat the Religious Right...
 
2013-02-03 05:38:37 PM

hubiestubert: Let me know when a PAC is dedicated to defeat the Religious Right...


Wait, that's not the Tea Party?
 
2013-02-03 05:42:33 PM

2wolves: GAT_00: 2wolves: As both sects are shrinking due to death by way of old age it a will be quite entertaining watching for their death rattles.

Their death rattles in gerrymandered districts could easily destroy us all.


I "could" be the next Gary Cooper.


Stop fear mongering.

it's not. Gerrymandering has always been against the will of the people, no matter who does it. Democratic party actually had the most votes in congress, but thanks to gerrymandering, was under represented.  And now that several states are attempting to rig thr presidential race that way.


, we are in trouble.

 
2013-02-03 05:45:06 PM

cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: Let me know when a PAC is dedicated to defeat the Religious Right...

Wait, that's not the Tea Party?


Nope. Evangelicals != Tea Party. There's plenty of overlap there, but it's not part of their platform.
 
2013-02-03 05:45:48 PM
Begun? Oh, this fight may have been taken up a notch, but its going on for awhile.
 
2013-02-03 05:48:06 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345][25.media.tumblr.com image 500x288]


What the heck is that second picture? Looks like something from the Twilight Zone.
 
2013-02-03 05:48:09 PM

make me some tea: cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: Let me know when a PAC is dedicated to defeat the Religious Right...

Wait, that's not the Tea Party?

Nope. Evangelicals != Tea Party. There's plenty of overlap there, but it's not part of their platform.


I think it kind of is. Anti-abortion, anti-gay rights. Yeah, sounds pretty religiousy to me.
 
2013-02-03 05:53:30 PM
Imokwiththis
 
2013-02-03 06:11:34 PM
I never get tried of posting this cartoon.

www.akawilliam.com
 
2013-02-03 06:21:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I think it kind of is. Anti-abortion, anti-gay rights. Yeah, sounds pretty religiousy to me.


That shows there is overlap in social conservatism, but they diverge as well. The Tea Party is dominated by Paleoconservative types, whereas the Evangelical element in the Republican caucus tends more towards Neoconservatism. That's also where Karl Rove and Krauhammer are--they aren't religious people but they are Neocons. The Baggers are more Dick Armey types. Despite the desire of many to lump Rove in with the TeaBaggers, he wasn't one of them--in fact their proto-organizational paleoconservative elements defeated the Rove/Bush initiative on immigration back in the day and Rove has not forgotten that.
 
2013-02-03 06:22:13 PM

simplicimus: Fark Rye For Many Whores: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345][25.media.tumblr.com image 500x288]

What the heck is that second picture? Looks like something from the Twilight Zone.


http://zygoma.tumblr.com/post/13830267468/ponury-extraordinary-peopl e- the-girls-with-too
 
2013-02-03 06:52:36 PM
Republicans spending money to defeat Republicans? Cool.
 
2013-02-03 07:00:19 PM
Good, good!

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2013-02-03 07:17:12 PM

fusillade762: I never get tried of posting this cartoon.

[www.akawilliam.com image 600x439]


I never get tired of seeing it.
 
2013-02-03 07:40:25 PM
hmm.  interesting.  I look forward to watching this internal civil war with great interest.
 
2013-02-03 07:46:20 PM
Where's the Koch Brother's money going in this fight?
 
2013-02-03 07:49:34 PM

simplicimus: Where's the Koch Brother's money going in this fight?


Rove.
 
2013-02-03 08:03:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: make me some tea: cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: Let me know when a PAC is dedicated to defeat the Religious Right...

Wait, that's not the Tea Party?

Nope. Evangelicals != Tea Party. There's plenty of overlap there, but it's not part of their platform.

I think it kind of is. Anti-abortion, anti-gay rights. Yeah, sounds pretty religiousy to me.


Judeo-Christian values are part of the platform, but officially they don't support a theocracy. Mind you, lots of people who would love to elect Jesus as President are Tea Partiers, so I understand where it comes from.

Perhaps anecdotal, but my folks are avid Tea Party people and they aren't very religious. They go to church on Easter and Christmas and don't pray at meals or anything. They're also pro-choice as far as I know, but it's not a big issue to them either way.
 
2013-02-03 08:28:17 PM

Weaver95: hmm.  interesting.  I look forward to watching this internal civil war with great interest.


The winner will emerge stronger than ever and free from doubt.
 
2013-02-03 08:29:44 PM
Karl rove, you magnificent bastard.

Wait, WTF did I just type?

My god the gop is all farked up
 
2013-02-03 08:34:53 PM

Rindred: Zymugry's Law of Expanding Dynamics: once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is in a bigger can.

I didn't expect it to be Rove, but given that he's the one funded by the money men who ginned up the Tea Party in the first place - and their candidates to Congress are declining in numbers - they're gonna try to kill the monster they created. Should be a fun wake-up call for somebody (as much as it pains me, I hope the sane party retakes control).


I don;t. I hope the Teabaggers crush the old-school Republicans. Because that will just hasten the GOP's demise, and the GOP NEEDS to go away before this country can make any real progress.

The non-Tea Party portion of the GOP is just as worthlessly corrupt and evil, but they're at least quieter about it.
 
2013-02-03 08:35:09 PM

Gyrfalcon: Weaver95: hmm.  interesting.  I look forward to watching this internal civil war with great interest.

The winner will emerge stronger than ever and free from doubt.


If the 'baggers aren't happy, they might just split off and make a new party (I put $50 on "The Patriot Party").  They're just derpy enough to do it.

