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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   NRA's Wayne LaPierre gets skewered. FARK: On Fox News   (blogs.ajc.com) divider line 18
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2013-02-03 01:34:04 PM  
6 votes:
Why is this "fark"?  Fox proves time and again that they are fair and balanced.
2013-02-03 03:35:22 PM  
3 votes:

Mrtraveler01: 800-588-2300


So you're saying Obama wants to begin an "Empire"....
2013-02-03 03:52:47 PM  
2 votes:

atomicmask: I moved like 4 years ago, I just have not updated my profile.


A thorough background check may have revealed that.
2013-02-03 02:55:50 PM  
2 votes:
I heard Fox was changing the name to "Ministry of Truth," so people wouldn't confuse them with a news agency.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-03 01:45:22 PM  
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Why is this "fark"?  Fox proves time and again that they are fair and balanced.


Being able to say "fair and balanced" in connection with Fox wile keeping a straight face is worthy of the Fark reference.

But I imagine it's more likely that the NRA is too radical even for Fox.  Sort of like Glenn Beck.
2013-02-03 05:35:17 PM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: Mrtraveler01: atomicmask: The point we have made is that despite all of what you think, we do not actually need cities to get by. The tax money is helpful, but we could feed ourselves and house ourselves just fine without you.

You just wouldn't have any roads or utilities connecting to your house out in the middle of nowhere.

The cities need the country and vice versa. Let's stop pretending that isn't the case.

Roads and utilities? I got a well and a all wheel drive vehicle, a 4 wheeler and a arctic cat. I can do well for myself without power and that is really the only utility I am currently unable to create for myself. You keep assuming that we are as plugged into the grid as you think. I LIKE having my comforts, I NEED none of it. A little money saved up and I will have solar pannels on my roof and then I won't even have to worry about a power bill. Roads are just paved paths, when you got something that can handle the paths that arn't paved, roads stop being an issue.


You get refined gas out of that well?
2013-02-03 04:35:37 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: atomicmask: Daemonik: There are lots of people in the US who live in bumblefark little towns where everyone knows everyone else and sees no problems with everyone owning 300 firearms for "hunting" and keeping an eye on that black family that just moved in.  In NRA terms, their heartland.  These people will NEVER agree with even the most basic restraints on firearms, because they live in fear 24/7.  Fear of the government taking away their trailers, fear of brown people, fear of change, fear fear fear.

That is the sad truth.  They will rather that children go to school wearing ballistic armor than give up that fear.

Know what is funny about this? You are the most ignorant backwoods retard I  have ever met, and I live in one of these areas you stereotype and hate openly.

We don't live in fear because we know each other, we tend to like each other, and if we dont, we tend to avoid one another. Ever wonder why every shooting happens in one of your GLORIOUS and enlightened bastions of education and liberal utopias known as big cities? Because you are generally just as slackjawed, stupid, and hateful as you stereotype the rural individuals to be, except you have the distinct illusion that your shiat don't stink because you pack like rats into run down apartments and swear its the good life. Ever wonder why racial hate crimes take place in medium to large cities and less, far far less, in rural areas? Because we get to know the "black folk" we live with and tend to get along well with them. Perhaps if you spent less time stereotyping people and more time getting to know them, you wouldn't come across as so god damn wrong and so stupid.

You need help.




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2013-02-03 04:24:07 PM  
1 votes:

RickN99: nmrsnr: 1) citation needed that standard security and not SWAT use high capacity mags.

Most modern semiautomatic handguns are sold standard with "high capacity" magazines.  Only one of my handguns, a subcompact Glock 26, came with a 10-round magazine.  All the others came with stock 13-17 round magazines.  I have trouble believing that security guard specifically seek out the lower capacity handguns and not use the normal Berettas, Rugers, Glocks, etc.


Exactly. For a handgun, standard capacity is what fits in the body of the weapon itself, whether that be a cylinder for a revolver or the grip for a semi-automatic. If it's 17, then it's standard, not "high-capacity".

Dianne Feinstein needs a clue-by-four.
2013-02-03 04:12:41 PM  
1 votes:
Each year, the FBI reports, some 200 justifiable homicides are committed with a firearm. That's a tiny, tiny number, given the estimated 300 million firearms in circulation. That's one justifiable homicide for each 1.5 million firearms. That's the basis on which these fantasies are built.

I know it's already been brought up in this thread, but holy shiat. I mean, it's basically what my side of the "do you need a gun for home defense?" argument has been saying all along, but talk about a statistical gut-punch. You can nitpick away at that all day long, and what you're left with is still pretty stark.

It'd be like paying extra for a "drunk unicyclist" rider on your auto policy, except that in four decades on this planet I actually  have been in a situation where a drunk unicyclist threatened to cause damage to my vehicle. (Goddamn UW-Madison students, get the fark over yourselves.) And also, your kid can't accidentally shoot himself with an insurance rider, so the analogy kind of falls apart at that point.

I have this one sexual fantasy where I make sweet, tender love to the entire cast of  The Facts of Life on the deck of my private yacht. Hey, it could still happen. The odds of the opportunity presenting itself are not zero. But I'm not mortgaging my house for the down payment on a yacht, and I think that's probably the right way to go.

