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(Daily Mail)   Alabama 'survivalist killer' wants own reality show in exchange for five-year-old hostage   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2013-02-02 07:57:05 AM  

digistil: I've got a dozen published papers dealing with mental illness, so someone thinks I know what I'm talking about.


If that is the case you should know the dangers of remote diagnosis. Have you seen his medical files? Maybe he went off his meds or suffered a chemical imbalance or had the fish for dinner

It could be many things. The troupe of Vietnam vet snaps PTSD is from movies not real life. Most mentally ill are not violent. They are criminal because Regan shutdown mental health services so they get picked up for crimes like vagrancy and trespassing.
 
2013-02-02 07:59:25 AM  

zedster: digistil: I've got a dozen published papers dealing with mental illness, so someone thinks I know what I'm talking about.

If that is the case you should know the dangers of remote diagnosis. Have you seen his medical files? Maybe he went off his meds or suffered a chemical imbalance or had the fish for dinner

It could be many things. The troupe of Vietnam vet snaps PTSD is from movies not real life. Most mentally ill are not violent. They are criminal because Regan shutdown mental health services so they get picked up for crimes like vagrancy and trespassing.


Easy. I'm pretty sure it's light-natured speculation, and no one is trying to make an expert diagnosis at this point.
 
2013-02-02 08:02:20 AM  

willfullyobscure: I seriously hope he's the reason you people get your guns taken away. I really do.


I really hope he's the reason reality tv is banned.

/Duck Dynasty and Pawn Stars can stay.
 
2013-02-02 08:02:28 AM  
Sure, give him a show on FARK TV. He can be in a Very Special Episode of <b>Honk Bag</b>.

/...playing the part of the squeaky toys.
 
2013-02-02 08:05:10 AM  
So sad that he thinks kidnapping a child is going to make his problems better. I hope the negotiator is able to free the kid, but no way should that nutbag get a soapbox to air his problems. Then everytime someone has a problem with the government, they'll just kidnap someone to have their demands met.
 
2013-02-02 08:08:50 AM  
It is most frighteng that he apparently wanted two kids.
 
2013-02-02 08:14:10 AM  

zedster: digistil: I've got a dozen published papers dealing with mental illness, so someone thinks I know what I'm talking about.

If that is the case you should know the dangers of remote diagnosis. Have you seen his medical files? Maybe he went off his meds or suffered a chemical imbalance or had the fish for dinner

It could be many things. The troupe of Vietnam vet snaps PTSD is from movies not real life. Most mentally ill are not violent. They are criminal because Regan shutdown mental health services so they get picked up for crimes like vagrancy and trespassing.


Assuming you're being serious, this is the internets... I'm only speculating. That said, I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than PTSD.

You're completely correct in stating most mentally ill people are not violent. Very, very few are a danger to anyone, including themselves. Sadly, I can't say that for normal people.

/Reagan
 
2013-02-02 08:17:01 AM  

Witchydiva: Give him a contract with whatever terms he wants, have him sign it. Once he releases the kid, arrest him, point out that a contract signed under duress is invalid, and lock him up for the rest of his life.


This. Cover the contract with lots of official-looking seals and stamps, tell him he has immunity from prosecution, that he can found his very own Republic of Dave, whatever.
 
2013-02-02 08:18:58 AM  
They should get Glenn Beck to come over there and talk to him, and have him pull out his chalkboard to show him how holing up in a bunker with a child hostage is just what the government wants him to do so they can steal all the guns out of his house and sell his property to turn it into a Muslim temple that performs abortions and gay marriages.  He'll be out of that bunker waving his gun in an instant, and it will be the first time in history Glenn Beck will have done something worthwhile.
 
2013-02-02 08:19:59 AM  

whither_apophis: Maybe something with leather seats and really crappy mileage?


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2013-02-02 08:20:37 AM  
The media needs to answer the important questions.

What comic books did they send down for the kid?
 
2013-02-02 08:21:01 AM  

skinink: So sad that he thinks kidnapping a child is going to make his problems better. I hope the negotiator is able to free the kid, but no way should that nutbag get a soapbox to air his problems. Then everytime someone has a problem with the government, they'll just kidnap someone to have their demands met.


That's why the rule is to not negotiate with terrorists. It's a little more difficult in reality. Paying ransoms encourages kidnapping but I hope someone pays it if I ever get kidnapped.
 
2013-02-02 08:22:56 AM  

zedster: the local university


You are aware that this is Alabama, right?
 
2013-02-02 08:23:53 AM  

serial_crusher: The media needs to answer the important questions.

What comic books did they send down for the kid?


No. no. They need to ask the kid's parents how they FEEL about all this.
 
