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2013-02-01 02:41:52 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Gone In 26 Minutes: PrivateCaboose: Gone In 26 Minutes: It's not the same thing at ALL. Being gay does not farking remove the natural-born urge to fark that's in every animal, whether they have two legs or four. Being 'asexual' suggests that there IS no sexual wiring at all and I firmly believe that to be completely impossible in all, but the most damaged of minds.

Also, as a side note: pandas.

Pandas don't like to fark in cages. Most people don't either. Go figure.

It isn't just in cages.


Misleading headline. Should've been 'female pandas are farking picky with their real estate.' The story basically just said 'female pandas are picky about where they fark. males aren't. since they can't tell us, we had to study them for a while to figure this out.' Not 'pandas don't like to fark.'
 
2013-02-01 02:42:56 PM  

orclover: Gone In 26 Minutes: Pandas don't like to fark in cages. Most people don't either. Go figure

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Much more so than panda's.


I said most.
 
2013-02-01 02:43:49 PM  

orclover: aerojockey: orclover: As apposed to what? asking someone to not have sex? ever? Even though they enjoy it in whatever way with whatever gender they enjoy it? "hey cindy, I think we have a great relationship and I look forward to living the rest of my life with you but uhhh just FYI....we cant ever have sex, ever". Unless the words "but you can sleep around with whoever you want" follows that sentence, I think the relationship is over. If complete denial of sex is that important for people then be ready to start up a new version of match.com, and be ready for a pretty small dating pool.

So if you want to give advice to such a person, you should be constructive and say something like: "It's hard, but you should be up front about your asexuality and not try to enter relationships with people who do want sex".  Not to be a farking bigot and say, "You're farking capable of it, just do it".

Ah so you agree me with!


Boy are you a liar.  Here's what you said:

This woman in the article.  She can have sex.  Unless she's a ken doll down there, shes capable of it, physically.  Mentally the idea may be anathema to her.  If she found the perfect partner in all other aspects, she may be able to get through the hell of having some person climb on top of her and grunt sweatily for a few hours a day as an acceptable trade for maintaining a relationship that is otherwise unbelievably awesome.  As examples see most marriages in the last few thousand years.
 
2013-02-01 02:46:00 PM  
So... does she put out?
 
2013-02-01 02:46:27 PM  
Get thee to a nunnery!
 
2013-02-01 02:46:50 PM  

lockers: No you called him called him a bigot right off the bat. He asked a legitimate question in a neutral tone.


I didn't; it took a couple exchanges before I came out with "bigoted").  And that question was loaded.  Maybe he didn't intend it to be loaded but that's how it came out.  Even your polite rephrasing of it is still a bit suggestive.
 
2013-02-01 02:51:47 PM  
Asexuality is a Learned Behaviour.
 
2013-02-01 02:52:03 PM  
If she's willing to give a guy a BJ a couple times a week it might not be such a bad deal.
 
2013-02-01 02:52:55 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: That's why I say 'I believe' rather than 'this is the fact.' I accept the possibility that I'm wrong, but I have enough of an opinion about this that I will defend it until proven otherwise.


What would prove it to you, though? If people saying "I feel this way" isn't proof, what would be? How is homosexuality any different, if it can't be "proven" to exist in a lab? It's your opinion and I'm not upset about that or anything, just wondering what you're waiting for.

People are born whose brains are wired such that they can't see, hear, speak, or taste. People are born whose brains can't feel pain, one of the most basic survival tools (along with sexual urge = reproduction) Why is it so hard to believe sexual urge is the one sacred human quality that no brain can exist without?
 
2013-02-01 02:54:01 PM  
Lookin like that I don't think she has to worry about any guy wanting to hit that.....
 
2013-02-01 02:54:10 PM  
I've known an asexual man or two. Nice to know that there are ladies out there willing to not have sex with them.
 
2013-02-01 02:55:19 PM  

aerojockey: lockers: No you called him called him a bigot right off the bat. He asked a legitimate question in a neutral tone.

I didn't; it took a couple exchanges before I came out with "bigoted").  And that question was loaded.  Maybe he didn't intend it to be loaded but that's how it came out.  Even your polite rephrasing of it is still a bit suggestive.


Ok, I just realized it wasn <b>Erix</b> that asked the original loaded question that I took issue with.  So I was actually piliing on <b>Erix</b> because he took issue with me taking issue with someone who asked a loaded question that he said wasn't loaded.  My bad.
 
