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(Vice)   "Dealing with food, water, and shelter in a harsh environment and building a community from scratch isn't a challenge, it's what we do for vacation," say Burning Man goers assisting in Hurricane Sandy cleanup. Gives "dusty in here" a new meaning   (vice.com ) divider line 104
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2013-02-01 10:01:03 AM  
Burners Without Borders FTW!
 
2013-02-01 11:08:44 AM  
I met a few of them in Union Beach. Great bunch of folks. Yea, we still have a lot of work to do...
 
2013-02-01 11:58:29 AM  
Good on 'em!  They are hereby granted kind karmic buds.
 
2013-02-01 11:59:18 AM  
Thank you for this link, subby. I'm sick of all the hate we've been getting lately.
 
2013-02-01 11:59:56 AM  
Red cross sounds like a bunch of dick bags. Granted that is a biased statement in the article but it is somewhat true.
 
2013-02-01 12:03:46 PM  
So they're high on a drug cocktail during these rescue efforts.
 
2013-02-01 12:08:47 PM  
Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.
 
2013-02-01 12:13:44 PM  
drug fiends. All of them

modern hippies suck as much as the original hippies
 
2013-02-01 12:14:44 PM  

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


How clever of you to discern the character and survival experience of 30,000 different people you've never met.  Have you even been to Burning Man?
 
2013-02-01 12:16:54 PM  
Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.
 
2013-02-01 12:17:10 PM  
If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people

Who do you think is doing the catering?
 
2013-02-01 12:19:18 PM  
justanotherfarkinfarker: "Red cross sounds like a bunch of dick bags."

Not that they *aren't*, but it's worth distinguishing between what's possible for a random group of volunteers, and what's sustainable for a 24x7 organization that can and will get sued.
 Formerly-desperate people who feel wronged about the help they got are what naturally prevents motivated/flexible/highly efficient ad-hoc organizations from reaching the Red Cross' size intact.

BWB are one demo-gone-awry away from no longer existing.
 
2013-02-01 12:22:10 PM  

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


Are you a troll?

::checks profile::

"floriduh"

Oh. close enough.

/subby
//damn I'm proud of this one.
 
2013-02-01 12:22:11 PM  
Burning Man checklist:

[] $400 ticket
[] glow sticks
[] hearing protection
[] fur outfits
[] high-quality dope of assorted types
[] Nimitz-class RV
[] champagne
[] half a month off
 
2013-02-01 12:23:59 PM  

Teufelaffe: Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.


Lol.

I'm open minded enough to understand that nudist do what they do because they feel more comfortable that way. But no one will ever convince me that riding a bike without pants is more comfortable than if you wear'em.
Put on some shorts until you bike to where you need to go and then stash 'em with your bag, naked burners.

(Got my tickets on Wednesday. Can't wait to go back)
 
2013-02-01 12:24:15 PM  
What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.
 
2013-02-01 12:29:54 PM  

studebaker hoch: Burning Man checklist:

[] $400 ticket
[] glow sticks
[] hearing protection
[] fur outfits
[] high-quality dope of assorted types
[] Nimitz-class RV
[] champagne
[] half a month off


That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.
 
2013-02-01 12:31:50 PM  
Kudos to Burners Without Borders. Great group.

Maybe I'll see some fellow Fark burners on the playa this year (will be my 7th). Burning Man Fark Party!?
 
2013-02-01 12:31:59 PM  

spentmiles: What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.


I bet $0, because it's nothing like that at all.  It's all volunteers, and it's bloody hard work.
http://www.burnerswithoutborders.org/about-us
 
2013-02-01 12:32:56 PM  
Those red eyes are not from the dust, they are from the weed.
 
2013-02-01 12:34:02 PM  
wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.
 
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2013-02-01 12:35:57 PM  
But isn't it a little cold for half-naked hulahoops and fur bikini flame-tossing?
 
2013-02-01 12:45:40 PM  
People who devote their time and energy to helping others getting hated on? Blow me. A child of 5 can see bankers and politicians are evil and those who do good deeds are heroes. Way to be retarded.
 
2013-02-01 12:48:16 PM  
Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.
 
2013-02-01 12:51:31 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.




I'm with you on that one. Thanks for the link. Why can't the kids these days just eat magic boom booms?
 
2013-02-01 12:52:15 PM  

missmez: prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.

How clever of you to discern the character and survival experience of 30,000 different people you've never met.  Have you even been to Burning Man?


