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(Vice)   "Dealing with food, water, and shelter in a harsh environment and building a community from scratch isn't a challenge, it's what we do for vacation," say Burning Man goers assisting in Hurricane Sandy cleanup. Gives "dusty in here" a new meaning   (vice.com) divider line 104
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2013-02-01 01:40:04 PM

flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!


Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!
 
2013-02-01 01:41:17 PM
p the boiler - Also, my wife and I are in our early thirties, but most of the people we camp with are in their forties and fifties. There are way, way more people your age there than you are expecting.
 
2013-02-01 01:41:55 PM

oldfarthenry: [i1151.photobucket.com image 213x320]
Some people just want to watch the world burn - ing - man.
*snert*
Made an unintentional funny.

I'm off to help my fellow man, man - cuz it's the right thing to do.


you're slipping in your literdom, there wasn't a single flatus reference in that entire post.
 
2013-02-01 01:43:37 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.





listentothelion.typepad.com

Not obscure.
 
2013-02-01 01:45:03 PM
You know who else built up a community from scratch in a harsh environment?
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-01 01:45:55 PM

Keigh: Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!

In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


YES! GOOD!

One thing I've learned from the playa is that when you have an idea for something that should exist, you don't say "someone should do this," you start taking the steps to make it happen. That's how I ended up running an EL wire repair booth at inner circle.
 
2013-02-01 01:48:20 PM

flux: Keigh: Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!

In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!

YES! GOOD!

One thing I've learned from the playa is that when you have an idea for something that should exist, you don't say "someone should do this," you start taking the steps to make it happen. That's how I ended up running an EL wire repair booth at inner circle.


for those that don't speak Spanish... "el wire" means "the wire"
 
2013-02-01 01:49:30 PM
I reread neurmancer the other month, and it struck me that in the intervening years, a TV tuned to a dead channel has gone from this:

listentothelion.typepad.com

To this:

media.cox.com

Ironically, the color went from dead grey to gorgeous sky blue in just a few decades.
 
2013-02-01 01:54:32 PM
oh, hey, chechcal, I see Dustfish in your profile? AWESOME! I have a little plastic Dustfish cup from First Sunday last year that someone gave me to get wasted with since I had stupidly forgotten mine somewhere.

flux: One thing


YES! that's one thing, and there's about a brazilian more too of course!

I"ve never had any interest in a Fark party before this idea LOL
 
2013-02-01 01:58:48 PM

fireclown: I reread neurmancer the other month, and it struck me that in the intervening years, a TV tuned to a dead channel has gone from this:

[listentothelion.typepad.com image 400x300]

To this:

[media.cox.com image 225x225]

Ironically, the color went from dead grey to gorgeous sky blue in just a few decades.


I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

also, "gorgeous" isn't quite the word i'd use to describe that. If eye-piercing was a word, that's the word I'd use! *_*
 
2013-02-01 02:01:18 PM

flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.


shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...
 
2013-02-01 02:01:53 PM

flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.


  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my skillet I saw some noses perk up and a few people moseyed my direction.

  I of course, invited them to eat with me, but in typical burner fashion the first thing they did was offer me some of thier ingredients to contribute to the meal.    By the end of that first dinner there were probably a dozen people enjoying a communal meal improved from a dozen very different ingredients.  As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate.  I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.   Turns out she's been living on Cliff bars and C-ration style dehydrated army surplus food all week.  What to me was nothing more than a routine task, to her, she claimed had been one of the highlights of her week.

That's the essence of Playa:  everyone is an "artist" in some way, and can make an art out of anything they care about, Playa is the giant blank canvas where everyone art comes to gether ina gaint

cacaphonous, and occasionally glorious, even profoundly moving,  riot.
 
2013-02-01 02:02:49 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.


They were here at least 12 years ago....  I mean, so I've heard anway.  From a friend that you don't know.  She lives in Canada.
 
2013-02-01 02:03:44 PM

flux: p the boiler - Also, my wife and I are in our early thirties, but most of the people we camp with are in their forties and fifties. There are way, way more people your age there than you are expecting.


Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert
 
2013-02-01 02:03:54 PM

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


You'll be fine.  Most of the nudity is of the San Francisco style anyway, mid 50s guy with a cock ring.
 
