Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Fox 31 Denver)   Conservatives: No one says the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. High School Club: We do- we even recite it in different languages- last week we recited it in Arabic. Conservatives: OMG THIS IS AN OUTRAGE   (kdvr.com ) divider line
    More: Ironic, Pledge of Allegiance, Arabic, High school club, Ibrahim Hooper, Allah  
•       •       •

3529 clicks; posted to Politics » on 01 Feb 2013 at 8:13 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



273 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-02-01 02:39:12 AM  
My wife is a teacher at a public school in Washington State. Every morning, the kids stand up and recite the Pledge of Allegiance along with the teachers and staff.
 
2013-02-01 02:44:05 AM  
Fidem meam obligo
Vexillo civitatium Americae
Foederatarum et rei publicae
Pro qua stat.
Uni nationi, Deo ducente,
Non dividendae
Cum libertate
Iustitiaque omnibus


Obviously a Papist plot.
 
2013-02-01 02:58:58 AM  
"No matter what language it's said in, pledging your allegiance to the United States is the same in every language," student Skyler Bowden

A kid smarter than the adults.
 
2013-02-01 03:24:22 AM  
The school recites the Pledge of Allegiance once a week

ZOMG ONLY ONCE A WEEK!!?!?!? Don't they know you have to say it every day or it wears off?!?


students from a cultural club

They don't really want to hurt you.
 
2013-02-01 05:12:18 AM  
German, too?
 
2013-02-01 05:13:42 AM  
 
2013-02-01 05:19:30 AM  
One more time. Ahem:

German, too?

thedabbler.co.uk
 
2013-02-01 07:22:16 AM  
The pledge creeps me out.  Honestly, you are pledging to a flag, not to the ideals the flag represents. Okay you are pledging also to the republic, but still.
 
2013-02-01 07:34:05 AM  
I like that they couldn't get anyone to criticize this on the record and, quite literally, had to dig up comments from comment board nutjobs to show the other side of this story.
 
2013-02-01 08:05:19 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: German, too?


Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer
 
2013-02-01 08:09:41 AM  

EvilEgg: Honestly, you are pledging to a flag,


Read it again.
 
2013-02-01 08:14:48 AM  
Good Lord. Could everybody please just get a grip?
 
2013-02-01 08:18:11 AM  
Why is this framed as 'conservatives' instead of 'parents'?

FTFA: "he has received a number of telephone calls and emails from outraged parents, "

Saying conservatives makes it sound like political people outside of the school have heard about the club and are outraged.  Since it's parents who are calling up the principle and giving him a tongue lashing for allowing this (and this is the second year in a row parents have done the tongue-lashing), this is actually an internal thing at this point.
 
2013-02-01 08:20:37 AM  

jake_lex: I like that they couldn't get anyone to criticize this on the record and, quite literally, had to dig up comments from comment board nutjobs to show the other side of this story.


The Manti T'eo story already taught us about 'journalists' in the millenium era.  I figure it's less about them not being able to get someone on the record, and more about it's easier (and cheaper!) to cull comments from a message board than to actually go out and meet people.

There is no indication within the article, and there is no sentence specifically stating, that no person wanted to speak on the record with the reporter.
 
2013-02-01 08:21:25 AM  

ginandbacon: Good Lord. Could everybody please just get a grip?


No. Can't be having that.

Not now.

Not ever.
 
2013-02-01 08:23:48 AM  
Frank Herbert wrote an interesting book about what happens if you make religion part of government...
 
2013-02-01 08:23:50 AM  
This idiotic lie about the pledge has been a big thing on Facebook among my dumber family members lately. My wife, who says the pledge every day in the district office, has a hard time biting her tongue when they post their latest copy-n-paste derp about it.

I'm pretty sure if conservatives stopped lying at a certain minimum rate they'd blow up.

I saw a movie like that about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode. I think it was called, "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-01 08:27:16 AM  
Everything is an outrage!
 
2013-02-01 08:27:36 AM  

EvilEgg: The pledge creeps me out.  Honestly, you are pledging to a flag, not to the ideals the flag represents. Okay you are pledging also to the republic, but still.


" .. and to the republic for which it stands..."

Yes, you are pledging to the republic, but it's not an after-thought.  You're pledging to the republic and pledging to uphold the principles the republic is supposed to represent and support:
- one nation (very important after that civil war shiat, and probably also a needle prick towards the rezes)
- indivisible (e pluribus unum, no more civil war shiat)
- with liberty and justice for all (the ideals to strive for, even when the republic itself acts in ways which could care less about those very things)

and then there's the god part.

but anyway, the flag is the proxy standing in for all that stuff.  The flag never changes, except when another member is added to the one nation indivisible.  But it doesn't matter what mortal figurehead is leading the nation, what matters are the eternal ideals which are supposed to last beyond any living person.

and it's just less awkward than pledging to the Constitution, which is the real object of the pledge, right?   flag is proxy.
 
