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2013-02-03 12:26:30 PM
Blackhawk Down
 
2013-02-03 12:43:31 PM
If Christopher Nolan did a gritty reimagining of Paul Blart: Mall Cop...
 
2013-02-03 12:45:27 PM
Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.  I'm surprised the guy at the end didn't knock his block off.  Curious that the video went black when he was confronted by another man.
 
2013-02-03 12:48:02 PM
Sounds like a good time to trot out the legend of Gecko45
 
2013-02-03 01:01:10 PM
SHE CAN YELL!!  SHE CAN YELL!!  SHE CAN YELL!!
 
2013-02-03 01:05:26 PM
 
2013-02-03 01:19:20 PM
"Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids. "

Those kids were as poorly behaved as the mother who didn't have enough sense to watch over her kids instead of trying to look tough by abusing a rent a cop. If she felt she was in the right, she could have easily called the cops herself. Instead she just wanted to make a scene. Maybe her kids will learn not to act like an idiot in public.

I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.
 
2013-02-03 01:24:44 PM
Eh? Didn't know the filter includes one who nags.  Oh well.
 
2013-02-03 01:30:14 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.


Yeah, you're right.  He should have tased the kids first.
 
2013-02-03 01:44:10 PM
BACK IT UP!
 
2013-02-03 02:20:27 PM

skinink: I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.


Same thing here...except I didn't feel bad.
 
2013-02-03 02:23:20 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


"The slap-a-biatch coalition" comedy gold Jerry.....comedy gold.
 
2013-02-03 02:25:01 PM

PacManDreaming: skinink: I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.

Same thing here...except I didn't feel bad.

 
2013-02-03 02:32:11 PM
I give God 10%, why should she get 20000%?
 
2013-02-03 02:49:49 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


That is farking hilarious.  The Slap-a-Biatch Coalition.  Ha!  It's a revolution!
 
2013-02-03 03:11:02 PM
Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization.
 
2013-02-03 03:12:49 PM

Lor M. Ipsum: BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.

Yeah, you're right.  He should have tased the kids first.


Set tasers to fun
 
2013-02-03 03:17:26 PM

GWSuperfan: Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization  extermintation.


FTFY.
 
2013-02-03 03:20:17 PM
Not News on Reddit last week: Abusive woman refuses to leave local mall. News: Overzealous security guard tasers her, catching it all on video. Fark: Gets a $20,000 tip from fans on the internet for itleft in the dust once again by Reddit

FTFY, Subtard
 
2013-02-03 03:21:20 PM
Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.
 
2013-02-03 03:21:34 PM
'Don't yell at my motherf***ing kids! You'll get beat!'


Classy.
 
2013-02-03 03:21:39 PM
I think he did exactly the right thing. I just wish he'd kept the voltage on til she pissed herself.
"Consequences" seems to be a word people have forgotten.
 
2013-02-03 03:22:51 PM

GWSuperfan: Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization.


www.loritironpandit.com

Approves.
 
2013-02-03 03:23:06 PM
Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her
 
2013-02-03 03:24:15 PM

Awesome T-Shirt: Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.


That man does not get paid enough.

Maybe I'd do that job if you gave me infinite ammo and a license to kill.
 
2013-02-03 03:25:25 PM
Is it wrong to love videos of people being tasered?
 
2013-02-03 03:26:24 PM

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Not News on Reddit last week: Abusive woman refuses to leave local mall. News: Overzealous security guard tasers her, catching it all on video. Fark: Gets a $20,000 tip from fans on the internet for itleft in the dust once again by Reddit

FTFY, Subtard


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2013-02-03 03:26:42 PM

skinink: I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.


I also felt bad for laughing each of the three times I watched it.

I'm not being snarky, either. I really did. I more feel bad for those children. They've got no shot because mommy's an idiot.
 
2013-02-03 03:28:25 PM

GWSuperfan: Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization.


Just watching some of that footage made my blood pressure go up. Kudos to the security guard, because I am not capable ( bad-tempered, not tolerant) of doing his job...
 
2013-02-03 03:28:49 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: If Christopher Nolan did a gritty reimagining of Paul Blart: Mall Cop...


hes the security guard the mall deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
 
2013-02-03 03:28:54 PM
Forget the taser, dude should've shot her to death.
 
2013-02-03 03:28:59 PM
Useless him telling her to back it up. If she did back it up, maybe she wouldn't have all those rugrats.
 
2013-02-03 03:30:58 PM

skinink: I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.


Down goes Frazier!  Down goes Frazier!   Down goes Frazier!
 
2013-02-03 03:31:09 PM

Red Shirt Blues: Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.

"The slap-a-biatch coalition" comedy gold Jerry.....comedy gold.


Yup.
 
2013-02-03 03:32:56 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-03 03:33:22 PM
I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?
 
2013-02-03 03:33:29 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


"...Electricity will change your life..."

Wow

/That is one incoherent drunken rant
 
2013-02-03 03:33:49 PM
'Don't yell at my motherf***ing kids! You'll get beat!'

Priceless.  Reminds me of an incident I had a couple months ago at a McDonald's.  I was eating lunch and at the table behind me was a woman and her small child.  The woman was on her cell phone, lacing her conversation with a steady supply of profanity.  At one point I burped, out loud.  It was one of those unexpected burps that suddenly pop up and even though I did cover my mouth, it was still audible.  I quickly said, "Excuse me" to the woman, who had heard it.  She then starts yelling at me for being rude in front of her daughter!  And, of course, she is using profanity while yelling at me!   Sadly, I was not surprised in the least bit by her behavior.
 
2013-02-03 03:34:08 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids


You must not have watched the same video that I did.
 
2013-02-03 03:34:55 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


pawsru.org
 
2013-02-03 03:34:58 PM
I saw this on an urban media site yesterday.  I laughed and then cried.  It was awful to see someone act like that, and even worse, her children copied her ridiculous antics.  I was happy to see her get tased.  Regardless of why she was kicked out of the mall, she was warned over and over and the mall cop was more than patient with her.  Once she put her hands on him, he was justified in tasing her.  I wish he would have tased the boyfriend too.  The security guard showed admirable restraint. She gives black women a bad name.

/There, I said it.
 
2013-02-03 03:35:09 PM
i.imgur.com

"We have a new directive from M.A.F. on this. In the future,
in place of "tasing," substitute the phrase "forced planking."
 
2013-02-03 03:35:24 PM

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Not News on Reddit last week: Abusive woman refuses to leave local mall. News: Overzealous security guard tasers her, catching it all on video. Fark: Gets a $20,000 tip from fans on the internet for itleft in the dust once again by Reddit

FTFY, Subtard


I already saw this comment on another website, with their name in place of FARK. I'm afraid that you're not allowed to make this comment because I saw it elsewhere. Please turn in your keyboard at your earliest convenience.
 
2013-02-03 03:35:59 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult assault him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


FTFY
 
2013-02-03 03:36:15 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?  Either way, she'd moved from words to physical attack and went from public space to private space in the process.
 
2013-02-03 03:37:11 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.  I'm surprised the guy at the end didn't knock his block off.  Curious that the video went black when he was confronted by another man.


She was attacking him, and doing so in front of her children. She seemed to be encouraging her children to disrespect him, too. She got what was coming to her.
 
2013-02-03 03:38:11 PM
Every piece of shiat in that video should be shot in the head. The "mother" and her pimp. The kids are young enough where they can be saved.
 
2013-02-03 03:38:29 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him.


They don't. He does have the right to tase people who act insane and then start punching him in the head, though.
 
2013-02-03 03:38:40 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


You're officially an idiot.
 
2013-02-03 03:39:04 PM

you are a puppet: <i>One Youtube viewer simply writes: 'Why do those attractive and successful African-Americans keep nagging him?
</i>

lol...


i'm no tagger
 
2013-02-03 03:39:04 PM
Direct link to Youtube video.
This clip is about 5 minutes long and provides more than enough "context" for those who question whether or not she deserved it.
 
2013-02-03 03:39:12 PM
That looks like the most miserable mall of all time.
 
2013-02-03 03:39:40 PM
If you can curse and fight in front of your kids, you can be tased in front of your kids.
 
2013-02-03 03:39:50 PM

jtown: orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?

Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?  Either way, she'd moved from words to physical attack and went from public space to private space in the process.


If I throw a rock at you it's assault.

If I throw a rock at you and it hits you, it's assault and battery.
 
2013-02-03 03:39:55 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


First five minutes were good, then he started going downhill as he ran out of points to make.
 
2013-02-03 03:40:16 PM

Awesome T-Shirt: Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.


I saw the picture in the article and that guy looks as well geared as a SWAT member. Wtf kind of place do you put a mall where you have to have a guy in tactical gear guarding it? If its that bad they should shut the farker down. Also, I did chuckle when that woman got dropped. Her kids have little chance of becoming productive members of society if that is what is raising them.
 
2013-02-03 03:41:24 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.  I'm surprised the guy at the end didn't knock his block off.  Curious that the video went black when he was confronted by another man.


What should he have done? The lady was swinging.
 
2013-02-03 03:41:59 PM

jtown: Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?


I'm still amazed. Maybe it makes sense in a country where shooting people is in general OK. Over here he would be locked up for a good long time just for carrying a taser.
 
2013-02-03 03:43:25 PM
Hmm. At 45 seconds into the video, right as she's all up in the guards face (and camera), it looks like the guard reaches out an pushes her. If so, the guard initiated the violence.

And then a few seconds later, he reaches out and grabs her tit:
img195.imageshack.us

Eh. Some people will be... some people.
 
2013-02-03 03:43:39 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Awesome T-Shirt: Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.

I saw the picture in the article and that guy looks as well geared as a SWAT member. Wtf kind of place do you put a mall where you have to have a guy in tactical gear guarding it? If its that bad they should shut the farker down. Also, I did chuckle when that woman got dropped. Her kids have little chance of becoming productive members of society if that is what is raising them.


That's called downtown Atlanta
 
2013-02-03 03:43:54 PM

NutWrench: Direct link to Youtube video.
This clip is about 5 minutes long and provides more than enough "context" for those who question whether or not she deserved it.


Bad Lip Reading needs to some work on that video.
 
2013-02-03 03:44:23 PM
Today while reading a story of a black man wanted on weapons and drug charges, I noticed the banner advertisement advertising February as "Black History Month".  Another fine contextual article for that.  It's hard to fight "racism" when so many seem to be willing and able to keep the stereotypes alive.
 
2013-02-03 03:44:59 PM
(Checks to see if Georgia honors my carry permit... No? Oh, well...)
Not going to Atlanta, or to that farking shiathole mall, ever.

/hope she hit her head on the way down
 
2013-02-03 03:45:46 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Did you watch the video?  The woman physically assaulted him.
 
2013-02-03 03:47:15 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.


I think those kids are much better off for witnessing that. Perhaps they will learn the lesson that behavior like that has consequences. It's just possible that security guard has saved one or more of those kid's lives.
 
2013-02-03 03:48:56 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

/approves
 
2013-02-03 03:49:13 PM

jtown: orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?

Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?  Either way, she'd moved from words to physical attack and went from public space to private space in the process.


No it went from verbal disagreement (although vocal) to physical assault, it was all public(or at least semi public, ie a publicly accessible mall) space private property has nothing to do with it.

/Libertarians you bring your non-sense on my property we'll have a conversation.
 
2013-02-03 03:49:45 PM
This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.
 
2013-02-03 03:50:57 PM

fredklein: Hmm. At 45 seconds into the video, right as she's all up in the guards face (and camera), it looks like the guard reaches out an pushes her. If so, the guard initiated the violence.

And then a few seconds later, he reaches out and grabs her tit:
[img195.imageshack.us image 645x365]

Eh. Some people will be... some people.


Watch again.  She "chest bumps" him.  Sure, it is not something that would hurt him, but she initiated the physical contact in the incident.

With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?
 
2013-02-03 03:51:09 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


The security guard didn't tase her when she called him names and insulted him.  He tased the female (I refuse to call her a lady) when she started fighting with him.  He gave her adequate warning and she got tased.  That shut her the hell up didn't it?
 
2013-02-03 03:51:39 PM

orbister: jtown: Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?

I'm still amazed. Maybe it makes sense in a country where shooting people is in general OK. Over here he would be locked up for a good long time just for carrying a taser.


Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.
 
2013-02-03 03:52:11 PM

orbister: jtown: Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?

I'm still amazed. Maybe it makes sense in a country where shooting people is in general OK. Over here he would be locked up for a good long time just for carrying a taser.


Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.
 
2013-02-03 03:52:33 PM
cdn-premiere.ladmedia.fr

/Disapproves.
 
2013-02-03 03:52:34 PM
Fake. Obviously a viral ad for Pepsi.
 
2013-02-03 03:54:24 PM

CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.


Your sad attempt at humor has made you look like an idiot.  I hope you're happy.
 
2013-02-03 03:54:47 PM

Mock26: Watch again. She "chest bumps" him. Sure, it is not something that would hurt him, but she initiated the physical contact in the incident.


I see a shadow on the left that looks like the guards arm. or maybe not.

With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

I would not have gone back to 'get into it' with her.  The guard did.
 
2013-02-03 03:55:47 PM
TIIIMMBERR! (clunk).
 
