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(Daily Kos)   "The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity"   (dailykos.com) divider line 41
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2013-02-03 08:47:13 AM  
7 votes:
russianwomentruth.com

Roza Yegorovna Shanina would gladly take Glenn Beck out from 1000 yards away.
2013-02-03 11:15:20 AM  
6 votes:
War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

Not any more. War is the act of transfering national wealth into private hands. The killing is just window dressing for the plebes.
2013-02-03 01:30:16 AM  
5 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.


See, I think he's wrong even in this point.  War's not simply about killing.  There's strategy to it.  Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200.  If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.
2013-02-03 10:23:47 AM  
4 votes:

I alone am best: doglover: RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point.  War's not simply about killing.  There's strategy to it.  Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200.  If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.

A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.

Why is that?


Only 1% or less of American are in the military. We're extremely vulnerable in the civilian arena because that's 99% of the population. You can't beat an aircraft carrier with a stick of dynamite and some nails, but you can beat a bunch of mothers by killing or maiming one of their sons. Beat enough mothers and they vote for the guy who's gonna pull that aircraft carrier out.

We barely managed to do anything useful in the public's eyes except kill people in Iraq with 35 million people to deal with. 10 times that number? Not to mention their military was 375,000 strong. That's 10% of the population for them. If they were ten times as big that'd have been 3,750,000 people. Even if they all surrendered it would have overwhelmed our guys with paperwork and flooded the nation with ownerless assault rifles and a shiat ton more bullets and shells for IEDs and such much more than there were.

Not to mention size. It cost us several gold mines just to pacify the major parts of Iraq and re-purpose their military to bring the country under control. If they were as big as we are, that's a lot more travel, a lot more work, and a lot more money. You can break the Pentagon's will only by eliminating the entire chain of command from the top down, even then one crazy vet will always be left somewhere to start the fight anew. But you can break a Senator's will simply by being a persistent and expensive budget item. We barely got the go ahead from the house to do the Iraq war we did fight. Imagine one with quadruple the cost in resources and manpower to persecute would go over like a turd in a punchbowl.
2013-02-03 10:12:06 AM  
3 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: doglover: RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point.  War's not simply about killing.  There's strategy to it.  Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200.  If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.

A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.

You're probably thinking of Ho Chi Minh's boast to the effect that he'd outlast the US despite a 10:1 casualty rate.

Sun Tzu notes that the ideal is to achieve victory without fighting at all. Quite a lot of his little book seems to be aimed at correcting the sort of dumbass who thinks that war is about which "team" can rack up kills faster.


Uncle Ho said "You will kill 10 of our men, and we will kill 1 of yours, and in the end it will be you who tire of it" Basically meaning they were the home "team" (in Glenn's little world) and something to fight for.

scienceofstrategy.org

Sun Tzu understood war. He was, and still is, an all around badass, He trained Sun Wu's concubines for fighting on the front line. Sure he killed two of them but that was to make a point. when the orders are clear but not followed, the officers are at fault. So Sun Tzu ordered the women's commanders, the king's two favorite concubines, beheaded. The remaining women obeyed the orders precisely.

The first principle of war is deception, not to kill. This is why 2500 years later people are still reading the Art of War. Uncle Glenn will be a mere fascist shiat stain on history noted for ripping off Lewis Prothero.
2013-02-03 08:03:56 AM  
3 votes:

doglover: RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point.  War's not simply about killing.  There's strategy to it.  Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200.  If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.

A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.


You're probably thinking of Ho Chi Minh's boast to the effect that he'd outlast the US despite a 10:1 casualty rate.

Sun Tzu notes that the ideal is to achieve victory without fighting at all. Quite a lot of his little book seems to be aimed at correcting the sort of dumbass who thinks that war is about which "team" can rack up kills faster.
2013-02-03 01:54:21 AM  
3 votes:
If there's anyone that knows about cowering, it's Glenn Beck.
2013-02-03 01:23:53 AM  
3 votes:
No. They're going to cower in defeat because they'll be the best damn soldiers on the planet.
2013-02-03 12:54:55 AM  
3 votes:
War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

Uh huh.  Now why do you think we want more people on our side, dummy?
2013-02-03 12:16:05 PM  
2 votes:

randomjsa: When lives are at risk, and they always are during war, diversity and equality get to take a back seat to reality. If you want women in combat roles, that's perfectly fine, I'm not against that but you will have to accept everything that goes along with that whether you like it or not,


Except that there are plenty of women who are qualified to do this as well as men.

