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2013-02-02 10:45:45 AM  
In conclusion, our results support the possibility of adverse effects of fluoride exposures on children's neurodevelopment. Future research should formally evaluate dose-response relations based on individual-level measures of exposure over time, including more precise prenatal exposure assessment and more extensive standardized measures of neurobehavioral performance, in addition to improving assessment and control of potential confounders.

Doesn't sound like they concluded anything other than that there's some correlation and someone should look in to it.
 
2013-02-02 10:46:37 AM  

Rindred: Yeah, and MMS will totally cure your cancer and acne at the same time, and the FDA is warning you away because they're conspiring with Big Pharma to keep it a secret (totally not because mixing it with fruit juice turns it into bleach - ignore the lies)!


MMS?

<goes off to Google "MMS">

<goes off to google "Miracle Mineral Solution">

... o.O

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-02 10:46:58 AM  

forcebender: His wikipedia entry is quite interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

To sum:  Pretty much thinks we should bring medical practices back to the 18th century.  And he has the leading website for alternative fringe 'medical' theories.


Hang on a second. This guy's one of the few brilliant minds trying to make sure that sheeple wake up and smell the AIDS conspiracy: HIV doesn't cause AIDS. I mean, look at the letters, even. They've got, like, nothing in common. Just an I. How can 3 letters become 4, mostly different letters?
 
2013-02-02 10:47:57 AM  
*checks URL*

Huffington Post AND that nutjob Mercola? Hell farking no. Go to hell, subby.
 
2013-02-02 10:51:29 AM  

jfarkinB: Rindred: Yeah, and MMS will totally cure your cancer and acne at the same time, and the FDA is warning you away because they're conspiring with Big Pharma to keep it a secret (totally not because mixing it with fruit juice turns it into bleach - ignore the lies)!

MMS?

<goes off to Google "MMS">

<goes off to google "Miracle Mineral Solution">

... o.O

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 292x302]


I know....I did the same thing, and somehow it turned into a video of a Mom talking about curing her autistic son with Chlorine Dioxide enemas. I need a vacation from this fracking planet.
 
2013-02-02 10:52:03 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: *checks URL*

Huffington Post AND that nutjob Mercola? Hell farking no. Go to hell, subby.




Maybe he isn't a nutjob. Maybe he's riding the tendency for some people (sadly, all too often educated people who really should know better) to believe in the naturalistic fallacy straight to an early retirement. A very well funded retirement.
 
2013-02-02 10:59:07 AM  

Mcaffolder: So wait.... is fluoride bad or good?


It's like salt. A little bit will help, too much and you've got problems. A tiny amount of fluoride prevents tooth decay, too much causes brittle bones. They're trying to claim that areas with tonnes of natural fluoride present in water sources in rural China are correlated with lowered IQs by a whopping half point. I'm pretty sure the lead and mercury emitted burning fossil fuels would be a way bigger source of concern, not to mention the particulate matter blocking everyone's lungs.
 
2013-02-02 11:13:47 AM  
59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!
 
2013-02-02 11:19:25 AM  

Head_Shot: ...it turned into a video of a Mom talking about curing her autistic son with Chlorine Dioxide enemas.


He was probably just faking it and straightened up to avoid another dose of the cure.
 
2013-02-02 11:25:14 AM  

eggrolls: I grew up in Newburgh NY, one of the first towns to have fluoridated water.

I have a Masters degree... from Harvard.

Draw your own conclusions.


One of two. Either affirmative action, or mommy used bottled water.
 
2013-02-02 11:25:16 AM  

Ronin_S: Mcaffolder: So wait.... is fluoride bad or good?

It's like salt almost anything. A little bit will help, too much and you've got problems.


FTFY. Even water will kill you if you drink too much at once.
 
2013-02-02 11:26:54 AM  

Ronin_S: Mcaffolder: So wait.... is fluoride bad or good?

It's like salt. A little bit will help, too much and you've got problems. A tiny amount of fluoride prevents tooth decay, too much causes brittle bones. They're trying to claim that areas with tonnes of natural fluoride present in water sources in rural China are correlated with lowered IQs by a whopping half point. I'm pretty sure the lead and mercury emitted burning fossil fuels would be a way bigger source of concern, not to mention the particulate matter blocking everyone's lungs.