2013-02-03 03:58:29 PM

CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.


community.us.playstation.com
 
2013-02-03 03:59:12 PM

OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.


Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.


The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.
 
2013-02-03 03:59:47 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Awesome T-Shirt: Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.

I saw the picture in the article and that guy looks as well geared as a SWAT member. Wtf kind of place do you put a mall where you have to have a guy in tactical gear guarding it? If its that bad they should shut the farker down. Also, I did chuckle when that woman got dropped. Her kids have little chance of becoming productive members of society if that is what is raising them.


Close to the State capitol building.

I can't imagine it's like that all day, every day.  But damn, how do you make any money with such shiat going on?  How often do you have to replace every window?
 
2013-02-03 04:00:01 PM

fredklein: Mock26: Watch again. She "chest bumps" him. Sure, it is not something that would hurt him, but she initiated the physical contact in the incident.

I see a shadow on the left that looks like the guards arm. or maybe not.

With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

I would not have gone back to 'get into it' with her.  The guard did.


He didn't go to get back her rotten crotch fruit were coming back in
 
2013-02-03 04:00:22 PM

CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.


Starting retroactively with CuttySupreme's mother.  Yeah...I went there.
 
2013-02-03 04:00:32 PM
More of these kind of security guards in the inner cities, and there would be less of the
foul mouth welfare bums.  More power to him!
 
2013-02-03 04:00:56 PM

Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?


Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"
 
2013-02-03 04:00:59 PM

Loucifer: BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.

I think those kids are much better off for witnessing that. Perhaps they will learn the lesson that behavior like that has consequences. It's just possible that security guard has saved one or more of those kid's lives.


My favorite part of the video was when she got tased and the kids started screaming.

My first thought was "those kids received an excellent object lesson in being polite and civil today. Good job mom"

/the tears of children taste like honey to me
//sweet sweet honey
 
2013-02-03 04:01:22 PM

fredklein: I would not have gone back to 'get into it' with her.  The guard did.


He's paid by his employer to keep trash like her our of their mall. He warned her many, many times to stay outside on public property and she didn't.
 
2013-02-03 04:02:19 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


I'm pretty sure he gets paid to keep assholes out of the mall.  'Just walk away' would mean he wasn't doing his job.
 
2013-02-03 04:04:12 PM

Elegy: Loucifer: BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.

I think those kids are much better off for witnessing that. Perhaps they will learn the lesson that behavior like that has consequences. It's just possible that security guard has saved one or more of those kid's lives.

My favorite part of the video was when she got tased and the kids started screaming.

My first thought was "those kids received an excellent object lesson in being polite and civil today. Good job mom"

/the tears of children taste like honey to me
//sweet sweet honey


It was certainly a teachable moment.
 
2013-02-03 04:05:07 PM
"Since the campaign began it has raised $20,000 so Long can buy himself more equipment."

That much equipment would be too heavy.  He needs a pair of killer-trained wolf/dog hybrids!
 
2013-02-03 04:05:19 PM

CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check EBT card for getting an abortion.


FTFY
 
2013-02-03 04:05:35 PM
Attention violent & angry people in the videos...I've got a message from my wife who is African-American:

www.patentspostgrant.com
 
2013-02-03 04:05:51 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Wake up, idiot. She trespassed and insulted him. He acted within his rights. She got a small part of what she deserved.

That women is a cancer. Someone needs to take her kids off her and raise them properly. Dirty trash.
 
2013-02-03 04:06:47 PM

orbister: OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.

Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

Security guards in the us have no special rights. That coont was on property she didn't own refused to leave at first then assaulted the person who told her to leave.

You think it would have been safe to get into a fight with a woman there?
 
2013-02-03 04:07:40 PM
If the taser was issued to him and authorized based on his occupation, then he was legally allowed to use it. Physical contact was initiated and he reacted.
 
2013-02-03 04:08:04 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.
 
2013-02-03 04:08:12 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"



It's his job NOT to walk away. It's what he gets paid to do; confront those breaking mall policies/code of conduct.

His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.
 
2013-02-03 04:10:27 PM
Tased while going nugger?  There's an app for that.
 
2013-02-03 04:10:36 PM
One suggestion.. Buy a Cattle Prod.
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-03 04:10:45 PM
No George Zimmerman analogies yet?
 
2013-02-03 04:11:10 PM

orbister: OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.

Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


i think you may be confusing the U.S. for a country that has been metaphorically castrated, like the UK.  The mall does not want drug dealers and thieves on the property, and has a right to tell people that they are not allowed to be on the property. your position is to capitulate to the drug dealers and thieves and allow them to win and to create further societal decay. you have this position because you are a pussy. you have no concept of righteous violence and disguise your cowardice with this argument for peacefulness. so in the meantime, why dont you continue jailing the citizens in your country for making "offensive" facebook posts and mind your own business?
 
2013-02-03 04:11:40 PM
She attacked him, and he tased her.  And people have a problem with that?

Watch the extended clip, after its over some guy comes up and tells the security guard he's going to kill him soon.

This guard just made 20 grand, thats a year and a half's pay.
Take the money.
Quit your job.
Move.
Go to technical school for a year and get the fark out of security work.  Or it will only get worse.

/quit doing secuirty back in 95 after the second time somebody attempted to shoot me.
//started working tech support for twice the pay and only the occasional death threat.
 
2013-02-03 04:11:52 PM

liam76: He didn't go to get back her rotten crotch fruit were coming back in


The reason he went back is irrelevant. He went back and got into a physical confrontation with her.

Besides, he didn't kick the kids out, just her.

And what's with him saying 'get your kids'? If they're not inside, she doesn't have to get them. And if they ARE inside, and she can't come inside, then she CAN'T get them. That's cop level logic right there! ("Freeze!" "Get down on the ground! "Don't move!")
 
2013-02-03 04:12:26 PM

GWSuperfan: Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization.


Or retrospective abortion
 
2013-02-03 04:13:15 PM
That guy probably has the worst Job in America.

When he backs away into the room/office and tells everyone to stand back it reminded me of a zombie movie.
 
2013-02-03 04:13:42 PM

beer4breakfast: He's paid by his employer to keep trash like her our of their mall. He warned her many, many times to stay outside on public property and she didn't.


She was on the sidewalk when he went back. All he had to do was not go back and confront her again.
 
2013-02-03 04:14:15 PM

orbister: OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.

Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


How do you deal with the chavs in your country? Also, what started as a verbal altercation turned into trespassing and violence when she came back in the the mall and assaulted the guy. Notice, he didn't go outside the mall to confront her. She was the physical aggressor.
 
2013-02-03 04:14:29 PM

thenewmissus: CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.

Your sad attempt at humor has made you look like an idiot.  I hope you're happy.


Tell me if this is better:

s/black/braindead//

I'm sure the code is wrong but you get the idea.

There's two women here in my (all-white) neighborhood who are pregnant with their fourth child who shouldn't be.
 
2013-02-03 04:14:48 PM
The reason this happened is that the security guard was doing his job, and black people in Atlanta feel that they are allowed to get away with not following the rules if the guard (or cop, or whatever authority figure) is black.  Otherwise, the guard is "trippin'", or the woman feels that she can assault him. He's lucky they didn't all lynch him for being an "Uncle Tom".

/and for the record, the kids are already farked.
 
2013-02-03 04:16:07 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


Why hire a security guard at all?
 
2013-02-03 04:16:38 PM
Before watching, I really really wanted to side with her, because I could not think of why a mall cop would have to taser anyone just for being belligerent. After watching it, I think he could have used more taser rounds.
 
2013-02-03 04:16:54 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


Yeah, this sort of thing never happens in the UK. http://news.yahoo.com/stun-gun-used-armed-man-near-buckingham-palace- 1 74640894.html
 
2013-02-03 04:17:08 PM

orbister: However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you


No you just laid the ground work for making sure many of those countries couldn't have stabe countries without strong arm dictators.

Supporting the mujahideen  was fine, it was walking away afterwards that was the problem.

As far as Saddam, you know your country was arming him too, rihgt?
 
2013-02-03 04:17:41 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.  I'm surprised the guy at the end didn't knock his block off.  Curious that the video went black when he was confronted by another man.


Well, she was swinging at him, so yeah. I'd have tased her too.
 
2013-02-03 04:18:11 PM

liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.


She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.
 
2013-02-03 04:18:27 PM
We need much bigger clips on these Tasers.
 
2013-02-03 04:18:31 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Did you miss the part where she assualted him?  Or did you read the article stating she got arrested for said assaults?  Or were you bullied in high school and you think people should lie in the fetal position whenever someone shows aggression to them?

Or you could be one magnificent troll, because nobody is that dense.  At least he didn't use a gun, lib-rul.
 
2013-02-03 04:18:33 PM

FarkinHostile: His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.


I would be amazed if he didnt call his dispatch for a police visit on his radio at the start of all this.  Running people off the property (who management tells you to run off btw) is part of the crap hole that is security work.
 
2013-02-03 04:18:37 PM

fredklein: liam76: He didn't go to get back her rotten crotch fruit were coming back in

The reason he went back is irrelevant. He went back and got into a physical confrontation with her.

Besides, he didn't kick the kids out, just her.

And what's with him saying 'get your kids'? If they're not inside, she doesn't have to get them. And if they ARE inside, and she can't come inside, then she CAN'T get them. That's cop level logic right there! ("Freeze!" "Get down on the ground! "Don't move!")


Ah, I see you are talking about the portion at 0:36 where said rotten crotchfruit are walking back into the mall (where I'm sure no unaccompanied minors are allowed) to tell at him? This is the point where he walks back out to the door - he was headed away from the whole incident before them.

I'm pretty sure you're a concern troll, or some variation thereof.
 
2013-02-03 04:19:00 PM

dstanley: There's two women here in my (all-white) neighborhood who are pregnant with their fourth child who shouldn't be.


I know a woman who is pregnant for the fifth time,she doesn't have custody of her other four children and the 4th one was taken within 30 minutes of birth and yes she's white. Race has nothing to do with being a trashy asshole.
 
2013-02-03 04:19:09 PM
The sad part is that I bet this guy's dead in a matter of months, shot by someone looking for Internet fame.
 
2013-02-03 04:19:52 PM

Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.


Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).
 
2013-02-03 04:20:08 PM

dstanley: thenewmissus: CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.

Your sad attempt at humor has made you look like an idiot.  I hope you're happy.

Tell me if this is better:

s/black/braindead//

I'm sure the code is wrong but you get the idea.

There's two women here in my (all-white) neighborhood who are pregnant with their fourth child who shouldn't be.


Stupidity knows no race.
 
2013-02-03 04:20:17 PM

BunkyBrewman: Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids.  I'm surprised the guy at the end didn't knock his block off.  Curious that the video went black when he was confronted by another man.


It's pretty cool that you don't mind she attacked him 'in front of her kids'.

I'm guessing with a mother like her, they have probably seen worse too.
 
2013-02-03 04:20:29 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Dude, seriously? Biatch wasn't just calling him a few names. She was slapping him and swinging
at him. Damn right he tased her. She's lucky he only tased her enough to knock her ass down.

He could have done it so that she'd end up a drooling, pissing in her pants heap on the ground.
 
2013-02-03 04:21:01 PM

MrBentor: One suggestion.. Buy a Cattle Prod.


Mall security:
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-03 04:21:20 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).


Yeah, and he starts to walk away at which time the kids try to come back in.
 
2013-02-03 04:21:25 PM

fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.


You're seeing this entirely different than I am. One of us is blind, obviously, because I see those hellspawn clearly heading through the doorway at 0:36, with mamma following hard on their heels.
 
2013-02-03 04:21:35 PM
Someone has to have made a GIF of her going down. I'd watch that all day like Sanchez's buttfumble.
 
2013-02-03 04:21:45 PM

Elegy: fredklein:

I'm pretty sure you're a concern troll, or some variation thereof.



He is an Authority Hater, not a troll. Anyone in authority/uniform is automatically wrong to him if they exercise their power, even if justified.
 
2013-02-03 04:21:53 PM
That stupid whore should have been tazed years ago.  I hope all her little convicts-to-be saw what happens when you act a fool too.
 
2013-02-03 04:22:16 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).


Too many folks afflicted with "you're not the boss of me" syndrome.
 
2013-02-03 04:22:18 PM

FarkinHostile: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


It's his job NOT to walk away. It's what he gets paid to do; confront those breaking mall policies/code of conduct.

His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.


I bet the cops get sick of getting called when it is just some biatch getting mouthy - or even for a legitimate trespassing charge.  The cops would probably show interest once it got physical, but maybe not even then.  I guess that living in a better neighborhood means that the cops will be less fatigued with the BS and will show up before it gets physical.

This place looks like it could generate a dozen calls to the cops daily.  It is just that this one went  viral.  If I was the security guard, I'd make those calls to the cops count.  I'd want my call to mean something when some serious problems arise.
 
2013-02-03 04:23:48 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


Missed that "simple assault" charge, eh?
 
2013-02-03 04:24:28 PM
orbister

I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?

You forgot call him a racist.
 
2013-02-03 04:24:36 PM

FarkinHostile: Elegy: fredklein:

I'm pretty sure you're a concern troll, or some variation thereof.


He is an Authority Hater, not a troll. Anyone in authority/uniform is automatically wrong to him if they exercise their power, even if justified.


Got it, farked him as such, and thank you for the info.
 