2013-02-01 02:57:36 PM  

aerojockey: lockers: No you called him called him a bigot right off the bat. He asked a legitimate question in a neutral tone.

I didn't; it took a couple exchanges before I came out with "bigoted").  And that question was loaded.  Maybe he didn't intend it to be loaded but that's how it came out.  Even your polite rephrasing of it is still a bit suggestive.


It wasn't in the least bit loaded. If someone is truly asexual, where does the gender preference come from? That isn't loaded or bigoted or whatever other reactionary thing you come up with.  He even said that he wasn't saying she can't be who she is.  You clearly overreacted.  A gender preference is a sexual choice. So how does that work.  Clearly she has sexual attraction. As far as I am concerned I think more power to her, at least she is clear and up front by setting expectations.
 
2013-02-01 03:00:21 PM  

aerojockey: orclover: aerojockey: orclover: As apposed to what? asking someone to not have sex? ever? Even though they enjoy it in whatever way with whatever gender they enjoy it? "hey cindy, I think we have a great relationship and I look forward to living the rest of my life with you but uhhh just FYI....we cant ever have sex, ever". Unless the words "but you can sleep around with whoever you want" follows that sentence, I think the relationship is over. If complete denial of sex is that important for people then be ready to start up a new version of match.com, and be ready for a pretty small dating pool.

So if you want to give advice to such a person, you should be constructive and say something like: "It's hard, but you should be up front about your asexuality and not try to enter relationships with people who do want sex".  Not to be a farking bigot and say, "You're farking capable of it, just do it".

Ah so you agree me with!

Boy are you a liar.  Here's what you said:

This woman in the article.  She can have sex.  Unless she's a ken doll down there, shes capable of it, physically.  Mentally the idea may be anathema to her.  If she found the perfect partner in all other aspects, she may be able to get through the hell of having some person climb on top of her and grunt sweatily for a few hours a day as an acceptable trade for maintaining a relationship that is otherwise unbelievably awesome.  As examples see most marriages in the last few thousand years.


So you dont think there are men and women out there having sex with their partners every day to satisfy an urge that is not theirs in any way only because it helps maintain the harmony of a relationship that is otherwise the exact ideal that they personally strive for?  It may not be a picture perfect world, but thats reality.  Telling her that she should NEVER have sex because its not in her interest is just as dishonest as telling her she should consider having sex if the relationship is otherwise worth it.  Relationships are more than sex right? You agreed with me there, we all saw you.  Ok now if she goes through a dozen "partners" all of whom are just as disinterested in anything sexual as she is.  But they.....are maybe as an example....morons, nothing interesting to talk about, some of them never want to cuddle and one of them snores like a farking chainsaw.  What you and I think is pointless if she finds the right girl/guy who stimulates her intellectually, fabulous dancer, unbelievable cook, same interest, is a warm quiet heatrock in bed, smells like cinnamon all the time.  If at that point she can put up with the occasional bout of sex just to keep that person happy, and it doesnt send her into night terrors or the hospital.  If she can "put up with" that small part of the relationship, she wont give a shiat what we say on the matter.  To her it may be worth it just to keep the rest.  Or maybe it wont be and the nonsexual aspect of the relationship will be the most important thing in her entire world.  Which is just as pitiable as some people who's entire relationship view is completely centered only around having regular sex.  Of which unfortunately the world is full of.
 
2013-02-01 03:00:55 PM  
Could be worse. She could be sexual but have avian bone syndrome and vertigo.

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2013-02-01 03:01:01 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: Women who call themselves asexual are either emotional stunted, repressing themselves in some way or just lying to try to get attention from people they think won't look at them as a hole to fark in an attempt to meet what they think is a 'nice guy.'

You're either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Those are the only things I will ever accept as naturally occurring in humanity. Everything else is just bullshiat in a vain attempt at making themselves look like a special snowflake.


To simplify the concept, it's "Want to fark" vs. "Don't want to fark."

Just like there are various types of "Want to fark" people, there are various types of "Don't want to fark" people.

This chick, unfortunately, just wants attention.
 
2013-02-01 03:03:10 PM  

aerojockey: aerojockey: lockers: No you called him called him a bigot right off the bat. He asked a legitimate question in a neutral tone.

I didn't; it took a couple exchanges before I came out with "bigoted").  And that question was loaded.  Maybe he didn't intend it to be loaded but that's how it came out.  Even your polite rephrasing of it is still a bit suggestive.

