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(KATU)   Worlds most pretentious wedding cake baker refuses to create cake for same-sex couple   (katu.com) divider line 541
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2013-02-02 12:07:40 AM
Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?
 
2013-02-02 12:10:10 AM
Especially a baker named "Sweet Cakes".
 
2013-02-02 06:50:56 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?


I'm pretty sure that refusing to serve someone based on sexual orientation or because of your religious convictions is a violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but IANAL, unless it's a "private club"
 
2013-02-02 07:48:53 AM
Go
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A
Different
Bakery
 
2013-02-02 07:49:36 AM
There are straight people working in the wedding business?
 
2013-02-02 07:49:39 AM

mr_a: Especially a baker named "Sweet Cakes Cheeks".


Camped that up for you.
 
2013-02-02 07:49:50 AM
Whether he broke any laws or not, I thnk we can safely agree he's gigantic douchebag.
 
2013-02-02 07:50:46 AM

SpdrJay: Go
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Different
Bakery


Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.
 
2013-02-02 07:50:55 AM
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I opened this article thinking that he was going to have a No Fear or Tapout shirt.

My powers of prediction are a tad off this morning, it would seem.
 
2013-02-02 07:51:19 AM
Done in two.
 
2013-02-02 07:51:38 AM
With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh
 
2013-02-02 07:54:42 AM

BronyMedic: BarkingUnicorn: Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?

I'm pretty sure that refusing to serve someone based on sexual orientation or because of your religious convictions is a violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but IANAL, unless it's a "private club"


No. Federal law does not treat sexual orientation as a protected class (if it did, there could be no "DOMA"). Oregon law, however, does, so it's irrelevant.
Cue all the righties who will defend this lawbreaking criminal's "religious freedom".
 
2013-02-02 07:54:52 AM
Isn't that illegal, given that you can not deny use of public accommodations based on sex?
 
2013-02-02 07:55:00 AM

Active introvert: With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh


Where do you think the evil comes from?
 
2013-02-02 07:55:03 AM
Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?
 
2013-02-02 07:56:05 AM

SpdrJay: Go
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A
Different
Bakery


No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.
 
2013-02-02 07:56:47 AM

LoneWolf343: Active introvert: With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh

Where do you think the evil comes from?


Hmm, methinks I should have worded that more clearly. I meant to imply that evil comes from people like those who hate gays, not the other way around. It's early.
 
2013-02-02 07:57:42 AM

shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?


Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.
 
2013-02-02 07:58:29 AM

IlGreven: SpdrJay: Go
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Different
Bakery

Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.


Yes.
Because public transportation and a privately owned business are exactly the same thing.
/sarcasm
 
2013-02-02 08:00:28 AM
He has ear rings. A man with ear rings! That would have gotten him refused service thirty years ago.
 
2013-02-02 08:00:39 AM

jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.


Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?
 
2013-02-02 08:01:16 AM

SpdrJay: IlGreven: SpdrJay: Go
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Different
Bakery

Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.

Yes.
Because public transportation and a privately owned business are exactly the same thing.
/sarcasm


Fpr our purposes, legally, yeah, they are. Both are public accommodations. A huge portion of the civil rights movement was about this stuff. Crack open a history book.
 
2013-02-02 08:01:24 AM

jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.


Illegal aliens are prosecuted now!? But where are the Job Creators going to come up with 11 million people to do jobs 50-60% of market value!?
 
2013-02-02 08:03:05 AM

jso2897: shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.


Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.
 
2013-02-02 08:03:17 AM

ajgeek: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Illegal aliens are prosecuted now!? But where are the Job Creators going to come up with 11 million people to do jobs 50-60% of market value!?


The unemployment office?
 
2013-02-02 08:03:25 AM
So what if someone was just an jackass and the baker figured 'fark you, I ain't selling to you because you're a jackass.", would that be legal?

Or just impolite?

/doesn't live in the US.
 
2013-02-02 08:03:43 AM

shotglasss: What ever happened to the separation of church and state?


You may want to request a refund on that Constitutional Law GED.
 
2013-02-02 08:04:19 AM

phartman: So what if someone was just an jackass and the baker figured 'fark you, I ain't selling to you because you're a jackass.", would that be legal?

Or just impolite?

/doesn't live in the US.


Legal and impolite.
 
