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(Buzzfeed)   How did 30 Rock's series finale stand up to other classic sitcom series finales, like Newhart and Seinfeld?   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 73
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2013-02-01 10:39:18 AM
Most of Tan Penis Island was destroyed in Sting's house fire.
 
2013-02-01 10:43:38 AM
I sure hope it was better than the ending for the Sopr
 
2013-02-01 10:47:44 AM
It just wasn't that funny, and the hour length didn't suit it. The previous episode was better.
 
2013-02-01 10:50:33 AM
It was no After M*A*S*H, that's for sure..
 
2013-02-01 10:50:55 AM
I give it two mehs.
 
2013-02-01 10:52:46 AM
Am I the only one on earth who liked the Seinfeld finale?
 
2013-02-01 11:00:43 AM

fearthebunnyman: Am I the only one on earth who liked the Seinfeld finale?


Me and some other guy have a club.  You can join it too.
 
2013-02-01 11:04:06 AM
"Other classic" implies that 30 Rock is considered classic. It's classically overrated and over-awarded dreck.
 
2013-02-01 11:05:19 AM
I liked it. I thought it did an okay job of wrapping up the show. It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.

I'm not sure how The Office is going to be when it wraps up. I was looking forward to seeing behind the camera and figured it would just be a short gag. I'm not sure I like suddenly bringing in the boom mic guy as a potential affair for Pam. When they tried that for a storyline for Jim last season with the new office girl, the whole subplot felt forced and pointless.
 
2013-02-01 11:07:47 AM
No Blackadder (anfd as it has the Office UK it can't be excused for being US only).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3-Gt7mgyM

For a show that the humour was so ridiculous, the seriousness and feeling of the ending were amazing.
 
2013-02-01 11:09:12 AM
I hardly watched any sitcoms over the course of my life so I don't know. I know it was no Newhart finale. It was no Cheers finale. I don't know if Friends had a proper finale or not. It certainly was no Three's Company finale. It was a little more tasteful than the I Love Lucy finally where Ricky just finally hauled off and beat the shiat out of Lucy. That was distasteful. I may have imagined that.

The Seinfeld finale didn't work because the whole point of the show was that all the characters seemed to get away with farking people over but in the end they ultimately didn't. So actually putting them all on trial for being assholes didn't really work as a plot device. And calling in all the "witnesses" didn't really make any sense. The guy who sold Elaine sponges? Really?

30 Rock started out strong but just got tired, as much as I love Tina Fey. So it's over. Whatever. No huge loss. Cable TV programming that aren't reality shows is awesome, network TV with few exceptions sucks. That's how it is.
 
2013-02-01 11:09:28 AM

AmazinTim: "Other classic" implies that 30 Rock is considered classic. It's classically overrated and over-awarded dreck.


It's probably considered a classic due to it meeting two criteria: It is popular with viewers. It is popular with critics.

Most sitcoms nowadays only meet one of those two criteria. You get shows like Two and a Half Men that have insane viewership numbers, but no critic would consider it quality TV. Then you have critically acclaimed shows like Arrested Development or Better Off Ted that simply can't find a large enough audience. Add in the fact that 30 Rock has stayed on the air for a number of years and it's probably going to be remembered as a classic for a while and end up in heavy rotation in syndication.
 
2013-02-01 11:11:00 AM
 "You should wear more sweaters"
 
2013-02-01 11:11:46 AM

NeoCortex42: I liked it. I thought it did an okay job of wrapping up the show. It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.


I liked, it too, but it wasn't "great."  The lunch order mayhem, the mommyblog trolling, and the scene at LAX were classic, but overall it was more sweet and silly than their best.
 
2013-02-01 11:20:34 AM

NeoCortex42: It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.


I can only imagine what the Blimpie's people thought of a high-profile series finale branding them as 'Lutz's Revenge'.
 
2013-02-01 11:25:17 AM
I thought this whole season was pretty great.
 
2013-02-01 11:42:01 AM

kronicfeld: I thought this whole season was pretty great.


I thought it was forced and rushed honestly. "Oh, I am now going to get married to this boy toy who has no back story. Oh, Coleen was a lesbian. Oh, I am adopting kids now apparently"

It was like they took all the ideas they had meant to do, and shoved them into a haphazard assembly of shows.
 
2013-02-01 11:53:18 AM

NeoCortex42: I liked it. I thought it did an okay job of wrapping up the show. It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.

I'm not sure how The Office is going to be when it wraps up. I was looking forward to seeing behind the camera and figured it would just be a short gag. I'm not sure I like suddenly bringing in the boom mic guy as a potential affair for Pam. When they tried that for a storyline for Jim last season with the new office girl, the whole subplot felt forced and pointless.


Those two words are a pretty accurate summary of the entire run (US version).

As for "Seinfeld",  It wasn't so much a finale as a poorly conceived and written curtain call for all the supporting characters.
 
2013-02-01 11:53:54 AM
I printed out the lunch menu so that we can discuss this while we eat:
Link

I enjoyed the episode, nothing groundbreaking, just a nice send-off.
 
