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(Slate)   Slate columnist slams a Conservative WND "author" who just released a twelve-step book on "How to Choose a Husband," a book that tells women the important skills are "be nice, cook, have sex, and be subservient"   (slate.com) divider line 306
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2013-02-03 12:54:02 PM  
Chapter 5:  Sandwich Making
 
2013-02-03 01:02:14 PM  
But she's correct in her assessment of war against men.  Besides, what's so terrible about being nice, cooking, and having sex?  Hell, except for the "nice" part, it describes the perfect date for FARK.
 
2013-02-03 01:34:39 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Hell, except for the "nice" part and the "sex" part, it describes the perfect date for FARK.


Fixed to better conform with most farkers' reality.

I don't give a shiat about subservient. Take that part out and add more sex.
 
2013-02-03 01:35:46 PM  
My Wife's grandmother gave us a book like this after we got married, except it working God into the advice somehow, we haven't read it.
 
2013-02-03 02:25:20 PM  

Spanky McStupid: But she's correct in her assessment of war against men


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2013-02-03 02:37:00 PM  
There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.  I enjoy all of those things.  That doesn't mean that's all I'm allowed or supposed to do, though.  As for being subservient......fark that noise.  I'm not subservient to my boyfriend and he's not subservient to me.  We're grown adults.

I'm not the least-bit surprised that some barking-at-the-moon simpleton from WND wrote this book.  They're longing for a return to the Eisenhower era, when women and minorities knew their place in the world.
 
2013-02-03 02:39:06 PM  
One Federal agency recently presented its employees with a slide show on proper business dress and helpfully pointed out that women should wear makeup so they would look more attractive. I've obviously been sent to a lot more HR classes than they have.

I think the Good Old Days crowd would love to return to the Mad Men era.
 
2013-02-03 02:42:08 PM  
While I'm never going to agree with a WND article, I was once on the receiving end of "Be mean & bossy & no sex," and I am happy to report that this strategy did work out for that particular woman.
 
2013-02-03 02:52:33 PM  
Women are supposed to prance around in heels.
 
2013-02-03 02:54:12 PM  

edmo: One Federal agency recently presented its employees with a slide show on proper business dress and helpfully pointed out that women should wear makeup so they would look more attractive. I've obviously been sent to a lot more HR classes than they have.

I think the Good Old Days crowd would love to return to the Mad Men era.


I wouldn't mind dressing like they did in the Mad Men era; I love that silhouette and aesthetic, but that's as far as I'd go.  I'd alternate between dressing like Peggy and dressing like Joan.
 
2013-02-03 02:54:33 PM  

Coco LaFemme: There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.


Those are all positive things. If he likes porn, it also helps to rub his balls and talk dirty to him while he watches it. Learning a few favorite ingredients for dishes is nice, and make sure there's an equitable division of labor overall in the household.
 
2013-02-03 03:17:00 PM  
How soon until we eliminate gender roles entirely?
 
2013-02-03 03:26:15 PM  

Kyosuke: How soon until we eliminate gender roles entirely?


Like about a dozen other problems, the first step to the solution will be when the Baby Boomers die.
 
2013-02-03 03:32:58 PM  

Kyosuke: How soon until we eliminate gender roles entirely?


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2013-02-03 03:33:02 PM  

GAT_00: Kyosuke: How soon until we eliminate gender roles entirely?

Like about a dozen other problems, the first step to the solution will be when the Baby Boomers die.


It's obvious WE need to start a war somewhere inhospitable and get all drafty on your ass, Junior
 
2013-02-03 03:41:09 PM  

Bladel: While I'm never going to agree with a WND article, I was once on the receiving end of "Be mean & bossy & no sex," and I am happy to report that this strategy did work out for that particular woman.


Same here.

She thought I was committed and too much in love.  I called her on it and she more or less said that it was time for me to know who she really is.  She thought I was bluffing when I said I wanted out and got meaner.

One of the last straws was a Valentine's Day dinner out.  She lit into me and went through a list of personal criticisms for about five minutes and loud enough for everyone else to hear.  And they did.  I sat there quietly thinking about the best way to dump her.

The boot was given about 24 hours later and I cut all contact.  According to mutual friends, she was a wreck and "couldn't understand where it went wrong."
 
2013-02-03 04:00:38 PM  

Coco LaFemme: There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.  I enjoy all of those things.