2013-02-03 04:25:45 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).


I'm not familiar with this mall, but usually when you walk outside of a Mall you are not "off mall property".  Can't say whether or not that is the case here though.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:25 PM

fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.


Ummm, "spawn" and "crotchfruit" are used pretty liberally on fark to describe unruly children of all races.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:33 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


In the US, unlike the UK, people have a right to defend themselves from violent people.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:37 PM

orclover: She attacked him, and he tased her.  And people have a problem with that?

Watch the extended clip, after its over some guy comes up and tells the security guard he's going to kill him soon.

This guard just made 20 grand, thats a year and a half's pay.
Take the money.
Quit your job.
Move.
Go to technical school for a year and get the fark out of security work.  Or it will only get worse.

/quit doing secuirty back in 95 after the second time somebody attempted to shoot me.
//started working tech support for twice the pay and only the occasional death threat.


This guy obviously gets more from his job than just a paycheck.  He's doing an incredibly difficult job very well for shiat pay, no doubt.  He's either an insane control freak or a brave community servant.  I'll go with the latter because he let the biatch live.  Either way, he's doing what makes him happiest.
 
2013-02-03 04:26:51 PM
Obviously, core Obama supporters/voters. No surprises here. Stay classy Obama sycophants!
 
2013-02-03 04:27:12 PM

orbister: OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.

Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


You don't know downtown ATL very well, do you? In some parts of Atlanta (indeed in some parts of many cities across the country) all that turning your back and walking away from a confrontation will get you is an attack from the rear.
 
2013-02-03 04:27:13 PM

FormlessOne: The sad part is that I bet this guy's dead in a matter of months, shot by someone looking for Internet fame.


media.tumblr.com

You'll be dead in a year son.

/so images just paste in now?
 
2013-02-03 04:27:53 PM

fredklein: liam76: He didn't go to get back her rotten crotch fruit were coming back in

The reason he went back is irrelevant. He went back and got into a physical confrontation with her.


You are right, he is the security guard and he had not only a right but a duty to go back, whereas the coont you are defending had no right to attack him.

Glad you pointed that out.


fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.


He was in the mall the entire time, it is his job to be there.

Shove your claims of racism up your ass.  Did you hear what those kids were yelling?  Did you fail to see them walking back in?  I am sorry when you see people acting like that and assume and negative comment must be based on their skin and not their very clear behavioral problems, but that makes you the problem with race not me.
 
2013-02-03 04:28:09 PM

wagnerism: FarkinHostile: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


It's his job NOT to walk away. It's what he gets paid to do; confront those breaking mall policies/code of conduct.

His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.

I bet the cops get sick of getting called when it is just some biatch getting mouthy - or even for a legitimate trespassing charge.  The cops would probably show interest once it got physical, but maybe not even then.  I guess that living in a better neighborhood means that the cops will be less fatigued with the BS and will show up before it gets physical.

This place looks like it could generate a dozen calls to the cops daily.  It is just that this one went  viral.  If I was the security guard, I'd make those calls to the cops count.  I'd want my call to mean something when some serious problems arise.


To be sure they get sick of such calls, but regardless, that is their job. And even more importantly, CYA. When it became obvious she was going to continue to cause a big disturbance, and most definitely when there are children involved, you do the smart thing and call it in just to cover your ass. If they leave, you can call back and cancel the call. If not, you have done the most correct actions and this can save your hide if it gets ugly, which it did, no?
 
2013-02-03 04:28:24 PM

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Not News on Reddit last week: Abusive woman refuses to leave local mall. News: Overzealous security guard tasers her, catching it all on video. Fark: Gets a $20,000 tip from fans on the internet for itleft in the dust once again by Reddit

FTFY, Subtard


Thank you Subby for posting your find on a well designed and organized news aggregation instead of dropping it in a sludge pot and making me root for it.

/ Reddit had it first but Fark does it best.
//  Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin:  Are you saying we can't post anything Reddit has already posted?
 
2013-02-03 04:29:03 PM

oh_please: Someone has to have made a GIF of her going down. I'd watch that all day like Sanchez's buttfumble.


ask an ye shall recieve...

Been out for a week

and farking fark wont embed the image without biatching 50 times so heres just the farking links:

really drew wtf is with this shiatty new system?
 
2013-02-03 04:29:43 PM

fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.


Your stupid is showing. People like you make excuses for the people like her. You're just as bad as she is.

Racism?! fark off. She was acting like a total retard. Trespass and assault. Lucky she only got tasered.
 
2013-02-03 04:30:12 PM
Wtf, ate my links.

Drew your shiats broke.
 
2013-02-03 04:30:45 PM

FarkinHostile: wagnerism: FarkinHostile: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


It's his job NOT to walk away. It's what he gets paid to do; confront those breaking mall policies/code of conduct.

His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.

I bet the cops get sick of getting called when it is just some biatch getting mouthy - or even for a legitimate trespassing charge.  The cops would probably show interest once it got physical, but maybe not even then.  I guess that living in a better neighborhood means that the cops will be less fatigued with the BS and will show up before it gets physical.

This place looks like it could generate a dozen calls to the cops daily.  It is just that this one went  viral.  If I was the security guard, I'd make those calls to the cops count.  I'd want my call to mean something when some serious problems arise.

To be sure they get sick of such calls, but regardless, that is their job. And even more importantly, CYA. When it became obvious she was going to continue to cause a big disturbance, and most definitely when there are children involved, you do the smart thing and call it in just to cover your ass. If they leave, you can call back and cancel the call. If not, you have done the most correct actions and this can save your hide if it gets ugly, which it did, no?


In the second video that Awesome T-Shirt linked earlier, he is repeatedly asking for someone off screen to call the cops.  I don't know if he did so in this incident, though.
 
2013-02-03 04:30:54 PM

BarkingUnicorn: This guy obviously gets more from his job than just a paycheck.  He's doing an incredibly difficult job very well for shiat pay, no doubt.  He's either an insane control freak or a brave community servant.  I'll go with the latter because he let the biatch live.  Either way, he's doing what makes him happiest.


he can to support himself.

fixed.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:08 PM
Now I remember why I didnt like Austin's Highland Mall is in the early 90's.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:14 PM

FarkinHostile: His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.


I have the feeling that mall is the kind of place where they measure police response time using the same scale they use to track geological epochs.  The real issue is that the mall is paying some security guard to cover the place solo.  They need to rent some real cops or at least get him some coworkers.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:18 PM

o_blah: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

Why hire a security guard at all?


Somebody has to administer admonishments.

There is nothing more futile than an argument between citizens of the U. S. and U. K.  They do not communicate despite their common language.  They are equally arrogant.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:39 PM

GopherGuts: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x478]

/approves


That was a good movie. I think I need to watch it again.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:42 PM

orclover: FarkinHostile: His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.

I would be amazed if he didnt call his dispatch for a police visit on his radio at the start of all this.  Running people off the property (who management tells you to run off btw) is part of the crap hole that is security work.



Reddit has a bunch of these videos and in a few cops do show up.  Given the behavior of people in that video I don't see police putting a high priority on some guy complaining about people not leaving.
 

Igor Jakovsky: Ummm, "spawn" and "crotchfruit" are used pretty liberally on fark to describe unruly children of all races


He is one of those morons who like to cry racism when they realize they have made an idiotic argument.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:54 PM
 
2013-02-03 04:33:09 PM

orclover: really drew wtf is with this shiatty new system?


second.
 
2013-02-03 04:33:24 PM

logicalman: Obviously, core Obama supporters/voters. No surprises here. Stay classy Obama sycophants!


Oh shut up, ya troll.
 
2013-02-03 04:33:35 PM
Lexington Market in Baltimore needs this dude.
 
2013-02-03 04:34:15 PM

Elegy: Ah, I see you are talking about the portion at 0:36 where said rotten crotchfruit are walking back into the mall (where I'm sure no unaccompanied minors are allowed) to tell at him? This is the point where he walks back out to the door - he was headed away from the whole incident before them.


First, the "rotten crotch fruit" were walking TOWARDS the mall entrance. They were not inside it when the guard turned around. Second, if unaccompanied minors are not allowed, then tell them to leave.
 
2013-02-03 04:35:28 PM
ok I give up, it must be some sort of auto word filter
 
2013-02-03 04:36:35 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Ah, I see you are talking about the portion at 0:36 where said rotten crotchfruit are walking back into the mall (where I'm sure no unaccompanied minors are allowed) to tell at him? This is the point where he walks back out to the door - he was headed away from the whole incident before them.

First, the "rotten crotch fruit" were walking TOWARDS the mall entrance. They were not inside it when the guard turned around. Second, if unaccompanied minors are not allowed, then tell them to leave.


You have a lot of approved links for a troll account.  The kids were clearly heading for the mall and he tells her to get them, as in prevent them from entering.  Which would be your exact point about telling unaccompanied minors to leave, although he told the parent instead of the minors.  The woman charges him instead of just getting the kids off the stoop and leaving.
 
2013-02-03 04:37:09 PM

jtown: orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?

Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?  Either way, she'd moved from words to physical attack and went from public space to private space in the process.


"You gonna get beat" = Assault
[Pushing the Security Guard] = Battery
 
2013-02-03 04:39:23 PM

Elegy: fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.

You're seeing this entirely different than I am. One of us is blind, obviously, because I see those hellspawn clearly heading through the doorway at 0:36, with mamma following hard on their heels.


So, you're saying the fact that the kids entering the mall at :36 is justification for him turning back at :32 ?? Is the guard a Time Lord?

Oh, and you're completely ignoring the fact the guard TOLD the women "Get your kids, get your children", which is when she started moving toward them.
 
2013-02-03 04:40:16 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Ah, I see you are talking about the portion at 0:36 where said rotten crotchfruit are walking back into the mall (where I'm sure no unaccompanied minors are allowed) to tell at him? This is the point where he walks back out to the door - he was headed away from the whole incident before them.

First, the "rotten crotch fruit" were walking TOWARDS the mall entrance. They were not inside it when the guard turned around. Second, if unaccompanied minors are not allowed, then tell them to leave.


Hence the point of saying "get your kids" to her, as they charge towards the door? After which she gets up in his face trying to keep it real, and then gets her just desserts for acting like an asshat.

Again, it's his job to stand at the doorway and make sure they don't come back in. Not sure why you have such a problem with this, other than your blanket hatred for anyone in a uniform that is.
 
2013-02-03 04:40:49 PM

ha-ha-guy: FarkinHostile: His mistakes were not calling the cops right away and to engage her in a verbal fight, which escalated the disturbance.  Should have just called the cops and kept his mouth shut. Everything else was fine, including tazing her. Perhaps the BF, too.

I have the feeling that mall is the kind of place where they measure police response time using the same scale they use to track geological epochs.  The real issue is that the mall is paying some security guard to cover the place solo.  They need to rent some real cops or at least get him some coworkers.


Appropriate coworkers:

4.bp.blogspot.com

img.thesun.co.uk
 
2013-02-03 04:41:21 PM

Wise_Guy: In the second video that Awesome T-Shirt linked earlier, he is repeatedly asking for someone off screen to call the cops. I don't know if he did so in this incident, though.


Ah, didn't see that, but it's best to make the call yourself. From a LEO/Courts POV, whoever calls is the "victim". Can't trust others to do anything, either.  Mobile phone, 911, ignore her (till she swings, of course) and first off tell them the address in case you can't continue to talk due to attack.

ha-ha-guy: I have the feeling that mall is the kind of place where they measure police response time using the same scale they use to track geological epochs.


Doesn't matter. It's about doing the smart thing. If it comes to a courtroom, just the fact he called would add to his credibility. Plus, the cops get there sooner if it gets violent, which it did.

Honestly, that could have gotten incredibly ugly because of the kids being there.
 
2013-02-03 04:43:20 PM

fredklein: Elegy: fredklein: liam76: Had he just turned his back he would be a pretty shiatty security guard as she or her spawn wouldn't have left.

She 'and her spawn' (um, your racism is showing) WERE OUT OF THE MALL. (25 seconds) The guard turned and started walking away, THEN TURNED BACK. (32 seconds) At this point (watch the video), the woman and her kids were still out on the sidewalk. All he had to do was keep walking. Instead, he turned back.

You're seeing this entirely different than I am. One of us is blind, obviously, because I see those hellspawn clearly heading through the doorway at 0:36, with mamma following hard on their heels.

So, you're saying the fact that the kids entering the mall at :36 is justification for him turning back at :32 ?? Is the guard a Time Lord?

Oh, and you're completely ignoring the fact the guard TOLD the women "Get your kids, get your children", which is when she started moving toward them.


Annnnnddddd I'm done playing with you because you keep going around in circles. If you don't like it this much, start a fundraising campaign to get the nice plank lady a lawyer. Bet you collect less than the security guard has already received.

Have a nice day folks.
 
2013-02-03 04:43:21 PM
Um, yeah, the mall cop was doing his job. The mothers and kids had been kicked out. She came back in. That's (a) trespassing, and when she pushed and started slapping the guard, (b) assault.

I just went and donated $1 for every dumbass in this thread arguing on the side of public disorder.