If they can meet the same physical requirements, etc., I don't see why they shouldn't be able to participate just because they have a different sex organ.

That's what the debate is about, not whatever imaginary BS you got floating around in your head.
2013-02-03 09:00:18 AM  
2 votes:
They've been in combat for a whirl now Glenn.

And by the way, there have always been gays in the military.
2013-02-03 08:46:25 AM  
2 votes:

Macular Degenerate: what the hell is that thing? Kill it with fire, please?


That's an excellent comedian. Fire death would be a bit excessive.
2013-02-03 08:07:50 AM  
2 votes:
Besides, aren't male uniforms made just like women's uniforms?  Like, aren't they unisex?  So then all the men could be said to be wearing women's clothing and vice versa.
2013-02-03 08:04:59 AM  
2 votes:
We're not fighting trench warfare any more.  Frankly, I'd take a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor over Glenn Beck any day of the week.  I'd never be able to turn my back on Glenn Beck.
2013-02-03 07:37:48 AM  
2 votes:
Glenn Beck is partly right:  the US can be ably defended only by male, gun and freedom loving penis-holders such as this:
thinkprogress.org

On the other hand, he is partly wrong: "This is the dumbest idea I ever heard. Women now fight on the front lines?".  Which is dumb, because apparently he never noticed this, or never considered it a problem, in the 7 years or so of the last administration when the same thing occurred.

Any objection these idiots have to women serving in combat can be disproven by simply looking at the recent history of American women serving in combat.
2013-02-03 07:33:42 AM  
2 votes:
(clicks link)  Glen Beck..

Oh, just ignore the troll.
2013-02-03 07:14:06 AM  
2 votes:
It's Glenn Beck. Does any of the stupidity out of his mouth even surprise anyone anymore?
2013-02-03 04:17:30 AM  
2 votes:
A key element of victory is surprise.  So what could be more surprising than the 1st Battallion female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser handicapable transgendered breast-cancer-survivor Brigade?


eddieizzardfans.com
2013-02-03 03:16:38 AM  
2 votes:
Another example of something that many nations have done successfully, but is the death knell for the greatest nation and culture EVAR
2013-02-03 02:10:51 AM  
2 votes:
But if the enemy saw Glen Beck on the front lines, they'd surrender on the spot?

Actually, that's an experiment I'd like to see tried.  Get out there, Becksy.
2013-02-03 01:32:41 AM  
2 votes:

RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: War is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team.

See, I think he's wrong even in this point.  War's not simply about killing.  There's strategy to it.  Your side can lose a thousand, and their side 200.  If their 200 is the top command structure, and your 1000 are low-level soldiers, you're probably much closer to winning than they are.


A Chinese general said something to that effect.

"I can lose 100 to your one and still win." or something like that. It's true, too. If Iraq was the size of the US, we'd have lost.
2013-02-03 12:22:14 AM  
2 votes:
OK, GOP shills, you thought defending the NRA was tough?  Try talking your way out of THIS.
2013-02-03 04:41:13 PM  
1 votes:
I think we're losing sight of what is truly important here. Turning this into a hot women of the IDF thread.

newnation.sg

www.worldaffairsboard.com
2013-02-03 04:06:49 PM  
1 votes:
I never can understand the stupidity of folks like Beck.

Gee, Beck, what do you think would send a fundamentalist Muslim soldier running? Watching two of his buddies get shot by some guy, or watching two of his buddies get shot by a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser - who clearly isn't wearing a hijab?
I'm depressed that we're arguing Glenn Beck's stupidity as if it was a valid opinion, and not as the stupidity it so clearly is, because we've somehow accepted Glenn Beck's attenion whoring as an actual opinion. The sad part is that he thinks he's funny, that he (or a writer on his staff) is somehow a right-wing comedian for stringing that together. And we're arguing it as if it's meant to be politically valid.
2013-02-03 02:43:56 PM  
1 votes:

randomjsa: Oh I can do better than that.

We'll take 10,000 men and 10,000 weapon. Both sides get all the same equipment, supplies, and training.

Let's start a war... at the ga... kidding.

The women are going to lose horribly. Yes they are. Yes. They. Are. That's not sexist. That's not underestimating women. That's just how things are. If the contest involves fighting, the men are going to win in a contest against women. This is his point. War is about killing people and breaking things, and whoever does it the best wins... Period. This is the same reason men are far more likely to commit violent crimes than women too.

