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(WTKR)   Cold-hearted copper thieves steal all of the heaters from free health clinic, which can't afford to replace them. And you thought your doctor's hands were cold   (wtkr.com) divider line 45
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2013-02-02 02:43:14 PM
"What we really need to do is enclose the new equipment when we get it into fencing cages with locks and security cameras," she says.  The price tag for future protection is $10,000.

If you think it'll cost that much to secure some equipment ...well I can see why you've got no profits lady.
 
2013-02-02 03:14:34 PM
Farkin' tweekers.

You can take the change from my ashtray, but don't take the whole damn ash tray! WHO DOES THAT?
 
2013-02-02 03:33:18 PM
Why are the heaters outside?  Are they burning coal or something?
 
2013-02-02 03:48:14 PM
Copper thieves should be given 10 lashes when caught, you'll see a drop off in theft then.
 
2013-02-02 03:49:07 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Why are the heaters outside?  Are they burning coal or something?


Portable ones that'd been wheeled outside maybe.
 
2013-02-02 03:52:07 PM
at least they got their methamphetamine, so they could go outside and masturbate
 
2013-02-02 03:53:40 PM
They're giving out FREE healthcare?!

I think we know who the real criminals are in this story.

Goddamned fascist commies! Wouldn't be surprised if they prescribe birth control to sluts too.

STRING THEM UP!!!
 
2013-02-02 03:58:23 PM
You know who would be my lead suspect? Someone so poor they have to go to a free clinic.

Interview every patient who visited in the past few weeks who owns a pickup. Should only be about 94% of all people in the area.
 
2013-02-02 03:58:51 PM
If the metal recyclers didn't buy this copper, there would be no market for these stolen materials.

Just saying/
 
2013-02-02 03:59:02 PM
Serves them right for being a cheapskate clinic.
 
2013-02-02 04:00:58 PM
Call me kookie but I would think a health clinic that might have all sorts of pharmaceuticals in their drawers should have alarms and cameras. Even veterinary clinics & animal shelters have to take precautions against scumbags.
 
2013-02-02 04:01:36 PM
We need stronger, sensible wrench control.  There's no reason for civilians that they HAVE to own them.   There's no constitutional right to a wrench.  If we just made sure wrenches were available for people who need them, like plumbers and mechanics--it would certainly be a big help against copper thieves (and other wrench-equipped ne'er-do-wells).  In fact--I'm sure every person in that clinic would gladly give up their wrench if it meant their heat could be on.
 
2013-02-02 04:03:17 PM
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2013-02-02 04:04:21 PM

nickdaisy: You know who would be my lead suspect?


Copper, not lead.
 
2013-02-02 04:11:14 PM

BumpInTheNight: "What we really need to do is enclose the new equipment when we get it into fencing cages with locks and security cameras," she says.  The price tag for future protection is $10,000.

If you think it'll cost that much to secure some equipment ...well I can see why you've got no profits lady.


You sound like someone that's never had commercial HVAC equipment stolen and paid for enclosures around the replacements.
 
2013-02-02 04:14:48 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: BarkingUnicorn: Why are the heaters outside?  Are they burning coal or something?

Portable ones that'd been wheeled outside maybe.


Heat pumps. They're air conditioners that also work in reverse to pull energy from the outside air and pump it to the inside, as opposed to what A/C does, which takes energy from the inside air and pumps it outside. Anyhow, the outside unit has a giant copper coil inside. And most commercial buildings are heated and cooled with them.
 
2013-02-02 04:14:54 PM
One of our offices in TX was shut down a week or two ago by copper thieves. The wire was running underground, so they cut it by the office and cut it down the street where it entered the ground, then apparently pulled it out of the ground with a pickup truck and made their escape. When they cut it at the end down the street it was still live and caused all sorts of fire damage, apparently. Shut the operations of not just our office, but the other businesses in that business park too.

So much damage and cost for so many people, just so the thieves could sell it for such a comparatively small payoff.
 
2013-02-02 04:15:43 PM
Heaters? Copper?? I Can't think of any heaters that use copper? I smell insurance scam!
 
2013-02-02 04:16:43 PM

BumpInTheNight: "What we really need to do is enclose the new equipment when we get it into fencing cages with locks and security cameras," she says.  The price tag for future protection is $10,000.

If you think it'll cost that much to secure some equipment ...well I can see why you've got no profits lady.


