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(Vice)   "Dealing with food, water, and shelter in a harsh environment and building a community from scratch isn't a challenge, it's what we do for vacation," say Burning Man goers assisting in Hurricane Sandy cleanup. Gives "dusty in here" a new meaning   (vice.com) divider line 104
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2013-02-01 10:01:03 AM
Burners Without Borders FTW!
 
2013-02-01 11:08:44 AM
I met a few of them in Union Beach. Great bunch of folks. Yea, we still have a lot of work to do...
 
2013-02-01 11:58:29 AM
Good on 'em!  They are hereby granted kind karmic buds.
 
2013-02-01 11:59:18 AM
Thank you for this link, subby. I'm sick of all the hate we've been getting lately.
 
2013-02-01 11:59:56 AM
Red cross sounds like a bunch of dick bags. Granted that is a biased statement in the article but it is somewhat true.
 
2013-02-01 12:03:46 PM
So they're high on a drug cocktail during these rescue efforts.
 
2013-02-01 12:08:47 PM
Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.
 
2013-02-01 12:13:44 PM
drug fiends. All of them

modern hippies suck as much as the original hippies
 
2013-02-01 12:14:44 PM

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


How clever of you to discern the character and survival experience of 30,000 different people you've never met.  Have you even been to Burning Man?
 
2013-02-01 12:16:54 PM
Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.
 
2013-02-01 12:17:10 PM
If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people

Who do you think is doing the catering?
 
2013-02-01 12:19:18 PM
justanotherfarkinfarker: "Red cross sounds like a bunch of dick bags."

Not that they *aren't*, but it's worth distinguishing between what's possible for a random group of volunteers, and what's sustainable for a 24x7 organization that can and will get sued.
 Formerly-desperate people who feel wronged about the help they got are what naturally prevents motivated/flexible/highly efficient ad-hoc organizations from reaching the Red Cross' size intact.

BWB are one demo-gone-awry away from no longer existing.
 
2013-02-01 12:22:10 PM

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


Are you a troll?

::checks profile::

"floriduh"

Oh. close enough.

/subby
//damn I'm proud of this one.
 
2013-02-01 12:22:11 PM
Burning Man checklist:

[] $400 ticket
[] glow sticks
[] hearing protection
[] fur outfits
[] high-quality dope of assorted types
[] Nimitz-class RV
[] champagne
[] half a month off
 
2013-02-01 12:23:59 PM

Teufelaffe: Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.


Lol.

I'm open minded enough to understand that nudist do what they do because they feel more comfortable that way. But no one will ever convince me that riding a bike without pants is more comfortable than if you wear'em.
Put on some shorts until you bike to where you need to go and then stash 'em with your bag, naked burners.

(Got my tickets on Wednesday. Can't wait to go back)
 
2013-02-01 12:24:15 PM
What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.
 
2013-02-01 12:29:54 PM

studebaker hoch: Burning Man checklist:

[] $400 ticket
[] glow sticks
[] hearing protection
[] fur outfits
[] high-quality dope of assorted types
[] Nimitz-class RV
[] champagne
[] half a month off


That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.
 
2013-02-01 12:31:50 PM
Kudos to Burners Without Borders. Great group.

Maybe I'll see some fellow Fark burners on the playa this year (will be my 7th). Burning Man Fark Party!?
 
2013-02-01 12:31:59 PM

spentmiles: What do you want to bet it's one guy with money and talent and a whole bunch of hanger-on's, mooches, and chicks who basically fark for money.


I bet $0, because it's nothing like that at all.  It's all volunteers, and it's bloody hard work.
http://www.burnerswithoutborders.org/about-us
 
2013-02-01 12:32:56 PM
Those red eyes are not from the dust, they are from the weed.
 
2013-02-01 12:34:02 PM
wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.
 
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2013-02-01 12:35:57 PM
But isn't it a little cold for half-naked hulahoops and fur bikini flame-tossing?
 
2013-02-01 12:45:40 PM
People who devote their time and energy to helping others getting hated on? Blow me. A child of 5 can see bankers and politicians are evil and those who do good deeds are heroes. Way to be retarded.
 
2013-02-01 12:48:16 PM
Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.
 
2013-02-01 12:51:31 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: wearing furry purple pants while tripping on 2CT7 and convulsing to dubstep

I hate to be all onionbelt here but I had to look that up. Cyberpunk has been predicting "designer drugs" for as long as I've been alive but now they're here and I don't know what 2CT7NBOH/NBOM/etc are.




I'm with you on that one. Thanks for the link. Why can't the kids these days just eat magic boom booms?
 
2013-02-01 12:52:15 PM

missmez: prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.

How clever of you to discern the character and survival experience of 30,000 different people you've never met.  Have you even been to Burning Man?


Most of us can't afford it.
 