Here is where you donate: https://www.crowdtilt.com/campaigns/this-fund-is-for-darien-long-kick - ass-mall-cop
 
2013-02-03 04:43:36 PM
Here's what the article said before the autofilter changed my quote

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-03 04:44:31 PM

FarkinHostile: He is an Authority Hater, not a troll. Anyone in authority/uniform is automatically wrong to him if they exercise their power, even if justified.


Nope. He had every right to kick her out. And he had every right to kick her kids out. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk.
 
2013-02-03 04:46:24 PM

fredklein: FarkinHostile: He is an Authority Hater, not a troll. Anyone in authority/uniform is automatically wrong to him if they exercise their power, even if justified.

Nope. He had every right to kick her out. And he had every right to kick her kids out. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk.


Do you really have a problem? Maybe you should start a petition.
 
2013-02-03 04:46:59 PM

skinink: "Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids. "

Those kids were as poorly behaved as the mother who didn't have enough sense to watch over her kids instead of trying to look tough by abusing a rent a cop. If she felt she was in the right, she could have easily called the cops herself. Instead she just wanted to make a scene. Maybe her kids will learn not to act like an idiot in public.

I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.


I agree they were just as bad as she was, she started the altercation, and she was the one who was charged in the incident. I laughed my ass off when he tasered her!! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!
 
2013-02-03 04:47:02 PM

fredklein: What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk


We get it.

You think he should have kicked her out, then gone and hidden in an office somewhere, and do absolutely nothing to make sure she or her rotten crotchfruit don't come back in because that is the cause of the problem, not her you know actually coming back in.
 
2013-02-03 04:47:40 PM
fredklein:

Gotcha.  Badly behaving people causing a disturbance on private property are not in the wrong.  Attacking security guards is not wrong.  This person was doing nothing bad at all, this stupid security guard was the aggressor, he must have been looking to start a fight the whole time.  He forced her to attack him!  What a bastard.
 
2013-02-03 04:48:26 PM

heywood-jablome: Here's what the article said before the autofilter changed my quote

[i.imgur.com image 803x714]


Why did you go to all that trouble for just this?
 
2013-02-03 04:49:16 PM
I simply cannot figure out why so many people blindly hate authority figures and are such defiant, unrepentant criminals. It's just a big mystery. Must be something in the water.

\It's not something in the water
 
2013-02-03 04:50:56 PM
You could tell that the boyfriend- if that is what he was and not her pimp- wasn't going to do shiat other than look menacing. He had that "just out on parole" appearance about him.
 
2013-02-03 04:54:17 PM

ha-ha-guy: You have a lot of approved links for a troll account.


That's because I'm not a troll.

The kids were clearly heading for the mall

"Heading for" =/= "in". That's all I'm saying.

The kids were clearly heading for the mall and he tells her to get them, as in prevent them from entering.

And her heading to the doorway to get them is somehow interpreted by some here as "those hellspawn clearly heading through the doorway... with mamma following hard on their heels."

Which would be your exact point about telling unaccompanied minors to leave, although he told the parent instead of the minors.

So, the dsmae... but different?

The woman charges him instead of just getting the kids off the stoop and leaving.

If he kept walking, there would have been no 'charging' or other physical confrontation. This is my one and only point.
 
2013-02-03 04:55:23 PM
The million$ question is what if the guard is white? Would the reaction then and after be the same? Instead of being call a hero would the 'white' guard be fired, mocked, called a racist and have folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson congregating on the mall to demand justice for the abuse and violence against the 'innocent young black mother' by an abusive racist mall cop?
 
2013-02-03 04:55:41 PM

OnlyM3: orbister

I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?
You forgot call him a racist.


You forgot to call him a liberal.
 
2013-02-03 04:56:10 PM

fredklein: The woman charges him instead of just getting the kids off the stoop and leaving.

If he kept walking, there would have been no 'charging' or other physical confrontation. This is my one and only point.


He doesn't have to give ground at all.  Stop making excuses for her shiatty behavior.
 
2013-02-03 04:56:16 PM
It seems the guard's employer is OK with him posting these videos.  The boss must figure that locals won't be scared away the sight of drug dealers, hoods, and batshiat crazy mamas.  Judging by the nonchalance of the uninvolved shoppers, I'd say he's right.

That's really scary!

The place must be locally owned.  A national mall chain would fire his ass instantly just because of the publicity.
 
2013-02-03 04:57:27 PM
We hate tasers!
We love tasers!
Make up your minds, Fark.
 
2013-02-03 04:57:30 PM

Awesome T-Shirt: Video of the next day when he's confronted about it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhAI7gkcikw83Oyf vC

Guy pulls his gun on another guy who's about to throw a brick at him. I really feel for the security guard seeing all the trash he has to deal with.


Thar's some scary shiat when you have to keep your back to the wall and their talking bought getting you on your way home
 
2013-02-03 04:58:23 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The million$ question is what if the guard is white? Would the reaction then and after be the same? Instead of being call a hero would the 'white' guard be fired, mocked, called a racist and have folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson congregating on the mall to demand justice for the abuse and violence against the 'innocent young black mother' by an abusive racist mall cop?


D) All of the above?

Sharpton would have been on that like white on ric...uh, you know what I mean.
 
2013-02-03 04:58:26 PM

Elegy: Annnnnddddd I'm done playing with you because you keep going around in circles.


YOU are the one going in circles.

ME: She was off the property. The guard turned back unnecessarily at :32.
YOU: At :36 her kids come on the property
ME: So, how does that justify him turning back 4 seconds before that?
You: You're going in circles. I'm outta here.
 
2013-02-03 04:59:17 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
If the mall cops need this kind of gear for their job, I'm going to a different mall.
I'm pro-gun and don't have a problem with armed mall security, but that kind of tacti-cool gear just looks silly.
I wonder if he was a Space Shuttle Door Gunner in the Special Forces?
 
2013-02-03 05:00:00 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The million$ question is what if the guard is white? Would the reaction then and after be the same? Instead of being call a hero would the 'white' guard be fired, mocked, called a racist and have folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson congregating on the mall to demand justice for the abuse and violence against the 'innocent young black mother' by an abusive racist mall cop?


Hypothetical questions aren't worth a million dollars.
 
2013-02-03 05:00:24 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Annnnnddddd I'm done playing with you because you keep going around in circles.

YOU are the one going in circles.

ME: She was off the property. The guard turned back unnecessarily at :32.
YOU: At :36 her kids come on the property
ME: So, how does that justify him turning back 4 seconds before that?
You: You're going in circles. I'm outta here.


He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.  He could stand at the door like a bouncer if he wants to.
 
2013-02-03 05:00:50 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The million$ question is what if the guard is white? Would the reaction then and after be the same? Instead of being call a hero would the 'white' guard be fired, mocked, called a racist and have folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson congregating on the mall to demand justice for the abuse and violence against the 'innocent young black mother' by an abusive racist mall cop?


And what if the woman is white? Would the reaction then and after be the same? Why is a hypothetical question the million$ question for you? Are you a retard?
 
2013-02-03 05:01:12 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


That reaction is amazing and I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
2013-02-03 05:02:01 PM
I'm confused, what's this donation for?  Did he get fired?
 
2013-02-03 05:02:20 PM
What a bunch of stupid, worthless, piles of shiat.
 
2013-02-03 05:02:50 PM
Don't step on the crack or he'll taze yo' mama's back.
 
2013-02-03 05:04:46 PM

liam76: fredklein: What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk

We get it.

You think he should have kicked her out, then gone and hidden in an office somewhere, and do absolutely nothing to make sure she or her rotten crotchfruit don't come back in because that is the cause of the problem, not her you know actually coming back in.


Nice strawman.

No, he should have kicked her out, then, once she was out, walked away and continued his patrol (or whatever).

What he should not have done is turn back as he did. If she had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back. If the kids had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back.

At the time he turned back, neither of these was true.
 
2013-02-03 05:05:39 PM

ReverendJasen: fredklein:

Gotcha.  Badly behaving people causing a disturbance on private property are not in the wrong.  Attacking security guards is not wrong.  This person was doing nothing bad at all, this stupid security guard was the aggressor, he must have been looking to start a fight the whole time.  He forced her to attack him!  What a bastard.


Nice strawman. I never said any of that. Nor do I believe it.
 
2013-02-03 05:08:24 PM

Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.


It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...
 
2013-02-03 05:11:37 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Annnnnddddd I'm done playing with you because you keep going around in circles.

YOU are the one going in circles.

ME: She was off the property. The guard turned back unnecessarily to continue monitoring an unruly patron that had already been removed from the property at :32, which was his clear and immediate duty as a security guard of said property.
YOU: At :36 her kids come back on the property along with their mother, who has already been told to leave.
ME: OMG THAT SECURITY GUARD SHOULD HAVE GONE AND HIDDEN AND THAT NICE INNOCENT LADY WOULD HAVE SIMPLY LEFT WITHOUT CAUSING ANY MORE PROBLEMS HALP HALP POLICE BRUTALITY
You: You're going in circles. I'm outta here.


/said I wouldn't do that, but ya know how it is sometimes.
 
2013-02-03 05:14:12 PM

fredklein: liam76: fredklein: What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk

We get it.

You think he should have kicked her out, then gone and hidden in an office somewhere, and do absolutely nothing to make sure she or her rotten crotchfruit don't come back in because that is the cause of the problem, not her you know actually coming back in.

Nice strawman.

No, he should have kicked her out, then, once she was out, walked away and continued his patrol (or whatever).

What he should not have done is turn back as he did. If she had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back. If the kids had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back.

At the time he turned back, neither of these was true.


Strawman?  You see a substantial difference between "or whatever" and going to his office?


Lets say he did what you say he should.  How would he have known if she re-entered if he hid in his office walked away or whatever?


The only justification he needs to turn back is that he is a security job and he was on the property he was supposed to secure.

People are accusing you of being a troll because you have to be weapons grade stupid to think he is under some sort of obligation to walk away after he tells someone to leave and they leave.  If I was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is scurry away and not do anything to make sure they stayed away I would fire them.  Any intelligent person would fire them, yet somehow you think that is the best course of action.

Tell me how many times would he have to ask someone to leave before it made sense to make sure they didn't re-enter?
 
2013-02-03 05:17:44 PM

fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...


Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation, it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation , it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation, it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.
 
2013-02-03 05:18:43 PM

Elegy: ME: She was off the property. The guard turned back unnecessarily to continue monitoring an unruly patron that had already been removed from the property at :32, which was his clear and immediate duty as a security guard of said property.


Then why was he walking away to begin with??

YOU: At :36 her kids come back on the property along with their mother, who has already been told to leave.

You missed where he specifically told her "Get your kids, get your children". Like Liam76, you have some good cop logic there: "Freeze!" "Get down on the ground! "Don't move!"

ME: OMG THAT SECURITY GUARD SHOULD HAVE GONE AND HIDDEN AND THAT NICE INNOCENT LADY WOULD HAVE SIMPLY LEFT WITHOUT CAUSING ANY MORE PROBLEMS HALP HALP POLICE BRUTALITY

Strawman. And a poorly done one at that.
 
2013-02-03 05:20:25 PM
Ugh. The place reminds me of a "flea market mall" in one of the high-crime areas of Orlando, which consisted of a bunch of Koreans selling Asian knockoff products to black folks in an environment of mutual distrust and hatred.
 
2013-02-03 05:21:49 PM
Farking self-absorbed biatch.
 
2013-02-03 05:22:00 PM

MrHappyRotter: Don't step on the crack or he'll taze yo' mama's back.


Get steppin' back or he'll taze yo' mama's back.
 
2013-02-03 05:22:29 PM

fredklein: You missed where he specifically told her "Get your kids, get your children". Like Liam76, you have some good cop logic there: "Freeze!" "Get down on the ground! "Don't move!"


So now you are justifying her attack because you think she was confused about him saying "leave" and "get your children"?

I know this lady doesn't display the most intelligence, but it is pretty clear that those two phrases mean to "leave with you children" not "come on in and attack me."
 
2013-02-03 05:28:16 PM

fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...


So I guess if someone walked into your house or business and you told them to leave, you would immediately turn around and go back to whatever it is you were doing secure in the knowledge that people always do what they're told.
 
2013-02-03 05:29:06 PM
fredklein:  If she had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back. If the kids had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back.

At the time he turned back, neither of these was true.


Ummm...How would he know that they re-entered the mall if he wasn't facing them.  Logic....do you have it?
 
2013-02-03 05:29:26 PM
If the security guard had brought all his kids and kids' baby daddies to work with him, they could have had an awesome sing-a-long street brawl ala West Side Story and nobody would have been tazed.
 
2013-02-03 05:30:08 PM

liam76: Strawman? You see a substantial difference between "or whatever" and going to his office?


Yes. One is continuing to do his job, while the other is... hiding. He should continue to do his job. He should not hide.

He also should not needlessly aggravate the situation.

BTW, I said 'or whatever' because he may not have a route to patrol, he may instead have a post to man. In that case he wouldn't 'go back on patrol', since he has no patrol to go back on.


People are accusing you of being a troll because you have to be weapons grade stupid to think he is under some sort of obligation to walk away after he tells someone to leave and they leave.

Enlighten us, what should a security guard do when they kick some one out and... horror of horrors...the person actually leaves?

I would (and did!) answer 'go back to their job'.

If I was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is scurry away and not do anything to make sure they stayed away I would fire them.