To hire a contractor to build a secure, tall fence or other enclosure(s) around five commercial heat pumps? As well as some sort of lock setup for each unit? $10,000 sounds about right.
 
2013-02-02 04:18:47 PM
No no, I've found the real problem (well, aside from scrap metal thieves, who are already less than shiat). FTA:

To help the clinic offset the deductible and security costs, you can mail a donation to their office or donate on their website.

Bolded mine. It's not that they can't afford new heaters, it's that their insurance company is raping them. How about we have some public shaming of the insurance company to help offset the cost?
 
2013-02-02 04:20:34 PM

happyhshoe: If the metal recyclers didn't buy this copper, there would be no market for these stolen materials.

Just saying/


Regulate 'em! All we need is more laws and everything will be fine!
 
2013-02-02 04:23:27 PM

Vector R: No no, I've found the real problem (well, aside from scrap metal thieves, who are already less than shiat). FTA:

To help the clinic offset the deductible and security costs, you can mail a donation to their office or donate on their website.

Bolded mine. It's not that they can't afford new heaters, it's that their insurance company is raping them. How about we have some public shaming of the insurance company to help offset the cost?


Their insurance company is charging the deductible that was agreed to upon issuance of the policy. I fail to see the problem here.

Or are you suggesting non-profits should receive zero-deductible insurance?
 
2013-02-02 04:23:40 PM

BravadoGT: We need stronger, sensible wrench control.  There's no reason for civilians that they HAVE to own them.   There's no constitutional right to a wrench.  If we just made sure wrenches were available for people who need them, like plumbers and mechanics--it would certainly be a big help against copper thieves (and other wrench-equipped ne'er-do-wells).  In fact--I'm sure every person in that clinic would gladly give up their wrench if it meant their heat could be on.


Great point, you're an idiot i believe it now.
 
2013-02-02 04:29:14 PM

Buffet: Heaters? Copper?? I Can't think of any heaters that use copper? I smell insurance scam!


See my post above.

happyhshoe: If the metal recyclers didn't buy this copper, there would be no market for these stolen materials.

Just saying/


What do you suggest to combat this? Forbid the practice of scrap metal recycling? The world would run out of metal fairly quickly. Sure, there are scrap dealers who know damn well that some of what's coming in is stolen. And those need to be figured out and dealt with. Here in Columbus, there's several measures being taken to combat metal theft. First, Scrap dealers have to check IDs of anyone selling scrap, and log their name, address, and phone number as well as description (usually they scan the ID into a computer) They then assign a number and tag whatever the individual brought in so they can trace who sold what. Police do spot checks of the scrap dealers to verify that this is being done, and to look for anything that was reported stolen. Second, they set up stings. One thing they did was take some unclaimed, broken- down cars that were to be junked from the impound lot, put GPS trackers in them, and place them on the side of the road in various parts of town. ALL of them ended up at one particular scrap facility that was known for accepting cars without titles (a BIG no- no) The owner was fined and shut down for a while. Stuff that was stolen from where I work (I'm the equipment mechanic and tech guy at an automotive salvage yard) has ended up at that particular scrap dealer, too. Once, my boss went down there to identify a car that had been taken from outside our gate, and saw a giant cart full of City of Columbus manhole covers. The owner got fined, and the facility's license was revoked. It has since been sold and has reopened with new owners, and so far, there haven't been any huge problems.
 
2013-02-02 04:30:30 PM
 
2013-02-02 04:32:28 PM
I predict this being a trifecta.

Followup: Donations raised in amounts enough to renovate the entire HVAC system at said clinic.Followup 2: Remember that clinic that had the copper stolen and Fark raised enough to help them out? Ya turns out the people that ran it are the ones that stole the copper.
 
2013-02-02 04:49:27 PM
You would think that residential and commercial units would be built in such a way that you could wrap a big @ss chain through the coil and attach it to something permanent like a ceiling beam.  Yes, tweakers could still get it, but then it would take a lot more work to get.

In Georgia (and several other states) they have made it so to bring in HVAC and similar equipment to recyclers you need to have a business license.
 
2013-02-02 04:53:37 PM

President Merkin Muffley: I predict this being a trifecta.

