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2013-02-03 01:03:08 AM  
its slowing down in here.

it was a good try Fark.
 
2013-02-03 01:03:09 AM  
In all seriousness, this is a terrible example of the lack of mental healthcare our veterans are receiving upon return from wherever they go.  Whether you agree or disagree with the mission, the failure to recognize and address that we've got a second Vietnam worth of societal problems revolving around veterans returning with mental/emotional issues will haunt us for the next 60 years.
 
2013-02-03 01:03:42 AM  
I wonder how many people who all "don't care about a member of the armed forces dying because he is technically a murder" also are OUTRAGED that Anwar Al-Aulaqi was killed. Every drop of brown blood is precious but death to America.

Also for those who view the military as welfare queens, they actually work so it isn't welfare in the sense of the word. This country wouldn't even have a middle class if it wasn't for veterans who went to college post WW2. The military is responsible for the safety we enjoy today, training and disciplining many young men and woman with job and social skills, and providing technological advancements including the very internet that is trolling me at this very second. When you view the pay of junior enlisted and break up their salary over 4 weeks and a 40 hour work week (and nobody in the Military works under 40 hours) it isn't that much higher than minimum wage. Last but not least, the military is actually mandated by our constitution and every political philosophy believes at the minimum that government's roll is to provide both a military and Infrastructure.

/in short, go chock on dicks
//been successfully trolled
///might as well crack open a six pack for this thread
 
2013-02-03 01:03:58 AM  
Wha?  Just because the guy killed a lot of other people is his life now somehow more important? Their souls added to his?

Each and every murder in a war is a failure of the human race to progress and reflects poorly on all of us.

What about that dude that saved over a hundred lives?  remember him?  exactly.
 
2013-02-03 01:04:56 AM  
I had no idea that fark was this entertaining so late at night..
 
2013-02-03 01:05:47 AM  

wademh: Truth remains more nuanced. If that blind patriotic sense is so praiseworthy, then you have to start praising Nazi soldiers. Again, sorry but reality is far more nuanced.


Yes, but when you feel that doubt creeping in, you have to quash it down by doubling down on belief in your own people, like a good nationalist. In the same way that when a religious person feels a crisis of faith, they become zealots to squelch the scary reality.
 
2013-02-03 01:06:00 AM  

nmemkha: BronyMedic: nmemkha: LOL, typical projection.

Oooh. Someone got his GED in Psychology tonight. Mail order worked out well, didn't it Sigmund Fraud?

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Maybe that'll help with your sandy vagina. Troll on, interweb hero! Troll on!

I will just let your lame rebuttal mock you for me.


That's okay. I still love you. Black Jesus still loves you. Flying Spagetti Monster still loves you.

Do you have a moment to talk about his touching noodly appendage, Sir? Eternal salvation awaits you in a paradise of stripper factories and beer volcanos.
 
2013-02-03 01:06:05 AM  

universebetween: its slowing down in here.

it was a good try Fark.


I don't know. It's always easy to discount a thread's chances of Going Plaid when the heavies blow their wads 100 comments in, but there are some quality trolls working the crowd right now. Quality.
 
2013-02-03 01:06:12 AM  
www.theblaze.com
Any friend off Sarah Palin is dead to me...
 
2013-02-03 01:06:22 AM  
I can't really put a "hero" label on this guy.  He served honorably with distinction and courage, but the conflict he served in was a load of shiat.  Not every soldier is a hero.  Not every insurgent is a villain.  Granted, if I had to choose, I'd rather have a soldier hanging around than a Taliban fighter, but you can't paint either group in black and white.  There may be people with the virtue of a saint serving in uniform, but I've personally known quite a few absolutely vile service members as well.  On that same note, there might be some terrorists who are in it purely because they believe it's the best/only way to make a better life for themselves or their families, along with the ones mentioned up-thread with killboners for any American they can find.  The best thing we as a nation can do is educate ourselves, pick leaders who will look out for everyone's best interest, and beat the everloving shiat out of the ones who betray that trust.

/veteran, not a hero
//for me it was a job and a way out of my crappy home town
 
2013-02-03 01:06:37 AM  

super_grass: Red Shirt Blues: drayno76: BronyMedic: drayno76: So he followed orders and was very good at it.... So were Nazi war criminals.... They heroes too? Your turn.