If that happens, get ready for many years of a Democratic Senate and White House.
 
2013-02-03 08:36:02 PM
So now the Republicans are a splinter group trying to usurp power from their base? AM radio will be fun tomorrow.
 
2013-02-03 08:36:49 PM

quickdraw: simplicimus: Where's the Koch Brother's money going in this fight?

Rove.


 Excellent.
 
2013-02-03 08:40:20 PM
The rich white people were upset that the poor white trash defied them this cycle. They just can't abide that horsesh*t going on.

I'm shocked their trusting the barely literate did not work out for them.

Inherited wealth is stupid money. Now that they've woken up, I'm sure they'll make it much more entertaining.
 
2013-02-03 08:41:58 PM

Gyrfalcon: Weaver95: hmm.  interesting.  I look forward to watching this internal civil war with great interest.

The winner will emerge stronger than ever and free from doubt.


images1.wikia.nocookie.net

What do you want?
 
2013-02-03 08:43:38 PM
fta The group favors William F. Buckley's dictum to nominate "the most conservative candidate in the primary who can win the general election,"

So they're Obama supporters?
 
2013-02-03 08:45:17 PM

Notabunny: fta The group favors William F. Buckley's dictum to nominate "the most conservative candidate in the primary who can win the general election,"

So they're Obama supporters?


I'm just glad I'm not the only one who sees it. The very definition of moderate.

I don't even think Clinton did it this well, to be honest.
 
2013-02-03 08:45:37 PM
well that escalated quickly
 
2013-02-03 08:45:51 PM

OnceMoreWithFeeling: Krymson Tyde: Rindred: Zymugry's Law of Expanding Dynamics: once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is in a bigger can.

I didn't expect it to be Rove, but given that he's the one funded by the money men who ginned up the Tea Party in the first place - and their candidates to Congress are declining in numbers - they're gonna try to kill the monster they created. Should be a fun wake-up call for somebody (as much as it pains me, I hope the sane party retakes control).

Well he certainly does have a big can.

Good one there.

And may I add it's about damn time the GOP pulled their head out. I'm a lib, but I do like reasonable people in office even if they disagree with me. While the TBrs have some unintentional humor value, they scare the bejezzus out of me..

sensibleparty.org


The current state of the GOP reminds me of the Democratic party during the 80's where they completely lost touch with the pulse of the country and were expected to disappear into oblivion (as pictured about). What save the Democrats then was a moderate reform movement: The Democratic Leadership Council, founded in 1985, and led by a relative unknown southern governor named Bill Clinton. However, this movement wasn't accepted by the old-school as it was "too conservative": a civil war broke out in the Democrat Party.

Before counting the Republicans out, expect to see history repeat itself. We're just seeing the opening shots in a civil war in the GOP. You can expect a wave of "extreme moderates" gaining power and slugging it out with the dogmatic wing of the party.
 
2013-02-03 08:48:50 PM
ScreamingHangover:

Before counting the Republicans out, expect to see history repeat itself. We're just seeing the opening shots in a civil war in the GOP. You can expect a wave of "extreme moderates" gaining power and slugging it out with the dogmatic wing of the party.

my money is on the religious fanatics winning this little war.
 
2013-02-03 08:49:57 PM

ScreamingHangover: Before counting the Republicans out, expect to see history repeat itself. We're just seeing the opening shots in a civil war in the GOP. You can expect a wave of "extreme moderates" gaining power and slugging it out with the dogmatic wing of the party.


Word.
 
2013-02-03 08:53:39 PM
Given Rove's recent track record I think the Tea Baggers are probably doing cartwheels over this news.
 
2013-02-03 08:58:31 PM

Weaver95: ScreamingHangover:

Before counting the Republicans out, expect to see history repeat itself. We're just seeing the opening shots in a civil war in the GOP. You can expect a wave of "extreme moderates" gaining power and slugging it out with the dogmatic wing of the party.

my money is on the religious fanatics winning this little war.


You're right. True believers, ideologues and extremists aren't motivated or dissuaded by something as transient as campaign financing. Neither are their constituents. On the other hand, this soon-to-be-created animal, the Republican Moderate (TM), exists for no other reason than to attract campaign financing. Guess which group has the dedication to fight to the end.
 
2013-02-03 09:00:59 PM

Somacandra: The Tea Party is dominated by Paleoconservative types, whereas the Evangelical element in the Republican caucus tends more towards Neoconservatism


The Tea Party is more religious than the Religious Values voters in the GOP.

Weaver95: What do you want?


I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike - as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave ... like this.

Can your associates arrange this for me, Mr. Morden
Rove?
 
2013-02-03 09:01:07 PM

Notabunny: Weaver95: ScreamingHangover:

Before counting the Republicans out, expect to see history repeat itself. We're just seeing the opening shots in a civil war in the GOP. You can expect a wave of "extreme moderates" gaining power and slugging it out with the dogmatic wing of the party.

my money is on the religious fanatics winning this little war.

You're right. True believers, ideologues and extremists aren't motivated or dissuaded by something as transient as campaign financing. Neither are their constituents. On the other hand, this soon-to-be-created animal, the Republican Moderate (TM), exists for no other reason than to attract campaign financing. Guess which group has the dedication to fight to the end.


the GOP and it's media engine have spent a decade or so purging the party of moderates.  they've trained their people to HATE moderates, that compromise is for the weak.  that you stay strong by making big demands and never giving an inch.  I don't know where these mythical 'GOP moderates' are going to come from 'cause they all got kicked out a long time ago.
 
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