And if *I* was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is walk away, then turn and walk back and get in a fight with the person, *I* would fire them.

Tell me how many times would he have to ask someone to leave before it made sense to make sure they didn't re-enter?

Once. But you seem to think the ONLY way to "make sure they didn't re-enter" is to walk away, then turn and walk back and get into a physical confrontation with them. I disagree.
 
2013-02-03 05:30:12 PM
 
2013-02-03 05:31:03 PM

fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...


Oh, come on, you either trolling or you are just as angry and retarded as those women in the video. The woman and the kids are still lingering and shouting abuse outside the entrance, and the kids are going back inside at the same time that he turns around. He has to turn around to check if they are leaving or coming back in, and as soon as he turns around he sees the children coming in, so he asks the mother to take her children and leave.  He did absolutely nothing wrong, and gave them all the chance in the world to just shut up and leave.
 
2013-02-03 05:33:28 PM
www.colourbox.com

fredklein's boat.
 
2013-02-03 05:36:45 PM
Your tax dollars.....
 
2013-02-03 05:37:35 PM

liam76: fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...

Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation,


::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

There. Maybe now you'll read it and understand what I'm actually saying.

it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation

Oh, no, that inflamed the situation alright. But it only happened because he turned back to confront her again for no reason.

 it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation,

Aw, poor baby, he got called a name!

I think it was Kindergarten when I learned "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".

it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No- it was the security guard deciding to go back for no reason.

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.

His job is needlessly confronting people so he can get in fights and tase people?
 
2013-02-03 05:40:33 PM

Mock26: 'Don't yell at my motherf***ing kids! You'll get beat!'

Priceless.  Reminds me of an incident I had a couple months ago at a McDonald's.  I was eating lunch and at the table behind me was a woman and her small child.  The woman was on her cell phone, lacing her conversation with a steady supply of profanity.  At one point I burped, out loud.  It was one of those unexpected burps that suddenly pop up and even though I did cover my mouth, it was still audible.  I quickly said, "Excuse me" to the woman, who had heard it.  She then starts yelling at me for being rude in front of her daughter!  And, of course, she is using profanity while yelling at me!   Sadly, I was not surprised in the least bit by her behavior.


It goes both ways. On a ride on BART a woman and her kids were signing to each other. We got off the train at the same station and she started talking to them. For some reason I mentioned to her about the signing. I was curious as to why if they could hear she was signing. She said she was being polite to the other passengers by signing and not talking loud. They learned to sign for this reason. I didn't know how to react but just said thanks and good job.
 
2013-02-03 05:41:59 PM
Thank God he is black.

Al sharpton would have a field day if he was white.

That being said, sometimes a billyclub is more affective at getting a point across.
 
2013-02-03 05:42:26 PM
I pretended I was playing a FPS during that video.
 
2013-02-03 05:44:24 PM

fredklein: liam76: Strawman? You see a substantial difference between "or whatever" and going to his office?

Yes. One is continuing to do his job, while the other is... hiding. He should continue to do his job. He should not hide.

He also should not needlessly aggravate the situation.

BTW, I said 'or whatever' because he may not have a route to patrol, he may instead have a post to man. In that case he wouldn't 'go back on patrol', since he has no patrol to go back on.

People are accusing you of being a troll because you have to be weapons grade stupid to think he is under some sort of obligation to walk away after he tells someone to leave and they leave.

Enlighten us, what should a security guard do when they kick some one out and... horror of horrors...the person actually leaves?

I would (and did!) answer 'go back to their job'.

If I was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is scurry away and not do anything to make sure they stayed away I would fire them.

And if *I* was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is walk away, then turn and walk back and get in a fight with the person, *I* would fire them.

Tell me how many times would he have to ask someone to leave before it made sense to make sure they didn't re-enter?

Once. But you seem to think the ONLY way to "make sure they didn't re-enter" is to walk away, then turn and walk back and get into a physical confrontation with them. I disagree.


Your first mistake was responding to people who quoted you as being a troll. Just stop. This website is turning into a bunch a kids that think they have won the argument by calling you a troll or doing things like 0/10.

Go on, pick a thread. It is happening in everything thread and not just to you. It's the same thing that is happening on youtube and all those idiots have some how discovered fark and they are taking over.

You could hold up pure gold to these people but you will always lose the argument because it goes against all the popular internet bullshiat of the day.
 
2013-02-03 05:45:08 PM

fredklein: liam76: Strawman? You see a substantial difference between "or whatever" and going to his office?

Yes. One is continuing to do his job, while the other is... hiding. He should continue to do his job. He should not hide.


Neither is doing his job.  Neither one ensures the lady stays out.

And if he "goes on patrol" he is hiding from the women.

fredklein: Enlighten us, what should a security guard do when they kick some one out and... horror of horrors...the person actually leaves?



Make sure they don't walk back in the second you turn around.

fredklein: I would (and did!) answer 'go back to their job'.


Doing their job is making sure they don't come back in.

fredklein: And if *I* was paying a security guard and the first thing they did after they booted someone out is walk away, then turn and walk back and get in a fight with the person, *I* would fire them.


Telling them to leave is getting in a fight?  Doing your job is getting in a fight?


fredklein: Once. But you seem to think the ONLY way to "make sure they didn't re-enter" is to walk away, then turn and walk back and get into a physical confrontation with them. I disagree.


That is a strawman.  I never said he should "get into" a physical altercation.  He should however have stayed in the area to make sure she didn't re-enter which he did.


fredklein: He also should not needlessly aggravate the situation.


I don't know how else to explain it to you, as many people have pointed out hiding in an office walking away with no way to tell if the woman comes back in isn't needlessly aggravating the situation it is doing his job.  If you are still too dumb to get that I give up.

My only concern now is how to shorten "security guards who don't go away immediately after they ask someone to leave are needlessly aggravating the situation"...may have to go with "idiot".
is no needlessly aggravating the situation.
 
2013-02-03 05:46:46 PM

thisiszombocom: hes the security guard the mall deserves, but not the one it needs right now.


So, we'll chase him... because he can tase 'em.
 
2013-02-03 05:48:03 PM
I nominate fredkleinfor Fark's Super Bowl Sunday Troll Badge of the Day
 
2013-02-03 05:49:44 PM

fredklein: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.


And?

Because there was nobody trespassing at that very second he had to leave the area?

The point is she inflamed it when she did trespass.  Him walking away would do nothing to prevent her from doing that anyway.  There are dozens of videos of scum in that area who do just that.  Are asked to leave, he walks away and they are back 2 minutes later.  Even without that it is profoundly stupid to think that he should just cross his fingers and hope obnoxious biatches like that will not come back.

Done wasting my time with an idiot.
 
2013-02-03 05:50:17 PM

jtown: Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?


Assault *and* battery.

Buddy of mine was in a college law enforcement class, and they had a local official in that day who was previously a local sheriff. He was covering assault that day, and used my buddy as the example. He said "assault is threatening to hit someone, and battery is actually making contact." He makes a fist, cocks his arm back, looks at my buddy and says "This is assault..." then punches him in the shoulder. "And this is battery." He pulls back again - "assault" - punches again - "battery". Pulls back again - "assault" - and this time, buddy catches his fist in mid-swing and says "self-defense".
 
2013-02-03 05:50:46 PM

liam76: fredklein: You missed where he specifically told her "Get your kids, get your children". Like Liam76, you have some good cop logic there: "Freeze!" "Get down on the ground! "Don't move!"

So now you are justifying her attack because you think she was confused about him saying "leave" and "get your children"?


Not at all. I'm justifying her coming back to the mall entrance. Some people

Elegy: YOU: At :36 her kids come back on the property along with their mother, who has already been told to leave.



seem to think that her coming back justified what the guard did, (ie: 'the guard went back because she came back in the mall') but since he specifically told her to come back, this does not hold water. That's all.

I know this lady doesn't display the most intelligence, but it is pretty clear that those two phrases mean to "leave with you children" not "come on in and attack me."

And she needs to "get" her kids in order to leave with them. And they are on mall property. Thus, she needs to enter mall property to "get" them. Thus, her entering mall property was a direct result of the guards order to 'get your kids'. Thus, her entering mall property cannot be held against her.


You know, maybe I'm not making myself clear. So I'll dumb it down for everyone:

The guard had every right to kick her out. He had every right to kick her kids out. he had every right to keep her and her kids out. She was wrong to hit him.* All these things I agree with you on.

My ONLY point is that the physical confrontation would not have happened if he had not needlessly gone back to the entrance when he did.

*although I still see a shadow on the left of the video that could be his arm. And I still say he grabbed her tit.
 
2013-02-03 05:52:08 PM

fredklein: The guard had every right to kick her out. He had every right to kick her kids out. he had every right to keep her and her kids out. She was wrong to hit him.* All these things I agree with you on.

My ONLY point is that the physical confrontation would not have happened if he had not needlessly gone back to the entrance when he did.


And how do you expect he would have been able to exercise the right which you say he had, to keep her out, if he had just walked away?
 
2013-02-03 05:52:51 PM

Wise_Guy: So I guess if someone walked into your house or business and you told them to leave


...and they left...

then, yes, i would go back to whatever I was doing. The situation is over. They left. What am I supposed to do?
 
2013-02-03 05:54:35 PM
What a horrible job that guy has. Worthless scumbag drug dealers, screaming shrill self important smack talking welfare mothers with 10 kids cursing and fighting with him, and nobody, nobody there to help him. This is exactly why i moved out of the big city. Our nice local mall turned into a haven for just these kind of people, and crime in the mall increased exponentially. But at least there, the guards had help, this poor bastard is on his own. Pity he has to lower himself to gutter trash talk to deal with these people,he seems to be more intelligent than that, but i guess that he thinks it's the only thing they understand. Drug dealers in and around the mall like farking flies. What a cesspool. There is no way....none, that i would EVER have a store there. All you would have to look forward to is fights, gang violence, getting ripped off, and held up. The store owners there didn't look to eager to comply and help him, they seemed scared of the gangs, and i can't blame them. This guy really needs some help.
 
2013-02-03 05:54:50 PM

fredklein: If he kept walking, there would have been no 'charging' or other physical confrontation. This is my one and only point.


No, if she wasn't acting like a stupid biatch there wouldn't have been a physical confrontation. It's the guys job to make sure people like her don't come back inside once removed. He needs to be at the door to do that. Your one and only point is a total load of shiat.
 
2013-02-03 05:55:01 PM

crack-fiend: fredklein:  If she had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back. If the kids had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back.

At the time he turned back, neither of these was true.

Ummm...How would he know that they re-entered the mall if he wasn't facing them.  Logic....do you have it?


Then why did he turn around, facing away from the entrance, and walk away from it to begin with? Logic, did HE have it?

And it is possible to turn in place and look at a doorway without walking over to it.
 
2013-02-03 05:58:07 PM

bikkurikun: The woman and the kids are still lingering and shouting abuse outside the entrance,


And if he walks away and ignores them, they would most likely leave.

and the kids are going back inside at the same time that he turns around.

Again, walking toward the entrance is not the same as entering.

He has to turn around to check if they are leaving or coming back in,

Which is fine. Turn, look. See them outside. Turn back, keep going.
 
2013-02-03 06:02:12 PM

liam76: I don't know how else to explain it to you, as many people have pointed out hiding in an office walking away with no way to tell if the woman comes back in isn't needlessly aggravating the situation it is doing his job.


Then stand there and watch the door. There is no need to walk back to the door until and unless she tries coming back in. Which she wasn't trying.
 
2013-02-03 06:03:11 PM

fredklein: bikkurikun: The woman and the kids are still lingering and shouting abuse outside the entrance,

And if he walks away and ignores them, they would most likely leave.

and the kids are going back inside at the same time that he turns around.

Again, walking toward the entrance is not the same as entering.

He has to turn around to check if they are leaving or coming back in,

Which is fine. Turn, look. See them outside. Turn back, keep going.

You made your point.  After that you should have turned your back and left this thread.  Instead you keep posting and needlessly aggravating the situation.

 
2013-02-03 06:03:50 PM

ha-ha-guy: You have a lot of approved links for a troll account.



Please don't further dilute the meaning of "troll." This guy isn't trolling, he's a genuine, defiant little authority-hater.
 
2013-02-03 06:04:51 PM

srhp29: I'm not familiar with this mall, but usually when you walk outside of a Mall you are not "off mall property". Can't say whether or not that is the case here though.


Probably been answered but it looks like a public sidewalk outside the mall to me.
 
2013-02-03 06:05:23 PM

fredklein: ::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.


Look at the video again. When he turned back (as he of course had to do to check if they were staying out), the woman was still blocking the entrance shouting and therefore being a nuisance to the other customers. More importantly, you can easily see in the video that at the same moment he turns around, the kids are already in the entrance heading inside. This is why he walks a few staps back to entrance and asks the mother to take her kids and leave. Instead of doing that, as she supposed to do, the woman gets in the man's face and continues hurling abuse at him.  She should have just shut up and left, and the guard shows amazing restraint. He did an excellent job.

I really have no idea why you feel the need to protect this disgusting excuse for human being and diss on a man who is actually (read the interviews with him) doing his best to clean up the area from criminals and scumbags.
 
2013-02-03 06:06:08 PM
WTF?  I quote and respond and my comment winds up in italics too?  Something is really oddball with the forums today.