2013-02-02 08:29:22 AM  

Fast Moon: They should get Glenn Beck to come over there and talk to him, and have him pull out his chalkboard to show him how holing up in a bunker with a child hostage is just what the government wants him to do so they can steal all the guns out of his house and sell his property to turn it into a Muslim temple that performs abortions and gay marriages.  He'll be out of that bunker waving his gun in an instant, and it will be the first time in history Glenn Beck will have done something worthwhile.


I don't think you are serious but this is a good idea.
 
2013-02-02 08:36:17 AM  
What's his freeper handle?
 
2013-02-02 08:38:20 AM  

lelio: What's his freeper handle?


I am oddly curious to find out if somebody in freeperland thinks this clown is a hero.  I bet it's a sizeable minority.
 
2013-02-02 08:42:53 AM  
Send the Algerian police to get him out.
 
2013-02-02 08:45:37 AM  
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2013-02-02 08:46:07 AM  

digistil: That said, I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than PTSD.


How about "he's a corn-fed idiot"?
 
2013-02-02 08:50:31 AM  
He's gotta sleep sometime. Send in some kinda drone with a poison dart.
 
2013-02-02 08:51:23 AM  
I dunno, the lead in "Ow! My Balls!" might be appropriate.
 
2013-02-02 08:52:34 AM  
The cops released a picture of the piece of shiat.

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I'm really looking forward to the government offering their retort to this idiot's political views with some of the taxpayer's bullets.
 
2013-02-02 09:01:28 AM  
Drop a couple gernades down the pvc pipe.
 
2013-02-02 09:02:09 AM  

SDRR: Drop a couple gernades down the pvc pipe.


Ah, the "shoot the hostage" tactic!

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2013-02-02 09:04:21 AM  

macadamnut: digistil: That said, I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than PTSD.

How about "he's a corn-fed idiot"?


This. A steady diet of Fox "News" and the usual Baptist End-of-the-World-Here's-How-to-Prepare-For-It indoctrination is more than enough to create a paranoid personality all by itself.
 
2013-02-02 09:08:37 AM  

willfullyobscure: I seriously hope he's the reason you people get your guns taken away. I really do.



Reason?
 
2013-02-02 09:17:34 AM  
Time to call in the expert.
 
2013-02-02 09:17:42 AM  
This is actually a pretty good break in the case, since what the guy is almost certainly going to get is a cop dressed up as a reporter, who will tackle, taze, or shoot him at the very first opportunity. The sleep deprivation the hostage-taker has been building up should lower his vigilance and increase his reaction time, making it very likely to succeed.
 
2013-02-02 09:20:12 AM  

Amos Quito: Time to call in the expert.


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2013-02-02 09:20:25 AM  
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For this job I say its time to call in the experts.
This lady has experience with chemical baby sitters.
 
2013-02-02 09:20:55 AM  

Amos Quito: Amos Quito: Time to call in the expert.

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2013-02-02 09:22:46 AM  

digistil: digistil: zedster: digistil: BronyMedic: digistil: SpdrJay: You'd almost think this guy has emotional problems or delusions, huh?

It's called PTSD.

 Plenty of other mental illnesses can cause you to have a violent, psychotic break from reality. This man's history and life story reeks of Paranoid/Delusional Disorders.

True, but the others don't crop up this late in life.

Do you have a GED in psychology?

I've got a dozen published papers dealing with mental illness, so someone thinks I know what I'm talking about.

*mostly dealing with schizophrenia.


Ahhh internet diagnoses of a total stranger by a so called mental health expert. Seems legit. Your shinny nickle knowledge of schizophrenia seems to have blinded you to the reality the ptsddoesnt work that way. It may affect him to make irrational in the moment choices, but long term planning of abusive and dangeoures goals mixed with blatant parinoia clearly indicate mental health issues far beyond ptsd. Just saying dick, blame ptsd one more time with out doing any isolation of other mental issues. That or publish your real name so your peers can point and laugh. Misinformation about mental health issues can be extremly dangerous.
 
2013-02-02 09:23:29 AM  

willfullyobscure: I seriously hope he's the reason you people get your guns taken away. I really do.


I really hope once the guns are taken away, you become the victim of gun violence due to being unable to defend yourself.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-02-02 09:30:35 AM  
Random thought: Did anyone notice how much this assface looks like the owner of the general store from Squidbillies?
 
2013-02-02 09:45:27 AM  
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2013-02-02 09:49:06 AM  

Amos Quito: Time to call in the expert.


They need to send in someone who knows how to negotiate...
 
2013-02-02 09:52:16 AM  

Rozotorical: digistil: digistil: zedster: digistil: BronyMedic: digistil: SpdrJay: You'd almost think this guy has emotional problems or delusions, huh?

