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2013-02-01 09:13:12 PM  
Budweiser is American? News to me.
 
2013-02-01 09:52:16 PM  
Horse piss and donkey piss... two great tastes that taste great together.
 
2013-02-01 11:51:51 PM  
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Why not? They seem to be doing pretty well with it
 
2013-02-01 11:53:49 PM  
It's not an American company.  ImBev was originally a merger of Belgian and Brazilian companies.  They are the Bain Capital of beer.  They buy up major brands, slash benefits, lay off workers, switch to lower quality ingredients for their products, and then profit.  There's rumors that once they lock up the beer market that they'll go after Pepsi-Co.
 
2013-02-01 11:58:36 PM  
Budweiser wants Negra Modelo, but can't have it because another family owns it.
 
2013-02-02 12:04:29 AM  
 
2013-02-02 12:17:06 AM  
All your goat piss are belong to us
 
2013-02-02 12:18:41 AM  
"We must slow the volume trend of High End Segment and cannot let the industry transform,"

Yeah, God forbid you be forced to stop making shiatty beer.
 
2013-02-02 12:27:40 AM  
There is a bottle of Corona in my fridge that some asshole left after a bonfire about a year ago. I've sometimes thought about throwing it away but it's become a bit of an experiment to see who, when told to go and help themselves to a drink, might take it.
 
2013-02-02 12:58:41 AM  

DanZero: [bminusblogs.files.wordpress.com image 850x634]

Why not? They seem to be doing pretty well with it


It is pretty good of them to turn off the piss water pipeline when disaster strikes and can up a bunch of water for people in need.
 
2013-02-02 04:43:45 AM  
budweiser tasted like pisswater when it was an american company. this began with rice.

just saw something on youtube, a new advertisement for something special beck's with "german hops". rofl wut?

they will lose in the long run as long as good taste prevails over media saturation.

I"m glad I got boulevard
 
2013-02-02 04:49:39 AM  
piss-warm Chango?
 
2013-02-02 04:50:11 AM  

Mentat: switch to lower quality ingredients for their products, and then profit. There's rumors that once they lock up the beer market that they'll go after Pepsi-Co.


Not sure if it fits their target corporate profile. "lower quality ingredients" implies room to sink...
However, they could cut a brilliant deal with the acid reflux people..
 
2013-02-02 04:51:12 AM  
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2013-02-02 04:54:20 AM  
It's like a bad marriage.

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2013-02-02 05:14:47 AM  

cowgirl toffee: It's like a bad marriage.

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Must be a Pabst Blue Ribbon wedding, it's hipsterrific!
 
2013-02-02 05:15:41 AM  
Like makingnlove in a canoe
 
2013-02-02 05:16:54 AM  
I am drinking the well-marketed fermented remains of rat corpses strained from the NYC water treatment facility now, so I am getting a liver tumor out of this.

Budweiser.  King of diarrhears.
 
2013-02-02 05:21:34 AM  
Pocket Ninja
There is a bottle of Corona in my fridge that some asshole left after a bonfire about a year ago. I've sometimes thought about throwing it away but it's become a bit of an experiment to see who, when told to go and help themselves to a drink, might take it.


Is it your life mission a troll court jester ?

/The happy kind, people like.
 
2013-02-02 05:27:34 AM  

violentsalvation: DanZero: [bminusblogs.files.wordpress.com image 850x634]

Why not? They seem to be doing pretty well with it

It is pretty good of them to turn off the piss water pipeline when disaster strikes and can up a bunch of water for people in need.


I hate their beer (I would rather pay for bottled water than drink free Bud), but I really like the fact that they will stop production of their beer and can up water to send to disaster areas.  If they actually made a beer that I enjoyed I would but more of it because of that.
 
2013-02-02 05:37:48 AM  
What I don't understand is why big beer sees craft beer as a threat to their sales instead of a growing business opportunity they could get into and make a lot of money on.
 
2013-02-02 05:49:17 AM  
Why American Belgian/Brazillian pisswater beer company wants to buy Mexican pisswater beer company.

FTFY

/ Former IT contractor that worked for AB before and after Inbev buyout. (2007-2010)
// Quit after 2 reductions in pay over the course of 3 years due to outsourcing of outsourcing companies.
/// Entire department went to shiat and most of the old crew were laid off/forced out of the job. I was one of the last ones to go.
//// Not bitter, just telling the facts.
 
2013-02-02 06:21:21 AM  
Whoop.....tee.........doo!
 
2013-02-02 06:26:36 AM  

Mentat: The Plot to Destroy America's Beer


That was a fascinating read.  Wholehearted thanks.
 