Most of us can't afford it.
 
2013-02-01 12:52:41 PM  
*Naked guy with bullhorn*

I just got word that there have been some harsh trips going on out there man and I have an announcement to make...Do not eat the brown sandwiches, I repeat, DO NOT EAT THE BROWN SANDWICHES!
 
2013-02-01 12:56:12 PM  
chechcal:
That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.

Sparkle ponies should not be counted.
 
2013-02-01 12:56:46 PM  

Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.


Oh, absolutely not.  Just like "It tastes like chicken!", "Bacon goes with everything!" and "Zombies!", it gets funnier and funnier every time and marks the user as one with superior wit and an uncanny knack for developing original humor.
 
2013-02-01 12:56:50 PM  
If anyone can handle dust, it's burners. Everyone I know who's come back from there has a car covered in about an inch of playa dust.

Burners tend to be nerds who like to build stuff, spectators who want to see naked chicks, and chicks who need attention. The author seems to have conflated the now-defunct rave culture with the even-more-now-defunct hippie culture.
 
2013-02-01 12:59:30 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.

Oh, absolutely not.  Just like "It tastes like chicken!", "Bacon goes with everything!" and "Zombies!", it gets funnier and funnier every time and marks the user as one with superior wit and an uncanny knack for developing original humor.


You forgot to use the sarcastic font, there. I almost didn't see what you did, there.
 
2013-02-01 01:00:01 PM  
Met with their point person to help them find a base of operations.  Offered them our house on LBI, but they went someplace else.

So I'm getting a kick....
 
2013-02-01 01:01:31 PM  
It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled
 
2013-02-01 01:04:09 PM  

kbronsito: Teufelaffe: Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.

Lol.

I'm open minded enough to understand that nudist do what they do because they feel more comfortable that way. But no one will ever convince me that riding a bike without pants is more comfortable than if you wear'em.
Put on some shorts until you bike to where you need to go and then stash 'em with your bag, naked burners.

(Got my tickets on Wednesday. Can't wait to go back)


Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.


A common Burning Man saying is "See you in the dust"  So it really does fit here.
 
2013-02-01 01:06:01 PM  

moos: chechcal:
That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.

Sparkle ponies should not be counted.


Corralled, counted and branded is how I prefer to handle them.
 
2013-02-01 01:06:52 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: If anyone can handle dust, it's burners.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-01 01:08:06 PM  

Magorn: It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled


I'm sure a lot of them are competent. Even "trustafarians" have enough resources to pick up useful skills.

I'd even agree that many of them are good hearts and helpful spirits who only mean the best.

The idea that the whole organization doesn't revolve around required cashflow and is some kind of survival thing, however, is utter farking absurdity. It's just the booze and titties version of Disneyworld Campgrounds. Which is awesome, sure, but lets not pretend these people are climbing ice walls in the arctic or sleeping roped into trees in a rainforest somewhere.

Driving your RV out to the desert with 16 coolers full of ice and a couple of 6000w gas gennies is the guy you'd go to over the average bow hunter? Re think that some.

It's recreation and idea exchange. Not survival.
 
2013-02-01 01:12:53 PM  

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


okay I'll bite, explain , exactly, what is "catered" about Burning Man, 'cause I swore my ticket said:
2.bp.blogspot.com

and during the first 90 mph windstorm that hit on day one when I was at there, I pretty much found out that it wasn't exaggeating
 
2013-02-01 01:16:38 PM  
My casino hosts the "afterburn" after Burning Man. We must not get any of the good people because for free spirits they sure are entitled little pricks when they finally arrive here. This year we are changing out the linens and passing out necklaces with air fresheners attached at the front desk.
 
2013-02-01 01:22:47 PM  

StaleCoffee: Magorn: It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled

I'm sure a lot of them are competent. Even "trustafarians" have enough resources to pick up useful skills.

I'd even agree that many of them are good hearts and helpful spirits who only mean the best.

The idea that the whole organization doesn't revolve around required cashflow and is some kind of survival thing, however, is utter farking absurdity. It's just the booze and titties version of Disneyworld Campgrounds. Which is awesome, sure, but lets not pretend these people are climbing ice walls in the arctic or sleeping roped into trees in a rainforest somewhere.

Driv ...