I guess I'd better preview everything before posting now.
 
2013-02-03 06:06:28 PM

liam76: fredklein: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

And?


And thus there was no reason for him to go back to the door and get in a confrontation.

Because there was nobody trespassing at that very second he had to leave the area?
Not at all. It's not about what he "had" to do. it's about what he chose to do.

i>The point is she inflamed it when she did trespass.


She only came back into the mall because he specifically told her to "get your kids".
 
2013-02-03 06:08:48 PM

srhp29: And how do you expect he would have been able to exercise the right which you say he had, to keep her out, if he had just walked away?


No one is saying he 'had to walk away'. He could have chosen to stand where he was and keep an eye on the door.

Besides, how do you account for the fact the DID start to walk away?
 
2013-02-03 06:09:47 PM

Iplaybass: It's the guys job to make sure people like her don't come back inside once removed. He needs to be at the door to do that.


Then why was he walking away from the door at first?
 
2013-02-03 06:10:08 PM
Lay off the alcohol. Your posts are becoming unreadable.
 
2013-02-03 06:10:38 PM

skinink: Maybe her kids will learn not to act like an idiot in public.


Loucifer: I think those kids are much better off for witnessing that. Perhaps they will learn the lesson that behavior like that has consequences.


Elegy: My first thought was "those kids received an excellent object lesson in being polite and civil today. Good job mom"



Sadly, no. All they'll learn is to rabidly and violently hate authority and anyone who "disrespects" them, and that it's better to shoot those people first so that they won't "get caught."
 
2013-02-03 06:13:39 PM

skinink: "Guy really didn't need to taser the lady in front of her kids. "

Those kids were as poorly behaved as the mother who didn't have enough sense to watch over her kids instead of trying to look tough by abusing a rent a cop. If she felt she was in the right, she could have easily called the cops herself. Instead she just wanted to make a scene. Maybe her kids will learn not to act like an idiot in public.

I felt bad for laughing at the mother being tasered, because she fell right down like a two-by-four.


Dont feel bad... she got what she was asking for...

I bet her lips were vibrating at least 400 Hz as she went down.
 
2013-02-03 06:15:33 PM

Puff The Destroyer: Every piece of shiat in that video should be shot in the head. The "mother" and her pimp. The kids are young enough where they can be saved.


Yes they could I have seen it in a movie

<img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEkFUXG36hm qbGrdw0SjssCdJPBZzXGYnwUb2162_HPGi6ph-HHw">
 
2013-02-03 06:18:16 PM

bikkurikun: Look at the video again. When he turned back (as he of course had to do to check if they were staying out), the woman was still blocking the entrance shouting and therefore being a nuisance to the other customers. More importantly, you can easily see in the video that at the same moment he turns around, the kids are already in the entrance heading inside.


She is well out onto the (presumably) public sidewalk. The kids are heading toward the door, but not in it yet.


I really have no idea why you feel the need to protect this disgusting excuse for human being and diss on a man who is actually (read the interviews with him) doing his best to clean up the area from criminals and scumbags.


I'm not protecting her. She's a biatch. All I'm saying is that the guard could have handled it differently, instead of the was he did. He could have chosen to watch the door and not actually go to it until she trespassed. If he had done that, and it still escalated to tasing, I'd be right there laughing my head off as the biatch made like a tree and timber'd. | / _
 
2013-02-03 06:20:13 PM

fredklein: Iplaybass: It's the guys job to make sure people like her don't come back inside once removed. He needs to be at the door to do that.

Then why was he walking away from the door at first?


I have no idea why he was doing it. But it doesn't matter. It's completely irrelevant. You are hung up on some minor detail that in no way supports your argument or proves your point. The only reason a physical confrontation occurred was because the woman initiated one. End of story.

I'm starting to think your obsession with irrelevant minutiae, and inability to see how stupid your argument is, may be evidence of autism...?
 
2013-02-03 06:20:19 PM
 
2013-02-03 06:22:19 PM

fredklein: No one is saying he 'had to walk away'.


fredklein: No, he should have kicked her out, then, once she was out, walked away


 
2013-02-03 06:23:16 PM
Mammy hit the ground faster than Trevon Martin.
 
2013-02-03 06:28:17 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


www.themovies.co.za

What you've just said is one the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on Fark is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-02-03 06:29:59 PM
When "Keeping It Real!" goes wrong. *shrugs*
 
2013-02-03 06:32:25 PM

fozziewazzi: I'm confused, what's this donation for?  Did he get fired?


TFA says it's to buy him "more equipment."  I'm rooting for Rottweilers.
 
2013-02-03 06:34:40 PM

BigNumber12: ha-ha-guy: You have a lot of approved links for a troll account.


Please don't further dilute the meaning of "troll." This guy isn't trolling, he's a genuine, defiant little authority-hater.


Just put him on ignore.  It works for the security guard!  And yes, I am equating the Farker's actions with that of the Atlanta sewer rats that we are all agog over.  All are attention whoring sociopaths.
 
2013-02-03 06:38:37 PM

Allen. The end.: logicalman: Obviously, core Obama supporters/voters. No surprises here. Stay classy Obama sycophants!

Oh shut up, ya troll.


LOL...no trollin', just truth tellin. The truth is the truth, no matter how embarrassing it is.
 
2013-02-03 06:40:43 PM

liam76: fredklein: No one is saying he 'had to walk away'.

fredklein: No, he should have kicked her out, then, once she was out, walked away


Firstly, nice selective quoting.

Second, I never said he "had" to, I said he "should have".
 
2013-02-03 06:41:54 PM
*sigh*
The messed up part is that we'll probably be reading this guy's obituary in a month. Some gangbanger (probably one of this woman's baby-daddies) might try taking a shot at him.
 
2013-02-03 06:43:47 PM

fredklein: What he should not have done is turn back as he did. If she had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back. If the kids had re-entered the mall, then he would have been justified in turning back.

At the time he turned back, neither of these was true.


I just watched the video again.  So should you.

He was facing away from the door when he spotted the guy in the yellow shirt and told him to leave.  He turned to watch yellow-shirt leave, not to confront the woman again.   When he turned, one of the kids was already back in the store, running his mouth, and the others were following him.

Then the guard started repeating, "Get yours kids" to the woman.  Instead of calling her kids and leaving, she marched right past her kids to get in the guard's face, well inside the mall.

He did nothing wrong.
 
2013-02-03 06:47:06 PM
cdn.smosh.com
 
2013-02-03 06:52:08 PM

Ed Finnerty: One man's reaction.


Holy shizzle, this video is hilarious. Thanks for the link. I wonder if Tosh.O would do a Web Redemption of this.
 
2013-02-03 06:53:14 PM

GopherGuts: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x478]

/approves


I love that movie.


Oh yeah, I watched the video.
He deserves $200,000
 
2013-02-03 06:53:38 PM

BarkingUnicorn: He was facing away from the door when he spotted the guy in the yellow shirt and told him to leave.


Is there anyone who IS allowed in the mall? I mean, every time this guard turns around, there's another banned person.
 
2013-02-03 06:59:48 PM
<i>The confrontation gets increasingly tense as the woman refuses to move back from the mall, starts shouting racial slurs and encourages the young children to join in the abuse. </i>

I couldn't make out anything she was shrieking.  What were the racial slurs?  Everyone involved appears to be attractive and successful African American.
 
2013-02-03 07:00:50 PM

Bondith: <i>The confrontation gets increasingly tense as the woman refuses to move back from the mall, starts shouting racial slurs and encourages the young children to join in the abuse. </i>

I couldn't make out anything she was shrieking.  What were the racial slurs?  Everyone involved appears to be attractive and successful African American.


They were calling him white.

At one point they were also calling him gay.
 
2013-02-03 07:09:49 PM

fredklein: liam76: fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...

Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation,

::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

There. Maybe now you'll read it and understand what I'm actually saying.

it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation

Oh, no, that inflamed the situation alright. But it only happened because he turned back to confront her again for no reason.

 it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation,

Aw, poor baby, he got called a name!

I think it was Kindergarten when I learned "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".

it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No- it was the security guard deciding to go back for no reason.

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.

His job is needlessly confronting people so he can get in fights and tase people?


The reason that the security guard turned around was because the baby's father had walked past him and he turned around to make sure that the baby's father was leaving as well.  That's when he saw the children and told the mother to get her children. The security guard was justified.
 
2013-02-03 07:17:10 PM

thenewmissus: fredklein: liam76: fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...

Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation,

::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

There. Maybe now you'll read it and understand what I'm actually saying.

it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation

Oh, no, that inflamed the situation alright. But it only happened because he turned back to confront her again for no reason.

 it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation,

Aw, poor baby, he got called a name!

I think it was Kindergarten when I learned "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".

it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No- it was the security guard deciding to go back for no reason.

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.

His job is needlessly confronting people so he can get in fights and tase people?

The reason that the security guard turned around was because the baby's father had walked past him and he turned around to make sure that the baby's father was leaving as well.  That's when he saw the children and told the mother to get her children. The security guard was justified.


I retract that statement. It was a different guy. Not the guy who claims to be the baby's father. My mistake.  I make those occasionally. So I've been told. But I don't usually listen to my ex-husband. ;)
 
2013-02-03 07:20:10 PM

liam76: Bondith: <i>The confrontation gets increasingly tense as the woman refuses to move back from the mall, starts shouting racial slurs and encourages the young children to join in the abuse. </i>

I couldn't make out anything she was shrieking.  What were the racial slurs?  Everyone involved appears to be attractive and successful African American.

They were calling him white.

At one point they were also calling him gay.


I find it interesting that in the children's world, white and gay are the two epithets the kids can muster. Presumably white and gay are the two worst things to be in their world.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is one of the reasons I stand up and scream "racism isn't that simple in the south" when the Fark Union Army stands up and blames "illiterate white racist homophobic rednecks" for all of the US's problems.

Framing it this way willfully ignores the fact that homophobia and racism are just as ingrained in the black community, and that community - which makes up a plurality or majority of populations through much of the south - is just as parochial, insular an intractable relative to the more "modern" areas of the US as the white rednecks.
 
2013-02-03 07:22:05 PM

fredklein: BarkingUnicorn: He was facing away from the door when he spotted the guy in the yellow shirt and told him to leave.

Is there anyone who IS allowed in the mall? I mean, every time this guard turns around, there's another banned person.


I saw lots of customers passing  in and out without incident.

But go ahead and try to deflect attention from the fact that your bullshiat is busted.
 
hej
2013-02-03 07:24:05 PM

orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?


0/10.  Might have given you 1 of 10 if you would have stopped with the 1st sentence.
 
2013-02-03 07:26:24 PM

Elegy: liam76: Bondith: <i>The confrontation gets increasingly tense as the woman refuses to move back from the mall, starts shouting racial slurs and encourages the young children to join in the abuse. </i>

I couldn't make out anything she was shrieking.  What were the racial slurs?  Everyone involved appears to be attractive and successful African American.

They were calling him white.

At one point they were also calling him gay.

I find it interesting that in the children's world, white and gay are the two epithets the kids can muster. Presumably white and gay are the two worst things to be in their world.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is one of the reasons I stand up and scream "racism isn't that simple in the south" when the Fark Union Army stands up and blames "illiterate white racist homophobic rednecks" for all of the US's problems.

Framing it this way willfully ignores the fact that homophobia and racism are just as ingrained in the black community, and that community - which makes up a plurality or majority of populations through much of the south - is just as parochial, insular an intractable relative to the more "modern" areas of the US as the white rednecks.



That kind of talk will frequently get you shouted down as a "racist" here on Fark.
 
2013-02-03 07:27:05 PM

thenewmissus: fredklein: liam76: fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...

Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation,

::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

There. Maybe now you'll read it and understand what I'm actually saying.

it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation

Oh, no, that inflamed the situation alright. But it only happened because he turned back to confront her again for no reason.

 it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation,

Aw, poor baby, he got called a name!

I think it was Kindergarten when I learned "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".

it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No- it was the security guard deciding to go back for no reason.

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.

His job is needlessly confronting people so he can get in fights and tase people?

The reason that the security guard turned around was because the baby's father had walked past him and he turned around to make sure that the baby's father was leaving as well.  That's when he saw the children and told the mother to get her children. The security guard was justified.


In the longer version he turns away a couple of times.  The first time, I think he was tossing a pepsi bottle away.  After that I think he was trying to give her chance to cool and leave.  If he stayed there the whole time, she would've escalated faster.  Also, I don't think his jurisdiction of his job ends at the door.  A business does have control and responsibility over the immediate area in front of the entrance, which she and her entourage clearly was blocking any other customers from using.  Example: the girl scouts selling cookies in front of stores have to have permission before setting up.  If they cause a problem and the store gets complaints they can have them leave.  I have seen this happen and know of stores refusing to allow groups from setting up.
 
2013-02-03 07:32:22 PM

thenewmissus: fredklein: liam76: fredklein: Wise_Guy: He doesn't h ave to justify turning back, you fool.

It was his going back that inflamed the situation more and led to the physical confrontation. i would think that a guards would be charged with defusing situations, not making them worse. But, silly me...