2013-02-02 06:43:44 AM  
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf
What I don't understand is why big beer sees craft beer as a threat to their sales instead of a growing business opportunity they could get into and make a lot of money on.


Actually if you see who makes those six-packs with those quirky labels at your local 7-11 or quicky mart, see who makes it. It probably isn't a small european brewer or some guy making beer in his garage. It probably is inbev or coors, because they are probably the only ones allow to stock it.

More then that why does Inbev products, Clearchannel, EA, mediacom, sony, AT&T's, BP's gas or any other generally evil corporation's product suck?

Because they are not trying to make a great product, they are trying to make a somewhat palatable product though the most minimal resources possible, while selling their product for as much as possible.

Why do people choose crap industrial beer, listen to crap fm radio, play crap franchise sports games, buy internet service that breaks at least twice month, buy electronics that are limited by design, or choose to buy gas from people that simply put, pollute as part of the intended consequences of their corporate policy?

Because that is a feature of getting maximum value for shareholders.
 
2013-02-02 06:44:46 AM  
I don't drink any In-Bev products at all, so I am getting a real kick, etc.
 
2013-02-02 06:56:37 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: What I don't understand is why big beer sees craft beer as a threat to their sales instead of a growing business opportunity they could get into and make a lot of money on.


Because there is a lower profit margin in craft beer.  Sure, they can charge more for craft beers, but even at a higher price they generally return a lower profit. And so long as craft beers only account for 5% of the total market share, they see no need to get into that market. 

As for declining beer sales, I do not see that as being due to increase sale of craft beers.  I believe it has more to do with people switching to different beverage types, such as wine or hard liquor.
 
2013-02-02 07:46:20 AM  
Meh, i like Corona personally.  But then again I'm not a hipster who must cry foul at anything but the most obscure of beers,  Yuengling  Is my favorite.  Most craft beers that i've had were....different...  not good. just different.
 
2013-02-02 08:03:23 AM  
I like all kinds of beers, including many German beers.  I like strong beers.  Hoppy beers.  Beers with tons of character.  I hate Budweiser and all of the other flavorless American beers (to me, Coors Light is the very worst but Bud Light is also undrinkable).

But Corona with lime is a great beer, especially on a hot summer afternoon.
 
2013-02-02 08:10:11 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Because they are not trying to make a great product, they are trying to make a somewhat palatable product though the most minimal resources possible, while selling their product for as much as possible


Mock26: Because there is a lower profit margin in craft beer.  Sure, they can charge more for craft beers, but even at a higher price they generally return a lower profit. And so long as craft beers only account for 5% of the total market share, they see no need to get into that market


That does answer my question, thanx! :-)
 
2013-02-02 08:13:42 AM  
As the article suggests, this move is about trying to gain even more leverage over the distributors. If you walk down the beer aisle at grocery store, it might look like there is a lot of diversity among products, but chances are 85% of the beers will be InBev, SABMiller, Molson-Coors, and Grupo Modelo products. The rest likely will be from Guinness (Diageo), Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada, maybe one or two local breweries, and the brands owned by Pabst. When one of the big boys offers a new product it requires shelf space, which then leaves less room for the beers from the smaller breweries.

Of course there are some grocery stores with a selection that rivals anything you can find in a specialty shop, but they are the exception. Most provide only the illusion of diversity. If my beer choices became restricted to products made by the big boys, I'd probably buy some Goose Island (owned by InBev), Blue Moon (owned by Coors), and Guinness, but for the most part I'd end up drinking much less beer. I've become accustomed to being able to select from a wide variety of beers from a wide variety of breweries, so I definitely don't want InBev or anybody to have even more control over what goes on the shelves.
 
2013-02-02 08:25:13 AM  
Enemabag Jones has the right of it.  Companies like InBev only care about margins.  as insane as it may sound, Budweiser acutally got WORSE after InBev bought them (yeah, who knew that was possible, right?) and sales of Budweiser dropped around 14%.  however, profit was way up, so In Bev doesnt care that the quality or sales went down.  My understanding is that they want the rights to the name to sell to the insanely large markets in Asia and South america where people prefer light beer, and considering how bad their local brews are, a crappy Bud is better than what they currently have.
 
2013-02-02 08:29:23 AM  
Agree with  AirForbes1 that this is about controlling distribution more than anything else. Here in Houston, I refuse to touch any of the major crap......between St. Arnold's, Shiner, and Karbach, there's plenty around here to keep me happy.
 