It's not surivival per se (most of the time)  but a lot of the skills applicable to building stuff in the desert also work when needed to jury rig survival systems.  For example, on camp I saw at there managed to rig a continously running hot shower system for a dozen people at a time  that used almost no net water (drain filters took care of debris, the water was fed back into a large metal tank, were a fresnel lens based solar cooking system superheated the water back to steam to purify it- and then a second solar cooker heated the recondensed distilled water and a solar pump fed it into the showers- total cost of the system was around $1k IIRC)

And a few of the above mentioned folks ARE hunters, (got my first taste of fresk elk and venison at a burn), and we even have a guy who's an expert in wild mushroom identification (to the point that he teaches classes at local colleges on the subject)
 
2013-02-01 01:25:34 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2013-02-01 01:27:32 PM  
I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.
 
2013-02-01 01:32:34 PM  
i1151.photobucket.com
Some people just want to watch the world burn - ing - man.
*snert*
Made an unintentional funny.

I'm off to help my fellow man, man - cuz it's the right thing to do.
 
2013-02-01 01:33:17 PM  
You know, I have always wanted to attend Burning Man. I'm always open to new experiences. Any tips?
 
2013-02-01 01:33:39 PM  

techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?


MAKE IT HAPPEN!
 
2013-02-01 01:36:08 PM  
I watched a bunch of these folks doing a beach clean-up.  I was helping clean out a house that fronted the beach.

Half were really busting ass.

Half were just screwing off.

Half were stoned out of their faces.

But, the work got done, they didn't ask for money, supplies, anything really.   One girl asked to use a bathroom and we pointed to the long row of Port-o-potties.  She was annoyed that she couldn't use our bathroom until she saw that it was gone.   She then showed up the next day with the Wreath made of pine cones???? 

If you're helping and not getting in the way, good for you.  3 months and we're still trying to pick up the pieces.
 
2013-02-01 01:36:50 PM  

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


You will, but no one will give a shiat. That's the beauty of Burning Man! Look all you want, ask before you touch, and *try* not to stare. That's it!

One of my favorite people from last year was a guy actually in his mid 60's at least who was riding around naked on a bicycle and if you waved to him he would stop and introduce himself with his self given Burner name and give you a leather keychain with the Man on it that he had made. And if you were showing tittays, he had special leather pouches that he adjusted to fit right between the boobies. Yes, of course I have one!

We asked that guy, and several older people when we greeted, "Why are you here?" The answer was usually the same, "Oh, just always wanted to go, knocking it off the bucket list!"

If you feel drawn to it, you'll find yourself a home.
 
2013-02-01 01:37:48 PM  

p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.
 
2013-02-01 01:37:59 PM  
remedyarn.com

I see one full RV and the rest are tents.  I know player hating on Fark is the MO, but are we now hating on volunteers that are rebuilding from Sandy?
So while every community has folks with higher means, Burners tend to be a big hearted bunch once you get past their prickly exterior.
 
2013-02-01 01:39:37 PM  

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


there's a kidsville section. if I remember correctly, there were about 350 people camped in that section about 150 of those were kids.

My friend was doing a news story about BM and stopped by to talk to some people there. This scrawny nerdy middle schooler that she interviewed says to her: the kids at school are always picking on me because i'm different but no one picks on me here because everyone here is different.
 
2013-02-01 01:40:04 PM  

flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!


Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!
 
2013-02-01 01:41:17 PM  
p the boiler - Also, my wife and I are in our early thirties, but most of the people we camp with are in their forties and fifties. There are way, way more people your age there than you are expecting.
 
2013-02-01 01:41:55 PM  

oldfarthenry: [i1151.photobucket.com image 213x320]
Some people just want to watch the world burn - ing - man.
*snert*
Made an unintentional funny.

I'm off to help my fellow man, man - cuz it's the right thing to do.


you're slipping in your literdom, there wasn't a single flatus reference in that entire post.
 
2013-02-01 01:43:37 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.





listentothelion.typepad.com

Not obscure.
 
2013-02-01 01:45:03 PM  
You know who else built up a community from scratch in a harsh environment?
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-01 01:45:55 PM  

Keigh: Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!

In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


YES! GOOD!

One thing I've learned from the playa is that when you have an idea for something that should exist, you don't say "someone should do this," you start taking the steps to make it happen. That's how I ended up running an EL wire repair booth at inner circle.
 
2013-02-01 01:48:20 PM  

flux: Keigh: Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!

In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!

YES! GOOD!