I enjoy being nice and cooking.  I haven't yet tried having sex with your man, but since you recommend it...
 
2013-02-03 04:08:37 PM  

Mentat: Chapter 5:  Sandwich Making


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2013-02-03 04:13:23 PM  

FloydA: Coco LaFemme: There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.  I enjoy all of those things.

I enjoy being nice and cooking.  I haven't yet tried having sex with your man, but since you recommend it...


LOL.  He's not going to be very receptive to that.
 
2013-02-03 04:17:52 PM  
be nice, cook, have sex, and be subservient
 
2013-02-03 04:18:51 PM  
Derp...

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2013-02-03 04:19:19 PM  
One partisan hack shiats all over another partisan hack. Quick, subby, to the headline!
 
2013-02-03 04:23:33 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Mentat: Chapter 5:  Sandwich Making


You're so hungry when she's away?
 
2013-02-03 04:23:42 PM  
This wasn't Caitlin Flanagan again, was it? Oh, Venker. Nice quote:

She recently lamented to New York magazine that women no longer "go to college to find a husband; you go to find your own single life and your career."

Fark that noise. I married my wife not because she went to college to get her MRS, I married her because she was a PhD-candidate molecular biologist with a career in science.
 
2013-02-03 04:25:40 PM  
Sh*t, I'd settle for 2 out of 4 from today's women.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:29 PM  
I'd be happy to be those things once all men who are looking to marry become strong, competent, and even-tempered.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.  I enjoy all of those things.  That doesn't mean that's all I'm allowed or supposed to do, though.  As for being subservient......fark that noise.  I'm not subservient to my boyfriend and he's not subservient to me.  We're grown adults.

I'm not the least-bit surprised that some barking-at-the-moon simpleton from WND wrote this book.  They're longing for a return to the Eisenhower era, when women and minorities knew their place in the world.


They long for BDSM. Let's be honest, most of what they describe is just a D\s relationship without the kinky sex (and 'domestic discipline' seems to be their version of that). Which would be fine, if they actually admitted that and used the 'safe, sane, and consensual' motto. Since they aren't, they're gonna have problems.

/I'd probably be a psychotic housewife too if I were in a permanent sub relationship when I didn't have a submissive personality.
 
2013-02-03 04:29:15 PM  
These are the same people who think Muslims hate us for our "freedoms."
 
2013-02-03 04:30:46 PM  
speaking as a male, theres nothing I hate more than a nice woman who cooks and has sex with me.
 
2013-02-03 04:32:01 PM  
 
2013-02-03 04:32:16 PM  
I should write a book on how to have a successful relationship. I'll call it "Treat your significant other like a farking person, not like an indentured servant, porcelain doll, or the result of a business transaction."

/Still single.
 
2013-02-03 04:33:15 PM  
I dont see a problem.  "How to Chose a Husband" seems like a practical book with good advice for any single chick.
 
2013-02-03 04:33:26 PM  

theorellior: This wasn't Caitlin Flanagan again, was it? Oh, Venker. Nice quote:

She recently lamented to New York magazine that women no longer "go to college to find a husband; you go to find your own single life and your career."

Fark that noise. I married my wife not because she went to college to get her MRS, I married her because she was a PhD-candidate molecular biologist with a career in science.


When telling her this, don't forget to also say "and because I love you".
 
2013-02-03 04:34:31 PM  

PsiChick: /I'd probably be a psychotic housewife too if I were in a permanent sub relationship when I didn't have a submissive personality.


I gotta FB friend from back in college, a trained lawyer, who became a stay-at-home mother so her husband could start up a company reselling electricity to their fellow Texans. I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea. Her FB pages basically describe the arc of a capable woman who's being slowly driven bugfark by dealing with small children all day. I try to help by puncturing her more Teatardish posts with snark.
 
2013-02-03 04:34:37 PM  

Bladel: While I'm never going to agree with a WND article, I was once on the receiving end of "Be mean & bossy & no sex," and I am happy to report that this strategy did work out for that particular woman.


True enough, but the author fails when it suggests that would be just fine-and-dandy if the man was in control.  Mean + Bossy + Withholding Sex = Unhealthy Relationship, regardless of whether it's the man or the woman who is acting that way.  Unless you're into that sort of thing, of course (NTTAWWT), but even then, that probably disqualifies the "no sex" part of the equation.
 
