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2013-02-02 03:26:11 PM  
Yet another thread about the god damn NRA?
 
2013-02-02 04:14:08 PM  
www.pitbullsontheweb.com
Petey agrees
 
2013-02-02 05:09:50 PM  
Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator, would never stop. It would never leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get drunk and hit him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.
 
2013-02-02 06:22:08 PM  
They'll be fine; it's always the neighbor's kids that get eaten.
 
2013-02-02 06:41:35 PM  
I have a friend who has a pitbull and I've house-sat for him a few times. One time I showed up and the dog didn't even seem to know I was there for almost an hour. So yeah, not so much the guard dog type.
 
2013-02-02 06:59:47 PM  
img.wallpapergang.com

Mindless killing machines, you say?
 
2013-02-02 07:00:08 PM  
Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.
 
2013-02-02 07:07:29 PM  
Guarding?

/Can I come with you
 
2013-02-02 07:09:24 PM  
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-02 07:23:47 PM  

doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.


So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?
 
2013-02-02 07:28:24 PM  
My theory is that pit pulls are psychic.  They know who's going to grow up to a serial killer; who's about to snap; and who beat a puppy when he was a child.
 
2013-02-02 07:30:07 PM  
www.bbc.co.uk
Knowsabout being raised by a machine.
 
2013-02-02 07:30:18 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?


Craziest, meanest dog I ever saw was a black lab.
 
2013-02-02 07:32:17 PM  
"Mindless killing machines, guarding YOUR children? "

Jeebus, can we stop talking about the Alabama bunker man already?
 
2013-02-02 07:38:31 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?


Many of them are indeed lying, others lack the ability to self-reflect. Abusers hardly ever think of themselves as abusers, you know.
 
2013-02-02 07:40:04 PM  
I had a landlord tell me my dog violated the lease, which barred tenents from having pitbulls. My dog was a bassette hound. She made me prove it by bringing a letter from the vet. Dog racism: almost as stupid as people racism.

/Whar dog birf certificate!?
 
2013-02-02 07:40:06 PM  

lewismarktwo: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?

Craziest, meanest dog I ever saw was a black lab.


my uncle had a Coonhound that was completely insane and out to kill anything that moved
 
2013-02-02 07:41:01 PM  
Clearly we need reasonable legislation to protect us from these assault dogs with their high capacity mouths.
 
2013-02-02 07:41:50 PM  

doglover: The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal


So...

1) Slavery wouldn't have happened if the slaves were armed.
2) Dogs are slaves

Therefore

3) Dogs should be armed to prevent animal abuse.
 
2013-02-02 07:42:49 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?


Citation needed.

I've yet to see more than one story of a dog just eating a baby, and that was a daschund. Y'know, the breed responsible for the most bites per capita but no one cares because they're tiny?

Most stories about pit bull attacks I've read start with "He got out of his kennel." or "His chain broke." That's an immediate pardon for the dog. I'll chain you naked to a tree and leave you some dirty water in a pie plate if you like. Tell me you'd be sane after the first few weeks.
 
2013-02-02 07:44:36 PM  

Government Fromage: Clearly we need reasonable legislation to protect us from these assault dogs with their high capacity mouths.


Animal control legislation is tyranny!

Americans have a god-given right to keep tigers and grizzly bears in their children's bedrooms with no intrusive background checks or socialist government regulations!
 
2013-02-02 07:45:21 PM  
Every pitbull I've ever come across has been sweet as hell.
 
2013-02-02 07:47:23 PM  

dookdookdook: Government Fromage: Clearly we need reasonable legislation to protect us from these assault dogs with their high capacity mouths.

Animal control legislation is tyranny!

Americans have a god-given right to keep tigers and grizzly bears in their children's bedrooms with no intrusive background checks or socialist government regulations!


No No No we need to limit them to 10 teeth. (7 in NY), and they don't need dangerous features such as leashes or collars or doggie sweaters.
 
2013-02-02 07:47:35 PM  

dookdookdook: doglover: The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal

So...

1) Slavery wouldn't have happened if the slaves were armed.
2) Dogs are slaves

Therefore

3) Dogs should be armed to prevent animal abuse.