Ok, I just realized it wasn <b>Erix</b> that asked the original loaded question that I took issue with.  So I was actually piliing on <b>Erix</b> because he took issue with me taking issue with someone who asked a loaded question that he said wasn't loaded.  My bad.


I think you WANT it to be a loaded question. I would be genuinely curious to ask this woman, "are you certain you want to live with a male and not a female, and if so what drives that?" She could say mild non-sexual attraction, societal norms, legal ease or whatever else and that's all fine, I'm just curious what she would say.

At no point is there an attempt to stop her or convince her she is wrong or anything. There is no loaded followup BUT I'm waiting to slam them with. It's just a question. If an asexual/gay person asked me what it's like to have sex with a woman I wouldn't fly off the handle. It's like you expect someone who maybe hasn't met someone of this inclination to magically understand their entire mentality and not have any curious questions. You have to learn something somewhere, before you can know it.

If I met someone who said they would only shake hands with their left hand, I would ask them why. Questions don't automatically mean you disagree with the premise.

/ not original poster, so lower your weapons
 
2013-02-01 03:03:51 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Perhaps she prefers the company of men. Prefers to do her cuddling (which she lists in the article as enjoying) with men. I know I certainly do.

I don't cuddle with women. I have cuddled with men I had no intention of sleeping with.


Are you asexual? If so, what makes a man better than a woman.  Also, even if you were up front about it, I guarantee most, if not all, of those men had a desire to sleep with you.  Not that cuddling obliges you to that or anything.
 
2013-02-01 03:06:04 PM  
Basically, I feel like those moments when 6-year-old kids ask their parents "why does Timmy have 2 dads" or "why doesn't Shirley like to have sex" (lol) are seen as a nice warm teaching moment for our youth when we give nice accepting answers. But once you're past the age of 12, that somehow becomes an offensive question if you presume they should know already. Some people just don't.
 
2013-02-01 03:08:43 PM  

GoodyearPimp: rev. dave: If she is asexual because she has no desire, then that is a no brainer.  But if she is resisting sexual urges for some delusional reason, it will cause a lot of crazy.

Maybe it's due to Jesus.  Jesus was clearly asexual.


If it was Jesus, she would be a nun and you would not be reading that story, or she would be foaming at the mouth and try to include Jesus as part of every conversation related to it.

--We don't really have enough details about the life of Jesus.  Sex became an issue with the church hundreds of years after his death and that was as a control mechanism for priests and their inheritance.
 
2013-02-01 03:10:24 PM  
I think you're being too absolute in stating that, "A gender preference is a sexual choice." There are other reasons for preferring a particular gender, relating to scent, body size (stereotypically), past associations with comfort and safety, vocal pitch (again, stereotypically), and what one finds visually appealing. Asexuals can find the human body extraordinarily beautiful without finding it erotic. I would hope that you wouldn't insist that a preference for one type of beauty over another is fixedly sexual.
 
2013-02-01 03:12:51 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: It's not the same thing at ALL. Being gay does not farking remove the natural-born urge to fark that's in every animal, whether they have two legs or four. Being 'asexual' suggests that there IS no sexual wiring at all and I firmly believe that to be completely impossible in all, but the most damaged of minds.


Yes, it is.  The "sexual attraction" circuit of the brain can be wired in many different ways:  Straight.  Gay.  Bi.  No interest.  Complete repulsion.  Not only that, but sexuality is a continuum.  One person who is Bi can have equal attraction to both sexes.  Another might have a preference for one sex over the other, but not a strong enough preference to throw them into either the Straight or Gay categories.  Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you believe.  You have no special knowledge that "the natural-born urge to fark" is in "every animal".  You're making an assumption, based on statistics.  Also, you're confusing "damaged" with "different".

Gone In 26 Minutes: There are people who don't like sex because sex has always been unpleasant for them. They still have the urge, but they don't act on it because of the negative connotation. They are not asexual. Not by the true definition of it.There are people who don't like sex because they were told sex is bad. They are not asexual. They just repress the urge.If someone TRULY does not feel any sexual urge whatsoever, there are probably a host of other things wrong with them. Only someone mentally farked up beyond recognition can say, with a straight face, that they are truly asexual rather than 'sex has never really been fun for me.' THESE ARE NOT THE SAME THING. REPRESSING THE URGE IS STILL HAVING THE URGE.