/including Charlotte Rae
//especially Charlotte Rae
2013-02-03 04:02:19 PM  
1 votes:

nmrsnr: But if, god forbid, your house were on fire, would you let anyone with a bucket and an ax who says "I want to help!" into your house?


Nah, he'd just shot them for self-defense.
2013-02-03 03:50:26 PM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: We don't live in fear because we know each other, we tend to like each other, and if we dont, we tend to avoid one another. Ever wonder why every shooting happens in one of your GLORIOUS and enlightened bastions of education and liberal utopias known as big cities? Because you are generally just as slackjawed, stupid, and hateful as you stereotype the rural individuals to be, except you have the distinct illusion that your shiat don't stink because you pack like rats into run down apartments and swear its the good life. Ever wonder why racial hate crimes take place in medium to large cities and less, far far less, in rural areas? Because we get to know the "black folk" we live with and tend to get along well with them. Perhaps if you spent less time stereotyping people and more time getting to know them, you wouldn't come across as so god damn wrong and so stupid.


You live in Phoenix!

Living in the 6th largest city in the US is not rural my friend.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-03 03:38:11 PM  
1 votes:

nmrsnr: ajgeek: LaPierre is correct; if you're rich, you generally have security in public and limiting public access to high capacity magazines (easily replicated with minimal tooling) while everyone in power has them is hypocritical.

1) citation needed that standard security and not SWAT use high capacity mags.

2) how is it hypocritical to say that high profile, high risk targets are allowed to have highly trained, specially dedicated security personnel, while saying that the average untrained civilian, who is not a particular target, has a right to the same weaponry as trained security. That's the same argument as saying that since the military has RPGs, it's hypocritical that I can't have one.


The same way it's hypocritical to say that elites like President Obama should have launch authority for nuclear weapons but the homeless dude who talks to himself shouldn't.
2013-02-03 03:35:39 PM  
1 votes:

Daemonik: and keeping an eye on that black family that just moved in.


Can't they just hire George Zimmermann for that? I hear he's super effective.
2013-02-03 03:34:45 PM  
1 votes:

Daemonik: There are lots of people in the US who live in bumblefark little towns where everyone knows everyone else and sees no problems with everyone owning 300 firearms for "hunting" and keeping an eye on that black family that just moved in.  In NRA terms, their heartland.  These people will NEVER agree with even the most basic restraints on firearms, because they live in fear 24/7.  Fear of the government taking away their trailers, fear of brown people, fear of change, fear fear fear.

That is the sad truth.  They will rather that children go to school wearing ballistic armor than give up that fear.


Know what is funny about this? You are the most ignorant backwoods retard I  have ever met, and I live in one of these areas you stereotype and hate openly.

We don't live in fear because we know each other, we tend to like each other, and if we dont, we tend to avoid one another. Ever wonder why every shooting happens in one of your GLORIOUS and enlightened bastions of education and liberal utopias known as big cities? Because you are generally just as slackjawed, stupid, and hateful as you stereotype the rural individuals to be, except you have the distinct illusion that your shiat don't stink because you pack like rats into run down apartments and swear its the good life. Ever wonder why racial hate crimes take place in medium to large cities and less, far far less, in rural areas? Because we get to know the "black folk" we live with and tend to get along well with them. Perhaps if you spent less time stereotyping people and more time getting to know them, you wouldn't come across as so god damn wrong and so stupid.
2013-02-03 03:33:14 PM  
1 votes:
When you end up claiming that private citizens should be allowed to own nuclear weapons in order to preserve the integrity of your argument, there's a good chance what you have is a shiatty argument that isn't worth preserving.
2013-02-03 03:21:31 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: atomicmask: this was not a skewering, this was the NRA guy being reasonable and fox going "BUT BUT BUT, WHAT ABOUT THIS"

The argument should be that what is good for the president and the rich is good for the commoner and the poor. If obama does not want people to have firearms he should relinquish his guards firearms first. He is a citizen first, president second.

So he's a hypocrite based on the things that you completely made up about him?

It's not him that looks stupid here.


No, he is not a hypocrite, everyone saying "But he has threats!" as for the reason why his armed guards wont conform to the same laws as the ones suggested for the rest of us is.

The police should follow the same laws, as well as the military.
2013-02-03 03:08:52 PM  
1 votes:
FTA: Let's review the hard data, shall we? Each year, the FBI reports, some 200 justifiable homicides are committed with a firearm. That's a tiny, tiny number, given the estimated 300 million firearms in circulation. That's one justifiable homicide for each 1.5 million firearms. That's the basis on which these fantasies are built. (And for the record, I recognize and support the constitutional right to possess firearms for home defense, etc.)
On the other hand, some 10,000 people are murdered each year with a firearm.

Successfully defending myself or family with a firearm only counts if I kill the other person?  Let's ignore all the non-homicide defensive uses as irrelevant; you gotta blow them away.

The mother in Atlanta who hid in the closet with her kids and shot the home invader -- doesn't count.  He lived.
The single woman in Atlanta who was surprised in the shower by a home invader and got to her gun and shot the guy -- doesn't count.  He lived.
2013-02-03 02:54:58 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Why is this "fark"?   Fox proves time and again that they are fair and balanced.


Now I know for sure that you're just trolling us.
 
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