Fluoride is only useful for its intended purpose (remineralizing the teeth) when applied TOPICALLY, as in ON YOUR TEETH, as in toothpaste, mouth rinse, etc.

It provides no such benefit if taken internally (swallowing in water food, Pepsi, Coke, beer, etc) or externally (showing, bathing, washing your hair, dog clothes car etc.)

Conversely, the RISKS associated with fluoride WHEN APPLIED TOPICALLY TO THE TEETH are minimal, whereas taking fluoride INTERNALLY can be toxic.

So we're adding fluoride to the municipal water systems... why?

Adding fluoride to municipal water systems makes as much sense as spraying sunscreen from crop dusters.
 
2013-02-02 11:27:29 AM  
But wait... if ingesting more than 10 times the amount of fluoride that is in our fluoridated water is bad... what else is the government not telling us? I've been taking 10 times the amount of blood pressure medication that I was prescribed and feeding my kids 10 times the amount of their multi-vitamins every day. Next you'll tell me that's not healthy either! Damned government,
 
2013-02-02 11:28:06 AM  
OK. We can relax now. The House That Opium Built has confirmed what sensible people have long known.

Sodium fluoride is f***ing bad for you. And drug warlords should know.
 
2013-02-02 11:29:28 AM  

Millennium: Ronin_S: Mcaffolder: So wait.... is fluoride bad or good?

It's like salt almost anything. A little bit will help, too much and you've got problems.

FTFY. Even water will kill you if you drink too much at once.


HARVARD STUDY: WATER IS DEADLY
 
2013-02-02 11:29:46 AM  
Did anyone here actually read the 32 page report ( not written by Mercola )?The irony in posting the Asimov picture made me lol.
 
2013-02-02 11:36:21 AM  
Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...


WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.
 
2013-02-02 11:37:05 AM  
Fluoride is just a cover so you ignore the dihydrogen monoxide in our water systems.

www.bobbyshred.com
 
2013-02-02 11:41:03 AM  

Lolpwnt: [whoosh]


Win.
 
2013-02-02 11:46:22 AM  

jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!



Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?
 
2013-02-02 11:49:58 AM  
huffpo, for when fox is to reliable a source
 
2013-02-02 11:52:26 AM  

Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?


I'm originally from Salina. I think, and Salina included, Wichita is a little late on that stupid.
 
2013-02-02 11:58:09 AM  

Lolpwnt: Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...

WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.




Well intentioned, but you went after the wrong guy. Make no mistake, there are, and will be more, people posting in this thread who deserve your contempt (I have Clemkadidlefark marked as "Insane abiogenesis guy") but Mr. Ninja is joking.
 
2013-02-02 11:59:49 AM  

Lolpwnt: Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...

WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.


PocketNinja is a known and lauded... performance artist around here.  I doubt he means anything he says, ever.
 
2013-02-02 12:04:16 PM  
I did not think Huff Po could be less credible... The Harvard studies were done in areas where high levels of fluoride naturally occur in the drinking water, not in those with added fluoride. Oddly enough, Mercola relies on those with a low IQ, as they are the ones who buy his woo.
 
2013-02-02 12:04:40 PM  

Lolpwnt: WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap? You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro? Not chemicals. As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.


Of course you're an organic chemist, what else could you be? An inorganic chemist? You can't fool me. Computers aren't that smart.

/the joke occurred to me after I hit add
//had to share
///organic slashies come in 3s
 
2013-02-02 12:20:12 PM  

Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?


Quite possibly for the additional antimicrobial properties like the chlorine residual many places add.
 
2013-02-02 12:26:15 PM  
Me like floride. I in basement in Newburgh new york. I like yankees and pooping in dipers
 
2013-02-02 12:28:50 PM  
Dr Mercola is allowed to write articles on Huffington Post? I will no longer visit that site and now put it on par with Fox News in the retardedness.

The guy is a scam artist. Read up his wiki article or check out the bullshiat his webpage sells.