That's a stupid argument, and you win the dumbass-of-the-thread award for making it, and turning a Godwin.

The Nazis neither followed the laws and conventions of warfare of which they were a signatary to, or even their own national rules and regulations regarding the treatment of combatants and occupied peoples. It's a false comparison only someone either poorly educated in history, or entirely disingenious with an agenda would promote.

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We're really good at following those 'conventions of war'.


Your turn... we are the new Nazi's you just haven't been paying attention .
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Yes cause that equals what the nazis did...har har har I'm soooooooo edgy like you

Better edgy and sharp than dull and slow.

/ Proud to be edgy.
/ Proud to be atheist.
/ Proud to educate people on the internet.


Wait, no, wait. Your an atheist!? There was another one in this same thread! Omg! Your like the second one on the internet!

Aaaand you like to "educate" people on how smart and logical you are!?
 
2013-02-03 01:06:38 AM  

CatherineM: I had no idea that fark was this entertaining so late at night..


You need to stay up more often. And it's only midnight your time. Come back in a few hours when things get totally bizzaro.
 
2013-02-03 01:06:43 AM  

Frank N Stein: ElBarto79: Oh wow, I have a gun nut friend who is constantly posting on Facebook how you never see shootings at gun ranges. This is getting forwarded to him.

The important thing is that this dead soldier proved you right with your facebook friend.


No, the important thing is he is dead. Hopefully more gun nuts will follow.
 
2013-02-03 01:07:09 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: why does every god damn thing every human being ever does have to be labeled?

people are pieces of shiat. he was a murderer. period.

this guy was a piece of shiat


I'd hate to know how you feel about Teddy charging the spanish on horse back. Also, you just labeled something he did, incorrectly mind you, but I doubt you care.
 
2013-02-03 01:07:27 AM  

BronyMedic: super_grass: Frank N Stein: super_grass: Better edgy and sharp than dull and slow.

/ Proud to be edgy.
/ Proud to be atheist.
/ Proud to educate people on the internet.

You do realize that the edgy label is sarcastic, right? You don't seem to be as sharp as you like to fancy yourself.

Keep telling yourself that, sheep.

I spend my days blacking out the word "god" on dollar bills and convincing people on the internet that war should be fought with swords (preferably katanas) and honor like the old days.

I make a difference. What do you do besides wasting all your time on that idiocy you call "employment"?

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Seriously. Just, just stop.


Looks like you just got  

*puts on fedora*

appleJACKED
 
2013-02-03 01:07:38 AM  

BronyMedic: Call me when the United States Army is marching into Prague and rounding up everyone by their ethnicity to shoot and gas.


So that's the red line in your world of moral relativism?

I love you guys.
 
2013-02-03 01:08:02 AM  
So what was the rifle range, about 200 meters?
 
2013-02-03 01:08:06 AM  

BronyMedic: Ivo Shandor: BronyMedic: No country, or law, in the entire world defines murder as a death in active combat.

Tell that to Omar Khadr.

I agree. The Wire was a crying shame how they killed him off.



Wrong.  That was Omar Vizquel.
 
2013-02-03 01:08:20 AM  

mrlewish: Wha?  Just because the guy killed a lot of other people is his life now somehow more important? Their souls added to his?

Each and every murder in a war is a failure of the human race to progress and reflects poorly on all of us.

What about that dude that saved over a hundred lives?  remember him?  exactly.


Dexter Morgan? Superman? Peter & Nathan Petrielli? Chuck Bartowski?
Michael Westin? Jack Bauer?
 
2013-02-03 01:08:34 AM  

Phoenix_M: [www.theblaze.com image 566x262]
Any friend off Sarah Palin is dead to me...


Arumat: I can't really put a "hero" label on this guy.  He served honorably with distinction and courage, but the conflict he served in was a load of shiat.  Not every soldier is a hero.  Not every insurgent is a villain.  Granted, if I had to choose, I'd rather have a soldier hanging around than a Taliban fighter, but you can't paint either group in black and white.  There may be people with the virtue of a saint serving in uniform, but I've personally known quite a few absolutely vile service members as well.  On that same note, there might be some terrorists who are in it purely because they believe it's the best/only way to make a better life for themselves or their families, along with the ones mentioned up-thread with killboners for any American they can find.  The best thing we as a nation can do is educate ourselves, pick leaders who will look out for everyone's best interest, and beat the everloving shiat out of the ones who betray that trust.