2013-02-02 08:29:54 AM  
TFA: "We must slow the volume trend of High End Segment and cannot let the industry transform," AB InBev said in internal strategy documents obtained by the Justice Department, referring to the threat posed by imports and craft beers.

Too late, you farkers.  Millions of Americans now know what good beer tastes like.  Good craft beer is made in every state, and stocked in supermarkets and convenience stores. You can't turn back the clock.

I'm sure the mega-brewers will always maintain a huge chunk of the market though, because of their massive advertising budgets, and the millions of college students and other mainly cost-conscious consumers wh only drink to get drunk.
 
2013-02-02 08:33:25 AM  

AirForbes1: As the article suggests, this move is about trying to gain even more leverage over the distributors. If you walk down the beer aisle at grocery store, it might look like there is a lot of diversity among products, but chances are 85% of the beers will be InBev, SABMiller, Molson-Coors, and Grupo Modelo products. The rest likely will be from Guinness (Diageo), Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada, maybe one or two local breweries, and the brands owned by Pabst. When one of the big boys offers a new product it requires shelf space, which then leaves less room for the beers from the smaller breweries.


Not only that, but there's the problem of successful craft brewers getting gobbled up by the majors (I'm looking at you, Goose Island), and the somewhat related rise of faux craft beers like Blue Moon that give little or no indication on the package that they're all about taking even more shelf space.
 
2013-02-02 08:33:28 AM  
Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?

That's the real rub these days - I've been trying to avoid buying from "big beer" lately, but half the time, if I see a new brand that looks interesting, I have to go home and do research to figure out if they're just some brewery that's been bought out by InBev or Miller/Coors (and this information is usually buried a bit) - most of the time they are.  And this is in Arizona, where we don't have the idiotic three-tier system.
 
2013-02-02 08:42:38 AM  
When in doubt, buy local.  You're more likely to get a quality product, more likely it'll be a small business, and locally owned keeps your money in the local economy.
 
2013-02-02 08:54:49 AM  

sporkme: I am drinking the well-marketed fermented remains of rat corpses strained from the NYC water treatment facility now, so I am getting a liver tumor out of this.

Budweiser.  King of diarrhears.


you silly. NYC's drinking water comes from the Catskill Region of NY State and is quite delicious. but you can find a huge Budweiser brewing facility in Newark NJ that will entertain that liver tumor.
 
2013-02-02 08:59:35 AM  

The Wack: Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?


I wonder how many people know the following craft products and imports are actually InBev products:
Bass
Becks
Boddingtons
Franziskaner Weissbier
Goose Island
Hoegaarden
Leffe
Redhook (partial)
Widmer Brothers (partial)

I'm not anti-big business and I don't have a crisis of conscience when I have a Spaten Oktoberfest or some Honkers Ale. I am a supporter of the so-called free market, but I believe markets work best when there is ample competition. There's never been a better time to be a beer consumer in the United States, and I hope it will remain that way.
 
2013-02-02 08:59:43 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Why do people choose crap industrial beer, listen to crap fm radio, play crap franchise sports games, buy internet service that breaks at least twice month, buy electronics that are limited by design, or choose to buy gas from people that simply put, pollute as part of the intended consequences of their corporate policy?

Because that is a feature of getting maximum value for shareholders.


Which has fark-all to do with making a high-quality product, obviously. And their acquisitive practices are slowly strangling those breweries who still care about crafting a good beer.

www.redsevenleisure.co.uk
 
2013-02-02 09:08:34 AM  

Pocket Ninja: There is a bottle of Corona in my fridge that some asshole left after a bonfire about a year ago. I've sometimes thought about throwing it away but it's become a bit of an experiment to see who, when told to go and help themselves to a drink, might take it.


I did the same thing with 5 Michelob Pumpkin Spice Beers a few years ago.  After 2 years I ended up throwing 4 out.
 
2013-02-02 09:17:59 AM  
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2013-02-02 09:24:57 AM  
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Making love in a canoe?
 
2013-02-02 09:34:27 AM  

denbroc: Pocket Ninja: There is a bottle of Corona in my fridge that some asshole left after a bonfire about a year ago. I've sometimes thought about throwing it away but it's become a bit of an experiment to see who, when told to go and help themselves to a drink, might take it.

I did the same thing with 5 Michelob Pumpkin Spice Beers a few years ago.  After 2 years I ended up throwing 4 out.


WHO DRANK THE ONE?!
 
2013-02-02 09:40:18 AM  

KrispyKritter: sporkme: I am drinking the well-marketed fermented remains of rat corpses strained from the NYC water treatment facility now, so I am getting a liver tumor out of this.

