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(Popular Science)   Architect who designed Spaceport America, 2 World Trade Center, and Apple's new "flying saucer" campus has taken up new project: a 3-D printed moonbase   (popsci.com) divider line 35
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2013-02-01 09:09:06 AM
Newt Gingrich just got a boner.
 
2013-02-01 09:23:59 AM
Does it come with blackjack and hookers?
 
2013-02-01 09:42:53 AM
I wonder if you could do the same thing with sand in a desert.
 
2013-02-01 09:54:33 AM
Still waiting on my 3-D printed girlfriend.
 
2013-02-01 10:01:46 AM

UberDave: Does it come with blackjack and hookers?


You know what? Forget the blackjack.
 
2013-02-01 10:14:54 AM

Gunther: I wonder if you could do the same thing with sand in a desert.


Already being done...

www.rapidreadytech.com

Powered by compressed air and electricity, you pour sand in the top, resin in another hopper, download you object's CAD file, and press "Start".

Scale it up and build mooonbases.

static1.sw-cdn.net
 
2013-02-01 10:41:17 AM

UberDave: Does it come with blackjack and hookers?


Whalers, don't forget the whalers.
 
2013-02-01 10:55:35 AM
It is like this thread was made specifically to annoy our least favorite space denier.
 
2013-02-01 10:57:41 AM
The moonbase provides a comfortable shirt-sleeve, bell-bottom environment.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-01 11:00:57 AM

Stone Meadow: Gunther: I wonder if you could do the same thing with sand in a desert.

Already being done...

[www.rapidreadytech.com image 500x298]

Powered by compressed air and electricity, you pour sand in the top, resin in another hopper, download you object's CAD file, and press "Start".

Scale it up and build mooonbases.

[static1.sw-cdn.net image 600x600]


What would need to be done to make these things airtight and capable of being life supporting on the Moon?  They say they don't have to bring up rebar, but I suspect they need to bring up some sort of compound, right?
 
2013-02-01 11:07:45 AM
Whalers?  Check!

Martin Landeau?  Check!


I think we're done here, unless somebody wnats to add a pic of TMA-1
 
2013-02-01 11:40:53 AM

Dissociater: Stone Meadow: Gunther: I wonder if you could do the same thing with sand in a desert.

Already being done...

[www.rapidreadytech.com image 500x298]

Powered by compressed air and electricity, you pour sand in the top, resin in another hopper, download you object's CAD file, and press "Start".

Scale it up and build mooonbases.

[static1.sw-cdn.net image 600x600]

What would need to be done to make these things airtight and capable of being life supporting on the Moon?  They say they don't have to bring up rebar, but I suspect they need to bring up some sort of compound, right?


Everything we need is there as raw materials. The problem would be to get everything needed together and process it for use. Engineering problem, not an "I woner if we could aqctually do this?" problem.
 
2013-02-01 11:43:37 AM

RedVentrue: "I woner if we could aqctually do this?"


WTH?
 
2013-02-01 12:13:11 PM

RedVentrue: RedVentrue: "I woner if we could aqctually do this?"

WTH?


It is a good question... I mean, seriously, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even ... really decided as to even go that far in wanting to do to look more like some moon base?
 
2013-02-01 12:32:30 PM

RedVentrue: Dissociater: What would need to be done to make these things airtight and capable of being life supporting on the Moon?  They say they don't have to bring up rebar, but I suspect they need to bring up some sort of compound, right?

Everything we need is there as raw materials. The problem would be to get everything needed together and process it for use. Engineering problem, not an "I woner if we could aqctually do this?" problem.


Everything is there to make the primary structure with a 3d printer of the appropriate scale. We'll have to send up the printer with an integrated crawler/scraper/regolith grinder (to make the 'sand'), as well as airlock frames, hardware and the binding resin. We'd also need to send sealing resin which can be sprayed onto the interior and exterior surfaces to seal the primary structure, and a Bobcat-like tool to scrape up regolith and pile it over the habitats for radiation protection. Gravity is so low you wouldn't need 'rebar'.
 
2013-02-01 12:56:10 PM
Oh god, it combined 3d printing and space.

BRACING POSITIONS.
 
2013-02-01 01:15:21 PM

Shadow Blasko: RedVentrue: RedVentrue: "I woner if we could aqctually do this?"

WTH?

It is a good question... I mean, seriously, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even ... really decided as to even go that far in wanting to do to look more like some moon base?


All I'm getting is a parsing error. Doesn't help that I'm dyslexic.
 
2013-02-01 01:18:21 PM
In other news; QuantumApostrophe has apparently died or something.
 
2013-02-01 01:41:49 PM
QA is busy riding his fixie thru red lights while demanding life extension.
 
2013-02-01 01:50:39 PM

SewerSquirrels: In other news; QuantumApostrophe has apparently died or something.


This.

RedVentrue: Engineering problem


And that.

The idea is sound, but making a 3d printer that works without (or with very limited) human interaction in a space environment... that could take quite a bit of doing.

On the plus side, the cost of space travel and colonization is greatly blunted if you can move into a ready living environment when you get to your destination.
If colonists can print as much living space as they need then you are a big step closer to self sufficiency.
 
2013-02-01 03:15:44 PM
You idiots!  No one can fit in there.  This isnt a moonbase for ants!  It needs to be, at least, twice as big.

michaelnorthrop.net
 
2013-02-01 03:26:08 PM

way south: The idea is sound, but making a 3d printer that works without (or with very limited) human interaction in a space environment... that could take quite a bit of doing.


