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(ABC News)   Gay rights activists await their Jackie Robinson. Or rather, Jack Robinson during the day and Robin Jackson at night   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2013-02-01 09:28:28 AM  
There are tons of gay athletes in professional sports they just aren't vocal about it which is their right.
 
2013-02-01 09:43:45 AM  

WTF Indeed: There are tons of gay athletes in professional sports they just aren't vocal about it which is their right.


And I'm sure there were old-timey players with black or Native American people somewhere in their genetic line (even some who were aware of it) - the point is that "social pressure" shouldn't be the reason they keep it a secret.

If an athlete wants to keep it quiet, fine. If they think they "need" to keep it quiet, that's the root of the issue that these activists want to kill.
 
2013-02-01 09:50:04 AM  

Dr Dreidel: If an athlete wants to keep it quiet, fine. If they think they "need" to keep it quiet, that's the root of the issue that these activists want to kill.


It's not the same as Jackie Robinson, not even close.
 
2013-02-01 09:56:10 AM  

WTF Indeed: It's not the same as Jackie Robinson, not even close.


I think they use "Jackie Robinson" to mean "an ambassador for the group". Once Jackie started playing and wasn't "Negroing" all over the field or whatever they were scared of, it went a long way toward "normalizing" multiracial sports, businesses, lives.

Yes, 42 had to endure some pretty heinous shiat, and our mythical Gay Robinson likely would as well, so I can understand why a player might prefer the confines of closet. However, the sooner we "get it out of our system", so to speak, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th...1,609th "out" player won't have it so bad.

// and what happens if, like the influx of Carribean-born players in baseball, the league starts going all bisexual?
// NTTAWWT - I think the league could use more switch hitters
 
2013-02-01 09:57:09 AM  
It takes that much more courage to do it when it is so easy to hide.
 
2013-02-01 10:05:52 AM  

Dr Dreidel: I think they use "Jackie Robinson" to mean "an ambassador for the group". Once Jackie started playing and wasn't "Negroing" all over the field or whatever they were scared of, it went a long way toward "normalizing" multiracial sports, businesses, lives.

Yes, 42 had to endure some pretty heinous shiat, and our mythical Gay Robinson likely would as well, so I can understand why a player might prefer the confines of closet. However, the sooner we "get it out of our system", so to speak, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th...1,609th "out" player won't have it so bad.


True to an extent.  Jackie joined a league where no one of color was allowed in, regardless of their talents.  He also played to crowds that threatened to kill him every town he went too.  An openly gay player today would still be allowed to play, and the crowds would supportive, if anything. The issue is that problem is among the players, not the league or society.
 
2013-02-01 10:09:02 AM  

WTF Indeed: The issue is that problem is among the players, not the league or society.


I should have made that more clear. We agree. (Though I think we also agree that large parts of society may not be so accepting. Royals games, Rays games, and probably a few other stadia would become VERY hostile territory for a season or two.)
 
2013-02-01 10:11:35 AM  
FARK really needs to add a "worst greenlit headline of the year" vote.
 
2013-02-01 10:15:02 AM  
If only John Ameachi had had the basketball skills of an All-Star center....

/Maybe Dikembe "Who wants to sex" Mutombo
 
2013-02-01 10:17:02 AM  

kronicfeld: FARK really needs to add a "worst greenlit headline of the year" vote.


yeah, I honestly couldn't get past the headline.  I mean congrats to subby on a nontroll green, but c'mon.

/at least its not another Te'o joke.
//don't take me seriously, my recent redlights are probably awful
 
2013-02-01 10:25:14 AM  

Dr Dreidel: I should have made that more clear. We agree. (Though I think we also agree that large parts of society may not be so accepting. Royals games, Rays games, and probably a few other stadia would become VERY hostile territory for a season or two.)


Ah okay. No one shows up in Tampa so it's not like they matter.
 