Budweiser.  King of diarrhears.

you silly. NYC's drinking water comes from the Catskill Region of NY State and is quite delicious. but you can find a huge Budweiser brewing facility in Newark NJ that will entertain that liver tumor.


I was referring to the discharge end. I recall the episode of Penn & Teller where every one loved the hose water. In Indianapolis, or at least on my end of it, we have water so hard you can bludgeon your murder victim with it.
 
2013-02-02 09:54:01 AM  

SwingDancer: Meh, i like Corona personally.  But then again I'm not a hipster who must cry foul at anything but the most obscure of beers,  Yuengling  Is my favorite.  Most craft beers that i've had were....different...  not good. just different.


Corona gives me the runs for some reason, so every bottle is just like a visit to Mexixo.
 
2013-02-02 09:55:30 AM  

Pocket Ninja: There is a bottle of Corona in my fridge that some asshole left after a bonfire about a year ago. I've sometimes thought about throwing it away but it's become a bit of an experiment to see who, when told to go and help themselves to a drink, might take it.


CSB moment:
Years ago a friend of mine threw a Superbowl party.  Her idiot brother stops by with a case of Budweiser,  Takes off a few minutes later, and no one sees nor hears from him again for almost 6 months (we think he was locked up).  No one touched that beer and his sister just put it in the pantry.  By the time the farker comes by again, the case had dust on it.  He comes in, asks for a beer, she reminds him of the beer he had left, and he went and drank that shiat like it was OK.
 
2013-02-02 09:58:55 AM  
i like to rhyme everything i say like a stupid person.  i call it "word salad".
 
2013-02-02 10:04:15 AM  

sporkme: KrispyKritter: sporkme: I am drinking the well-marketed fermented remains of rat corpses strained from the NYC water treatment facility now, so I am getting a liver tumor out of this.

Budweiser.  King of diarrhears.

you silly. NYC's drinking water comes from the Catskill Region of NY State and is quite delicious. but you can find a huge Budweiser brewing facility in Newark NJ that will entertain that liver tumor.

I was referring to the discharge end. I recall the episode of Penn & Teller where every one loved the hose water. In Indianapolis, or at least on my end of it, we have water so hard you can bludgeon your murder victim with it.


Same here.  The tapwater is so hard you have to chew it before you can take a drink.

But seriously though, it makes it a biatch to keep your bathroom clean - I usually do a pre-wash with industrial-strength vinegar (14% concentration) to cut the lime scale off the tiles before I hit them with the soap.  I have to de-tartar my washing machine every three months or so to keep it from crusting up inside and breaking.

/it's the limestone that does it
 
2013-02-02 10:08:54 AM  

AirForbes1: The Wack: Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?

I wonder how many people know the following craft products and imports are actually InBev products:
Bass
Becks
Boddingtons
Franziskaner Weissbier
Goose Island
Hoegaarden
Leffe
Redhook (partial)
Widmer Brothers (partial)

I'm not anti-big business and I don't have a crisis of conscience when I have a Spaten Oktoberfest or some Honkers Ale. I am a supporter of the so-called free market, but I believe markets work best when there is ample competition. There's never been a better time to be a beer consumer in the United States, and I hope it will remain that way.


I am anti-big business. I'm tired of being given the illusion of choice, the illusion of competition. In fact, that shiat pisses me right off - which is not to say I have a crisis of conscience every time I get a beer (or anything else) that is made by big business, but I try, especially with beer, to support the little guys.  The micro-brew industry is one of the few popular places is our modern society that I actually can see the fight against corporate monopolization (or pseudo-monopolization by a select handful of companies) actually seeming to retrograde, a little.

/rant off
 
2013-02-02 10:56:20 AM  
I'll just stick to my cheap vodka.
 
2013-02-02 11:12:26 AM  

Mentat: The Plot to Destroy America's Beer


That was an excellent read
 
2013-02-02 11:12:53 AM  
I can't tell you how much this affects me, because that would involve giving a fark.
 
2013-02-02 11:43:35 AM  
I have a 12 pack of corona light which a couple brought over for the 4th of July 2008. It still sits in our non climate controlled garage. With the temp swings last summer and more recently, at this point, it may be deadly.  Thinking of either making a Russian roulette style drinking game or just do every corona fan a favor and mix them in with other beers on Super Bowl Sunday so that anyone who grabs one will never drink another.
 
2013-02-02 11:46:00 AM  
As long as I can buy the ingredients I'll always have beer I really like. That said, the list that was posted just a few back has a few other beers that I like as well.