2013-02-01 02:07:19 PM

Magorn: cook,


I thought I was ready to cook last year, and we ate well enough but nothing like I had hoped. mostly we didn't have a proper kitchen. However, my cardboard box solar oven apple pies and casserole were a roaring success!
 
2013-02-01 02:14:54 PM

Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.
 
2013-02-01 02:16:54 PM

Magorn: flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.

  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my ski ...


I haven't been done any of the burns, though I do have friends that do and help organize regional ones.

I do psytrace gatherings, though, and I love community camp stove meals!
 
2013-02-01 02:16:59 PM

Magorn: flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.

  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my skillet I saw some noses perk up and a few people moseyed my direction.

  I of course, invited them to eat with me, but in typical burner fashion the first thing they did was offer me some of thier ingredients to contribute to the meal.    By the end of that first dinner there were probably a dozen people enjoying a communal meal improved from a dozen very different ingredients.  As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate.  I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.   Turns out she's been living on Cliff bars and C-ration style dehydrated army surplus food all week.  What to me was nothing more than a routine task, to her, she claimed had been one of the highlights of her week.

That's the essence of Playa:  everyone is an "artist" in some way, and can make an art out of anything they care about, Playa is the giant blank canvas where everyone art comes to gether ina gaint

cacaphonous, and occasionally glorious, even profoundly moving,  riot.


So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

As for the article, good on them. I had some buddies that went up to volunteer after sandy. They couldn't get close to anywhere they would be needed to chop/move debris, unless they joined a group there and the only one they were getting pointed to wanted them to sign a paper saying they would hand out bibles after each job.

They ended up loading food at a firehouse then sitting around and going home.
 
2013-02-01 02:19:00 PM

p the boiler: Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert


I recognize that it's a huge undertaking, but it is a pretty amazing experience for kids as well. I have friends who don't take their kids, but make it into a vacation for their kids (spend a week with the grandparents or aunt and uncle or whoever) so that they can go. It is possible. Might be some work, but it's possible. You don't have to put it off.

Magorn: As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate. I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.


Yeah, see, this is the reason I tell newcomers that, however much food they're planning to bringing, it's too much.
 
2013-02-01 02:20:00 PM

icam: I haven't been done any of the burns, though I do have friends that do and help organize regional ones.

I do psytrace gatherings, though, and I love community camp stove meals!

FTFM

 
2013-02-01 02:25:16 PM

fireclown: Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 183x275]
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.


You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference.  : \
 
2013-02-01 02:37:21 PM

Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \


ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.
 
2013-02-01 02:41:24 PM

Keigh: oh, hey, chechcal, I see Dustfish in your profile? AWESOME! I have a little plastic Dustfish cup from First Sunday last year that someone gave me to get wasted with since I had stupidly forgotten mine somewhere.


That's awesome, I assume it's one of the "Too Drunk for Drama" cups?  My wife and I brought those, and last night we actually were talking about what next year's design should be.
 
2013-02-01 02:45:14 PM

flux: p the boiler: Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert

I recognize that it's a huge undertaking, but it is a pretty amazing experience for kids as well. I have friends who don't take their kids, but make it into a vacation for their kids (spend a week with the grandparents or aunt and uncle or whoever) so that they can go. It is possible. Might be some work, but it's possible. You don't have to put it off.

Magorn: As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate. I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.

Yeah, see, this is the reason I tell newcomers that, however much food they're planning to bringing, it's too much.


There is a defintie physiological phenomenon that happens out in desert conditions that zilches your appetite to the extent that most people I know, even experienced campers ended up bringing about double the food they needed.  I've been told by people way smarter than me that it's a bodily reflex to conserve water.  Apparently you use a fair amount of water in the digestion process so your body shuts down your desire for food to conserve that resource which the arid environment is telling it is very scarce.
 
2013-02-01 02:47:29 PM

chechcal: "Too Drunk for Drama"


That's exactly RIGHT!

WOW!

HELLO!

::DUST HUGS::

so basically, i have a tiny piece of you and your wife in my kitchen cabinet? amazing! And Thanks! You're up for a )*(Fark Party too, right?
 
2013-02-01 02:52:24 PM

liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?


"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.
 
2013-02-01 02:56:06 PM

Keigh: so basically, i have a tiny piece of you and your wife in my kitchen cabinet? amazing! And Thanks! You're up for a )*(Fark Party too, right?


Yes you do, glad that Dustfish's governing ethos is spreading across the country.