/veteran, not a hero
//for me it was a job and a way out of my crappy home town


he was just a POS that happened to serve in the US Military
 
2013-02-03 01:08:46 AM  
What a shame. Killed by guns, you say? Terrible shame.
 
2013-02-03 01:09:09 AM  
I gotta say, this is one thing that always worries me about gun ranges. At my local range everyone's very professional and courteous, but if I'm alone and head up range to check my 200 yard target when some unhinged lunatic arrives and sets up his rifle...I think about this every time I'm out there, I can't help it.

The worst I've seen though is some dumbass kid ran out onto the range once to set up a target while I was the lone shooter.

/Backup plan: hit the dirt, dive behind one of the berms. Work my way around the side back to the benches, and kick the living shiat out of him.
 
2013-02-03 01:09:39 AM  

justtray: Frank N Stein: justtray: "This facility has no guns. There's a gun range next door that is well armed with the sniper that killed a bunch of your countrymen. I will not attempt to stop you when you try to exact your revenge on him."

justtray: Thank god shooting spree killers never target gun ranges because they're so well armed.

Also, thankfully, one of the many armed heroes was able to stop this guy before he could commit terror. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.... except when they don't.

Don't stop now. You're on a roll.

Nah that's enough. That fully destroys a couple really stupid gun-nut talking points. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll come up with some new, equally invalid ones next week.

Open wide, liberals are coming!


You've never been to a range have you?
 
2013-02-03 01:09:43 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Frank N Stein: ElBarto79: Oh wow, I have a gun nut friend who is constantly posting on Facebook how you never see shootings at gun ranges. This is getting forwarded to him.

The important thing is that this dead soldier proved you right with your facebook friend.

No, the important thing is he is dead. Hopefully more gun nuts will follow.


Thank you for showing the world how morally superior you are. I'm sure El Che would agree with you.
 
2013-02-03 01:10:02 AM  

The_Sponge: BronyMedic: Ivo Shandor: BronyMedic: No country, or law, in the entire world defines murder as a death in active combat.

Tell that to Omar Khadr.

I agree. The Wire was a crying shame how they killed him off.


Wrong.  That was Omar Vizquel.


No, no no. That was the guy that got raped in the shower on Oz, remember?

i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-03 01:10:05 AM  

BronyMedic: drayno76: Well shiat, you did that on page 1. Cap't 'Murica....

I'm not the one revising history to suit his agenda. I'm pretty anti-war in general, and I've been against getting involved in Iraq since day one, but to pull a comparison to Nazi Germany out of your ass with the United States demonstrates you have no idea what you're talking about in the least, and only want to compare the two for an emotional appeal.

Call me when the United States Army is marching into Prague and rounding up everyone by their ethnicity to shoot and gas.


Logic remains logic. You, BronyMedic, are the one giving a pass to anyone who is serving in the US military. You show no sense of qualification in your admiration for anyone who does so. You were presented with the logical extension. It is apparent that you have no honest response and have been exposed.
 
2013-02-03 01:10:40 AM  

GUTSU: Thank you for showing the world how morally superior you are. I'm sure El Che would agree with you.


Damn it, why did you have to do that? I put that guy on ignore for a reason.
 
2013-02-03 01:10:40 AM  

phatix: Mock26: wademh: Mock26: Abox: wademh: TOWG: The first 10 commenters can all go and EABOD. RIP hero

I'm not clear on what makes a sniper a hero.

The chef in the mess hall.

"What," not "who."

Does a sniper hero come with extra lettuce, in fact completely covered in lettuce, you know, for green camouflage?

When you order a sniper hero you are told to close your eyes.  When they tell you to open your eyes you have to then find the sub.

I'll have the sniper hero with the ghillie soup.

/no soup for you


Wrong restaurant.  You need to try the nazi deli down the road.
 