In the end, I say, drink what you like but try everything.
 
2013-02-02 11:49:54 AM  
This is what I like to swim in.
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2013-02-02 12:10:36 PM  
I didn't know AB Inbev had their grubby little fingers in so many other breweries. I really gotta start checking the labels when I buy beer.

/fark AB InBev
//Hated Budweiser before it was cool.
 
2013-02-02 12:20:50 PM  

pacmanner: This is what I like to swim in.


I also like Leffe, but you know they're owned by inbev too, right?

/Sad when I learned that
 
2013-02-02 12:22:58 PM  

Mentat: The Plot to Destroy America's Beer


that was fascinating. thanks!

/and now posted on my facebook
//awaits all the angry comments from my "Real American" relatives after they read it.
 
2013-02-02 12:41:12 PM  
I drink Moosehead religiously. Everything else tastes like shiat to me. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian
 
2013-02-02 01:24:07 PM  

AirForbes1: As the article suggests, this move is about trying to gain even more leverage over the distributors. If you walk down the beer aisle at grocery store, it might look like there is a lot of diversity among products, but chances are 85% of the beers will be InBev, SABMiller, Molson-Coors, and Grupo Modelo products. The rest likely will be from Guinness (Diageo), Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada, maybe one or two local breweries, and the brands owned by Pabst. When one of the big boys offers a new product it requires shelf space, which then leaves less room for the beers from the smaller breweries.

Of course there are some grocery stores with a selection that rivals anything you can find in a specialty shop, but they are the exception. Most provide only the illusion of diversity. If my beer choices became restricted to products made by the big boys, I'd probably buy some Goose Island (owned by InBev), Blue Moon (owned by Coors), and Guinness, but for the most part I'd end up drinking much less beer. I've become accustomed to being able to select from a wide variety of beers from a wide variety of breweries, so I definitely don't want InBev or anybody to have even more control over what goes on the shelves.


I can just drive down the street and pick up a growler at the brewery and cut out all the middlemen.
dzasv7x7a867v.cloudfront.net
 
2013-02-02 01:37:32 PM  
Modelo is delicious.  Your argument is invalid.
 
2013-02-02 02:06:38 PM  

AirForbes1: The Wack: Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?

I wonder how many people know the following craft products and imports are actually InBev products:
Bass
Becks
Boddingtons
Franziskaner Weissbier
Goose Island
Hoegaarden
Leffe
Redhook (partial)
Widmer Brothers (partial)

I'm not anti-big business and I don't have a crisis of conscience when I have a Spaten Oktoberfest or some Honkers Ale. I am a supporter of the so-called free market, but I believe markets work best when there is ample competition. There's never been a better time to be a beer consumer in the United States, and I hope it will remain that way.


Add in Kona Brewing as well to the "Partially owned" list.
And as to how they can call Redhook, Widmer, and Kona "Craft" beer when a craft brewery is bydefinition has no significant ownership stake by a large producer?  They simply named the holding company the "Craft brew Alliance".
 
2013-02-02 02:17:54 PM  
The problem is not that they make shiat beer. The problem is that people buy it.
 
2013-02-02 03:01:22 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: I didn't know AB Inbev had their grubby little fingers in so many other breweries. I really gotta start checking the labels when I buy beer.

/fark AB InBev
//Hated Budweiser before it was cool.


They don't put it on the labels - the labels retain their (subsidiary) brewery name - it's some sneaky shiat.
 
2013-02-02 03:05:10 PM  

Derigiberble: AirForbes1: The Wack: Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?

I wonder how many people know the following craft products and imports are actually InBev products:
Bass
Becks
Boddingtons
Franziskaner Weissbier
Goose Island
Hoegaarden
Leffe
Redhook (partial)
Widmer Brothers (partial)

I'm not anti-big business and I don't have a crisis of conscience when I have a Spaten Oktoberfest or some Honkers Ale. I am a supporter of the so-called free market, but I believe markets work best when there is ample competition. There's never been a better time to be a beer consumer in the United States, and I hope it will remain that way.

Add in Kona Brewing as well to the "Partially owned" list.
And as to how they can call Redhook, Widmer, and Kona "Craft" beer when a craft brewery is bydefinition has no significant ownership stake by a large producer?  They simply named the holding company the "Craft brew Alliance".


I was just considering that distinction - I wonder if "craft" brewed is a manufactured term. We used to call them microbrews, but anything related to a mega-brewery probably couldn't pull that off without someone calling foul. "Craft beer," on the other hand is nebulous enough to apply to both.
 