One thing I've learned from the playa is that when you have an idea for something that should exist, you don't say "someone should do this," you start taking the steps to make it happen. That's how I ended up running an EL wire repair booth at inner circle.

for those that don't speak Spanish... "el wire" means "the wire"

 
2013-02-01 01:49:30 PM  
I reread neurmancer the other month, and it struck me that in the intervening years, a TV tuned to a dead channel has gone from this:

listentothelion.typepad.com

To this:

media.cox.com

Ironically, the color went from dead grey to gorgeous sky blue in just a few decades.
 
2013-02-01 01:54:32 PM  
oh, hey, chechcal, I see Dustfish in your profile? AWESOME! I have a little plastic Dustfish cup from First Sunday last year that someone gave me to get wasted with since I had stupidly forgotten mine somewhere.

flux: One thing


YES! that's one thing, and there's about a brazilian more too of course!

I"ve never had any interest in a Fark party before this idea LOL
 
2013-02-01 01:58:48 PM  

fireclown: I reread neurmancer the other month, and it struck me that in the intervening years, a TV tuned to a dead channel has gone from this:

[listentothelion.typepad.com image 400x300]

To this:

[media.cox.com image 225x225]

Ironically, the color went from dead grey to gorgeous sky blue in just a few decades.


I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

also, "gorgeous" isn't quite the word i'd use to describe that. If eye-piercing was a word, that's the word I'd use! *_*
 
2013-02-01 02:01:18 PM  

flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.


shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...
 
2013-02-01 02:01:53 PM  

flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.


  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my skillet I saw some noses perk up and a few people moseyed my direction.

  I of course, invited them to eat with me, but in typical burner fashion the first thing they did was offer me some of thier ingredients to contribute to the meal.    By the end of that first dinner there were probably a dozen people enjoying a communal meal improved from a dozen very different ingredients.  As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate.  I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.   Turns out she's been living on Cliff bars and C-ration style dehydrated army surplus food all week.  What to me was nothing more than a routine task, to her, she claimed had been one of the highlights of her week.

That's the essence of Playa:  everyone is an "artist" in some way, and can make an art out of anything they care about, Playa is the giant blank canvas where everyone art comes to gether ina gaint

cacaphonous, and occasionally glorious, even profoundly moving,  riot.
 
2013-02-01 02:02:49 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.


They were here at least 12 years ago....  I mean, so I've heard anway.  From a friend that you don't know.  She lives in Canada.
 
2013-02-01 02:03:44 PM  

flux: p the boiler - Also, my wife and I are in our early thirties, but most of the people we camp with are in their forties and fifties. There are way, way more people your age there than you are expecting.


Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert
 
2013-02-01 02:03:54 PM  

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


You'll be fine.  Most of the nudity is of the San Francisco style anyway, mid 50s guy with a cock ring.
 
2013-02-01 02:07:19 PM  

Magorn: cook,


I thought I was ready to cook last year, and we ate well enough but nothing like I had hoped. mostly we didn't have a proper kitchen. However, my cardboard box solar oven apple pies and casserole were a roaring success!
 
2013-02-01 02:14:54 PM  

Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.
 
2013-02-01 02:16:54 PM  

Magorn: flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.

  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my ski ...


I haven't been done any of the burns, though I do have friends that do and help organize regional ones.

I do psytrace gatherings, though, and I love community camp stove meals!
 
2013-02-01 02:16:59 PM  

Magorn: flux: p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.

The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.

  Oldest person I've seen at my regional Burn was a retired nurse in her late 70's and, after finding out what they did, she Volunteered as a Ranger!-(volunteer mediators, conflict resolution, medical and fire support for the burn) and was kick-ass at it.

The Key is the ethos of "no Spectators"  burning man is not someone putting on a show for you but everyone putting on a giant mutal improv together.   Now who you are, whether you realize it or not, you do have something to contribute.

The evening of day one of my first time in the desert, I ws feeling very low and out of sorts.  We'd just lived through a 90 mph windstorm during the day and I had just very hesitantly re-erected the tent (my home for the week)  I'd dropped earlier so it wouldn;t get shredded.  I was really wondering what I'd gotten myself into, and even worse wondering If I even belonged out there, I wasn't an amazing artist, or performer, or really anything else of note in my estimation, and I wondered how I could contribute to the amazing show of creativity around me.