2013-02-03 01:11:02 AM  
I can appreciate the skills it takes to be a sniper.  I can appreciate the precision, the tools, the mission.  I'm not so big on the killing for Jesus crowd, and the people that cheer it on.  This guy seemed a little... off, to put it mildly.

Carlos Hathcock's biography mentioned how he tried to weed out the crazies and the ones who enjoyed it when he started putting together a scout sniper unit in Vietnam.  That you can take satisfaction in a job well done, but there's a line that can get crossed.  I'd like to know if anyone wanted him pulled off the line and examined, and what the results were or weren't.

/When you talk to God, it's faith
//When he talks back, it's insanity.
///When he tells you to kill, it's time to crinkle some tinfoil on the antenna.
 
2013-02-03 01:11:22 AM  
Thank you for your service to our country, Chris Kyle - Salute!
 
2013-02-03 01:11:24 AM  
arolemodel.com
 
2013-02-03 01:12:05 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: CatherineM: I had no idea that fark was this entertaining so late at night..

You need to stay up more often. And it's only midnight your time. Come back in a few hours when things get totally bizzaro.


I saw this news on facebook along with plenty of derp, so I had to come here and.. yeah, I don't know what I was expecting. It got really weird really quick. Saw the below on a friend's page.. at least spell check, fer chrissake..

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2013-02-03 01:12:16 AM  

Frank N Stein: He's a hero because he went to a foreign land, put himself in extreme danger and extreme discomfort, to kill a bunch of people as commanded by the people you put in charge. Satisfactory answer?


How does that differ from a bad guy ?
 
2013-02-03 01:12:35 AM  

drayno76: [arolemodel.com image 529x650]


Says the asshole that failed to act upon the Sith threat before it took hold.
 
2013-02-03 01:13:15 AM  

drayno76: [arolemodel.com image 529x650]


sadly it gets dismissed as entertainment.
 
2013-02-03 01:13:42 AM  

universebetween: drayno76: [arolemodel.com image 529x650]

sadly it gets dismissed as entertainment.


I tried.
 
2013-02-03 01:13:59 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I gotta say, this is one thing that always worries me about gun ranges. At my local range everyone's very professional and courteous, but if I'm alone and head up range to check my 200 yard target when some unhinged lunatic arrives and sets up his rifle...I think about this every time I'm out there, I can't help it.

The worst I've seen though is some dumbass kid ran out onto the range once to set up a target while I was the lone shooter.

/Backup plan: hit the dirt, dive behind one of the berms. Work my way around the side back to the benches, and kick the living shiat out of him.



In all honesty, I don't even think about it.  Besides, it's more likely that I will die in a car crash.

Side note:

A local indoor range had a streak of bad luck some years ago....2-3 suicides on the range....they used rented handguns.  And then you had this one girl who shot her boyfriend in the throat with a .44 Magnum....the recoil caused her hands to move over her head and behind her back....and she shot off another round.  Ugh.
 
2013-02-03 01:14:42 AM  

Slartibartfaster: Frank N Stein: He's a hero because he went to a foreign land, put himself in extreme danger and extreme discomfort, to kill a bunch of people as commanded by the people you put in charge. Satisfactory answer?

How does that differ from a bad guy ?


Because he's on our team, and in my opinion our team is more virtuous than their team.
 
2013-02-03 01:15:07 AM  

Frank N Stein: drayno76: [arolemodel.com image 529x650]

Says the asshole that failed to act upon the Sith threat before it took hold.


Damn. The little f*cker *does* look a bit like Cheney, now that I think about it.
 
2013-02-03 01:15:44 AM  

fusillade762: Smackledorfer: Was this the same sniper who talked about how god guided all his shots and it was god's will they died

If so it is still a shame when someone gets murdered, but I don't have the spare tears for self-righteous angels of death.

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Interesting. Does anyone know the situation with the bolt handle on that '03 Springfield?  I'm not familiar with that variant, and I've got about 15 of 'em.
 
2013-02-03 01:16:24 AM  
Ban all guns.
 
2013-02-03 01:16:25 AM  

HotWingAgenda: I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I'm surprised you don't know that a lot of the "insurgents" in Iraq were from places like Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, etc. Even some Iranian covert ops teams working to destabilize the new regime.