2013-02-02 03:11:34 PM  

Malcolm_Sex: I drink Moosehead religiously. Everything else tastes like shiat to me. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian


I found Moosehead to be pretty mediocre.

Canada makes a few nice beers though. Particularly those produced by Unibroue. I particularly like Maudite.
 
2013-02-02 03:15:36 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: I didn't know AB Inbev had their grubby little fingers in so many other breweries. I really gotta start checking the labels when I buy beer.

/fark AB InBev
//Hated Budweiser before it was cool.


They bought Goose Island, a local brew-pub here in Chicago in 2011.  The beers still produced at the brew pub are still fantastic, but those that are now being brewed in other facilities are not as good.  I used to enjoy their 312 beer.  Not any more.  It is still better than Bud or Miller, but it is not as good as it used to be.
 
2013-02-02 03:18:37 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Malcolm_Sex: I drink Moosehead religiously. Everything else tastes like shiat to me. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian

I found Moosehead to be pretty mediocre.

Canada makes a few nice beers though. Particularly those produced by Unibroue. I particularly like Maudite.


I love their Fin du Monde, Raftman, and Blanche de Chambly.  And on a really humid, sweltering hot summer day, their Éphémère Apple is particularly refreshing.
 
2013-02-02 04:13:38 PM  
I can't believe everybody doesn't like the same type of Beer.
 
2013-02-02 05:40:53 PM  
Subby is a pretentious prick that should e banned from ever having children.

/non drinker
//beer snobs are worse than coffee snobs.
 
2013-02-02 05:48:28 PM  
fuzzybacchus: Enemabag Jones has the right of it.


George?
 
2013-02-02 05:58:13 PM  

Derigiberble: And as to how they can call Redhook, Widmer, and Kona "Craft" beer when a craft brewery is bydefinition has no significant ownership stake by a large producer? They simply named the holding company the "Craft brew Alliance".


Now THAT is what really pisses me off - the deceptive, sneaky, astroturf way that these bastards hide their involvement. Hint to the big brewers: don't try to deceive us. It will only come back to bite you on the ass.
 
2013-02-02 05:58:23 PM  
Negra Modelo?

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2013-02-02 05:58:48 PM  

Prodigy AK: Subby is a pretentious prick that should e banned from ever having children.

/non drinker
//beer snobs are worse than coffee snobs.


Honestly this is one of the few beer threads on fark I've read that hasn't been a beer snob fest. Great reading comprehension there, Lou.
 
2013-02-02 06:32:09 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Malcolm_Sex: I drink Moosehead religiously. Everything else tastes like shiat to me. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian

I found Moosehead to be pretty mediocre.

Canada makes a few nice beers though. Particularly those produced by Unibroue. I particularly like Maudite.


Owned by Sapporo. Still good, though, and still brewed in Chambly.

/also finds Moosehead mediocre
//at least they're still independent
 
2013-02-02 06:37:52 PM  

Valiente: I can't tell you how much this affects me, because that would involve giving a fark.


I can tell you how it affects me because I make craft beer for a living and we go through an AB house for distribution and we've seen a marked decline in service from them over the past few years, and seen the toil the buisness shift has taken its toll on the workers we deal with through that distribution company. even to the point that items from our shipments have started to vanish at the docks so we needed to start making multiple signed counts of orders to verify with the folks on the other side that it wasn't us that shorted the order, and that some shady people they may hired at minimum wage is make shiat walk away.

the craft division of this distribution company is doing the best they can, but the lead division has forced them allocate resources back to the mainline brands they have historically covered.

lets also couple that with current explosion of the craft brew segment as a whole... seemingly everyone and their brother is opening a craft brewery nowadays, all the little guys are fighting for attention as well.

the market will eventually sort itself out.. and I've lived and worked through one bubble as it is, and I see all the signs pointing towards a new one building up.. it's all good news for consumers up until the point that the market is once again flooded by a bunch of mediocre beers with funny names, made by people who have no business being in the business.

but ABInbev is not in the business to kill AB, it's in the biz to sell beer and make a profit as posted previously. but these are multinational corporations. and the macro beer business is much like the soda pop industry in a lot of ways, and they have taken a lot of cues from the cola wars as well.  In a lot of ways, there really is not a lot of difference between Bud select and Mountain Dew code red once you get down to the rusty nuts of the situation.


It's a very interesting business to be in, and study. it can be a very cut throat world of back stabbing and dirty deals. Piracy and sabotage. one of my great past times is just listening to old beer guys tell war stories.
 
2013-02-02 06:46:39 PM  

Derigiberble: Add in Kona Brewing as well to the "Partially owned" list.