2013-02-01 10:34:21 AM  
As a cross-dressing professional athlete your headline offends me subby. We aren't gay, we just like the way we look in a dress and heels.
 
2013-02-01 10:39:44 AM  
johnny weir frowns upon this thread's shenanigans
 
2013-02-01 10:43:47 AM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: As a cross-dressing professional athlete your headline offends me subby. We aren't gay, we just like the way we look in a dress and heels.


Oscar de la Hoya?
 
2013-02-01 10:52:34 AM  

divgradcurl: johnny weir frowns upon this thread's shenanigans


nice.  He won me over when they showed him bawling with his parents after his first performance in Turin, then came back the next day and kicked everyone's ass.  He wasn't going to medal, but he didn't give a fark.
 
2013-02-01 11:45:58 AM  
There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly
 
2013-02-01 11:49:50 AM  
You know, back in the day, I would have bet the house on Mike Piazza.  I thought he was going to be well ahead of the curve.

One would think you might find the first player come out on a team with a vocal pro-gay marriage stance athlete like the Ravens/Vikings.  Problem that shrinks the sample size is that it would need to be someone with the confidence that they are a permanent starter.
 
2013-02-01 11:51:31 AM  

machoprogrammer: There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly


rumored? Rick Welts, president and CEO of the GS Warriors is openly gay.
 
2013-02-01 12:03:35 PM  
What the gay rights movement needs is a gay athlete, because who'd expect to ever see an out entertainer?
 
2013-02-01 12:07:21 PM  
C'mon, Tom Brady.  Your sport needs you.  Take one for the team.  It's okay.
 
2013-02-01 12:15:04 PM  

TheManofPA: You know, back in the day, I would have bet the house on Mike Piazza.  I thought he was going to be well ahead of the curve.

One would think you might find the first player come out on a team with a vocal pro-gay marriage stance athlete like the Ravens/Vikings.  Problem that shrinks the sample size is that it would need to be someone with the confidence that they are a permanent starter.


I would not be surprised if the first active NFL player to come out (or be outed, for that matter) did so after winning the Super Bowl.  "Helped my team get this far & go the distance, oh, and I'm gay."  Fans don't like it?  Teammates don't like it?  Honey badger don't care, he's got a ring & going to Disneyland.
 
2013-02-01 12:24:36 PM  

Dr Dreidel: WTF Indeed: The issue is that problem is among the players, not the league or society.

I should have made that more clear. We agree. (Though I think we also agree that large parts of society may not be so accepting. Royals games, Rays games, and probably a few other stadia would become VERY hostile territory for a season or two.)


I think there would be a difference between the abuse Robinson took and what our hypohetical gay athlete would endure. If someone at Kaufmann or any other stadium were to get particularly nasty, the stadium security would yank the person and the team and MLB would trip over themselves rushing to the PR podium to say they don't condone such behavior. When Robinson first integrated the bigs, many owners and large sections of the press and public (particularly in the South and other rural areas) were still against the idea. Today we thankfully have set the standard that such behavior is not acceptable.
 
2013-02-01 12:40:35 PM  

WTF Indeed: Dr Dreidel: I should have made that more clear. We agree. (Though I think we also agree that large parts of society may not be so accepting. Royals games, Rays games, and probably a few other stadia would become VERY hostile territory for a season or two.)

Ah okay. No one shows up in Tampa so it's not like they matter.


It would be strange if people showed up in Tampa for a Rays baseball game considering the only team there is the Yankees during spring training.

/also my understanding is that Tampa/St. Pete is extremely gay friendly
 
2013-02-01 12:51:58 PM  

jackiepaper: machoprogrammer: There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly

rumored? Rick Welts, president and CEO of the GS Warriors is openly gay.


Well that, too. I was thinking of some others.
 
2013-02-01 12:55:01 PM  

machoprogrammer: jackiepaper: machoprogrammer: There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly

rumored? Rick Welts, president and CEO of the GS Warriors is openly gay.