Check out this shiat

The guy is a snake oil salesman
 
2013-02-02 12:36:56 PM  

Amos Quito: Ronin_S: Mcaffolder: So wait.... is fluoride bad or good?

It's like salt. A little bit will help, too much and you've got problems. A tiny amount of fluoride prevents tooth decay, too much causes brittle bones. They're trying to claim that areas with tonnes of natural fluoride present in water sources in rural China are correlated with lowered IQs by a whopping half point. I'm pretty sure the lead and mercury emitted burning fossil fuels would be a way bigger source of concern, not to mention the particulate matter blocking everyone's lungs.


Fluoride is only useful for its intended purpose (remineralizing the teeth) when applied TOPICALLY, as in ON YOUR TEETH, as in toothpaste, mouth rinse, etc.

It provides no such benefit if taken internally (swallowing in water food, Pepsi, Coke, beer, etc) or externally (showing, bathing, washing your hair, dog clothes car etc.)

Conversely, the RISKS associated with fluoride WHEN APPLIED TOPICALLY TO THE TEETH are minimal, whereas taking fluoride INTERNALLY can be toxic.

So we're adding fluoride to the municipal water systems... why?

Adding fluoride to municipal water systems makes as much sense as spraying sunscreen from crop dusters.


I would have gone with "drinking sunscreen", but I get your point.

Wait...would that work?
 
2013-02-02 12:44:18 PM  

Sheseala: Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?

Quite possibly for the additional antimicrobial properties like the chlorine residual many places add.


I've been in countries that depended on chlorine systems.  It works, and its safe, but everything tastes like pool water.
Since I live on a cistern I treat my own rain water and know it doesn't have to taste like that to be safe.

I'll wager its about avoiding the liability than anything.
No one wants a cholera outbreak on their watch, so they make sure the water is just toxic enough to be safe.

/I also wonder if there isn't some correlation = causation factor to this.
/Communities that can afford better systems can afford better schools, etc...
 
2013-02-02 12:45:54 PM  

machoprogrammer: Dr Mercola is allowed to write articles on Huffington Post? I will no longer visit that site and now put it on par with Fox News in the retardedness.


You're just realizing this now?
 
2013-02-02 12:49:35 PM  

Lolpwnt: Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...

WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.


i93.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-02 12:54:15 PM  

Jormungandr: Lolpwnt: Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...

WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.

PocketNinja is a known and lauded... performance artist around here.  I doubt he means anything he says, ever.


Yup.  Favorite him in a unique color and move on with your day.

/PocketNinja will always be light blue to me...
 
2013-02-02 12:58:39 PM  

Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?




Your post leaves us in a bit of a quandary. Either you are smarter than the scientists who work for the CDC, or you are able to see through the smokescreen, and peek into that vast conspiracy that is the "real" reason they are advocating the intentional fluoridation of drinking water.
 
2013-02-02 01:00:24 PM  
Huh, the "good old days" (from the linked paper, emphasis added): At the beginning of the 20th century, extensive dental caries was common in the United States and in most developed countries (2). No effective measures existed for preventing this disease, and the most frequent treatment was tooth extraction. Failure to meet the minimum standard of having six opposing teeth was a leading cause of rejection from military service in both world wars (3,4). Pioneering oral epidemiologists developed an index to measure the prevalence of dental caries using the number of decayed, missing, or filled teeth (DMFT) or decayed, missing, or filled tooth surfaces (DMFS) (5) rather than merely presence of dental caries, in part because nearly all persons in most age groups in the United States had evidence of the disease. Application of the DMFT index in epidemiologic surveys throughout the United States in the 1930s and 1940s allowed quantitative distinctions in dental caries experience among communities--an innovation that proved critical in identifying a preventive agent and evaluating its effects.
 
2013-02-02 01:04:39 PM  
Whenever I hear of someone pining for the simple life of the nineteenth century, I just ask them about what they think a trip to the dentist was like back then. Assuming you lived anywhere close to one. I've had an abscessed tooth, and the pain was intense; luckily, I was able to get antibiotics and NSAIDS, and get a root canal fairly quickly. Imagine that pain for days or weeks.
 
2013-02-02 01:13:35 PM  
Get rid of fluoride immediately!  Dentists everywhere need more of your money.
 
