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(Vice)   "Dealing with food, water, and shelter in a harsh environment and building a community from scratch isn't a challenge, it's what we do for vacation," say Burning Man goers assisting in Hurricane Sandy cleanup. Gives "dusty in here" a new meaning   (vice.com ) divider line
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2013-02-01 12:45:40 PM  
4 votes:
People who devote their time and energy to helping others getting hated on? Blow me. A child of 5 can see bankers and politicians are evil and those who do good deeds are heroes. Way to be retarded.
2013-02-01 01:12:53 PM  
3 votes:

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


okay I'll bite, explain , exactly, what is "catered" about Burning Man, 'cause I swore my ticket said:
2.bp.blogspot.com

and during the first 90 mph windstorm that hit on day one when I was at there, I pretty much found out that it wasn't exaggeating
2013-02-01 01:01:31 PM  
3 votes:
It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled
2013-02-01 04:00:39 PM  
2 votes:

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there? o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?


Like Magorn, I prefer to spend the burn in my right mind. I'm not all that interested in drugs in the first place, and I have tried a few substances while there, but when it comes down to it, I'd rather be in my right mind on the playa, because most of the time I'm either working on something or meeting people. I don't even drink all that much, as the desert is (not surprisingly) a really unpleasant place to be drunk.
2013-02-01 03:21:32 PM  
2 votes:

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.
2013-02-01 02:01:53 PM  
2 votes:

flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.


  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my skillet I saw some noses perk up and a few people moseyed my direction.

  I of course, invited them to eat with me, but in typical burner fashion the first thing they did was offer me some of thier ingredients to contribute to the meal.    By the end of that first dinner there were probably a dozen people enjoying a communal meal improved from a dozen very different ingredients.  As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate.  I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.   Turns out she's been living on Cliff bars and C-ration style dehydrated army surplus food all week.  What to me was nothing more than a routine task, to her, she claimed had been one of the highlights of her week.

That's the essence of Playa:  everyone is an "artist" in some way, and can make an art out of anything they care about, Playa is the giant blank canvas where everyone art comes to gether ina gaint

cacaphonous, and occasionally glorious, even profoundly moving,  riot.
2013-02-01 01:49:30 PM  
2 votes:
I reread neurmancer the other month, and it struck me that in the intervening years, a TV tuned to a dead channel has gone from this:

listentothelion.typepad.com

To this:

media.cox.com

Ironically, the color went from dead grey to gorgeous sky blue in just a few decades.
2013-02-01 01:43:37 PM  
2 votes:

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.





listentothelion.typepad.com

Not obscure.
2013-02-01 01:37:59 PM  
2 votes:
remedyarn.com

I see one full RV and the rest are tents.  I know player hating on Fark is the MO, but are we now hating on volunteers that are rebuilding from Sandy?
So while every community has folks with higher means, Burners tend to be a big hearted bunch once you get past their prickly exterior.
2013-02-01 01:37:48 PM  
2 votes:

p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.
2013-02-01 12:48:16 PM  
2 votes:
Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.
2013-02-01 12:31:59 PM  
2 votes:

spentmiles: What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.


I bet $0, because it's nothing like that at all.  It's all volunteers, and it's bloody hard work.
http://www.burnerswithoutborders.org/about-us
2013-02-01 10:01:03 AM  
2 votes:
Burners Without Borders FTW!
2013-02-01 04:06:47 PM  
1 vote:
Hooray for Burners without Borders! Burning Man is an immense meeting ground for engineers, builders, and people with endless imagination and energy. It's so great to see that energy being harnessed into a good cause. Hopefully, with this organization and efforts by the Black Rock Foundation and others, the wider community will see that it's not just a group of naked, glittery, stoners having orgies in the desert. I'm a four-time Burning Man attendee myself (2005-2008), and no one would ever accuse me of being anything close to a hippie. It's such a diverse gathering, with the one constant element being a sort of extroverted creativity. I've seen tons of families there, and I look forward to taking my own son someday.
2013-02-01 04:03:17 PM  
1 vote:

Magorn: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?

I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a  martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>


That would be an insta-marry for me.  fark, I would even make all the sangwiches, mop floors, etc. etc., maybe even let her strap one on with that combination of awesome.  You, Sir, were in the right place in the right time and bully for you.