:(

I always preferred the beer from Hilo anyway. :P
 
2013-02-02 06:52:25 PM  
i like beer.
 
2013-02-02 07:56:47 PM  
And this is why we need a

"Crimes Against Humanity"

tag.
 
2013-02-02 09:06:58 PM  
I like Corona. It's my summer go-to beer. With a lime shoved in it.....mmmmmm. *drool*

The Wack: And this is in Arizona, where we don't have the idiotic three-tier system.


But you had Nimbus and ruined it. No beer is safe!
 
2013-02-02 09:15:46 PM  

wambu: SwingDancer: Meh, i like Corona personally.  But then again I'm not a hipster who must cry foul at anything but the most obscure of beers,  Yuengling  Is my favorite.  Most craft beers that i've had were....different...  not good. just different.

Corona gives me the runs for some reason, so every bottle is just like a visit to Mexixo.



Pepperoni does it to me, but i still eat it every once in awhile :)

To those who arent hipster Dbags. Try dropping in a shot of well tequila into a glass of carona with a squeeze of lime.  Not top shelf, just well.  I call it a mexican car bomb.  tawsty drink, but be careful them tequilla's are sneaky like this.
 
2013-02-02 10:37:54 PM  
If caring about what company gets you drunk is this high on your priority list you need to re-evaluate your life.
 
2013-02-02 11:29:57 PM  

CptnSpldng: AirForbes1: As the article suggests, this move is about trying to gain even more leverage over the distributors. If you walk down the beer aisle at grocery store, it might look like there is a lot of diversity among products, but chances are 85% of the beers will be InBev, SABMiller, Molson-Coors, and Grupo Modelo products. The rest likely will be from Guinness (Diageo), Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada, maybe one or two local breweries, and the brands owned by Pabst. When one of the big boys offers a new product it requires shelf space, which then leaves less room for the beers from the smaller breweries.

Of course there are some grocery stores with a selection that rivals anything you can find in a specialty shop, but they are the exception. Most provide only the illusion of diversity. If my beer choices became restricted to products made by the big boys, I'd probably buy some Goose Island (owned by InBev), Blue Moon (owned by Coors), and Guinness, but for the most part I'd end up drinking much less beer. I've become accustomed to being able to select from a wide variety of beers from a wide variety of breweries, so I definitely don't want InBev or anybody to have even more control over what goes on the shelves.

I can just drive down the street and pick up a growler at the brewery and cut out all the middlemen.
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Ahhhh...been meaning to try the Cape May Brewery. I understand a few local places have it on tap, but it is pretty limited and they run out rather quickly.
Supporting your local brewery is the way to be.
 
2013-02-03 12:52:56 AM  

Clint_Torres: I like Corona. It's my summer go-to beer. With a lime shoved in it.....mmmmmm. *drool*

The Wack: And this is in Arizona, where we don't have the idiotic three-tier system.

But you had Nimbus and ruined it. No beer is safe!


Nimbus is still here, and still good - although their beers have seemed much more uneven in the last year. The owner is a mess and a financial idiot, from all I've heard, but they're still going, last I knew.
 
2013-02-03 12:56:46 AM  
I knew Nimbus Cousins (friend of a friend, super hot gf), the guy that started it. I guess he got a great offer and took it. Hell, I don't blame him. I stopped drinking it when he sold it and moved away shortly thereafter.
 
2013-02-03 01:02:28 AM  
Nimbus used to be my favorite local, but as I said, the last year or so, their beers have been uneven/different (they're over hopping the Monkeyshine, for one - and that was my favorite).  On the other hand, now I have Dragoon, and they're only about a mile from my house.
 
2013-02-03 01:18:38 AM  
Aw man Hoegaarden is InBev owned!?  And Kona brewing, how long ago did that happen?  Those folks had some damn tasty beers when I was there in 2007.

Knew about Goose Island being bought out......at Great American Beer Festival this past year people were riding thier asses *hard* about being owned by InBev and the steps GI had taken to hide that fact.  The brewmasters got pissed while the poor schmucks doing to poors just looked embarrased to be there.

Damn.  This thread has harshed my mellow.
 
2013-02-03 01:20:17 AM  

The Wack: Clint_Torres: I like Corona. It's my summer go-to beer. With a lime shoved in it.....mmmmmm. *drool*

The Wack: And this is in Arizona, where we don't have the idiotic three-tier system.

But you had Nimbus and ruined it. No beer is safe!