It's called PTSD.

 Plenty of other mental illnesses can cause you to have a violent, psychotic break from reality. This man's history and life story reeks of Paranoid/Delusional Disorders.

True, but the others don't crop up this late in life.

Do you have a GED in psychology?

I've got a dozen published papers dealing with mental illness, so someone thinks I know what I'm talking about.

*mostly dealing with schizophrenia.

Ahhh internet diagnoses of a total stranger by a so called mental health expert. Seems legit. Your shinny nickle knowledge of schizophrenia seems to have blinded you to the reality the ptsddoesnt work that way. It may affect him to make irrational in the moment choices, but long term planning of abusive and dangeoures goals mixed with blatant parinoia clearly indicate mental health issues far beyond ptsd. Just saying dick, blame ptsd one more time with out doing any isolation of other mental issues. That or publish your real name so your peers can point and laugh. Misinformation about mental health issues can be extremly dangerous.



You sound fat.
 
2013-02-02 10:13:18 AM  
Just round up Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh, Beck and O'Reilly and drop them down there.  The room is small enough that hopefully the echo chamber would become a resonance chamber where the positive feedback would eventually build to the point that the whole thing crumbles apart and falls in on itself.  Then we could just pave over the location and never speak of it again.
 
2013-02-02 10:25:41 AM  
Maybe I a missing something but this seems like an easy one to solve. The guy and kid have one source of air, a single pipe.  Pump in some sort of gas that will put them both to sleep then open bunker.
 
2013-02-02 10:26:20 AM  

Amos Quito: willfullyobscure: I seriously hope he's the reason you people get your guns taken away. I really do.


Reason?


"you people?"
 
2013-02-02 10:41:32 AM  
Clearly this is just another false flag event conducted by the Liberal Obama Government.  They were losing some steam in the gun control talks now that Sandy has calmed down, what better way to convince all the sheeple that all guns need to be taken away from everyone?  Who really kills an innocent bus driver, and steals an innocent kid?  That doesn't happen unless someone way up high is calling the shots.  What are the chances that the the culprit just happens to take a kid with a diagnosed mental disorder?  Yes, me thinks it was all done to garner more support and more calls of 'won't someone think of the children!' from the sheeple.  This is how it starts, once all our guns are taken away we'll all be saying Heil Obama, or we'll be sent to concentration camps.  They've pretty much emptied the one in Guantanamo Bay of the real threats to 'Merica, so that's the first they'll fill.
 
2013-02-02 10:42:28 AM  

digistil: assjuice: I'll bet this guys loves his guns. And what a surprise, he is insane.

Do you know of a better way to get (perceived) respect for insane beliefs?


Start a religion?
 
2013-02-02 10:45:09 AM  
True Lies/cameraman reference or Jacob's Ladder reference.
Decisions, decisions.
 
2013-02-02 10:50:01 AM  
Having read of the guy's actions leading up to this, I'm seriously wondering why the hell he wasn't already "safely" locked up somewhere.
 
2013-02-02 10:56:43 AM  

StrangeQ: Just round up Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh, Beck and O'Reilly and drop them down there.  The room is small enough that hopefully the echo chamber would become a resonance chamber where the positive feedback would eventually build to the point that the whole thing crumbles apart and falls in on itself.  Then we could just pave over the location and never speak of it again.


The danger with that, of course, is that the echo chamber derp resonance reaches criticality and causes a cascade resonance scenario, which rips a hole in the universe to the border world of Xen, leading to the downfall and enslavement of humanity by aliens.

Of course, as long as we make sure none of them are wearing hazard suits, it may be worth it, I guess.
 
2013-02-02 11:07:32 AM  
eh it's a boy
if it was a girl i'd be totally into that shiat
 
2013-02-02 11:15:07 AM  
With the way things are going in the USA, I think the guy may have a legitimate beef with the government.
Why don't we just hear him out.  It's a shame that he was driven to do what some people consider insane.
But I think most people are deluding themselves if they think the government didn't screw this guy over.
 
2013-02-02 11:23:32 AM  

namegoeshere: It is most frighteng that he apparently wanted two kids.


And now he wants another person to join him in his booby trapped bunker? Sure he wants to tell his side of the story... Right before he detonates his explosives killing two hostages.
 
2013-02-02 11:26:36 AM  
You'd think being locked up in what is essentially a cage with an unmedicated ADHD kid would have been enough for him to surrender by now. At some  point here soon he's going to run out of comic books and all the  pages will be  colored leaving him nothing to do. An ADHD kid with nothing to keep him busy? This stand-off will be over real soon. He will either come  running out of the bunker with his hands in the air or put a bullet in his own head. No one can survive that type of torture!

Problem solved!
 
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