Well that, too. I was thinking of some others.


who else?
 
2013-02-01 12:57:42 PM  

jackiepaper: machoprogrammer: jackiepaper: machoprogrammer: There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly

rumored? Rick Welts, president and CEO of the GS Warriors is openly gay.

Well that, too. I was thinking of some others.

who else?


Well, rumors around Green Bay are that Ted Thompson is a life-long bachelor for a reason.
 
2013-02-01 01:21:33 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Today we thankfully have set the standard that such behavior is not acceptable.


Ask Dan Cathy and his legions of chicken-fark/eaters how "acceptable" it is. No, I'm not claiming it's everywhere, just that there are enough people who would condone it that we'd probably get dueling pressers - Bud and the Gang saying how awesome it is that everyone gets along, and Jesus McDerpspewer crying about the loss of his freedom of religion.

Thankfully, society at large would agree with Selig (how weird is THAT?), but in many places, yeah it is acceptable.
 
2013-02-01 01:54:50 PM  
Yes, his 10 second, barely intelligible "No, man, I don't mess with gays, not in lockerroom man knowhatImsayin"
is irrefutable proof of the still rampant homophobia and denial of homosexual rights across America.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
 
2013-02-01 02:26:49 PM  

doubled99: Yes, his 10 second, barely intelligible "No, man, I don't mess with gays, not in lockerroom man knowhatImsayin"
is irrefutable proof of the still rampant homophobia and denial of homosexual rights across America.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!


You're talking about Chris Culliver, I'm assuming. The fact that he felt comfortable enough to say what he said is one thing, though really the proof of the rampant homophobia is the lack of any identifiable gay athletes playing right now in the major American professional sports leagues.

Also, the fact that a sizable number of people in a high-visibility profession feel compelled to conceal a fundamental part of their identities is actually kind of outrage, the stupid mockery of imbeciles notwithstanding.
 
2013-02-01 02:42:33 PM  
Unless someone with the star power of LeBron comes out as gay, it'll still take more than a decade for people to get over it.

What about Kevin Durant?  Dresses as well as any fashionable gay person does.  Wispy limbs, soft talker.  Played at Texas and he ain't no steer.
 
2013-02-01 03:27:36 PM  

Boba Fettucini: WTF Indeed: Dr Dreidel: I should have made that more clear. We agree. (Though I think we also agree that large parts of society may not be so accepting. Royals games, Rays games, and probably a few other stadia would become VERY hostile territory for a season or two.)

Ah okay. No one shows up in Tampa so it's not like they matter.

It would be strange if people showed up in Tampa for a Rays baseball game considering the only team there is the Yankees during spring training.

/also my understanding is that Tampa/St. Pete is extremely gay friendly


Also, the Rays made an "It Gets Better" video, and, if you're talking the broader Tampa Bay sports market, Lightning players have appeared in PSAs for the You Can Play Project. I don't know where Dr. Dreidel is getting the idea that the Tampa Bay market would be hostile to out athletes.
 
2013-02-01 03:33:12 PM  

rynthetyn: Also, the Rays made an "It Gets Better" video, and, if you're talking the broader Tampa Bay sports market, Lightning players have appeared in PSAs for the You Can Play Project. I don't know where Dr. Dreidel is getting the idea that the Tampa Bay market would be hostile to out athletes.


1) Members of the 49ers also appeared in an "It Gets Better" video.
2) I was using my sparse knowledge of FL in assuming that Tampa, in the northern, usually-more-derpy part of FL, was similarly derpy. Apparently, I stand corrected. Also lighten up, Frank.

// cue the Royals fan telling me how awesome KCMO is to gay folk
 
2013-02-01 03:38:33 PM  

Dr Dreidel: rynthetyn: Also, the Rays made an "It Gets Better" video, and, if you're talking the broader Tampa Bay sports market, Lightning players have appeared in PSAs for the You Can Play Project. I don't know where Dr. Dreidel is getting the idea that the Tampa Bay market would be hostile to out athletes.