2013-02-03 04:35:00 PM  
Here's a fascinating aspect of human nature.  We all have different personalities, and differing advice will work for different people.  Many women are subservient/docile, and many men are typical alpha males.  That is not to say ALL women should be docile, but in an age where we teach ALL women to be "strong/assertive" because of some moral belief, the opposite deserves as much airtime, as it were.

There is no given stereo type that any given person has to fit into.  If you are the type of person who's having troubles in a relationship, it may be wise to try something different.
 
2013-02-03 04:35:03 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I'm not the least-bit surprised that some barking-at-the-moon simpleton from WND wrote this book.  They're longing for a return to the Eisenhower era, when women and minorities knew their place in the world.


And the problem with that is.....?
 
2013-02-03 04:35:37 PM  

Hebalo: When telling her this, don't forget to also say "and because I love you".


Hahahaha, yes, indeed. My point, of course, is that I wouldn't have fallen in love with a bubblehead looking to get her MRS.
 
2013-02-03 04:36:06 PM  
Sadly Tea Party Community is down so I can't post about this via my troll account.
 
2013-02-03 04:37:05 PM  

L.D. Ablo: Bladel: While I'm never going to agree with a WND article, I was once on the receiving end of "Be mean & bossy & no sex," and I am happy to report that this strategy did work out for that particular woman.

Same here.

She thought I was committed and too much in love.  I called her on it and she more or less said that it was time for me to know who she really is.  She thought I was bluffing when I said I wanted out and got meaner.

One of the last straws was a Valentine's Day dinner out.  She lit into me and went through a list of personal criticisms for about five minutes and loud enough for everyone else to hear.  And they did.  I sat there quietly thinking about the best way to dump her.

The boot was given about 24 hours later and I cut all contact.  According to mutual friends, she was a wreck and "couldn't understand where it went wrong."


She was trying to help you damnit!!! Why didn't you appreciate her efforts to help you be a better person!!!!  God you men are pathetic!!!!
 
2013-02-03 04:37:22 PM  
There isn't nearly as much derp in this thread as I was expecting.

I'd say "yay FARK" but I think I overbought on popcorn.
 
2013-02-03 04:37:33 PM  
This thread makes me want a manwhich

/Have ground beef
//Don't have any ketchup
///:(
 
2013-02-03 04:37:44 PM  
Why does Slate want to sabotage my happiness and poison the minds of the fragile, easily influenced gender?
 
2013-02-03 04:38:38 PM  
...As a card-carrying conservative who is married to a smart, strong and hot liberal woman, please let me apologize for this book.  We're not all like that, really,.
 
2013-02-03 04:38:44 PM  
Sadly Tea Party Community is down so I can't post about this via my troll account.

What percentage of users on there do you figure are trolls?  I bet it's a big ass number.
 
2013-02-03 04:38:46 PM  

FloydA: Coco LaFemme: There's nothing wrong with being nice, having sex with your man, and knowing how to cook.  I enjoy all of those things.

I enjoy being nice and cooking.  I haven't yet tried having sex with your man, but since you recommend it...


I didn't know he was Drewish
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2013-02-03 04:39:41 PM  

Bloody William: I should write a book on how to have a successful relationship. I'll call it "Treat your significant other like a farking person, not like an indentured servant, porcelain doll, or the result of a business transaction."

/Still single.


You're basically right. I would add have sex often, don't be afraid to act stupid with one another, and don't be afraid to apologize when you're wrong.
 
2013-02-03 04:39:57 PM  
Thanks for giving that WND farktard free advertising, Slate.
 
2013-02-03 04:40:31 PM  

theorellior: PsiChick: /I'd probably be a psychotic housewife too if I were in a permanent sub relationship when I didn't have a submissive personality.

I gotta FB friend from back in college, a trained lawyer, who became a stay-at-home mother so her husband could start up a company reselling electricity to their fellow Texans. I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea. Her FB pages basically describe the arc of a capable woman who's being slowly driven bugfark by dealing with small children all day. I try to help by puncturing her more Teatardish posts with snark.


Not being a business owner I could hardly understand what is needed to get a business started but wouldn't it have made more sense for her to be working while he was trying to get his business going so they could have that income as a cushion?
 
2013-02-03 04:40:31 PM  
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