2013-02-01 12:52:41 PM
*Naked guy with bullhorn*

I just got word that there have been some harsh trips going on out there man and I have an announcement to make...Do not eat the brown sandwiches, I repeat, DO NOT EAT THE BROWN SANDWICHES!
 
2013-02-01 12:56:12 PM
chechcal:
That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.

Sparkle ponies should not be counted.
 
2013-02-01 12:56:46 PM

Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.


Oh, absolutely not.  Just like "It tastes like chicken!", "Bacon goes with everything!" and "Zombies!", it gets funnier and funnier every time and marks the user as one with superior wit and an uncanny knack for developing original humor.
 
2013-02-01 12:56:50 PM
If anyone can handle dust, it's burners. Everyone I know who's come back from there has a car covered in about an inch of playa dust.

Burners tend to be nerds who like to build stuff, spectators who want to see naked chicks, and chicks who need attention. The author seems to have conflated the now-defunct rave culture with the even-more-now-defunct hippie culture.
 
2013-02-01 12:59:30 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.

Oh, absolutely not.  Just like "It tastes like chicken!", "Bacon goes with everything!" and "Zombies!", it gets funnier and funnier every time and marks the user as one with superior wit and an uncanny knack for developing original humor.


You forgot to use the sarcastic font, there. I almost didn't see what you did, there.
 
2013-02-01 01:00:01 PM
Met with their point person to help them find a base of operations.  Offered them our house on LBI, but they went someplace else.

So I'm getting a kick....
 
2013-02-01 01:01:31 PM
It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled
 
2013-02-01 01:04:09 PM

kbronsito: Teufelaffe: Victims of Sandy were heard to say that they were very grateful for the help, but they did wish the Burners would wear some clothes while helping out.

Lol.

I'm open minded enough to understand that nudist do what they do because they feel more comfortable that way. But no one will ever convince me that riding a bike without pants is more comfortable than if you wear'em.
Put on some shorts until you bike to where you need to go and then stash 'em with your bag, naked burners.

(Got my tickets on Wednesday. Can't wait to go back)


Gentoolive: Can we retire the whole "dusty in here" thing.


A common Burning Man saying is "See you in the dust"  So it really does fit here.
 
2013-02-01 01:06:01 PM

moos: chechcal:
That's certainly one way of doing it, though I've seen that list pared down to just "champagne" for some people.

Sparkle ponies should not be counted.


Corralled, counted and branded is how I prefer to handle them.
 
2013-02-01 01:06:52 PM

Contents Under Pressure: If anyone can handle dust, it's burners.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-01 01:08:06 PM

Magorn: It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled


I'm sure a lot of them are competent. Even "trustafarians" have enough resources to pick up useful skills.

I'd even agree that many of them are good hearts and helpful spirits who only mean the best.

The idea that the whole organization doesn't revolve around required cashflow and is some kind of survival thing, however, is utter farking absurdity. It's just the booze and titties version of Disneyworld Campgrounds. Which is awesome, sure, but lets not pretend these people are climbing ice walls in the arctic or sleeping roped into trees in a rainforest somewhere.

Driving your RV out to the desert with 16 coolers full of ice and a couple of 6000w gas gennies is the guy you'd go to over the average bow hunter? Re think that some.

It's recreation and idea exchange. Not survival.
 
2013-02-01 01:12:53 PM

prjindigo: Only thing anybody that goes to burning man has ever done from scratch is open a scab...

If you have to go to a catered party to "rough it" then you've got no place helping people OR entering New Jersey.


okay I'll bite, explain , exactly, what is "catered" about Burning Man, 'cause I swore my ticket said:
2.bp.blogspot.com

and during the first 90 mph windstorm that hit on day one when I was at there, I pretty much found out that it wasn't exaggeating
 
2013-02-01 01:16:38 PM
My casino hosts the "afterburn" after Burning Man. We must not get any of the good people because for free spirits they sure are entitled little pricks when they finally arrive here. This year we are changing out the linens and passing out necklaces with air fresheners attached at the front desk.
 
2013-02-01 01:22:47 PM

StaleCoffee: Magorn: It's easy to dismiss Burner's as an analgamation of Trustifarians, Hippies and raver kids with a few Mad max cos-players thrown into the mix.  To to be sure there are some of all of the above in the "Burner" family, but after more than a decade of running a regional burn I can tell you you'd be astonished at how incredibly competent many of these folks are and how many amazingly useful skills they often have.