Fark Party on the Playa?  Eh, anything's possible.  Or you (and anyone else) can just show up at Dustfish and have fun.
 
2013-02-01 02:59:43 PM

chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.


If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.
 
2013-02-01 02:59:43 PM

chechcal: just show up at Dustfish


location set! LOL
 
2013-02-01 03:06:46 PM

fireclown: neuromancer


The same occurred to me when I was reading Snow Crash last week.  Something else to add to the list with floppy disks, rewinding, and work ethic that the newer generations will never comprehend.

/lawn
 
2013-02-01 03:09:28 PM

chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.


Exactly.  Me and My boys since we were coming from the East Coast had built "the Arc of the Covenant" a-custom built box with a 4x4x8 ID that was insulated with sheets of Wall insualtion to about R-40 on the outside.  It got its name from the smoke that came off of it everytime the lid was lifted owing to the 300lbs of dry ice inside, which among aother things kept frozen  the 1000 lbs of regular ice we used in the adjoining coolers for fresh, but not frozen items.  Thus we were able to distribute frozen ice-pops on Saturday to the assembled amazement of giftees, and were able to have fresh fruits and veggies all week.

I'd say though, that your oven probably would be an even bigger draw, because those are NOT a common Playa item.  Had a good friend who, when camping in Gigsville of yore ran a sit-down resturant with a nightly 4-course dinner menu and an afternoon formal high-tea.  As amazing as her dinners were,  it was the fresh scones at Tea that really wowed people, judging by the gifts she recieved in return.
 
2013-02-01 03:17:12 PM
If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?
 
2013-02-01 03:21:28 PM

liam76: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.


I like you Liam, rarely agree with you poltically, but you are both intelligent and articulate, and that counts for a lot in my book.  But in this case you are missing the point in an astonishing way.  The Entire POINT of going to Burning Man is knowing you are not prepared for the experience.  In our sanitized, mechanized and entirely-to-safe world, you need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.

Now, when I say unprepared, I don't meaning, lacking the basics of survival, or being stupid, bu this girl was neither.  She was just someone who had never gone without things like fresh fruit and veggies for very long and thus had no IDEA how important they were to her.   Their absence made her appreciate them in a way she hadn;t before.    No matter how much you read or think you are repared for the experience, you really aren't the first time.

My own revelations after my first trip, included learning that: a)  it IS possible to sunburn your lips, especially if you adopt an Arab-style burnoose rather than a convention brimmed hat as a head covering, b) unless a tube of chapstick specifically says it has an SPF factor, it doesn;t have ANY  and C) when living for a week in an enviroment were you are contantly coated in a fine covering of gypsum and Alkalai salts, no matter how manly a man you regard yourself as being, you'd damn sight better mositurize, particularly on your hands and feet or you WILL be sorry
 
2013-02-01 03:21:32 PM

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.
 
2013-02-01 03:23:44 PM

Magorn: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

Exactly.  Me and My boys since we were coming from the East Coast had built "the Arc of the Covenant" a-custom built box with a 4x4x8 ID that was insulated with sheets of Wall insualtion to about R-40 on the outside.  It got its name from the smoke that came off of it everytime the lid was lifted owing to the 300lbs of dry ice inside, which among aother things kept frozen  the 1000 lbs of regular ice we used in the adjoining coolers for fresh, but not frozen items.  Thus we were able to distribute frozen ice-pops on Saturday to the assembled amazement of giftees, and were able to have fresh fruits and veggies all week.

I'd say though, that your oven probably would be an even bigger draw, because those are NOT a common Playa item.  Had a good friend who, when camping in Gigsville of yore ran a sit-down resturant with a nightly 4-course dinner menu and an afternoon formal high-tea.  As amazing as her dinners were,  it was the fresh scones at Tea that really wowed people, judging by the gifts she recieved in return.


One of the main reasons I would want to go is to check things like that out. What kind of people wouldn't want to eat there because they felt they didn't have a good gift back, who ate there and left 'garbage' etc.
 
2013-02-01 03:24:07 PM

Keigh: it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


and of course, a bajillion more things, which other more articulate people in this thread are covering for me.

Magorn: ou need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.


like that, for a great example :)
 
2013-02-01 03:29:05 PM

fireclown: Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \

ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.


Actually, come to think of it, it's more a virus that a designer drug.
 
2013-02-01 03:32:59 PM

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?