 

Keigh: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


Well I've been going through some life transitions lately, so maybe it'd be as good a time as any.  Some of the photos of the sculptures and so forth have been breathtaking.
2013-02-01 03:24:07 PM  
1 vote:

Keigh: it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


and of course, a bajillion more things, which other more articulate people in this thread are covering for me.

Magorn: ou need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.


like that, for a great example :)
2013-02-01 02:14:54 PM  
1 vote:

Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.
2013-02-01 01:45:55 PM  
1 vote:

Keigh: Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!

In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


YES! GOOD!

One thing I've learned from the playa is that when you have an idea for something that should exist, you don't say "someone should do this," you start taking the steps to make it happen. That's how I ended up running an EL wire repair booth at inner circle.
2013-02-01 01:41:55 PM  
1 vote:

oldfarthenry: [i1151.photobucket.com image 213x320]
Some people just want to watch the world burn - ing - man.
*snert*
Made an unintentional funny.

I'm off to help my fellow man, man - cuz it's the right thing to do.


you're slipping in your literdom, there wasn't a single flatus reference in that entire post.
2013-02-01 01:40:04 PM  
1 vote:

flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!


Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!
2013-02-01 01:36:50 PM  
1 vote:

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


You will, but no one will give a shiat. That's the beauty of Burning Man! Look all you want, ask before you touch, and *try* not to stare. That's it!

One of my favorite people from last year was a guy actually in his mid 60's at least who was riding around naked on a bicycle and if you waved to him he would stop and introduce himself with his self given Burner name and give you a leather keychain with the Man on it that he had made. And if you were showing tittays, he had special leather pouches that he adjusted to fit right between the boobies. Yes, of course I have one!

We asked that guy, and several older people when we greeted, "Why are you here?" The answer was usually the same, "Oh, just always wanted to go, knocking it off the bucket list!"

If you feel drawn to it, you'll find yourself a home.
2013-02-01 01:36:08 PM  
1 vote:
I watched a bunch of these folks doing a beach clean-up.  I was helping clean out a house that fronted the beach.

Half were really busting ass.

Half were just screwing off.

Half were stoned out of their faces.

But, the work got done, they didn't ask for money, supplies, anything really.   One girl asked to use a bathroom and we pointed to the long row of Port-o-potties.  She was annoyed that she couldn't use our bathroom until she saw that it was gone.   She then showed up the next day with the Wreath made of pine cones???? 

If you're helping and not getting in the way, good for you.  3 months and we're still trying to pick up the pieces.
2013-02-01 01:16:38 PM  
1 vote:
My casino hosts the "afterburn" after Burning Man. We must not get any of the good people because for free spirits they sure are entitled little pricks when they finally arrive here. This year we are changing out the linens and passing out necklaces with air fresheners attached at the front desk.
2013-02-01 01:08:06 PM  
1 vote:

Magorn: It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled


I'm sure a lot of them are competent. Even "trustafarians" have enough resources to pick up useful skills.

I'd even agree that many of them are good hearts and helpful spirits who only mean the best.

The idea that the whole organization doesn't revolve around required cashflow and is some kind of survival thing, however, is utter farking absurdity. It's just the booze and titties version of Disneyworld Campgrounds. Which is awesome, sure, but lets not pretend these people are climbing ice walls in the arctic or sleeping roped into trees in a rainforest somewhere.

Driving your RV out to the desert with 16 coolers full of ice and a couple of 6000w gas gennies is the guy you'd go to over the average bow hunter? Re think that some.

It's recreation and idea exchange. Not survival.
2013-02-01 12:31:50 PM  
1 vote:
Kudos to Burners Without Borders. Great group.

Maybe I'll see some fellow Fark burners on the playa this year (will be my 7th). Burning Man Fark Party!?
2013-02-01 12:24:15 PM  
1 vote:
What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.
2013-02-01 12:17:10 PM  
1 vote:
If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people

Who do you think is doing the catering?
2013-02-01 12:16:54 PM  
1 vote:
Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.
2013-02-01 12:14:44 PM  
1 vote:

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


How clever of you to discern the character and survival experience of 30,000 different people you've never met.  Have you even been to Burning Man?
2013-02-01 11:59:18 AM  
1 vote:
Thank you for this link, subby. I'm sick of all the hate we've been getting lately.
2013-02-01 11:08:44 AM  
1 vote:
I met a few of them in Union Beach. Great bunch of folks. Yea, we still have a lot of work to do...
 
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