It's nice that you can decide for other people whether or not what they're feeling is valid.  Did you even bother to read the article?  The woman in question states that not only does she not have any urge for sex, but that she's tried it on multiple occasions, with multiple partners, and she she finds the act repulsive.  Further, she says that there are no incidents or issues with her development which could have caused this, it's just they way she is.

I guess you think that she's lying.  I don't find it that difficult to believe that her brain is just wired differently.  The brain is a wonderfully complex organ that we know very little about.
 
2013-02-01 03:14:30 PM  

PrivateCaboose: I think the point is that being asexual means that this woman doesn't want to have sex.  But she still wants companionship.  And because she is asexual it is extremely difficult for her to find that companionship.  Asexuality may be much rarer than other forms of sexual expression, but that doesn't mean she can't keep looking for someone to share her life with. Yes, it's a pretty small dating pool, but I think it's good they're highlighting that asexual people ...


That's essentially it. Asexuality has varying degrees, much like normal sexuality. Some people who fall under the asexual umbrella still have libido and feel attraction, but sex itself doesn't interest them. Others have no attraction or libido at all and avoid contact altogether. Others have no interest in sex outside of a deeply romantic relationship (though not because of any religious or moral values).

There's a whole list of terms people use to identify their specific type of asexuality. It's about finding a way to identify and explain your not conforming to societal norms.
 
2013-02-01 03:14:31 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: I acknowledge that. That's why I say 'I believe' rather than 'this is the fact.' I accept the possibility that I'm wrong, but I have enough of an opinion about this that I will defend it until proven otherwise.


You have an opinion, but not the data to support it.  Only assumptions.
 
2013-02-01 03:14:49 PM  
You know, I do feel bad for this women for the shiat I am sure she goes through, and to each his own in terms of a person's sex life, but there's got to be some sort of disconnect between what she's saying, what's being reported, and reality.

The article is making it sound like she's looking for a romantic relationship, minus sex.  That's like looking to get married, minus the companionship.  It's just not what that word means.
 
2013-02-01 03:16:01 PM  
Oh, and so there's no confusion, the 'you' I was referencing in my post was Lockers: "A gender preference is a sexual choice. So how does that work. Clearly she has sexual attraction."
 
2013-02-01 03:16:32 PM  

lockers: PrivateCaboose: Perhaps she prefers the company of men. Prefers to do her cuddling (which she lists in the article as enjoying) with men. I know I certainly do.

I don't cuddle with women. I have cuddled with men I had no intention of sleeping with.

Are you asexual? If so, what makes a man better than a woman.  Also, even if you were up front about it, I guarantee most, if not all, of those men had a desire to sleep with you.  Not that cuddling obliges you to that or anything.


I am not. But I can recognize that there are plenty of reasons to prefer the companionship of one sex or gender over another. And some of those guys I cuddled with were gay. I'm betting they had no interest in having sex with me.
 
2013-02-01 03:18:23 PM  

udhq: You know, I do feel bad for this women for the shiat I am sure she goes through, and to each his own in terms of a person's sex life, but there's got to be some sort of disconnect between what she's saying, what's being reported, and reality.

The article is making it sound like she's looking for a romantic relationship, minus sex.  That's like looking to get married, minus the companionship.  It's just not what that word means.


No, that's just not what your definition of the word means.
 
2013-02-01 03:20:51 PM  

ram.1500: farm machine: Speaking of punctuation, ask Dan Marino the difference a period can make.

Let's not forget about punctuation!

"We're going out to eat Grandma!"
"We're going out to eat, Grandma!"


Or...

"We're going to eat out Grandma!"
"We're going to eat out, Grandma!"
 
2013-02-01 03:21:59 PM  
Shut up baraerojockey, you cock.

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2013-02-01 03:26:58 PM  
Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?
 
2013-02-01 03:28:07 PM  

metric: Asexual relationship? It's called marriage.


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2013-02-01 03:29:01 PM  

show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?


If you went camping with a bunch of guys and one night they all held you down and had sex with you, would you tell anyone about it or take the secret with you to your grave?


wanna go camping?
 
2013-02-01 03:30:26 PM  
Wants man to provide for her financial needs, won't put out.

Good luck with that, there may be a gay republican that wants to run for office.
 
2013-02-01 03:30:50 PM  

Carn: show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?

If you went camping with a bunch of guys and one night they all held you down and had sex with you, would you tell anyone about it or take the secret with you to your grave?


wanna go camping?


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I love that joke and tell it at every opportunity.
 