Oh so it wasn't the lady who was breaking the law by trespassing that inflamed the situation,

::sigh:: WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

Do I need to bold it, too? I will, anyway:

WHEN THE GUARD TURNED BACK AT :32, THERE WAS NO ONE TRESPASSING.

There. Maybe now you'll read it and understand what I'm actually saying.

it wasn't the lady who assaulted him that inflamed the situation

Oh, no, that inflamed the situation alright. But it only happened because he turned back to confront her again for no reason.

 it wasn't the lady who was having her kids call him gay that inflamed the situation,

Aw, poor baby, he got called a name!

I think it was Kindergarten when I learned "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".

it was the security guard doing his job?!?!?

No- it was the security guard deciding to go back for no reason.

No not "silly you," "stupid you" to think he should have not done his job.

His job is needlessly confronting people so he can get in fights and tase people?

The reason that the security guard turned around was because the baby's father had walked past him and he turned around to make sure that the baby's father was leaving as well.  That's when he saw the children and told the mother to get her children. The security guard was justified.


Well, that makes sense. I don't recall hearing about this baby-daddy before, though.
 
2013-02-03 07:32:58 PM

thenewmissus: I retract that statement. It was a different guy. Not the guy who claims to be the baby's father. My mistake. I make those occasionally. So I've been told. But I don't usually listen to my ex-husband. ;)


..hmm, Maybe that's why. :-)
 
2013-02-03 07:36:32 PM
What I cannot see here is why she was asked to leave in the first place.     I also could not see any talking, just yelling and yelling over people.

 Now I am probably being ignorant because I do note many videos where by people seem  unable to communicate with the use of time honored techniques of listening and speaking in a calm voice.  These people seem only able to yell over each other,  stick their chest out and close their ears and sadly they always seem to be black.


So I need to ask this question of the Black members on Fark.  Why are there so many videos of Black people and I will admit mostly women, acting as if they don't have the brains they were born with?    I work with people of many races and some black and they are intelligent so why do this?   Why act as if you are unable to control yourself?   Now I am sure other people of other races can be just as out of control but yet with cameras everywhere it always seems to be Black women who are shot acting like out of control idiots with  retarded cognitive functionality.

Please stop it.
 
2013-02-03 07:38:21 PM
" Overzealous " huh? i was amazed at the amount of self restraint he showed before and after. or are you just trolling, subby?
 
2013-02-03 07:41:06 PM

BigNumber12: That kind of talk will frequently get you shouted down as a "racist" here on Fark.


Yeah, but I slipped it in towards the back of a dying thread son only the srs people interest in srs conversation would see it.

/learning a few tricks in my own age
 
2013-02-03 07:42:02 PM

Elegy: BigNumber12: That kind of talk will frequently get you shouted down as a "racist" here on Fark.

Yeah, but I slipped it in towards the back of a dying thread son only the srs people interest in srs conversation would see it.

/learning a few tricks in my ownold age


FTFM
 
2013-02-03 07:55:26 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-03 08:05:07 PM
"So I need to ask this question of the Black members on Fark..."

Please go back to Stormfront. I'm sure this is the response you were looking for/expecting.

Drew, I know trolling is good for views on your site, but modminds are gonna let stupid stuff like his comment above slide?
 
2013-02-03 08:18:27 PM
 
2013-02-03 08:20:12 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).


And she came back on the property to assault him. He never left property. When you tell someone to leave you don't just turn around and walk away. Yoh monitor them until they leave the area.
 
2013-02-03 08:22:31 PM
Yup, Chris Rock was dead right. There's black folk, and then there's...

Do they even speak English anymore? The mall cop was the only one I could understand.
 
2013-02-03 08:41:14 PM
At the end of the day, she was the one charged with multiple crimes.

There's video evidence of all of the guard's actions.   The guard has not been charged with any crime.

All she had to do was go away, stay away, and keep her kids away.  She didn't even have to shut up about it.

Those kids kinda bothered me.  I worry that this experience, with or without the tasing, will lead to a lot more trouble in their lives.  Their mother is entirely responsible for today's lesson.  Let's see what kind of life they lead.  The kids of the Westboro Baptist Church also bother me in the same way.  All I can do is raise mine.
 
2013-02-03 08:48:57 PM

MrHappyRotter: If the security guard had brought all his kids and kids' baby daddies to work with him, they could have had an awesome sing-a-long street brawl ala West Side Story and nobody would have been tazed.


QUALITY TROLLING
 
2013-02-03 08:52:09 PM

hej: orbister: I'm astonished to find that security goons now apparently have the right to tase people who insult him. Can he shoot them, too, or do they need to be carrying bags of Skittles for that to be OK?

0/10.  Might have given you 1 of 10 if you would have stopped with the 1st sentence.


This is the kind right here. This is what I am talking about.

Do you see how this kind of response gives absolutely no substance whether you agree with the person being quoted or not?

If you can't respond to people without calling them a troll or grading them on an internet hero's grade scale then don't do it.
 
2013-02-03 08:52:50 PM
Trolling is a big part of the FARK show. Without it I'd have to read Reuters for the news and Fox for the entertainment. Here... we have it all
 
2013-02-03 08:56:25 PM

skinink: "So I need to ask this question of the Black members on Fark..."

Please go back to Stormfront. I'm sure this is the response you were looking for/expecting.

Drew, I know trolling is good for views on your site, but modminds are gonna let stupid stuff like his comment above slide?


No the question is genuine.  I constantly see videos showing Black women behaving in the way this woman was and with people talking over each other.   I need to understand why this occurs so often.  Should I ask white people for the answer?   I believe they would not know I need the people of the same race to give their opinion.

They do not seem to be an irregular occurrence whereby I can deduce that it is just something that hardly occurs.  It occurs that often that there must be something in the way they are bought up or cultural education within certain areas  that causes this behavior and I would genuinely like to know what it is?
 
2013-02-03 09:01:31 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: What a horrible job that guy has. Worthless scumbag drug dealers, screaming shrill self important smack talking welfare mothers with 10 kids cursing and fighting with him, and nobody, nobody there to help him. This is exactly why i moved out of the big city. Our nice local mall turned into a haven for just these kind of people, and crime in the mall increased exponentially. But at least there, the guards had help, this poor bastard is on his own. Pity he has to lower himself to gutter trash talk to deal with these people,he seems to be more intelligent than that, but i guess that he thinks it's the only thing they understand. Drug dealers in and around the mall like farking flies. What a cesspool. There is no way....none, that i would EVER have a store there. All you would have to look forward to is fights, gang violence, getting ripped off, and held up. The store owners there didn't look to eager to comply and help him, they seemed scared of the gangs, and i can't blame them. This guy really needs some help.


I don't think those are actual gang members.  They strike me as the type who buy retail from gang members and re-sell at the mall.  I'd elaborate but I'd come off all gecko45.
 
2013-02-03 09:04:11 PM

BigNumber12: skinink: Maybe her kids will learn not to act like an idiot in public.

Loucifer: I think those kids are much better off for witnessing that. Perhaps they will learn the lesson that behavior like that has consequences.

Elegy: My first thought was "those kids received an excellent object lesson in being polite and civil today. Good job mom"


Sadly, no. All they'll learn is to rabidly and violently hate authority and anyone who "disrespects" them, and that it's better to shoot those people first so that they won't "get caught."


The kids seemed to change behavior as soon as it was apparent the Mom was going to get it.  Sad... they have seen it at home and know how it will play out.
 
2013-02-03 09:15:55 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk www.blastr.com


We have discovered your secret identity!

Mild-mannered, diplomatic Costumed Superhero "Real" by night, SUPER SECURITY GUARD HERO BY DAY!!!
 
2013-02-03 09:26:28 PM
I guess not that many of you Farkers care in the first place, but for me it's always nice to see the stupid comments to help me put people on Ignore. It makes the threads stop resembling a YouTube thread.
 
2013-02-03 09:27:04 PM

skinink: I guess not that many of you Farkers care in the first place, but for me it's always nice to see the stupid comments to help me put people on Ignore. It makes the threads stop resembling a YouTube thread.


You won't be missed.
 
2013-02-03 09:33:47 PM

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Not News on Reddit last week: Abusive woman refuses to leave local mall. News: Overzealous security guard tasers her, catching it all on video. Fark: Gets a $20,000 tip from fans on the internet for itleft in the dust once again by Reddit

FTFY, Subtard


Go and stay at Reddit.  Be gone.
 
2013-02-03 09:43:11 PM
Wow fark, just wow.  There's a video yet everyone is seeing things differently.

Video Starts:
Woman biatching
Guard telling her to stay out
0:28 Guard Turns around and walks away
0:32 Guard Tells boyfriend "Get out dog, leave" then turns to watch guy leave
0:35 Guard Sees kids in the doorway tells woman "Get your children"
0:45 Woman chest bumps into guard, guard pushes her back and tells her "You better back it up"
0:50-1:01 Woman takes a swing and initiates more physical contact with guard
1:02 Woman is tazed
1:28 Boyfriend then threatens guard

As far as I'm concerned, the guy is completely justified in pushing her back after she initiated physical contact.  At least in terms of law enforcement, you don't allow someone to invade your personal space like that...it's dangerous.  She was definitely the aggressor and he had a right to be defensive.  In terms of tazing her, he's completely justified so long as he's following Georgia law and the mall's security policies.

Since the woman was charged with disorderly conduct, criminal trespassing, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and simple battery; it's clear he was following policy AND the law.

I can see why the guard keeps a video camera on...otherwise, he'd be the guy in trouble.
 
2013-02-03 09:58:02 PM

sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her


So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.
 
2013-02-03 10:06:59 PM

Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.



And now she's passing that same life, those same sorts of wounds and values, onto the next generation. Rather than saying "my childhood was terrible, I want to be better than that for my own kids." Nice work, Mom!
 
2013-02-03 10:07:52 PM

Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.


Yeah, our priorities are farked up.  I wouldn't let a dog suffer like she's suffering.
 
2013-02-03 10:17:42 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.

Yeah, our priorities are farked up.  I wouldn't let a dog suffer like she's suffering.


I am big on capital punishment, 3 strike laws and someones right to defend themselves against an aggressor... the fact that she is so badly hurt doesn't give license to her behavior, but our failure as a society to provide support for such people is horrible.

We will throw stupid disgusting handouts her way all day long, but help her? Teach her? Make her independent and capable? We fail.

Problem is I don't know how to do that without violating other basic liberties, and we can't have the discussion because of farking libs who want to keep people dependent.
 
2013-02-03 10:19:39 PM

fredklein: BarkingUnicorn: He was facing away from the door when he spotted the guy in the yellow shirt and told him to leave.

Is there anyone who IS allowed in the mall? I mean, every time this guard turns around, there's another banned person.


Might be a stack of pictures of shoplifters, dope dealers, prostitutes, pimps, ... all with formal trespass warnings in the office.
 
2013-02-03 10:31:15 PM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


So, you would not do your job?
 
2013-02-03 10:42:32 PM

Aeon Rising: BarkingUnicorn: Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.

Yeah, our priorities are farked up.  I wouldn't let a dog suffer like she's suffering.

I am big on capital punishment, 3 strike laws and someones right to defend themselves against an aggressor... the fact that she is so badly hurt doesn't give license to her behavior, but our failure as a society to provide support for such people is horrible.

We will throw stupid disgusting handouts her way all day long, but help her? Teach her? Make her independent and capable? We fail.

Problem is I don't know how to do that without violating other basic liberties, and we can't have the discussion because of farking libs who want to keep people dependent.


You've got some weird contradictory thoughts... just like everyone else.  Sometimes I'm a social Darwinist, and at other times I'm the all-compasionate Buddha.

I have no excuse; I don't even drink or do drugs! :-)
 
2013-02-03 10:45:03 PM

Mock26: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

So, you would not do your job?


He's in the UK, where that would be his job.
 
2013-02-03 11:15:09 PM

orbister: OBBN: Yeah, yeah, America bad. America violent. Funny how the rest off the world doesn't mind our guns when they need to be rescued from some two bit dictator.

Not really. It's just a really alien idea to me, that's all. However, since you raise it, if you people had been a bit less ready to use your guns, and to sell them to any two-bit dictator who could say "But communism", the world might be a bit more stable than it is. Not that our lovely British arms industry is a paragon of virtue, but we haven't been quite as overt about making arming dictators a central part of public policy. How did supporting the mujahideen and Saddam Hussein work out for you

liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


If you're not from here, then please stop pretending like you have a clue what it's like here. I don't come and say shiat about your country. You need to step it back.
 
2013-02-03 11:16:25 PM
Wow....she was acting like a Maury guest out there. I always assume day time talk shows are fake as hell, mostly to preserve my own sanity.
 
2013-02-03 11:27:44 PM

orbister: liam76: Where do you live where everybody always listens to security guards and never attacks them, or if they are attacked they have no right to self defense.

The UK. security guards here have exactly the same rights as other private citizens, and that most emphatically does not include carrying or using tasers. Had he just turned his back on her and walked away, would anything have happened? There may possibly be methods of self defence which don't include shooting people.


So, let us say that this happened in the UK.  The woman and/or her husband were behaving in an inappropriate manner in a shopping center and the security guard asked them to leave, but once outside they tried to come back in.  What would a UK security guard do?  Just stand aside and let them come back in?  And before you say, "Call the cops," take into consideration that this happened in a really bad neighborhood and this type of an incident happens all the time and there is a chance that the cops might not be able to make it there for 15, 30, or even 60 or more minutes.  So, again, what would a UK security guard do when repeatedly confronted with people like this?
 