That's a dog-gun good idea.

/not really, just goin for the pun.
 
2013-02-02 07:47:46 PM  

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?

Citation needed.

I've yet to see more than one story of a dog just eating a baby, and that was a daschund. Y'know, the breed responsible for the most bites per capita but no one cares because they're tiny?

Most stories about pit bull attacks I've read start with "He got out of his kennel." or "His chain broke." That's an immediate pardon for the dog. I'll chain you naked to a tree and leave you some dirty water in a pie plate if you like. Tell me you'd be sane after the first few weeks.


Hey, you don't know what kind of kink I'm into...

/bigot
//don't judge me
 
2013-02-02 07:48:53 PM  

Moonfisher: I had a landlord tell me my dog violated the lease, which barred tenents from having pitbulls. My dog was a bassette hound. She made me prove it by bringing a letter from the vet. Dog racism: almost as stupid as people racism.


Should have asked him to play Find the Pit Bull:

Link

/Breed Specific Legislation is a lazy solution to the problem of irresponsible dog ownership
 
2013-02-02 07:54:20 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator, would never stop. It would never leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get drunk and hit him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.


Awesome.
 
2013-02-02 07:55:03 PM  
I've met a lot of pit bulls in my day.  First thing they do when they meet a new person is grab their favorite toy and show it off.  An old neighbor's pit bull would push her toys under the gate then whimper until I came downstairs and tossed them back over the fence (and spent a few minutes scratching her belly, of course).
 
2013-02-02 07:57:52 PM  

thenumber5: lewismarktwo: Craziest, meanest dog I ever saw was a black lab.

my uncle had a Coonhound that was completely insane and out to kill anything that moved


My neighbor has a Chihuahua that would bloody murder my big toe if I took my shoe off.

/sadly serious
 
2013-02-02 08:00:21 PM  
The fact is that a pitbull needs to eat at least three mailmen per year just to stay alive.
 
2013-02-02 08:04:24 PM  
I remember seeing a list of dog attacks on humans broken down by breed of dog and age of victim. What struck me was all of the breeds, likely to bite or not, said something like "63% children/37% adult" plus or minus about 5% except boxers, which were like 43% children/57% adult bite victims. Much less likely to bite kids than adults.
 
2013-02-02 08:10:15 PM  
Dogs that are big enough need to be socialized to children to know that they're family.

When you're a big animal that evolved to hunt like that your natural assumption when you see something little scurrying around is "hey, food!"

Nevertheless, I don't know about pitbulls. I'm sure people freak out about them unduly, but I would not want a dog that had that kind of killing power.
 
2013-02-02 08:16:48 PM  

doglover: The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward.


Weapons grade stupid.
 
2013-02-02 08:16:49 PM  
PUPPIES!
 
2013-02-02 08:19:33 PM  
We need a law similar to Canada's "Truth in Journalism" act. Media could still say anything it wants to as long as non-factual pieces are clearly marked "Editorial" or "Opinion." Anything presented as an actual news item needs to meet certain basic fact-checking standards. The rights of the people to be given factual, unsensationalized news on which to base their decisions outweighs the right of media to enjoy completely uncontrolled, anarchical "free speach."

Lying or exagerating in a news story needs to be treated as the journalistic equivalent of shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater. I'm looking at YOU, Faux News (though all media's guilty to some extent.)
 
2013-02-02 08:19:52 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Yet another thread about the god damn NRA?



A skinny little white guy goes into an elevator, looks up and
sees this HUGE black guy standing next to him.
The big guy sees the little guy staring at him, looks down and
says"7 feet tall, 350 pounds, 20 inch member, 3 pound left testicle, 3
pound right testicle, Turner Brown."
The white man faints and falls to the floor.
The big guy kneels down and brings him to, shaking him. The big guy
says, "What's wrong with you?"
In a weak voice the little guy says, "What EXACTLY did you say to me? "
The big dude says, "I saw your curious look and figured I'd just
give you the answers to the questions everyone always asks me.
I'm 7 feet tall, I weigh 350 pounds, I have a 20 inch private, my left
testicle weighs 3 pounds, my right testicle weighs 3 pounds, and my
name is Turner Brown."
The small guy says, "Turner Brown!...Sweet Jesus, I thought you said, "Turn Around
 
2013-02-02 08:24:47 PM  

DPXFP2: Dogs that are big enough need to be socialized to children to know that they're family.