When lives are at risk, and they always are during war, diversity and equality get to take a back seat to reality. If you want women in combat roles, that's perfectly fine, I'm not against that but you will have to accept everything that goes along with that whether you like it or not,


Problems with your argument:
1)  No one is saying that we should just grab a bunch of random women off the street and put them in battle.  There are standards, and I bet if we found 10,000 basement dwellers and put them in a fight with 10,000 current female marines, that the BD's would die horribly.
2)  Women are already in combat right now.  The military has been using them for about a decade now in combat, by exploiting a loophole in the laws to get more feet on the ground.  Bonus:  This exploit means that women who serve in a combat zone doing combat work don't get paid the combat pay of the guy next to him, due to him being a guy.

Every vet I've talked to (I visit a VA hospital 2-3 times a month), whether they approved of women in combat roles or not, says that if the military's gonna put a woman in danger anyway then they should pay her just the same.  Set the standards and let women try to get to them.  Most women won't meet them, but then again, most men don't.
2013-02-03 01:07:21 PM  
1 votes:

ModernLuddite: How would a Mexican and an Inuit even meet to conceive a child? How many Mexican-Inuit people are there in the world?

Also, the Canadian Forces have "ice rangers" or some such thing, who are 100% Inuit and completely hardcore badass. So yes, the army needs these people.

//Okay, so there haven't been many wars fought up in Ikualikutituinut, but still.....



See it means it is working no one wants to face the Ice Rangers.

t0.gstatic.com
2013-02-03 12:20:47 PM  
1 votes:
I dunno.  I think there are a lot of Taliban who would never live down getting his ass kicked by a girl.
2013-02-03 11:56:45 AM  
1 votes:
If the female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser or handicapped, transgendered breast cancer survivor meet the training standards for the role provided I say let do it.
2013-02-03 10:58:56 AM  
1 votes:
Beck must know with all his years of military service.
2013-02-03 08:05:50 AM  
1 votes:
If you are a Muslim jihadist, the worst possible way to die is by losing your holy war to female Hispanic Eskimo cross-dressing transgender...whatever the fark that twit said.
2013-02-03 08:02:46 AM  
1 votes:

ModernLuddite: How would a Mexican and an Inuit even meet to conceive a child? How many Mexican-Inuit people are there in the world?

Also, the Canadian Forces have "ice rangers" or some such thing, who are 100% Inuit and completely hardcore badass. So yes, the army needs these people.

//Okay, so there haven't been many wars fought up in Ikualikutituinut, but still.....


Canadian Ranger Patrol Group

They are some pretty badd-ass soldiers. Not exclusively aboriginal, but most of them are.
2013-02-03 07:59:00 AM  
1 votes:
Wouldn't a female transgendered transvestite be a female to male who dresses in women's clothing?

You can't explain that!
2013-02-03 07:56:43 AM  
1 votes:
But don't you dare take away her gun!
2013-02-03 07:49:07 AM  
1 votes:

socratesthekidd: Because Glenn Beck's opinion on anything warrants conversation?


He earned $80 million last year from people who pay to hear his opinion.
2013-02-03 07:35:31 AM  
1 votes:
Because Glenn Beck's opinion on anything warrants conversation?
2013-02-03 07:31:31 AM  
1 votes:
dooshbags like glenn beck only have an audience and a paycheck because you lend him an ear. the shiat that comes out of the mouths of most of these arseholes, they may as well be the kardashians, britney spears or dog teh bounty hunter. irrelevant and useless.
2013-02-03 07:11:51 AM  
1 votes:

syrynxx: A key element of victory is surprise.  So what could be more surprising than the 1st Battallion female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser handicapable transgendered breast-cancer-survivor Brigade?


[eddieizzardfans.com image 395x505]


Eddie is a transvesite. Not a transgender. He just likes the cloithes, shoes and makeup. And the hair removal. In other words- he is just a basic masochist. not that there is anything wrong with that.
2013-02-03 02:26:15 AM  
1 votes:
They're going to cower because that transgendered lesbian, midget is going to pull a trigger and unleash a world of hurt our enemy has never even considered.
2013-02-03 02:01:12 AM  
1 votes:
why is fark trying to make beck a thing again?
2013-02-03 01:47:46 AM  
1 votes:
I know some lesbians that would be great in a battle. They're far more 'scorched earth' than males when angry.
2013-02-03 12:47:33 AM  
1 votes:
Ok, that's pretty goddamned funny. 0645 on a Sunday morning and I've already had my first chuckle.
 
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