That's when I busted out my campstove and decided I needed at hot meal to make myself feel better, so i started cooking.  Now I am not anyone's idea of a master chef, or anything like it, but I do know how to cook, and I was raised in a tradtion that just because you are camping, that's no excuse to open a can of beans and call it a meal,  so I'd  packed a fair amount fo fresh food and all my spices.  As some chpped onion hit my skillet I saw some noses perk up and a few people moseyed my direction.

  I of course, invited them to eat with me, but in typical burner fashion the first thing they did was offer me some of thier ingredients to contribute to the meal.    By the end of that first dinner there were probably a dozen people enjoying a communal meal improved from a dozen very different ingredients.  As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate.  I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.   Turns out she's been living on Cliff bars and C-ration style dehydrated army surplus food all week.  What to me was nothing more than a routine task, to her, she claimed had been one of the highlights of her week.

That's the essence of Playa:  everyone is an "artist" in some way, and can make an art out of anything they care about, Playa is the giant blank canvas where everyone art comes to gether ina gaint

cacaphonous, and occasionally glorious, even profoundly moving,  riot.


So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

As for the article, good on them. I had some buddies that went up to volunteer after sandy. They couldn't get close to anywhere they would be needed to chop/move debris, unless they joined a group there and the only one they were getting pointed to wanted them to sign a paper saying they would hand out bibles after each job.

They ended up loading food at a firehouse then sitting around and going home.
 
2013-02-01 02:19:00 PM  

p the boiler: Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert


I recognize that it's a huge undertaking, but it is a pretty amazing experience for kids as well. I have friends who don't take their kids, but make it into a vacation for their kids (spend a week with the grandparents or aunt and uncle or whoever) so that they can go. It is possible. Might be some work, but it's possible. You don't have to put it off.

Magorn: As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate. I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.


Yeah, see, this is the reason I tell newcomers that, however much food they're planning to bringing, it's too much.
 
2013-02-01 02:20:00 PM  

icam: I haven't been done any of the burns, though I do have friends that do and help organize regional ones.

I do psytrace gatherings, though, and I love community camp stove meals!

FTFM

 
2013-02-01 02:25:16 PM  

fireclown: Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 183x275]
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.


You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference.  : \
 
2013-02-01 02:37:21 PM  

Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \


ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.
 
2013-02-01 02:41:24 PM  

Keigh: oh, hey, chechcal, I see Dustfish in your profile? AWESOME! I have a little plastic Dustfish cup from First Sunday last year that someone gave me to get wasted with since I had stupidly forgotten mine somewhere.


That's awesome, I assume it's one of the "Too Drunk for Drama" cups?  My wife and I brought those, and last night we actually were talking about what next year's design should be.
 
2013-02-01 02:45:14 PM  

flux: p the boiler: Im in my late 30's now - it is when the kids are out of the house (hoping 17 years) that I will be the mid 50s pervert - today I am a late 30s pervert

I recognize that it's a huge undertaking, but it is a pretty amazing experience for kids as well. I have friends who don't take their kids, but make it into a vacation for their kids (spend a week with the grandparents or aunt and uncle or whoever) so that they can go. It is possible. Might be some work, but it's possible. You don't have to put it off.

Magorn: As the week wore on the dinner crowds grew and our nightly "stone soup" improv meals got more and more elaborate. I din't really get that I was doing anything special, (hell I was just cooking) until I was slathered with affectionate kisses on Thursday night from a girl who joined us that night who had been reduced to near tears by a simple plate of fresh stir-fried veggies, some meat, and a little green salad.

Yeah, see, this is the reason I tell newcomers that, however much food they're planning to bringing, it's too much.


There is a defintie physiological phenomenon that happens out in desert conditions that zilches your appetite to the extent that most people I know, even experienced campers ended up bringing about double the food they needed.  I've been told by people way smarter than me that it's a bodily reflex to conserve water.  Apparently you use a fair amount of water in the digestion process so your body shuts down your desire for food to conserve that resource which the arid environment is telling it is very scarce.
 
2013-02-01 02:47:29 PM  

chechcal: "Too Drunk for Drama"


That's exactly RIGHT!

WOW!

HELLO!

::DUST HUGS::

so basically, i have a tiny piece of you and your wife in my kitchen cabinet? amazing! And Thanks! You're up for a )*(Fark Party too, right?
 
2013-02-01 02:52:24 PM  

liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?


"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.
 
2013-02-01 02:56:06 PM  

Keigh: so basically, i have a tiny piece of you and your wife in my kitchen cabinet? amazing! And Thanks! You're up for a )*(Fark Party too, right?