2013-02-02 01:20:55 PM  
The study was pertaining to children exposed to waters polluted with extreme levels of fluoride, either through naturally occurring groundwater or through industrial pollution.

The amount of fluoride you get from municipal water fluoridation comes nowhere close to the levels necessary to actually do you any harm.
 
2013-02-02 01:24:38 PM  
The hodge-podge of units makes me crazy.  What is an Smol?  And ppm has always annoyed me; sometimes it's by mass and sometimes it's by mole.
 
2013-02-02 01:30:20 PM  

portnoyd: machoprogrammer: Dr Mercola is allowed to write articles on Huffington Post? I will no longer visit that site and now put it on par with Fox News in the retardedness.

You're just realizing this now?


I was never aware they were that bad. I actually would say it is worse than Fox News.
 
2013-02-02 01:31:53 PM  
So the next time people try and criticize creationists for their pseudoscience nonsense, they'll be able to point to this article and say "See?  Both sides are bad!".

Thanks for nothing, HuffPost
 
2013-02-02 01:35:33 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Jormungandr: Lolpwnt: Pocket Ninja:  fluoride, while highly explosive when combined with certain other chemicals like nitro and glyco, also had properties that made it very beneficial to human tissue, particularly bones and teeth.

Can you imagine their shock? It was like when they'd discovered penicillin by accident, those early, happy years before they'd learned about how penicillin causes impotence. And so they did some quick retinkering to the  nitroglycofluoride formula, pulled out the fluoride and replaced it with cerin, and presto! Really good explo ...

WTF kind of "baffle them with bullshiat" pseudo-chemistry is this crap?  You probably fall for all the "quantum healing through science!" type infomercial stuff don't you?

Cerin, glyco, nitro?  Not chemicals.  As an organic chemist I weep for humanity when this complete bullshiat is accepted as truth by anyone.

PocketNinja is a known and lauded... performance artist around here.  I doubt he means anything he says, ever.

Yup.  Favorite him in a unique color and move on with your day.

/PocketNinja will always be light blue to me...


He is orange for me. I would make him plaid if I could.
 
2013-02-02 01:40:10 PM  

spacelord321: Did anyone here actually read the 32 page report ( not written by Mercola )?The irony in posting the Asimov picture made me lol.


It's easier to be smugly condescending than to actually read the report.
 
2013-02-02 01:56:11 PM  
www.downandnerdy.org
 
2013-02-02 02:04:53 PM  

Repo Man: Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?

Your post leaves us in a bit of a quandary. Either you are smarter than the scientists who work for the CDC,



Had you read my previous post, you would have seen that I said "Fluoride is only useful for its intended purpose (remineralizing the teeth) when applied TOPICALLY, as in ON YOUR TEETH, as in toothpaste, mouth rinse, etc."

Nothing in the CDC doc you cited contradicts that statement.

Water.

We drink it, we bathe in it, we cook with it, we water our plants with it, wash our clothes with it, we flush out toilets with it.

The theory is that adding fluoride to ALL THAT WATER will prevent dental caries. What percentage of that actually comes into contact with the dental surfaces, supposedly serving the INTENDED PURPOSE of water fluoridation?

Far more water (and fluoride) passes through your gut and into your system than makes contact with the teeth.

"Over the teeth, past the gums, look out stomach, here it comes"!


From MedScape:


Pathophysiology

Fluoride has several mechanisms of toxicity. Ingested fluoride initially acts locally on the intestinal mucosa. It can form hydrofluoric acid in the stomach, which leads to GI irritation or corrosive effects. Following ingestion, the GI tract is the earliest and most commonly affected organ system.

Once absorbed, fluoride binds calcium ions and may lead to hypocalcemia. Fluoride has direct cytotoxic effects and interferes with a number of enzyme systems; it disrupts oxidative phosphorylation, glycolysis, coagulation, and neurotransmission (by binding calcium). Fluoride inhibits Na+/K+ -ATPase, which may lead to hyperkalemia by extracellular release of potassium. Fluoride inhibits acetylcholinesterase, which may be partly responsible for hypersalivation, vomiting, and diarrhea (cholinergic signs). Seizures may result from both hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia. Severe fluoride toxicity will result in multiorgan failure. Central vasomotor depression as well as direct cardiotoxicity also may occur. Death usually results from respiratory paralysis, dysrhythmia, or cardiac failure.