Yeah, a whole lot of them. I believe the percentage of foreigners among insurgents killed (counted by the Bush admin) was around 2%. But keep on relating to that chicken.
 
2013-02-03 01:16:32 AM  

BronyMedic: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: It's not trolling. It's an honest request. But apparently, I'm correct in my assertion that nobody can actually back up such claims.............bro.

If you're actually being serious? He's a hero for undertaking a mission which only a select group of human beings, the number of which could be counted in the low thousands, in the history of the United States have been able to do. In doing so, he placed himself at extreme risk of capture by an enemy who would neither respect the laws and conventions of warfare, but would gleefully do horrific things to his corpse long after tortuing and murdering him to do so. His mission not only placed him in the realm of disproportionate risk as a soldier, but also provided a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer, allowing American and allied forces to do what they needed to do, without endangering civilians and noncombattants as much as a drone strike or artillery strike would have.

He did this while honoribly serving his country, and upholding the laws and values of the UCMJ and the conventions which we stuck to, even while others didn't.

So yes. That's why he's a hero. Some people aren't satisfied being BASH Commandos in a cubicle.


Well put...people forget that that right or wrong, the rights we enjoy as Americans are served by people such as this...disagree or not with the mission, he served his country above and beyond the call of duty.
 
2013-02-03 01:16:48 AM  
Whoa...

Didn't this guy have a feud with Jesse Ventura and the 9-11 Truthers? Any connection?

Phoenix_M: Any friend off Sarah Palin is dead to me...


Do you know that everyone knows you're an asshole?
 
2013-02-03 01:17:34 AM  

MisterTweak: Frank N Stein: drayno76: [arolemodel.com image 529x650]

Says the asshole that failed to act upon the Sith threat before it took hold.

Damn. The little f*cker *does* look a bit like Cheney, now that I think about it.


I'm just saying. Yoda put himself on a pedestal high and mightily as the leader of the Jedi and protector of the Republic. He failed to protect the republic, than has the audacity to say that all the people whos deaths he's responsible for are not heroes.
 
2013-02-03 01:17:42 AM  

John Henry Eden: MrHappyRotter: Frank N Stein: deadliest sniper in U.S. history

He never killed anyone. His gun did.

His gun never killed anyone either, you dirty lib.  It's the bullets that are generally fatal.


Bullets never killed anyone. Its the lead in the bullet that killed people.


It's the propellant blasting the lead projectile that kills.
 
2013-02-03 01:18:05 AM  
As a compromise, let's ban bans.
 
2013-02-03 01:19:00 AM  
Blah blah blah reset clock blah blah blah
 
2013-02-03 01:19:12 AM  

sheep snorter: Back in Saint Reagans day, these people were the heroes.

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Don't you ever do basic research before posting internet memes? The Taliban weren't around in the 80s and most of those men in the room weren't part of it when it was created.
 
2013-02-03 01:19:22 AM  

ficklefkrfark: BronyMedic: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: It's not trolling. It's an honest request. But apparently, I'm correct in my assertion that nobody can actually back up such claims.............bro.

If you're actually being serious? He's a hero for undertaking a mission which only a select group of human beings, the number of which could be counted in the low thousands, in the history of the United States have been able to do. In doing so, he placed himself at extreme risk of capture by an enemy who would neither respect the laws and conventions of warfare, but would gleefully do horrific things to his corpse long after tortuing and murdering him to do so. His mission not only placed him in the realm of disproportionate risk as a soldier, but also provided a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer, allowing American and allied forces to do what they needed to do, without endangering civilians and noncombattants as much as a drone strike or artillery strike would have.

He did this while honoribly serving his country, and upholding the laws and values of the UCMJ and the conventions which we stuck to, even while others didn't.

So yes. That's why he's a hero. Some people aren't satisfied being BASH Commandos in a cubicle.

Well put...people forget that that right or wrong, the rights we enjoy as Americans are served by people such as this...disagree or not with the mission, he served his country above and beyond the call of duty.


Bullshiat. Doing your job competently makes you a employee worth keeping. How did Vietnam and Iraq make us safe? How specifically?
 
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