No, I have multi-axis CNC equipment in my shop and you'd be amazed at how rugged and autonomous it is. Adapting it to work on the moon's surface would be a straight forward engineering exercise in (mainly) thermal control. In orbit around the moon? Sure, that's a greater challenge, but don't forget, NASA already has exterior 'bots crawling around the outside of the ISS doing minor repairs and servicing. Extending that to 3d printing strikes me as also fairly straight forward, though to be sure more complex than on the surface.
 
2013-02-01 03:29:33 PM
Christ, this is like a glove slap in the face to you-know-who.  Where the hell is he?
 
2013-02-01 06:25:21 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
Why is that man touching and staring and commander koennigs arse?

The russian girl and the one that could change shape were hotter by miles.
 
2013-02-01 06:29:21 PM

Farker Soze: Christ, this is like a glove slap in the face to you-know-who.  Where the hell is he?


Too many threads where everything he said was shown to be utter tosh. By everyone.

I have him tagged as `dismissive earth bound twat` using very dark grey so I have to highlight his posts to read them.

His chosen cause is not progressing and would destroy an already overpopulated planet and 3D printing is being used already in so many places (not to mention asteroid mining being touted) I think he may have seen the (3D printed) light and made a different account.
 
2013-02-01 06:32:17 PM
Does anyone else other than me wish it was this design from Daniel Libeskind that won was actually used and not dumbed down in a such a way that it makes the new "freedom tower" seem boring and looks to me like "just another office building"?

news.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-02-01 06:52:03 PM

Farker Soze: Christ, this is like a glove slap in the face to you-know-who.  Where the hell is he?


He's having an apostrophe. He'll be back in a few moments, or days, or decades, depending on the uncertainty level.
 
2013-02-01 07:28:54 PM
2 WTC is my favorite of the four. Too bad it will be the last to be built.
 
2013-02-01 08:15:32 PM
No need to do any thing fancy to build a moon base. Tunnels will do the job well, especially for human, plant and animal shelters that need to be protected from radiation and meterite impacts. The only bits that need to be above the surface are communications, observation decks, and landing runways or bays. Sunlight can be piped and filtered below ground to grow crops, heat water, smelt metal, etc.

If you want domes, they could easly be created by spraying rock over a balloon or light scaffolding base. You could build them of concrete or use blocks shaped like the ice blocks used to build igloos. The Moon's low gravity would make all of these techniques easier than on Earth.

The 3-d printer would come in handy for detail work such as door and window frames, or for creating columns and other architectural detail, and it would be a good way to build sensors and other useful gadgets right into walls (they could warn of collapse and stress, as well as leaks and other threats).

Space stations could be built using the same techniques. In fact, I've read some science fiction stories where space stations were built using moon rock slung from the moon by a gravity gun or from asteroids and other debris. With almost zero gravity, the molds and scaffolding don't have to be very strong. You could build a giant cylindrical base by moving a ring of light panels along, or make the classical ring-shaped station by moving the same sort of mold in a circle. You could even make the panels that serve to build the mold out of space dust and crushed rock.

The less payload you need to build a space station, the cheaper it would be to build large. Cheap transportation and communications could be provided by a station orbiting the Moon or possibly a station in the sweet spots between Earth and Moon where their gravity balance out ( Lagrange points, as they say in the space travel business).

The Moon is nothing but a gigantic pile of construction material. Once you have enough machine tools, you can start using local resources to make metal and synthetic stone articles cheaply on-site, including more machine tools.
 
2013-02-01 08:36:54 PM
I wonder what they would do for energy, drill for oil, or just build wind turbines?
 
2013-02-01 09:27:30 PM

brantgoose: No need to do any thing fancy to build a moon base. Tunnels will do the job well


Tunnels will do a fantastic job of providing shelter, especially on geologically dead worlds, but the problem will be in digging the tunnel safely.
Which is to say you need a good survey of the subsoil you'll be digging through lest you trip over some unstable ground, or buried water.  What might be an otherwise good find could scuttle a project if it starts leaking through and weakening the soil.
Its easier to assemble a pile of bricks on top of the ground than to dig a structure below it.
 
2013-02-01 11:07:24 PM

way south: ...but the problem will be in digging the tunnel safely.


Not necessarily.
 
2013-02-02 10:15:09 AM

MrSplifferton: I wonder what they would do for energy, drill for oil, or just build wind turbines?


Tidal power.  Tides are driven by the moon, so just imagine how strong they'd be on the moon.
 
2013-02-02 01:03:02 PM

Shadow Blasko: RedVentrue: RedVentrue: "I woner if we could aqctually do this?"

WTH?

It is a good question... I mean, seriously, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even ... really decided as to even go that far in wanting to do to look more like some moon base?




I have no idea what you were remotely trying to say here
 
2013-02-02 02:28:37 PM
Lava tubes have the advantage of being mostly finished, but you can't pick your locations or what size and kind of "rooms" you get, and you don't have a choice on wall thickness or depth.. Finding lava tubes close to south polar ice is pretty rare, I'd suspect. And the Selenian South Pole is where we want to go next.  I expect the practical approach is that oct the colony spot is found, send a lunar doze(rs) to dig out a trench, into which you put your inflatable shelter, then cover that over with the regolith you dug out. More or less the way they build subway tunnels. This too has the advantage that telerobotic earth-controlled bots would still have a line of sight for radio and laser coms during the build, whereas with lava tubes, you have to relay the coms to the surface first.
 
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