Yes you do, glad that Dustfish's governing ethos is spreading across the country.

Fark Party on the Playa?  Eh, anything's possible.  Or you (and anyone else) can just show up at Dustfish and have fun.
 
2013-02-01 02:59:43 PM  

chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.


If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.
 
2013-02-01 02:59:43 PM  

chechcal: just show up at Dustfish


location set! LOL
 
2013-02-01 03:06:46 PM  

fireclown: neuromancer


The same occurred to me when I was reading Snow Crash last week.  Something else to add to the list with floppy disks, rewinding, and work ethic that the newer generations will never comprehend.

/lawn
 
2013-02-01 03:09:28 PM  

chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.


Exactly.  Me and My boys since we were coming from the East Coast had built "the Arc of the Covenant" a-custom built box with a 4x4x8 ID that was insulated with sheets of Wall insualtion to about R-40 on the outside.  It got its name from the smoke that came off of it everytime the lid was lifted owing to the 300lbs of dry ice inside, which among aother things kept frozen  the 1000 lbs of regular ice we used in the adjoining coolers for fresh, but not frozen items.  Thus we were able to distribute frozen ice-pops on Saturday to the assembled amazement of giftees, and were able to have fresh fruits and veggies all week.

I'd say though, that your oven probably would be an even bigger draw, because those are NOT a common Playa item.  Had a good friend who, when camping in Gigsville of yore ran a sit-down resturant with a nightly 4-course dinner menu and an afternoon formal high-tea.  As amazing as her dinners were,  it was the fresh scones at Tea that really wowed people, judging by the gifts she recieved in return.
 
2013-02-01 03:17:12 PM  
If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?
 
2013-02-01 03:21:28 PM  

liam76: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.


I like you Liam, rarely agree with you poltically, but you are both intelligent and articulate, and that counts for a lot in my book.  But in this case you are missing the point in an astonishing way.  The Entire POINT of going to Burning Man is knowing you are not prepared for the experience.  In our sanitized, mechanized and entirely-to-safe world, you need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.

Now, when I say unprepared, I don't meaning, lacking the basics of survival, or being stupid, bu this girl was neither.  She was just someone who had never gone without things like fresh fruit and veggies for very long and thus had no IDEA how important they were to her.   Their absence made her appreciate them in a way she hadn;t before.    No matter how much you read or think you are repared for the experience, you really aren't the first time.

My own revelations after my first trip, included learning that: a)  it IS possible to sunburn your lips, especially if you adopt an Arab-style burnoose rather than a convention brimmed hat as a head covering, b) unless a tube of chapstick specifically says it has an SPF factor, it doesn;t have ANY  and C) when living for a week in an enviroment were you are contantly coated in a fine covering of gypsum and Alkalai salts, no matter how manly a man you regard yourself as being, you'd damn sight better mositurize, particularly on your hands and feet or you WILL be sorry
 
2013-02-01 03:21:32 PM  

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.
 
2013-02-01 03:23:44 PM  

Magorn: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

Exactly.  Me and My boys since we were coming from the East Coast had built "the Arc of the Covenant" a-custom built box with a 4x4x8 ID that was insulated with sheets of Wall insualtion to about R-40 on the outside.  It got its name from the smoke that came off of it everytime the lid was lifted owing to the 300lbs of dry ice inside, which among aother things kept frozen  the 1000 lbs of regular ice we used in the adjoining coolers for fresh, but not frozen items.  Thus we were able to distribute frozen ice-pops on Saturday to the assembled amazement of giftees, and were able to have fresh fruits and veggies all week.

I'd say though, that your oven probably would be an even bigger draw, because those are NOT a common Playa item.  Had a good friend who, when camping in Gigsville of yore ran a sit-down resturant with a nightly 4-course dinner menu and an afternoon formal high-tea.  As amazing as her dinners were,  it was the fresh scones at Tea that really wowed people, judging by the gifts she recieved in return.


One of the main reasons I would want to go is to check things like that out. What kind of people wouldn't want to eat there because they felt they didn't have a good gift back, who ate there and left 'garbage' etc.
 
2013-02-01 03:24:07 PM  

Keigh: it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


and of course, a bajillion more things, which other more articulate people in this thread are covering for me.

Magorn: ou need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.


like that, for a great example :)
 
2013-02-01 03:29:05 PM  

fireclown: Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \

ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.


Actually, come to think of it, it's more a virus that a designer drug.
 