2013-02-01 03:31:25 PM  

orclover: What you and I think is pointless if she finds the right girl/guy who stimulates her intellectually, fabulous dancer, unbelievable cook, same interest, is a warm quiet heatrock in bed, smells like cinnamon all the time. If at that point she can put up with the occasional bout of sex just to keep that person happy, and it doesnt send her into night terrors or the hospital.


If you would give the same advice to a straight man whose girlfriend turns out to have a penis, then I'll admit at least that you're not inconsistent.
 
2013-02-01 03:31:39 PM  

PrivateCaboose: I am not. But I can recognize that there are plenty of reasons to prefer the companionship of one sex or gender over another. And some of those guys I cuddled with were gay. I'm betting they had no interest in having sex with me.


That's why I said most. But from a normal hetero male perspective cuddling is a romantic and sexual act. Every friend who has ever mentioned cuddling has offered their disappointment that it led nowhere. I won't claim to understand how gay men feel about it, because all of my gay acquaintances have never brought it up.
 
2013-02-01 03:31:40 PM  
Back in my even-more-single-than-I-am-now days, I used to run into a surprising number of women who would say "I'm not looking for sex."  To which I would say, that's fine, but then you're not looking for an adult, romantic relationship.

I mean, I'm not looking for JUST sex, or for sex on the first date, and I don't think a woman ever owes a man sex, but if it's permanently off the table, then don't lead me to believe that we're on a date, or that our relationship is at all romantic in nature, because sex is an inevitable part of that kind of relationship.

I feel like this woman is mostly likely looking for platonic friends, but source is reporting like she is being misleading.
 
2013-02-01 03:31:48 PM  

JesusJuice: I'd be okay with that as long as she didn't nag me or care if I farked other women.


I'm going to bet she wouldn't allow that. I mean she has effectively killed 95% of your reason for living.
 
2013-02-01 03:33:29 PM  

aerojockey: orclover: What you and I think is pointless if she finds the right girl/guy who stimulates her intellectually, fabulous dancer, unbelievable cook, same interest, is a warm quiet heatrock in bed, smells like cinnamon all the time. If at that point she can put up with the occasional bout of sex just to keep that person happy, and it doesnt send her into night terrors or the hospital.

If you would give the same advice to a straight man whose girlfriend turns out to have a penis, then I'll admit at least that you're not inconsistent.


See my post above.
 
2013-02-01 03:34:05 PM  

show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?


IIRC there was an article on Fark a few months ago about two women who had been in a long distance relationship for a while, one of them pretending to be a man. When they met in person the non-pretender ended up living with the first woman in a lesbian relationship (though I think she claimed to still be straight) for a couple years and said it was mostly about the companionship, and she did it because someone she cared about.

Personally, I wouldn't but I would still be friends with the person. My best friend from age 7-10 or so I found out was gay when I tracked him down on facebook recently, there were probably "signs" as a kid but I wouldn't have picked up on them and it didn't make much of a difference to me otherwise. I still went out and got a drink with him to chat about the old times. At no point did I feel compelled to whip it out.
 
2013-02-01 03:37:06 PM  

aerojockey: Without reading the thread, I am guessing that a lot of the same people who accept all the myriad of sexual preferences with LGBT people, are now being bigoted when confronted with asexuality.

/checks thread
//yep


Asexuality is part of the LGBTQ umbrella -- in fact, it's one of the reasons the "Q" is there (because asexuality isn't L,B,G, or T, strictly speaking, so there was a need for at least one more letter).  And your point is valid, if the point you're trying to make is that it would be at least somewhat hypocritical to support LGBT people but scorn the "Q" folks.

As for whether or not Farkers are being hypocritical in this particular thread, however, no more so than most threads, I would say.
 
2013-02-01 03:38:17 PM  

Electromax: show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?

IIRC there was an article on Fark a few months ago about two women who had been in a long distance relationship for a while, one of them pretending to be a man. When they met in person the non-pretender ended up living with the first woman in a lesbian relationship (though I think she claimed to still be straight) for a couple years and said it was mostly about the companionship, and she did it because someone she cared about.

Personally, I wouldn't but I would still be friends with the person. My best friend from age 7-10 or so I found out was gay when I tracked him down on facebook recently, there were probably "signs" as a kid but I wouldn't have picked up on them and it didn't make much of a difference to me otherwise. I still went out and got a drink with him to chat about the old times. At no point did I feel compelled to whip it out.