2013-02-01 08:29:38 AM  
FTFA: "This is no longer about language," wrote one reader in a letter to the local newspaper. "This is about targeting a group you know will object, intentionally stirring them up under the guise of your opinions on multiculturalism and subjecting your school and community to a divisive issue for absolutely no gain."

Yeah, so it's the students' fault that bigots are getting rowdy, and not the fault of the bigots. Right.
 
2013-02-01 08:31:06 AM  
I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.

Kids recite the pledge every morning.

What shocks me is how many folks who grew up reciting this pledge, and have forgotten what they've sworn...
 
2013-02-01 08:31:09 AM  
REPEAT
 
2013-02-01 08:33:23 AM  
I pledge allegiance to the people who are free.

/Are we?
 
2013-02-01 08:33:26 AM  
"he has received a number of telephone calls and emails from outraged parents, "

Outraged over what? The Arabic part, or the pledge part?

As you can see from comments here, there was probably more outrage from the "liberal" folks when they found out that the school recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
 
2013-02-01 08:36:19 AM  

vpb: Everything is an outrage!


I'm outraged by this statement!
 
2013-02-01 08:39:36 AM  
This is about targeting a group you know will object, intentionally stirring them up under the guise of your opinions on multiculturalism

First they came for the xenophobic racists, and I said nothing...

Tom Lopez, the principal at Rocky Mountain High School

Obviously one of those Muslims himself.
 
2013-02-01 08:40:10 AM  
hubiestubert: What shocks me is how many folks who grew up reciting this pledge, and have forgotten what they've sworn...

What shocks me is that people think kids should swear..
 
2013-02-01 08:40:42 AM  
When you pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, you are joining in the socialist plot to sodomize the Constitution and turn us all into serfs of the federal government.

True story.
 
2013-02-01 08:41:00 AM  

Cythraul: vpb: Everything is an outrage!

I'm outraged by this statement!


I'm outraged by your outrage!
 
2013-02-01 08:41:32 AM  
I found the clip of lyric I was thinking of...

The dogs are chasing chicken bones across the lawn
If that was an election, I'm a viet cong
So I pledge allegiance against the flag
And the flaw for which it stands
Pledge allegiance to the land

/Another Age
 
2013-02-01 08:42:33 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-01 08:45:18 AM  
"How on earth is it un-American to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in another language?" Hooper asked. "It doesn't make sense unless the people complaining are anti-Muslim or anti-middle eastern bigots."

Ding, Ding, Ding!!

"As a veteran and a friend of a man killed defending these children in their little games they like to play with our pledge, I'm offended," Chris Wells wrote in the comment section on Coloradoan.com. "There are things that we don't mess with - among them are the pledge and our anthem."

You mean the pledge that we "messed with" in 1954 when the words "under God" were added to the original?
 
2013-02-01 08:46:04 AM  

Circusdog320: My wife is a teacher at a public school in Washington State. Every morning, the kids stand up and recite the Pledge of Allegiance along with the teachers and staff.


Creepy.
 
2013-02-01 08:46:08 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: " .. and to the republic for which it stands..."

Yes, you are pledging to the republic, but it's not an after-thought. You're pledging to the republic and pledging to uphold the principles the republic is supposed to represent and support:
- one nation (very important after that civil war shiat, and probably also a needle prick towards the rezes)
- indivisible (e pluribus unum, no more civil war shiat)
- with liberty and justice for all (the ideals to strive for, even when the republic itself acts in ways which could care less about those very things)

and then there's the god part.

but anyway, the flag is the proxy standing in for all that stuff. The flag never changes, except when another member is added to the one nation indivisible. But it doesn't matter what mortal figurehead is leading the nation, what matters are the eternal ideals which are supposed to last beyond any living person.

and it's just less awkward than pledging to the Constitution, which is the real object of the pledge, right? flag is proxy.


Depends if you're using version 1.0 or 2.0.
 
2013-02-01 08:46:35 AM  
In NJ they recite the pledge every morning in school.

The only states that do not have the laws to recite the pledge are Vermont, Oklahoma, Iowa, Wyoming and Hawaii.