1) Members of the 49ers also appeared in an "It Gets Better" video.
2) I was using my sparse knowledge of FL in assuming that Tampa, in the northern, usually-more-derpy part of FL, was similarly derpy. Apparently, I stand corrected. Also lighten up, Frank.

// cue the Royals fan telling me how awesome KCMO is to gay folk


Tampa is not northern Florida, geeze, if you don't know basic things about Fark's favorite state you shouldn't even bother commenting. And unlike the idiots on the 49ers, no Rays players are running around saying that they didn't know what kind of video they were making.
 
2013-02-01 04:12:30 PM  

rynthetyn: Tampa is not northern Florida, geeze,


Upon further review, I was thinking, for some reason, of Tallahassee. So I stand further corrected.
 
2013-02-01 06:00:38 PM  
Durant may be gay for all I know, but the reason he dresses fashionably is the same reason most NBA players dress like the world's largest college hipsters: as a complicated reaction to Stern's draconian post-Iverson dress code.
 
2013-02-02 03:31:30 AM  

Lost Thought 00: It takes that much more courage to do it when it is so easy to hide.

 
2013-02-02 03:35:50 AM  

WTF Indeed: Dr Dreidel: I think they use "Jackie Robinson" to mean "an ambassador for the group". Once Jackie started playing and wasn't "Negroing" all over the field or whatever they were scared of, it went a long way toward "normalizing" multiracial sports, businesses, lives.

Yes, 42 had to endure some pretty heinous shiat, and our mythical Gay Robinson likely would as well, so I can understand why a player might prefer the confines of closet. However, the sooner we "get it out of our system", so to speak, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th...1,609th "out" player won't have it so bad.

True to an extent.  Jackie joined a league where no one of color was allowed in, regardless of their talents.  He also played to crowds that threatened to kill him every town he went too.  An openly gay player today would still be allowed to play, and the crowds would supportive, if anything. The issue is that problem is among the players, not the league or society.


That's not true at all. That's like saying all non-whites were barred from serving in the armed forces with whites before Truman desegregated.   The color line was about black and white. Where brown, yellow and red (and dirty white)(and white jews) may or may not have been allowed to play with or serve with whites........ blacks were most definitely NOT allowed to play with or serve with whites.

So browns and reds (and dirty white)(and white jews) played baseball with whites, and negroes played in their own league.  Just like browns and reds could serve next to whites in the military, while negroes had their own troops.
 
2013-02-02 03:38:54 AM  

The Flexecutioner: C'mon, Tom Brady.  Your sport needs you.  Take one for the team.  It's okay.


I don't think Tom Brady is gay, he just looks like a douche.

Now Troy Aikman, I've been waiting for decades for that fool to come on out of the closet.

/I also thought Terrell Owens was gay, but in confusion and internal pain
//may be wrong on that one, but Troy is definitely a homo
 
2013-02-02 03:41:34 AM  

machoprogrammer: jackiepaper: machoprogrammer: There's a lot of pro athletes that are rumored to be gay. And managers/GMs. I think once one person would come out, a lot more would follow quickly

rumored? Rick Welts, president and CEO of the GS Warriors is openly gay.

Well that, too. I was thinking of some others.


Rick Welts is not a player, has never been a professional player, and is not the public face of the Golden State Warriors.

As for more coming out.......................................... maybe, maybe not.  (See also: where are all the bisexuals after Dennis Rodman?)
 
2013-02-03 05:36:28 AM  
Black, gay, Chinese, whatever. I don't care. If they could get me to a championship, I'd put Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin in my starting lineup.
 
2013-02-03 09:59:19 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Black, gay, Chinese, whatever. I don't care. If they could get me to a championship, I'd put Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin in my starting lineup.


You'd get killed on jersey sales.
 
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