Nimbus is still here, and still good - although their beers have seemed much more uneven in the last year. The owner is a mess and a financial idiot, from all I've heard, but they're still going, last I knew.



Isn't there a pending divorce or something going on at Nimbus?  Love that brewery, but you're spot on......just a complete trainwreck out there.
Been really digging Thunder Canyon the last couple times I've been out that way.
 
2013-02-03 04:31:04 AM  

The Wack: On the other hand, now I have Dragoon, and they're only about a mile from my house.


Nice!
 
2013-02-03 04:32:45 AM  

corn-bread: Isn't there a pending divorce or something going on at Nimbus?  Love that brewery, but you're spot on......just a complete trainwreck out there. Been really digging Thunder Canyon the last couple times I've been out that way.


I haven't followed them since I left Tucson. I still have some growlers and posters and that's good enough for me.
 
2013-02-03 06:31:26 AM  
That article about InBev? Yeah, that made me see red. Corporations truly are inhuman. Destroy every brand you get, do everything on the cheap, destroy benefits for workers, and rake in profits...

What is the social value of a company that shutters old breweries, cheapens old recipies, but rakes in cash? They're providing a net social LOSS. They are literally making the world a worse place to live in. But the balance sheet looks good, I guess. I hope the people involved die of infected hemorrhoids.
 
2013-02-03 08:30:27 AM  

John Redcorn: If caring about what company gets you drunk is this high on your priority list you need to re-evaluate your life.


if you think the primary purpose of beer is to get you drunk, you need to re-evaluate your view of beer.
 
2013-02-03 11:33:44 AM  

corn-bread: The Wack: Clint_Torres: I like Corona. It's my summer go-to beer. With a lime shoved in it.....mmmmmm. *drool*

The Wack: And this is in Arizona, where we don't have the idiotic three-tier system.

But you had Nimbus and ruined it. No beer is safe!

Nimbus is still here, and still good - although their beers have seemed much more uneven in the last year. The owner is a mess and a financial idiot, from all I've heard, but they're still going, last I knew.


Isn't there a pending divorce or something going on at Nimbus?  Love that brewery, but you're spot on......just a complete trainwreck out there.
Been really digging Thunder Canyon the last couple times I've been out that way.


Yeah, apparently this all went down last year, but they had been on the downhill slide (financially) for quite some time- I did a quick search after Clint_Torres's "ruined" comment and found this :LINK

Thunder Canyon makes some good beers, and their Ornament Ale is a tasty winter favorite of mine.
 
2013-02-03 02:18:43 PM  
The Wack:Yeah, apparently this all went down last year, but they had been on the downhill slide (financially) for quite some time- I did a quick search after Clint_Torres's "ruined" comment and found this :LINK

Yikes!

I still don't know what really happened to Nimbus, the person. I can ask my friend and see if he knows.
 
2013-02-03 04:11:09 PM  

AirForbes1: The Wack: Did anyone else notice how, after the article, the slides show on America's 20 top selling craft beers included Widmere Brothers and Red Hook (both owned by InBev)?

I wonder how many people know the following craft products and imports are actually InBev products:
Bass
Becks
Boddingtons
Franziskaner Weissbier
Goose Island
Hoegaarden
Leffe
Redhook (partial)
Widmer Brothers (partial)

I'm not anti-big business and I don't have a crisis of conscience when I have a Spaten Oktoberfest or some Honkers Ale. I am a supporter of the so-called free market, but I believe markets work best when there is ample competition. There's never been a better time to be a beer consumer in the United States, and I hope it will remain that way.


It's too bad Goose Island isn't independent anymore but thanks to Inbev I can get it here in Va.Beach now .
 
2013-02-03 06:46:52 PM  

Doc Daneeka: John Redcorn: If caring about what company gets you drunk is this high on your priority list you need to re-evaluate your life.

if you think the primary purpose of beer is to get you drunk, you need to re-evaluate your view of beer.


Ding ding ding.  To the vast majority of the world, beer is "really cold, slightly refreshing, slightly bad-tasting drink that gets me silly-ass DRUNK".
 
2013-02-04 10:18:20 AM  
Pißwasser
 
2013-02-04 04:25:48 PM  
Subby is implying that Budweiser/Lite tastes bad, and that Corona taste bad. But only of those beers smells like a freshly smoked roach, and neither taste like betterwater beers, which are craft, and all taste and smell like they were brewed in an frequently filthy bong, along with used bong water. Yes, your craft handselect hops make beers bullshiat. If you want a beer that holds you to two beers a night, because it tastes so much like shiat, then aren't you admitting of yourself the same criticism you level at cheap beers?
 
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