 It was only recently that I realized that it unusual to know as many women as I do who are amazing with an arc-welder and kick-ass on a lathe or drill press as I do for example; and I've seen many pull off logistical feats that would make an Army quartermaster jealous or a AF loadmaster blush (hell more than one of them I know WERE ex-loadmasters). MacGuyver would be considered only "slightly handy" compared to many of these folks, particualrly the DPW types who work to do set up and take down of the Big Burn or even our regional


The burn I've been involved in is hoping to buy a fair chunk of farm land for a permanent home soon, and I'll just say this:  if the Zombie apocalypse/collapse of civilization ever comes, that's where I'm taking my family.  The skill set of everyone I know personally who would be there (from the EMTs, trauma, surgeons, sculptors, engineers, farmers and even an Ex-SEAL or two) would give us a fighting chance of re-booting civilization after the dust settled

I'm sure a lot of them are competent. Even "trustafarians" have enough resources to pick up useful skills.

I'd even agree that many of them are good hearts and helpful spirits who only mean the best.

The idea that the whole organization doesn't revolve around required cashflow and is some kind of survival thing, however, is utter farking absurdity. It's just the booze and titties version of Disneyworld Campgrounds. Which is awesome, sure, but lets not pretend these people are climbing ice walls in the arctic or sleeping roped into trees in a rainforest somewhere.

Driv ...


It's not surivival per se (most of the time)  but a lot of the skills applicable to building stuff in the desert also work when needed to jury rig survival systems.  For example, on camp I saw at there managed to rig a continously running hot shower system for a dozen people at a time  that used almost no net water (drain filters took care of debris, the water was fed back into a large metal tank, were a fresnel lens based solar cooking system superheated the water back to steam to purify it- and then a second solar cooker heated the recondensed distilled water and a solar pump fed it into the showers- total cost of the system was around $1k IIRC)

And a few of the above mentioned folks ARE hunters, (got my first taste of fresk elk and venison at a burn), and we even have a guy who's an expert in wild mushroom identification (to the point that he teaches classes at local colleges on the subject)
 
2013-02-01 01:25:34 PM
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2013-02-01 01:27:32 PM
I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.
 
2013-02-01 01:32:34 PM
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Some people just want to watch the world burn - ing - man.
*snert*
Made an unintentional funny.

I'm off to help my fellow man, man - cuz it's the right thing to do.
 
2013-02-01 01:33:17 PM
You know, I have always wanted to attend Burning Man. I'm always open to new experiences. Any tips?
 
2013-02-01 01:33:39 PM

techbuzz: Burning Man Fark Party!?


MAKE IT HAPPEN!
 
2013-02-01 01:36:08 PM
I watched a bunch of these folks doing a beach clean-up.  I was helping clean out a house that fronted the beach.

Half were really busting ass.

Half were just screwing off.

Half were stoned out of their faces.

But, the work got done, they didn't ask for money, supplies, anything really.   One girl asked to use a bathroom and we pointed to the long row of Port-o-potties.  She was annoyed that she couldn't use our bathroom until she saw that it was gone.   She then showed up the next day with the Wreath made of pine cones???? 

If you're helping and not getting in the way, good for you.  3 months and we're still trying to pick up the pieces.
 
2013-02-01 01:36:50 PM

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


You will, but no one will give a shiat. That's the beauty of Burning Man! Look all you want, ask before you touch, and *try* not to stare. That's it!

One of my favorite people from last year was a guy actually in his mid 60's at least who was riding around naked on a bicycle and if you waved to him he would stop and introduce himself with his self given Burner name and give you a leather keychain with the Man on it that he had made. And if you were showing tittays, he had special leather pouches that he adjusted to fit right between the boobies. Yes, of course I have one!

We asked that guy, and several older people when we greeted, "Why are you here?" The answer was usually the same, "Oh, just always wanted to go, knocking it off the bucket list!"

If you feel drawn to it, you'll find yourself a home.
 
2013-02-01 01:37:48 PM

p the boiler: but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


The reason to go to Burning Man is that it's the one place where you can really stop giving a shiat what you "come across" as. You could run around with a prosthetic penis on your forehead and "PERVERT" painted on your chest in glitter, and you would get whistles and thumbs up. If you've just got like, a t-shirt and shorts on, nobody is going to even notice you.
 
2013-02-01 01:37:59 PM
remedyarn.com

I see one full RV and the rest are tents.  I know player hating on Fark is the MO, but are we now hating on volunteers that are rebuilding from Sandy?
So while every community has folks with higher means, Burners tend to be a big hearted bunch once you get past their prickly exterior.
 
2013-02-01 01:39:37 PM

p the boiler: I really want to go out to Burning Man some time - but 3 kids and a job make that difficult to accomplish - when they move out maybe, but then I'll be a guy in his mid-50s standing around a lot of young naked women, I think I might come off as a pervert.


there's a kidsville section. if I remember correctly, there were about 350 people camped in that section about 150 of those were kids.

My friend was doing a news story about BM and stopped by to talk to some people there. This scrawny nerdy middle schooler that she interviewed says to her: the kids at school are always picking on me because i'm different but no one picks on me here because everyone here is different.
 
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