2013-02-01 11:55:00 AM
I liked it, most especially the fact that Munch appears in it, and then it ends with a story-within-story scene, trying to reframe the unified theory of TV started with St. Elsewhere. Clever.
 
2013-02-01 11:57:30 AM

NeoCortex42: AmazinTim: "Other classic" implies that 30 Rock is considered classic. It's classically overrated and over-awarded dreck.

It's probably considered a classic due to it meeting two criteria: It is popular with viewers. It is popular with critics.

Most sitcoms nowadays only meet one of those two criteria. You get shows like Two and a Half Men that have insane viewership numbers, but no critic would consider it quality TV. Then you have critically acclaimed shows like Arrested Development or Better Off Ted that simply can't find a large enough audience. Add in the fact that 30 Rock has stayed on the air for a number of years and it's probably going to be remembered as a classic for a while and end up in heavy rotation in syndication.


Meh, 30 Rock doesn't deserve to be in the pantheon with Newhart, Seinfeld, MASH, Cheers, and endless other classic sitcoms.  It doesn't have the longevity(only 130 eps) nor, really, that much that has that memorable durability that classic sitcoms tend to have.
 
2013-02-01 11:57:51 AM
It was okay.  I will give them points for making Kenneth truly immortal.
 
2013-02-01 12:00:40 PM

thecpt: fearthebunnyman: Am I the only one on earth who liked the Seinfeld finale?

Me and some other guy have a club.  You can join it too.


The Seinfeld finale was one of the most brilliant moments in television.
 
2013-02-01 12:10:04 PM

bhcompy: Meh, 30 Rock doesn't deserve to be in the pantheon with Newhart, Seinfeld, MASH, Cheers, and endless other classic sitcoms.  It doesn't have the longevity(only 130 eps) nor, really, that much that has that memorable durability that classic sitcoms tend to have.




I don't know if you'll ever see classics of the same caliber of those shows ever again. Part of the reason is that there are many more channels now, and most shows that take a risk of any sort are off the air pretty quick.

Back when most of those shows were on, you had a small handful of channels, with the only real competition coming from other networks.
 
2013-02-01 12:10:26 PM
I stopped recording about midway last season, when is it so I can set my DVR?
 
2013-02-01 12:11:51 PM

Teknowaffle: Oh, I am adopting kids now apparently"


Liz was trying to do that all series. It jut sat dormant for a while. Back in Season 2 she stole a baby.
 
2013-02-01 12:13:01 PM

AiryAnne: I stopped recording about midway last season, when is it so I can set my DVR?


You own a computer, we're not your google biatch.
 
2013-02-01 12:15:57 PM

bhcompy: NeoCortex42: AmazinTim: "Other classic" implies that 30 Rock is considered classic. It's classically overrated and over-awarded dreck.

It's probably considered a classic due to it meeting two criteria: It is popular with viewers. It is popular with critics.

Most sitcoms nowadays only meet one of those two criteria. You get shows like Two and a Half Men that have insane viewership numbers, but no critic would consider it quality TV. Then you have critically acclaimed shows like Arrested Development or Better Off Ted that simply can't find a large enough audience. Add in the fact that 30 Rock has stayed on the air for a number of years and it's probably going to be remembered as a classic for a while and end up in heavy rotation in syndication.

Meh, 30 Rock doesn't deserve to be in the pantheon with Newhart, Seinfeld, MASH, Cheers, and endless other classic sitcoms.  It doesn't have the longevity(only 130 eps) nor, really, that much that has that memorable durability that classic sitcoms tend to have.


Not to mention, 30 Rockhad a cult following but you'd never consider it a ratings success story.  Season 3 it made it to #69 overall but 4 of the first 7 seasons it was ranked below #100.  It survived only because NBC has been terrible in the ratings battle so keeping the critical darling in the line-up wasn't so tough.  The ratings sucked, but so did most of the NBC shows.  I too thought last night was just okay.
 
2013-02-01 12:25:51 PM
Newhart should be #1
 
2013-02-01 12:26:39 PM
I like that they even had resolution for minor characters like Dot.com and Grizz. And the whole Pete faking his death thing was perfect-no one was paying attention to him as usual, and of course it blew up in his face.

Also loved Kenneth as an immortal-"immortal" was even one of the things on his list that "no one wants to see on TV."

It was a goofy show that was good for a few solid laughs each week, and I'd say the finale represented that.

Snowicane!
 
2013-02-01 12:37:36 PM
Disappointed they reduced Salma Hayek to a cameo via laptop screen.

/got rid of her accent though...
 
2013-02-01 12:38:31 PM

Bob_Laublaw:  "You should wear more sweaters"


""Tomorrow is Sunday, Delenn. And I am going on a Sunday drive."
 
2013-02-01 12:43:26 PM
"Good night, ladies and gentlemen.  Not many of you watched, but the jokes on you, 'cuz we got paid anyway."
 