2013-02-02 08:04:20 AM
This is the kind of issue that really makes me pray for the Supreme Court to find that sexual orientation is a quasi-suspect class in about five months.
 
2013-02-02 08:05:08 AM
Nice little business you have there.

Would be a pity if the Internet decided to destroy it.

/do not piss off the lesbians
//lipstick lesbians are the backbone of the wedding planning industry
 
2013-02-02 08:05:34 AM

BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?


OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?
 
2013-02-02 08:06:58 AM
Pulling that shiat in Portland, Oregon is a bad move.  He'll be out of business by summer.
 
2013-02-02 08:07:04 AM

shotglasss: jso2897: shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.

Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.


It's 2012. Arguments against anti-discrimination law lost in the 1960s. Do you really think you could win that battle in todays world, when it was lost then?
 
2013-02-02 08:07:07 AM

SpdrJay: Go
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Different
Bakery


Yes. Absolutely. Free market answer. Doesn't mean the guy's not a complete assbanana, though.
 
2013-02-02 08:07:27 AM

leevis: The unemployment office?


pshaw.  Those entitled slackers would want minimum wage and other such nonsense.
 
2013-02-02 08:08:02 AM
shotglasss: Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.


Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight! They could have just gone elsewhere with their business rather than attempting to change the law to force business owners to serve them. I'm sure that would have worked.
 
2013-02-02 08:10:42 AM

eiger: Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight


Or the ones who who were denied seats on trains even though they had they purchased legally, or those who got turned away from a reserved hotel room because they neglected to send notice of their negrocity ahead of time.
 
2013-02-02 08:11:49 AM
Sounds simple enough to me - he is breaking state law. Refusing to bake a cake for someone is not "practising a religion".
 
2013-02-02 08:12:33 AM
Amusing how people say things like "but the bible says it's wrong" and the guy's got a tat on his arm which the bible also says is wrong. Either follow it or don't but you can't pick and chose
 
2013-02-02 08:12:33 AM

jso2897: BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?

OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?


I know I can be a bit of a pedant sometimes, but damn, there are some farking pedantic ass mongoloids in the world today. As an example, America is not a democracy. It is a democratically-elected representative Constitutionally-limited federal bicameral presidential republic. Or so I was told about a week ago.
 
2013-02-02 08:13:23 AM

eiger: shotglasss: Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.

Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight! They could have just gone elsewhere with their business rather than attempting to change the law to force business owners to serve them. I'm sure that would have worked.


It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.
 
2013-02-02 08:14:24 AM

jso2897: It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.


12 year old jackasses such as Senator Rand Paul.
 
2013-02-02 08:15:02 AM

Serious Black: jso2897: BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?

OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?

I know I can be a bit of a pedant sometimes, but damn, there are some farking pedantic ass mongoloids in the world today. As an example, America is not a democracy. It is a democratically-elected representative Constitutionally-limited federal bicameral presidential republic. Or so I was told about a week ago.


Yeah, I know, and I didn't mean to be snotty. I suppose I should always strive to be the best kind of correct, but sometimes I go with the colorful language. Call it a weakness.
 
2013-02-02 08:16:03 AM

Active introvert: Amusing how people say things like "but the bible says it's wrong" and the guy's got a tat on his arm which the bible also says is wrong. Either follow it or don't but you can't pick and chose


You seem to be under the impression that their beliefs are based on the Bible, rather than the Bible being used to justify their specific beliefs.
 
2013-02-02 08:16:17 AM

PonceAlyosha: jso2897: It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.

12 year old jackasses such as Senator Rand Paul.


A perfect example of a (mentally and emotionally) 12 year old jackass.
 
2013-02-02 08:16:22 AM
World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.
 
2013-02-02 08:17:31 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


World's most pretentious woman refuses to get in the back of the bus.
 
2013-02-02 08:17:47 AM

ReverendJasen: shotglasss: What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

You may want to request a refund on that Constitutional Law GED.


I hear lefties with the same Constitutional Law GED scream about separation of church and state all the time. Go be a douchbag over with them, junior.
 
2013-02-02 08:18:00 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


Hope you take that attitude toward the next mugger who smashes your head in and takes your wallet - because, you know - running to the State when people break the law is so douchey.
 
2013-02-02 08:19:51 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


Given they had previously used the company for a parent's wedding cake, it seems that they're regular customers until he found out they were lesbians.

So it looks like you're wittering nonsense out your arse-flap.
 
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