I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>
 
2013-02-01 03:36:07 PM

moos: shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...


www.schaarwaechter.de
 
2013-02-01 03:36:36 PM
Magorn

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.okay I'll bite, explain , exactly, what is "catered" about Burning Man, 'cause I swore my ticket said:

What a catered party at Burning Man may look like:

laughingsquid.com

laughingsquid.com

laughingsquid.com

(It was for a commercial, but you get the idea.)

/and if you recognize the 2x4 lumber motif, you're right it's the Uchronia kids from 2006.
 
2013-02-01 03:44:21 PM

Magorn: liam76: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.

I like you Liam, rarely agree with you poltically, but you are both intelligent and articulate, and that counts for a lot in my book.  But in this case you are missing the point in an astonishing way.  The Entire POINT of going to Burning Man is knowing you are not prepared for the experience.  In our sanitized, mechanized and entirely-to-safe world, you need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.

Now, when I say unprepared, I don't meaning, lacking the basics of survival, or being stupid, bu this girl was neither.  She was just someone who had never gone without things like fresh fruit and veggies for very long and thus had no IDEA how important they were to her.   Their absence made her appreciate them in a way she hadn;t before.    No matter how much you read or think you are repared for the experience, you really aren't the first time.

My own revelations after my first trip, included learning that: a)  it IS possible to sunburn your lips, especially if you adopt an Arab-style burnoose rather than a convention brimmed hat as a head covering, b) unless a tube of chapstick specifically says it has an SPF factor, it doesn;t have ANY  and C) when living for a week in an enviroment were you are contantly coated in a fine covering of gypsum and Alkalai salts, no matter how manly a man you regard yourself as being, you'd damn sight better mositurize, particularly on your hands and feet or you WILL be sorry


I thought the point was more free exchange of things and appreciating the art.

The environment is kind of small potatoes, IMHO. May not mean much as I have never been there, but I have camped in some harsh desserts and very cold weather. But I am the typ of guy to way over prepare for those things. As I said above I would be interested in going.
 
2013-02-01 03:57:59 PM

Maud Dib: fireclown: Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 183x275]
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.

You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference.  : \


meh... i prefer to live in a place where  the rain is brain-colored and the thunder sounds like something remembering something.

/ this is not an attempt to compare literature, just descriptions of places...
 
2013-02-01 04:00:39 PM

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there? o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?


Like Magorn, I prefer to spend the burn in my right mind. I'm not all that interested in drugs in the first place, and I have tried a few substances while there, but when it comes down to it, I'd rather be in my right mind on the playa, because most of the time I'm either working on something or meeting people. I don't even drink all that much, as the desert is (not surprisingly) a really unpleasant place to be drunk.
 
2013-02-01 04:03:17 PM

Magorn: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?

I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a  martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>


That would be an insta-marry for me.  fark, I would even make all the sangwiches, mop floors, etc. etc., maybe even let her strap one on with that combination of awesome.  You, Sir, were in the right place in the right time and bully for you.


 

Keigh: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


Well I've been going through some life transitions lately, so maybe it'd be as good a time as any.  Some of the photos of the sculptures and so forth have been breathtaking.
 
2013-02-01 04:06:47 PM
Hooray for Burners without Borders! Burning Man is an immense meeting ground for engineers, builders, and people with endless imagination and energy. It's so great to see that energy being harnessed into a good cause. Hopefully, with this organization and efforts by the Black Rock Foundation and others, the wider community will see that it's not just a group of naked, glittery, stoners having orgies in the desert. I'm a four-time Burning Man attendee myself (2005-2008), and no one would ever accuse me of being anything close to a hippie. It's such a diverse gathering, with the one constant element being a sort of extroverted creativity. I've seen tons of families there, and I look forward to taking my own son someday.
 
2013-02-01 04:08:04 PM

Maud Dib: fireclown: Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \

ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.

Actually, come to think of it, it's more a virus that a designer drug.


I got it anyway.
 
2013-02-01 04:08:49 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: moos: shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...


Donald Duck can have a pass. He's a special snowflake. Everyone else who wants to go pantsless? off with the shirt.


welcome home
 
2013-02-01 04:29:42 PM
Tickets go on sale this Wednesday.

/ Of course if you're a hepcat you already have yours :)
 
2013-02-01 08:31:30 PM

Keigh: flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


I've done the same. Lots of orange in this thread now.
 
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