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(Daily Mail)   UK court rules that the Ryanair flights grounded by volcano clouds in 2010 was due to the company acting like ash holes   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 16
    More: Followup, Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, Civil Aviation Authority, flight delay, European Law, European Court of Human Rights, executive compensation, regulations  
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-03 09:08:10 AM  
1. Fly to vacation paradise with round trip ticket.

2. Call in bomb threat.

3. Airline pays for your vacation because you can't fly home.
 
2013-02-03 09:42:34 AM  
On the one hand, I'm not against a law saying someone should pay (I'm pretty sure that in the US they wouldn't have to, and I'm not clamoring to change that).  On the other, apparently the insurers that the airlines use for these things don't have to pay for an act of god.  If that's so, then I don't think airlines should be different.  Of course, it may just be that the airlines thought they could get away with that and so that language was put into the insurance contracts too, in which case the solution would be to change the insurance contracts (and pay more, but in a way more secure to the airlines).
 
2013-02-03 10:00:19 AM  
i46.tinypic.com

WTF is this shiat?
 
2013-02-03 10:23:58 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?


A new form of advertising on FARK.

Notice that there is no comments

The thing to do is for everyone to use the next article to make comments on the un-commentable articles.
 
2013-02-03 10:36:38 AM  
I got stuck in Paris during that event, Air France paid for my hotel room and gave me a free round trip to be used at a later date, my daughter and I got a free week in Paris.  It was a good time actually.
 
2013-02-03 11:30:58 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?


Looks like a Dis or Dat question from You Don't Know Jack to me
 
2013-02-03 11:37:07 AM  

CujoQuarrel: LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?

A new form of advertising on FARK.

Notice that there is no comments

The thing to do is for everyone to use the next article to make comments on the un-commentable articles.


If only there was some way to block ads, some sort of ad blocking thing.

Ad Blocking would be such a Plus, don't you think?
 
2013-02-03 11:50:04 AM  

King Something: CujoQuarrel: LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?

A new form of advertising on FARK.

Notice that there is no comments

The thing to do is for everyone to use the next article to make comments on the un-commentable articles.

If only there was some way to block ads, some sort of ad blocking thing.

Ad Blocking would be such a Plus, don't you think?


I had a feeling I wasn't seeing it because of that ad blocking, which is definitely a plus.

Now back to the article:  Remember Ryanair was the airline that wanted to charge you to use the toilet.
 
2013-02-03 11:57:50 AM  

King Something: CujoQuarrel: LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?

A new form of advertising on FARK.

Notice that there is no comments

The thing to do is for everyone to use the next article to make comments on the un-commentable articles.

If only there was some way to block ads, some sort of ad blocking thing.

Ad Blocking would be such a Plus, don't you think?


Funny thing is even with my ad blocker off that little annoying yellow bar comes on on top.  So I figured if I had to see that at least I should turn my adblocker on so I don't have to see those either.
 
2013-02-03 12:19:33 PM  

pueblonative: King Something: CujoQuarrel: LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i46.tinypic.com image 640x283]

WTF is this shiat?

A new form of advertising on FARK.

Notice that there is no comments

The thing to do is for everyone to use the next article to make comments on the un-commentable articles.

If only there was some way to block ads, some sort of ad blocking thing.

Ad Blocking would be such a Plus, don't you think?

Funny thing is even with my ad blocker off that little annoying yellow bar comes on on top.  So I figured if I had to see that at least I should turn my adblocker on so I don't have to see those either.


There is a way to block it.

It has something to do with filters that involves fark.com, three pound (not the British pound) signs, the first two letters of the alphabet and the words "Plea" and "Bar"  And, no Drew, I am not disabling all my extensions because when I did I was notified by ghostery about 25-30 trackers.
 
2013-02-03 02:50:46 PM  
Tough.

Ryanair refused to comply with EU law, when whined when forced to do so. So, Ryanair picks a fight with the EU, claiming it's unfair. Ryanair loses fight, then whines some more. EU reminds Ryanair that, well, you can raise ticket prices to offset risk, as your passengers are more important than your profit margin.

Perhaps this may slow Ryanair's race to the bottom. Their very argument in that article, that "somebody who has paid us fifty quid to travel to the Canaries, who may be stuck there for two weeks, two months, six months, will now sue the airlines" is exactly the court's point - the EU law is quite clear about that very fact, and expected the airlines to account for it in their business models. Ryanair didn't - they gambled, got caught on one of their bets, and is now whining because they have to pay up.

Tough, I say. You gamble and lose, you pay up. The free market isn't "ensure I make a profit and protect me from loss."
 
2013-02-03 03:16:50 PM  

ZAZ: 1. Fly to vacation paradise with round trip ticket.

2. Call in bomb threat.

3. Airline Government pays for your vacation because you can't fly home have been convicted of making a bomb threat.


Profit?
 
2013-02-04 04:33:48 AM  

Nanny Statesman: On the one hand, I'm not against a law saying someone should pay (I'm pretty sure that in the US they wouldn't have to, and I'm not clamoring to change that).  On the other, apparently the insurers that the airlines use for these things don't have to pay for an act of god.  If that's so, then I don't think airlines should be different.  Of course, it may just be that the airlines thought they could get away with that and so that language was put into the insurance contracts too, in which case the solution would be to change the insurance contracts (and pay more, but in a way more secure to the airlines).


I think Ryanair's position is rational. Why should the be the insurer of last resort over flight delays not caused by their decisions? Why can't the travel insurance market cover this market demand of compensation?

All this will do is raise fares for everyone instead of those too cheap to buy travel insurance. Yay.
 
2013-02-04 09:59:01 AM  
Airline leaving me stranded because they farked up maintaining their aircraft?  Yes, they can pay for a motel for the night.
Airline leaving me stranded because a volcano is erupting and creating a situation where normal operation of the aircraft in a safe and reliable fashion is put into serious question?  I'll pay for the motel, but ya bastards damned well better get me on another plane.

The normal range of weather conditions are different, are part of the design of the aircraft, maintenance, and more.  You can de-ice the wings of a plane.  You can't un-ash the sky just yet.
 
2013-02-04 02:55:59 PM  
I never thought I'd agree with O'leary on anything but I do here. Will wonders never cease. This court ruling is stupid.
 
2013-02-05 09:52:28 AM  
The reasoning behind this decision is sketchy.  When TRAVEL INSURANCE companies get to say "hey, Act of God" and refuse to pay for canceled flights, then how in the hell is the airline supposed to be held responsible for these costs?
 
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