2013-02-01 12:47:44 PM
Susan Pleshette got a lot of action back in the 70's (in my mind)
 
2013-02-01 01:25:53 PM

rugman11: "Good night, ladies and gentlemen.  Not many of you watched, but the jokes on you, 'cuz we got paid anyway."


Perfect.
 
2013-02-01 01:32:58 PM
I was hoping that Kenneth would be revealed as a god. Immortal, we already knew.
 
2013-02-01 01:39:42 PM

Jackpot777: I was hoping that Kenneth would be revealed as a god. Immortal, we already knew.


Kinda hoped they're wrap it up ala st.elsewhere, where it ends up it's just kenneth rocking back and forth imagining the whole thing in his snowglobe..
 
2013-02-01 01:39:44 PM

master_of_rayality: Also loved Kenneth as an immortal-"immortal" was even one of the things on his list that "no one wants to see on TV."


I forgot about the list; it was everything about the show in general and that just made so much sense for them.
 
2013-02-01 01:48:09 PM

factoryconnection: NeoCortex42: I liked it. I thought it did an okay job of wrapping up the show. It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.

I liked, it too, but it wasn't "great."  The lunch order mayhem, the mommyblog trolling, and the scene at LAX were classic, but overall it was more sweet and silly than their best.


I agree with this. It was a flat ending for a great show. I didn't understand the recall of the Rural Juror bit. It was amusing when it first happened, but it wasn't something that they should have put so much emphasis on in the final episode, unless it was some sort of inside joke with the cast and crew or something, in which case, fark you, inside jokes don't make good tv.
 
2013-02-01 02:42:31 PM

havocmike: factoryconnection: NeoCortex42: I liked it. I thought it did an okay job of wrapping up the show. It was also nice for Lutz to finally get a win, as well.

I liked, it too, but it wasn't "great."  The lunch order mayhem, the mommyblog trolling, and the scene at LAX were classic, but overall it was more sweet and silly than their best.

I agree with this. It was a flat ending for a great show. I didn't understand the recall of the Rural Juror bit. It was amusing when it first happened, but it wasn't something that they should have put so much emphasis on in the final episode, unless it was some sort of inside joke with the cast and crew or something, in which case, fark you, inside jokes don't make good tv.



I'd agree with all of this.  Pretty good, but not super-stellar.  I liked the trick ending with the snowglobe/immortality/LL's descendent.
 
2013-02-01 02:45:10 PM
Haven't watched it yet. It couldn't be any worse than the Seinfeld finale. I mean, really, WTF were they thinking??? I'm just going to assume the Seinfeld finale and Sour Grapes mark the creative nadir of Larry David and a brief dry spell before he redeemed himself with Curb.
 
2013-02-01 03:27:15 PM

Mugato: The guy who sold Elaine sponges? Really?


Really.
 
2013-02-01 04:16:08 PM

factoryconnection: master_of_rayality: Also loved Kenneth as an immortal-"immortal" was even one of the things on his list that "no one wants to see on TV."

I forgot about the list; it was everything about the show in general and that just made so much sense for them.


The list is good but it's no Dennis pros/cons list

i.huffpost.com
 
2013-02-01 04:26:24 PM

PainInTheASP: It was okay.  I will give them points for making Kenneth truly immortal.


Despite his abhorrence of immortal character.

I enjoyed this in part because they didn't try to over-reach.  30 Rock was always just a good, funny show.  It had a solid, funny ending.  Comparing the emotional resonance with comedies set in wars (MASH and Blackadder) or shows where the love the characters was the main draw (Mary Tyler Moore & Cheers) is disingenuous.

This was always a show about highly creative wacky humor and it went out on a song from the Rrerl Jrer.  As well it should have.

/yes, I know't it's the Rural Juror
//can't wait for Grizz & Hers in the fall
 
2013-02-01 04:28:48 PM
Why was Conan cut and pasted into the elevator? That was weird. I'm going to miss this show but at least Community is back on next Thursday.
 
2013-02-01 04:32:31 PM

katerbug72: Why was Conan cut and pasted into the elevator? That was weird. I'm going to miss this show but at least Community is back on next Thursday.




Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering why they were using a green screen for the elevator. It looked really bad.
 
2013-02-01 04:42:44 PM

tennessee.hillbilly: I sure hope it was better than the ending for the Sopr


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-01 04:48:47 PM

Hebalo: AiryAnne: I stopped recording about midway last season, when is it so I can set my DVR?

You own a computer pornography box, we're not your google biatch.

 
2013-02-01 04:50:53 PM

NeoCortex42: I don't know if you'll ever see classics of the same caliber of those shows ever again. Part of the reason is that there are many more channels now, and most shows that take a risk of any sort are off the air pretty quick.


Hell, Seinfeld barely made it even back then.
 
2013-02-01 04:52:21 PM

NeoCortex42: Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering why they were using a green screen for the elevator. It looked really bad.


I'm thinking that either they shot it while she was a guest on his show or they shot each actor separately and comped them together.
 
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