2013-02-01 03:32:59 PM  

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?


I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>
 
2013-02-01 03:36:07 PM  

moos: shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...


www.schaarwaechter.de
 
2013-02-01 03:36:36 PM  
Magorn

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.okay I'll bite, explain , exactly, what is "catered" about Burning Man, 'cause I swore my ticket said:

What a catered party at Burning Man may look like:

laughingsquid.com

laughingsquid.com

laughingsquid.com

(It was for a commercial, but you get the idea.)

/and if you recognize the 2x4 lumber motif, you're right it's the Uchronia kids from 2006.
 
2013-02-01 03:44:21 PM  

Magorn: liam76: chechcal: liam76: So this group that you would run with in a zombie apocalypse was the same one where people cried over a hot meal because they were so ill prepared?

"eating only cliff bars and MRE's" is not the same as "ill prepared".  She didn't have fresh veggies, but it takes a bit of work and expense to keep things fresh for a week in 90-100 degree temperatures.  Sounds like she had food, just wasn't all that fun to eat after the first 4 days. Also, this is a group of 30-50,000 people at any one event, and the number of people who have been to Burning Man at least once probably totals closer to 500k.  So to point to one person and say "this defines this group" is pretty myopic.

I've been going for 7 years, my wife for 11.  We've both graduated from "MRE's and unheated canned ravioli" to "communal kitchen" to "DPW commissary pass (when working on a massive project and we were out there for a month)", to now where we have the means and the transportation ability to bring our own kickass kitchen  setup with a 60k BTU camp stove (http://www.campchef.com/yukon-2-burner-stove.html) and a large freezer/cooler with dry ice.

If veggies make you cry, you were I'll prepared. Doesn't mean you are going to die, just that if you miss something that bad you should have brought it, hence were ill prepared.

I am not judging the whole group off of one. I don't think they are all like that, just pointing out the problem with trying to put them on a pedestal like that and ignoring people like in his last story.

Fir the record, i am bot bashing them, I would love to go. Not because they are all amazing but because it sounds like fun. I think the extreme views about them either way are a bit much.

I like you Liam, rarely agree with you poltically, but you are both intelligent and articulate, and that counts for a lot in my book.  But in this case you are missing the point in an astonishing way.  The Entire POINT of going to Burning Man is knowing you are not prepared for the experience.  In our sanitized, mechanized and entirely-to-safe world, you need to go beyond your physical and mental comfort zones once in a while if you ever hope to grow or learn about yourself.

Now, when I say unprepared, I don't meaning, lacking the basics of survival, or being stupid, bu this girl was neither.  She was just someone who had never gone without things like fresh fruit and veggies for very long and thus had no IDEA how important they were to her.   Their absence made her appreciate them in a way she hadn;t before.    No matter how much you read or think you are repared for the experience, you really aren't the first time.

My own revelations after my first trip, included learning that: a)  it IS possible to sunburn your lips, especially if you adopt an Arab-style burnoose rather than a convention brimmed hat as a head covering, b) unless a tube of chapstick specifically says it has an SPF factor, it doesn;t have ANY  and C) when living for a week in an enviroment were you are contantly coated in a fine covering of gypsum and Alkalai salts, no matter how manly a man you regard yourself as being, you'd damn sight better mositurize, particularly on your hands and feet or you WILL be sorry


I thought the point was more free exchange of things and appreciating the art.

The environment is kind of small potatoes, IMHO. May not mean much as I have never been there, but I have camped in some harsh desserts and very cold weather. But I am the typ of guy to way over prepare for those things. As I said above I would be interested in going.
 
2013-02-01 03:57:59 PM  

Maud Dib: fireclown: Keigh: I'm going to have to look into whatever it is you're talking about, but just fyi, I think that if you have a digital over the air channel box, you can still get some very snowy static.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 183x275]
Starts with the line "the sky above the port was the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel".  Still a great read.

You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference.  : \


meh... i prefer to live in a place where  the rain is brain-colored and the thunder sounds like something remembering something.

/ this is not an attempt to compare literature, just descriptions of places...
 
2013-02-01 04:00:39 PM  

Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there? o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?


Like Magorn, I prefer to spend the burn in my right mind. I'm not all that interested in drugs in the first place, and I have tried a few substances while there, but when it comes down to it, I'd rather be in my right mind on the playa, because most of the time I'm either working on something or meeting people. I don't even drink all that much, as the desert is (not surprisingly) a really unpleasant place to be drunk.
 