You know, I had a friend like that too, only he had moved away after high school. I had a very interesting conversation with him for about an hour on the phone a few years back.
 
2013-02-01 03:41:19 PM  

show me: Carn: show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast. Thing is, after a while, you find out he's not hetero. Not by a long shot. He wants to put it in your butt. Badly. I know you wouldn't really like doing that, but you would, every once in a while, because it makes your bestest friend ecstatically happy, right? Once a week? Once a month?

If you went camping with a bunch of guys and one night they all held you down and had sex with you, would you tell anyone about it or take the secret with you to your grave?


wanna go camping?

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I love that joke and tell it at every opportunity.


One of my favs as well.  Awesome when you tell it to someone who's never heard it.
 
2013-02-01 03:43:03 PM  

PrivateCaboose: udhq: You know, I do feel bad for this women for the shiat I am sure she goes through, and to each his own in terms of a person's sex life, but there's got to be some sort of disconnect between what she's saying, what's being reported, and reality.

The article is making it sound like she's looking for a romantic relationship, minus sex.  That's like looking to get married, minus the companionship.  It's just not what that word means.

No, that's just not what your definition of the word means.


No, that's not how language works.  There is a universally accepted definition of a what a "romantic relationship" is.

Poll 10,000 random people and I'd be shocked if you found 2 who felt that sexuality was not a component.
 
2013-02-01 03:46:43 PM  

show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast.


Okay, but that isn't a romantic relationship. I mean, romance is palpable. Part of that romantic feeling is an intense attraction on both sides. I don't feel romance to someone who is just hanging out.
 
2013-02-01 03:49:00 PM  

udhq: PrivateCaboose: udhq: You know, I do feel bad for this women for the shiat I am sure she goes through, and to each his own in terms of a person's sex life, but there's got to be some sort of disconnect between what she's saying, what's being reported, and reality.

The article is making it sound like she's looking for a romantic relationship, minus sex.  That's like looking to get married, minus the companionship.  It's just not what that word means.

No, that's just not what your definition of the word means.

No, that's not how language works.  There is a universally accepted definition of a what a "romantic relationship" is.

Poll 10,000 random people and I'd be shocked if you found 2 who felt that sexuality was not a component.


Coming from a background in biology, I had thought that there was a universally accepted definition of "asexual" but apparently not.
 
2013-02-01 03:51:54 PM  

lockers: show me: Okay, this is directed at no particular person, but look at a relationship like this: You are a hetero guy, and you have a guy buddy who is really cool. Likes the same sports as you, likes to drink the same kind of beer, likes the same kind of movies, etc. You hang out with this guy all the time and it's a blast.

Okay, but that isn't a romantic relationship. I mean, romance is palpable. Part of that romantic feeling is an intense attraction on both sides. I don't feel romance to someone who is just hanging out.


Point taken.
 
2013-02-01 04:02:31 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: God. All of these 'alternate' sexualities sound like people are trying too hard to make themselves seem unique and do so by damaging themselves and the people who have the misfortune of meeting. I fully believe that there is no such thing as asexual people (that aren't brain damaged in some way.) Sexuality is a core part of what makes us human and it's really a very simple thing. Everything else is just there to complicate it because people need to increasingly complicate EVERYTHING.

Women who call themselves asexual are either emotional stunted, repressing themselves in some way or just lying to try to get attention from people they think won't look at them as a hole to fark in an attempt to meet what they think is a 'nice guy.'

You're either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Those are the only things I will ever accept as naturally occurring in humanity. Everything else is just bullshiat in a vain attempt at making themselves look like a special snowflake.


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2013-02-01 04:03:04 PM  

lockers: PrivateCaboose: Perhaps she prefers the company of men. Prefers to do her cuddling (which she lists in the article as enjoying) with men. I know I certainly do.

I don't cuddle with women. I have cuddled with men I had no intention of sleeping with.

Are you asexual? If so, what makes a man better than a woman.  Also, even if you were up front about it, I guarantee most, if not all, of those men had a desire to sleep with you.  Not that cuddling obliges you to that or anything.


I am emotionally attracted to men. I don't fall in love with ladies, I fall in love with men. It's pretty simple. Romantic attraction can occur independently of sexual attraction.

(For what it's worth, I feel sorry for this lady. As demonstrated by this thread, it's hard for people to wrap their heads around the idea of asexuality, and she'll probably get more grief than sincere potential partners. Asexuality is a lot easier to deal with when you're happy alone.)
 
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