When you're a big animal that evolved to hunt like that your natural assumption when you see something little scurrying around is "hey, food!"

Nevertheless, I don't know about pitbulls. I'm sure people freak out about them unduly, but I would not want a dog that had that kind of killing power.




WTH? ALL dogs need to be properly socialized. The worst dogs I've been around have been the ankle biter variety. Why? Cause their farking owners don't think they need to be trained because they are small.
 
2013-02-02 08:25:16 PM  

jtown: I've met a lot of pit bulls in my day.  First thing they do when they meet a new person is grab their favorite toy and show it off.  An old neighbor's pit bull would push her toys under the gate then whimper until I came downstairs and tossed them back over the fence (and spent a few minutes scratching her belly, of course).


I only know one pit bull, but she's harmless. ( can be annoying, however; her owner hasn't done a good job curbing begging and attention-seeking behavior, IMHO...)
 
2013-02-02 08:26:17 PM  
I play it safe be remaining a :"crazy cat person"..

/'Nuff said
 
2013-02-02 08:28:15 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Yet another thread about the god damn NRA?


We are the NRA.

/so bite me
 
2013-02-02 08:29:54 PM  
Just try and get close to that baby. your funeral.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
 
2013-02-02 08:36:05 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Just try to get close to that baby!
 
2013-02-02 08:39:24 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
newly hired?
 
2013-02-02 08:42:18 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

It can be a solid plan.
 
2013-02-02 08:43:00 PM  
Thought the article would be about cats and how their uncontrolled behavior is resulting in the millions of native species that are mindlessly killed by them.
And the children part would be about how society brain-washes little girls and little girly-boys into believing that cats make good pets.
 
2013-02-02 08:43:02 PM  

lewismarktwo: Craziest, meanest dog I ever saw was a black lab.


For me it was a dachshund.  Pure evil in a little package.  My daughter's bull terrier is stubborn as a mule, but generally a gentle and friendly scaredy-cat.
 
2013-02-02 08:43:06 PM  

doglover: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Pit Bulls are one of the nicest dog breeds by volume.

The problem is, much like guns, is that the average person is coward. The average person doesn't want to say "Poor young men from the inner city have a farked up culture and they like kill each other and abuse animals for sport because it gives them status in their farked up little world." They don't want to admit that "If someone beat me with a stick all the time and shocked my balls with a taser and then left me chained to a tree and hungry I'd probably chew somoene's face off, too." because they're afraid of the truth about all life, even themselves.

The truth is that dogs are a slave caste of animal and pit bulls are the preferred breed to train up as gladiators and thugs. Why? Because when they bite, they mean business. They're used and abused and trained up into biters to maximize the mouth. That doesn't mean they're naturally more violent. It's like saying blacks naturally tended to chain themselves up, avoid education, and perform back-breaking physical labor in Colonial America. Something that is inflicted upon a group is not a natural trait of that group.

So all those people who say, "He was sweet as pie until he ate the baby" are lying?

Citation needed.

I've yet to see more than one story of a dog just eating a baby, and that was a daschund. Y'know, the breed responsible for the most bites per capita but no one cares because they're tiny?


I mentioned to you, quite recently, that trying to ridicule someone by taking his words too literally often backfires.
 
2013-02-02 08:44:23 PM  

DownDaRiver: Thought the article would be about cats and how their uncontrolled behavior is resulting in the millions of native species that are mindlessly killed by them.
And the children part would be about how society brain-washes little girls and little girly-boys into believing that cats make good pets.


Cats are not pets; they're parasites.
 
2013-02-02 08:49:23 PM  
This seems more likely than I'd think
 
2013-02-02 08:56:48 PM  
So much like guns the argument seems to be Pit Bulls are perfectly safe in the hands of white suburbanites but when urban blacks have them they become dispensers of death and carnage.
 
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