2013-02-01 04:03:17 PM  

Magorn: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?

I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a  martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>


That would be an insta-marry for me.  fark, I would even make all the sangwiches, mop floors, etc. etc., maybe even let her strap one on with that combination of awesome.  You, Sir, were in the right place in the right time and bully for you.


 

Keigh: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O


abso. fuc*ing. LUTELY.

it is NOT a giant drug party. It's a giant ART festival with street signs.


Well I've been going through some life transitions lately, so maybe it'd be as good a time as any.  Some of the photos of the sculptures and so forth have been breathtaking.
 
2013-02-01 04:06:47 PM  
Hooray for Burners without Borders! Burning Man is an immense meeting ground for engineers, builders, and people with endless imagination and energy. It's so great to see that energy being harnessed into a good cause. Hopefully, with this organization and efforts by the Black Rock Foundation and others, the wider community will see that it's not just a group of naked, glittery, stoners having orgies in the desert. I'm a four-time Burning Man attendee myself (2005-2008), and no one would ever accuse me of being anything close to a hippie. It's such a diverse gathering, with the one constant element being a sort of extroverted creativity. I've seen tons of families there, and I look forward to taking my own son someday.
 
2013-02-01 04:08:04 PM  

Maud Dib: fireclown: Maud Dib: You all totally farked up my Snowcrash reference. : \

ACHT!  I feel quite the fool.  Sorry, the static works on a few levels.  I should probably reread snowcrash.

Actually, come to think of it, it's more a virus that a designer drug.


I got it anyway.
 
2013-02-01 04:08:49 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: moos: shirtc**king should really be banned, even at burning man...


Donald Duck can have a pass. He's a special snowflake. Everyone else who wants to go pantsless? off with the shirt.


welcome home
 
2013-02-01 04:29:42 PM  
Tickets go on sale this Wednesday.

/ Of course if you're a hepcat you already have yours :)
 
2013-02-01 08:31:30 PM  

Keigh: flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


I've done the same. Lots of orange in this thread now.
 
2013-02-01 09:19:57 PM  
Why all the hippie hate y'all?  I know, it's a BM in-joke thing, especially among badass DPW types (respect).  I have been to 3 burns and could never understand why hippies are considered the stepchild.  I even camped with a glitzy sound camp and experienced it firsthand.  I'm hoping next time to camp at Heebee Geebee Healers, where that vibe doesn't really exist.  Anyhow, not all hippies are the same... not all are moochers, unwashed, ditzy or constantly stoned.  I enjoy mingling with bodyworkers and yogis, that's more my scene on the playa... I go to a lot of talks and workshops... There is so much to explore in that city each year.  Unfortunately won't make it this time around.  Have fun and remember, Safety Third...
 
2013-02-01 11:13:59 PM  

Magorn: Stinkyy: If you don't do drugs, is it worth going out there?  o_O
In that same vein, will hippie topless babes (the best kind) shun my magic dragon?

I've personally never done any drug but ethanol in various delicious, brewed, pressed and/or single-malted varieties, and I damn sure wouldn't on playa because when I meet a gorgeous, naked, Asian girl who was a martial-arts expert, neuro-trauma surgeon, rock guitarist with a keen interest in particle physics ( I did)   I want to know that really happened and I didn;t trip out while watching <i> Buckaroo Banzai</I>


Reminds me of this one time, at PENNSIC...

It could not have JUST been head trauma.
 
2013-02-02 03:31:09 AM  
I am 60 and have been burning for years.  I don't drink or drug yet it is the most fun I have all year.  I do regional burns all over. (Just got back this weekend from Kiwiburn in New Zealand)  I am retired so I have time.
BWB does great work! So does Black Rock Solar (Donated over 1M sq ft of solar grid to schools and hospitals in NV)

We should get an event in "Who What Where" for a Fark party at this years burn
 
2013-02-02 12:07:13 PM  

Keigh: flux: techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Could it possibly? I THINK IT CAN!


In fact, i'm getting started on the planning TODAY by farkying anyone in this thread who comes out as a Burner in a lovely burny shade of orange!


Seven-timer here: 2005-2011. May try to go back this year, still on the fence about it. Went each time as part of a brass band that led the Billion Bunny March. Last 2 times we were in the Fire Conclave. Got to meet the Grand Pooh-bah Himself, Larry Harvey (he has really bad teeth).
 
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