Followup: Donations raised in amounts enough to renovate the entire HVAC system at said clinic.Followup 2: Remember that clinic that had the copper stolen and Fark raised enough to help them out? Ya turns out the people that stole it came back for another visit.


ftfy
 
2013-02-02 05:05:01 PM

Vector R: No no, I've found the real problem (well, aside from scrap metal thieves, who are already less than shiat). FTA:

To help the clinic offset the deductible and security costs, you can mail a donation to their office or donate on their website.

Bolded mine. It's not that they can't afford new heaters, it's that their insurance company is raping them. How about we have some public shaming of the insurance company to help offset the cost?


Deductibles are rape?  I thought rape was non-consensual.
 
2013-02-02 05:05:50 PM

Arcanaloth: Copper thieves should be given 10 lashes when caught, you'll see a drop off in theft then.


I doubt it. You seem to think that these folks are capable of learning.
 
2013-02-02 05:06:41 PM
Next thing you know, these cold calloused copper capers will be clutching copper clappers, kept in the closet that were taken by Clarence Cooper, the kleptomaniac from Cleveland.

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2013-02-02 05:08:54 PM
People need copper far more often than they need health care.  Copper should be free. Then there'd be no incentive to steal  it.
 
2013-02-02 05:17:50 PM

BarkingUnicorn: People need copper far more often than they need health care.  Copper should be free. Then there'd be no incentive to steal  it.


where you gonna make it from?  a 3D printer?
 
2013-02-02 05:25:02 PM

BarkingUnicorn: People need copper far more often than they need health care.  Copper should be free. Then there'd be no incentive to steal  it.


You are terrible.
 
2013-02-02 06:00:22 PM
I know it is hard to catch thieves, but how hard could it be to find the basterd who is buying the stuff from them?
 
2013-02-02 06:58:59 PM

p51d007: Next thing you know, these cold calloused copper capers will be clutching copper clappers, kept in the closet that were taken by Clarence Cooper, the kleptomaniac from Cleveland.

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2013-02-02 08:07:19 PM
I still think that if we just handed out drugs for free would solve the problem. Just hand out bags and bags of pure coke, meth, heroin, whatever. 6 months and you'd clear up the problem.Sort of believe this. Usually with a doctor's inspections.
 
2013-02-02 10:33:39 PM
Just think how much they will save on utlilty expenses.
They will be able to afford more disposable gloves. Not to be confused with condoms. Which they will also be able to buy more of.
Put on a sweater sweetheart.
 
2013-02-02 11:39:33 PM

A Shambling Mound: Vector R: No no, I've found the real problem (well, aside from scrap metal thieves, who are already less than shiat). FTA:

To help the clinic offset the deductible and security costs, you can mail a donation to their office or donate on their website.

Bolded mine. It's not that they can't afford new heaters, it's that their insurance company is raping them. How about we have some public shaming of the insurance company to help offset the cost?

Their insurance company is charging the deductible that was agreed to upon issuance of the policy. I fail to see the problem here.

Or are you suggesting non-profits should receive zero-deductible insurance?


That's not the impression I was given. I was was led to believe (after reading the article) that the deductible was being raised a significant amount. The clinic can get new heaters for free because they were covered by the insurance policy, so the $10,000+ they're asking for comes down to protecting the new heaters and paying the insurance deductible. The normal cost of the deductible is certainly factored into their day-to-day operating expenses, so if suddenly insurance has become a problem for them despite the damage being fully covered, that implies the insurance company is jacking up their rates to compensate because !someone is actually using their insurance! D:
 
2013-02-03 12:37:08 AM
Approves
 
2013-02-03 12:40:35 AM
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2013-02-03 01:01:14 AM
Im pretty sure stealing from a free clinic is grounds for special hell.
 
2013-02-03 01:13:05 AM

Solid Muldoon: I know it is hard to catch thieves, but how hard could it be to find the basterd who is buying the stuff from them?


That cold-hearted snake shouldn't be that hard to spot.  They should be able to just look into his eyes and see he's been telling lies.
 
2013-02-03 11:42:36 AM
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Just stick a couple of these in there. They'll be opening the windows to cool off within the half hour.

/ but be careful... CO risk!!
 
2013-02-03 11:45:50 AM

Solid Muldoon: I know it is hard to catch thieves, but how hard could it be to find the basterd who is buying the stuff from them?


That would be the scrap yard owners who would have no idea where the metal came from . Every day scrap yards recieve many tons of metal from hundreds of companies and individuals . If they suspect something is stolen ( for instance brand new copper ) they may call the police .
 
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