END QUOTE

Of course these are at large doses, but the POINT is that while fluoride may be dandy for TOPICAL APPLICATION, it is NOT BENEFICIAL in ANY AMOUNT when taken internally.

Quite the contrary.
 
2013-02-02 02:10:43 PM  
i1102.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-02 02:17:54 PM  

Amos Quito: Repo Man: Amos Quito: jayhawk88: 59% of Wichita voters rejected putting fluoride in the cities water supply. In 2012.

Yeah, but it's the fluoride that will make us stupid. Nevermind the fact that the tap water starts smelling like sewage several times a month around here. OMG FLUORIDE!


Will the fluoride make the water stop smelling like sewage?

Does drinking (or bathing or showering in) fluoride confer ANY health benefit?

If not, why add fluoride?

Your post leaves us in a bit of a quandary. Either you are smarter than the scientists who work for the CDC,


Had you read my previous post, you would have seen that I said "Fluoride is only useful for its intended purpose (remineralizing the teeth) when applied TOPICALLY, as in ON YOUR TEETH, as in toothpaste, mouth rinse, etc."

Nothing in the CDC doc you cited contradicts that statement.

Water.

We drink it, we bathe in it, we cook with it, we water our plants with it, wash our clothes with it, we flush out toilets with it.

The theory is that adding fluoride to ALL THAT WATER will prevent dental caries. What percentage of that actually comes into contact with the dental surfaces, supposedly serving the INTENDED PURPOSE of water fluoridation?

Far more water (and fluoride) passes through your gut and into your system than makes contact with the teeth.

"Over the teeth, past the gums, look out stomach, here it comes"!


From MedScape:


Pathophysiology

Fluoride has several mechanisms of toxicity. Ingested fluoride initially acts locally on the intestinal mucosa. It can form hydrofluoric acid in the stomach, which leads to GI irritation or corrosive effects. Following ingestion, the GI tract is the earliest and most commonly affected organ system.

Once absorbed, fluoride binds calcium ions and may lead to hypocalcemia. Fluoride has direct cytotoxic effects and interferes with a number of enzyme systems; it disrupts oxidative phosphorylation, glycolysis, coagulation, and neurotransmission (by binding calcium). Fl ...


The CDC are all for water fluoridation, that is what contradicts your point. Apparently, they recognize benefits that outweigh any potential downside. Why do you think you are smarter than the CDC? Or, alternately, what hidden agenda does the CDC have that you do not? Are the CDC evil or stupid?
 
2013-02-02 02:42:14 PM  
So if a loony guy references a report by Harvard, that report is now as loony as the guy who referenced it???
 
2013-02-02 02:57:41 PM  

spacelord321: Did anyone here actually read the 32 page report ( not written by Mercola )?The irony in posting the Asimov picture made me lol.


knobmaker: spacelord321: Did anyone here actually read the 32 page report ( not written by Mercola )?The irony in posting the Asimov picture made me lol.

It's easier to be smugly condescending than to actually read the report.


Whodat: So if a loony guy references a report by Harvard, that report is now as loony as the guy who referenced it???


I'm a skeptic, I understand the value of questioning what we've been told. The study itself found "The standardized weighted mean difference in IQ score between exposed and reference populations was -0.45 (95% confidence interval: -0.56, -0.35)."  Furthermore: "The exposed groups had access to drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/L (Wang SX et al. 2007); thus, in many cases concentrations were above the levels recommended (0.7-1.2 mg/L; DHHS) or allowed in public drinking water (4.0 mg/L; U.S. EPA) in the United States"

Taken together those two statements that come verbatim from "actually reading the report" tell me that a shiat-ton more fluoride than is allowed in our drinking water is associated with half a point of IQ difference when the data was pooled from 27 different studies. Even if this difference was found at the levels allowable in the US water, I'd be thrilled to trade half a point of my IQ to keep all my teeth in my head.
 
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