2013-02-03 11:33:46 PM

GopherGuts: (Checks to see if Georgia honors my carry permit... No? Oh, well...)
Not going to Atlanta, or to that farking shiathole mall, ever.


What exactly is it like to be so terrified of everything?  Wow.
 
2013-02-03 11:52:59 PM
Fark her.  Act like an animal, get the cattle prod.
 
2013-02-04 12:17:44 AM
Boo got tased?
 
2013-02-04 01:04:56 AM

Tourney3p0: GopherGuts: (Checks to see if Georgia honors my carry permit... No? Oh, well...)
Not going to Atlanta, or to that farking shiathole mall, ever.

What exactly is it like to be so terrified of everything?  Wow.


You where your seatbelt whenever you drive, right?  So what exactly is it like to be so terrified of driving?
 
2013-02-04 01:19:08 AM

Mock26: orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

So, you would not do your job?


He'd do the same thing the Devon-based Anti-Piracy Maritime Security Solutions guards did when confronted with actual pirates... run away and abandon the people who hired him.

/never hire UK security guards for anything
//unless you need the water around your cargo ship tinted yellow as they swim away
 
2013-02-04 01:52:13 AM

crabsno termites: orclover: really drew wtf is with this shiatty new system?

second.



Agreed. However manynded.
I cannot post from my phone or browser without hitting "Use Formatting Buttons". If I try it farks up and whenI backspace my browser quits working and shuts off. Also, sentences look like (going to try and use the new system to make my next post):
 
2013-02-04 01:59:04 AM
It was all animal dominance games.  Every bit of it.  One defending a den (nest, whatever) from others.  The others were looking for weaknesses to exploit.  If he had retreated, he would have been showing weakness.  The others knew what his territory encompassed, and made full use of it, and tested him by entering his territory and seeing if he would attack.  The female pursued her attack; it was met with force, but drew her male into the confrontation, but he did nothing more than puff his chest out.

All humans no matter their color are animals, and display the same behavior.
 
2013-02-04 02:03:39 AM
Therewere a ccouple of errors in my last post. I meant hitting "use html buttons" and it 's my phone and tablet that are screwing up, not the phone and browser. There is a huge lag when I ty andit constan tly rejects links I try to pthe slider bars do not work and my cursor moves out of view i cannot move thencursor to the end of the page with the touching and moing the cursor. I can type blog nd but that doesn't allow me to see any errors I am making with this  stupid touchpad device. ost The lag causes letters to drop and backspacing quickly causes a cr ash. Sometimes I get double letters popping up when I am in a bad serv ice areaarrgh
 
2013-02-04 02:10:57 AM

GWSuperfan: Remember seeing this video a week ago or so. Amazing restraint showed by the guard.

The two females are walking arguments for selective sterilization.


Yeah as opposed to cop video from 2-3 years ago where he tells a kid he's pulled over something like SIXTY TIMES to turn around so he can be cuffed.

The cop FINALLY tazes the kid and the kid sues. And WINS! WTF?!?!
It was all on video and some morons on a jury say the cop was wrong to taze him.
Hell I probably would have shot the kid for 1) not obeying after SIXTY requests and 2) on principle
 
2013-02-04 02:18:00 AM

orbister: jtown: Assault.  The word is assault.  When she came back on the property and started swinging, it became an assault.  Or is that battery?

I'm still amazed. Maybe it makes sense in a country where shooting people is in general OK. Over here he would be locked up for a good long time just for carrying a taser.


You think that in the US shooting people is generally OK?
You sir are a farking moron - know little about the US and what you do know is wrong.
Idiot.
 
2013-02-04 04:23:35 AM

Aeon Rising: BarkingUnicorn: Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.

Yeah, our priorities are farked up.  I wouldn't let a dog suffer like she's suffering.

I am big on capital punishment, 3 strike laws and someones right to defend themselves against an aggressor... the fact that she is so badly hurt doesn't give license to her behavior, but our failure as a society to provide support for such people is horrible.

We will throw stupid disgusting handouts her way all day long, but help her? Teach her? Make her independent and capable? We fail.

Problem is I don't know how to do that without violating other basic liberties, and we can't have the discussion because of farking libs who want to keep people dependent.


Here's one solution:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/364/going-big
Children in bad environments have a much harder time learning basic social skills like mutual respect and impulse control. What's worse, after a certain point it's almost impossible to learn those skills. Programs like the one described in the article are making a significant and measurable difference.
 
2013-02-04 05:06:32 AM

Hickory-smoked: Children in bad environments have a much harder time learning basic social skills like mutual respect and impulse control. What's worse, after a certain point it's almost impossible to learn those skills. Programs like the one described in the article are making a significant and measurable difference.


They can't be taught, but they can be trained.
 
2013-02-04 05:30:22 AM
Impressed.

i232.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-04 06:26:05 AM
Guest:  Now I am probably being ignorant because I do note many videos where by people seem  unable to communicate with the use of time honored techniques of listening and speaking in a calm voice.  These people seem only able to yell over each other,  stick their chest out and close their ears and sadly they always seem to be black.

You've described a typical episode of "Jersey Shore". I never realized they were black; I thought those were just bad tans.
 
2013-02-04 08:17:48 AM
You know what submitter??

farkKK  YOUUUU!!

Overzealous cop...pffft.
 
2013-02-04 08:54:13 AM
Unless she was doing something where shooting her with a gun would have been acceptable, then tazering her isn't acceptable.  fark this normalization of using tazers for every god damn thing.
 
2013-02-04 08:58:41 AM
This worthless coont deserved it.  You can tell from how her kids were acting, that she's a completely useless parent, and that these kids are going to grow up thinking that their behaviour is acceptable.  Maybe this will send a message that the next time they act like little assholes that it could be a real bullet, and they'll smarten up.
 
2013-02-04 09:13:01 AM
I like how the kids start crying. They're gonna grow up and act just like her, too.
 
hej
2013-02-04 09:23:04 AM

midway_the_great: Unless she was doing something where shooting her with a gun would have been acceptable, then tazering her isn't acceptable.  fark this normalization of using tazers for every god damn thing.


The entire reason we have tazers is to be used in situations where shooting people with a gun would not be acceptable.
 
2013-02-04 09:35:21 AM

NiceBeaver: You know what submitter??

farkKK  YOUUUU!!

Overzealous cop...pffft.


THIS
Forget gun control, we need parental control
 
2013-02-04 09:38:09 AM

CuttySupreme: This is why Crimestoppers should send every black woman a $500 check for getting an abortion.


Dude... I don't even know what to say to this bullshiat.  Either you're a total asshat or a terrible troll.
 
2013-02-04 09:44:09 AM

orbister: Mock26: With that being said, what would you do in this situation, if someone was yelling at you and was in your face, standing chest to chest with you?

Walk away. Otherwise it's just a physical version of "someone is wrong on the internet"


What if it was your job to stay on station until the situation was neutralised ?  The option to "walk away" isn't always there.
 
2013-02-04 09:45:03 AM
This man is everything George Zimmerman imagines himself to be. It must be KILLING the freepers that he's black as the ace of spades.
 
2013-02-04 09:49:54 AM

willfullyobscure: This man is everything George Zimmerman imagines himself to be. It must be KILLING the freepers that he's black as the ace of spades.


You sound racists. Zimmerman took a thug off the street, epic win.
 
2013-02-04 11:03:57 AM

willfullyobscure: This man is everything George Zimmerman imagines himself to be. It must be KILLING the freepers that he's black as the ace of spades.


What is a "freeper"?

/honestly confused
 
2013-02-04 12:19:09 PM

Aeon Rising: BarkingUnicorn: Aeon Rising: sylwedydd: Sad part is the special kind of hell going on inside that lady her

So damn true. We ignore what kind of life people who act like that have had. I hate the behavior as much as the next guy, but people like that are deeply wounded.

Yeah, our priorities are farked up.  I wouldn't let a dog suffer like she's suffering.

I am big on capital punishment, 3 strike laws and someones right to defend themselves against an aggressor... the fact that she is so badly hurt doesn't give license to her behavior, but our failure as a society to provide support for such people is horrible.

We will throw stupid disgusting handouts her way all day long, but help her? Teach her? Make her independent and capable? We fail.

Problem is I don't know how to do that without violating other basic liberties, and we can't have the discussion because of farking libs who want to keep people dependent.


www.threadbombing.com
 
2013-02-04 12:23:17 PM

Joe Blowme: Forget gun control, we need parental control


Republicans keep trying to block that too.
 
2013-02-04 12:26:13 PM

Yogimus: willfullyobscure: This man is everything George Zimmerman imagines himself to be. It must be KILLING the freepers that he's black as the ace of spades.

What is a "freeper"?

/honestly confused


http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/">http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/
 
2013-02-04 12:41:23 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-04 01:00:23 PM

Two16: Yogimus: willfullyobscure: This man is everything George Zimmerman imagines himself to be. It must be KILLING the freepers that he's black as the ace of spades.

What is a "freeper"?

/honestly confused

http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/">http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/


Ah, the perpetually butthurt of the right.  Ok, makes sense now. Thank you.
 
2013-02-04 01:15:47 PM

Hickory-smoked: Children in bad environments have a much harder time learning basic social skills like mutual respect and impulse control. What's worse, after a certain point it's almost impossible to learn those skills. Programs like the one described in the article are making a significant and measurable difference.


Great find,  worth linking to directly.  http://www.hcz.org/hcz-home.php
 
2013-02-04 01:19:50 PM

fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).


Outside the doors is likely still on the mall's property. Either way, she didn't get tased until she came back in and started getting physical with the security guard.
 
2013-02-04 01:59:27 PM

FriarED1: fredklein: Elegy: Except the fact that he can't walk away. Because, you know, it's not his freakin job to walk away. It's his job to see that she leaves the property and stops causing a scene.

Watch the video- SHE WAS OFF THE PROPERTY. (25 seconds into the video).

Outside the doors is likely still on the mall's property. Either way, she didn't get tased until she came back in and started getting physical with the security guard.


I felt wicked bad when the tots started crying. that's hard to listen to. Of course, they started bawling when their mom popped off, not when she hit the concrete after her Mike Tyson impression, so i suspect they've been through some variation of this a few times already. That buck who came up afterward saying he was the baby daddy? he's a lucky dude, that was an older model taser, not the three shot variant they sell today.
 
2013-02-04 04:18:05 PM

SubBass49: Attention violent & angry people in the videos...I've got a message from my wife who is African-American:

[www.patentspostgrant.com image 480x360]


She was born in Africa then moved to the US?
Great for her.. Tell her "Welcome" for me!!
 
2013-02-04 04:32:57 PM

fredklein: FarkinHostile: He is an Authority Hater, not a troll. Anyone in authority/uniform is automatically wrong to him if they exercise their power, even if justified.

Nope. He had every right to kick her out. And he had every right to kick her kids out. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is him going back after she and the kids were already out and on the sidewalk.


You make absolutely no sense in your argument.  He did not cross the barrier until after she was tased and fell outside.  She came across the barrier and assaulted him.  His direction he was facing or walking is irrelevant due to that one fact.  She trespassed, then assaulted him, then battered him.  He then shot her with a taser.

You really need to get your eyes checked.
 
2013-02-04 05:43:35 PM
I used to rent a condo about a block away from there. Nice condo, shiatty area. I am familiar with that "mall" as I walked past it on the way to work. Not really a mall, but more like a street level walk through in a building.  The stores are tiny little weave shops, fake cologne/perfume stores, cheap mobile phone store, and places to get gold teeth things. I only lived there for about 2 months before I got out of lease because the area is littered with thugs, but I was never confronted by anybody or had any trouble. Underground is about a block away and is terrifying. The APD patrols that area but chooses to ignore blatant drug dealing and other crimes.

That area is not affected much by tourism at all. Conventioneers and tourist are about 5 blocks north on Peachtree St. If somebody acted like that woman in front of the Hyatt or Westin, there ass would be under the jail.
 
2013-02-04 07:01:26 PM

logicalman: Allen. The end.: logicalman: Obviously, core Obama supporters/voters. No surprises here. Stay classy Obama sycophants!

Oh shut up, ya troll.

LOL...no trollin', just truth tellin. The truth is the truth, no matter how embarrassing it is.


You are an idiot. Do you honestly believe any of those people actually voted? Do you think any are even registered? Keep politics out of this, moron.
 
2013-02-05 04:18:39 PM

Mock26: 'Don't yell at my motherf***ing kids! You'll get beat!'

Priceless.  Reminds me of an incident I had a couple months ago at a McDonald's.  I was eating lunch and at the table behind me was a woman and her small child.  The woman was on her cell phone, lacing her conversation with a steady supply of profanity.  At one point I burped, out loud.  It was one of those unexpected burps that suddenly pop up and even though I did cover my mouth, it was still audible.  I quickly said, "Excuse me" to the woman, who had heard it.  She then starts yelling at me for being rude in front of her daughter!  And, of course, she is using profanity while yelling at me!   Sadly, I was not surprised in the least bit by her behavior.


You didn't tell the whore to fark off?
 
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