However that doesn't mean that they do not say the pledge, I have a lot ex-in-laws in Hawaii and the schools that their kids went to all recited the pledge every morning. Though the Hawaiian only schools might not, which makes sense - I doubt Native American schools recite the pledge either.

I also find it hard to believe that they do not recite the pledge in the very red Wyoming and Oklahoma. Iowa also seems too "heartland" to shun the pledge, and there's no telling with Vermont.
 
2013-02-01 08:46:59 AM  
Jesus recites it in Aramaic.
 
2013-02-01 08:47:20 AM  
Repeat.
 
2013-02-01 08:48:21 AM  
Maybe if y'all hadn't changed it to a theocratic oath, people would still respect and say it.
 
2013-02-01 08:49:15 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Yes, you are pledging to the republic, but it's not an after-thought.  You're pledging to the republic and pledging to uphold the principles the republic is supposed to represent and support:
- one nation (very important after that civil war shiat, and probably also a needle prick towards the rezes)
- indivisible (e pluribus unum, no more civil war shiat)
- with liberty and justice for all (the ideals to strive for, even when the republic itself acts in ways which could care less about those very things)


Wait, I'm confused. I thought we were pledging to 4 things - one nation, indivisible, liberty, and that al pacino movie.
 
2013-02-01 08:50:34 AM  
I was gonna do all kinds of America-hating stuff today, but then I accidentally read the pledge to myself in this thread and now I can't.
 
2013-02-01 08:51:03 AM  
Just agree to recite the ORIGINAL pledge.....the one without the God part added in
 
2013-02-01 08:53:29 AM  

beerrun: "As a veteran and a friend of a man killed defending these children in their little games they like to play with our pledge, I'm offended," Chris Wells wrote in the comment section on Coloradoan.com. "There are things that we don't mess with - among them are the pledge and our anthem."

You mean the pledge that we "messed with" in 1954 when the words "under God" were added to the original?


He seems to be annoyed that they're using their 1st Amendment rights and likens those rights to a "little game".

I also like that he imagines he defended these kids in some manner when he served.
 
2013-02-01 08:53:53 AM  
I'm totally gonna pledge my allegiance to North Korea and Iran... in English. That will show those pricks.
 
2013-02-01 08:53:55 AM  

hubiestubert: I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.

Kids recite the pledge every morning.

What shocks me is how many folks who grew up reciting this pledge, and have forgotten what they've sworn...


So what you are saying is that kids who are coerced/indoctrinated into swearing an oath to a country that prevents minors from signing contracts should be held to to the oath they sworn.  Or do you mean the 5 years olds in Ms. Smiths class have made a fully informed decision about a pledge they have made and that children should be able to enter binding contracts?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-01 08:55:44 AM  

olderbudnoweiser: Jesus recites wrote it in Aramaic.



FTFY
 
2013-02-01 08:57:05 AM  

Glenford: [i.imgur.com image 504x145]


I'm surprised it's that low actually.
 
2013-02-01 08:58:53 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: beerrun: "As a veteran and a friend of a man killed defending these children in their little games they like to play with our pledge, I'm offended," Chris Wells wrote in the comment section on Coloradoan.com. "There are things that we don't mess with - among them are the pledge and our anthem."

You mean the pledge that we "messed with" in 1954 when the words "under God" were added to the original?

He seems to be annoyed that they're using their 1st Amendment rights and likens those rights to a "little game".

I also like that he imagines he defended these kids in some manner when he served.


Charlie was going to dig tunnels under the Pacific Ocean, invade American, infiltrate its legislature over 10-20 election cycles, and pass a binding resolution to modify the Pledge of Allegiance. It says it right here in this history book I bought in Texas. AND HIS FRIEND STOPPED THAT.
 
2013-02-01 09:00:30 AM  

spelletrader: In NJ they recite the pledge every morning in school.

The only states that do not have the laws to recite the pledge are Vermont, Oklahoma, Iowa, Wyoming and Hawaii.

However that doesn't mean that they do not say the pledge, I have a lot ex-in-laws in Hawaii and the schools that their kids went to all recited the pledge every morning. Though the Hawaiian only schools might not, which makes sense - I doubt Native American schools recite the pledge either.

I also find it hard to believe that they do not recite the pledge in the very red Wyoming and Oklahoma. Iowa also seems too "heartland" to shun the pledge, and there's no telling with Vermont.

There are a lot of Native Americans in Oklahoma, coincidentally there are also a lot of casinos.

 
2013-02-01 09:00:58 AM  

Glenford: [i.imgur.com image 504x145]


"Conservative outrage" generates over 11 million.
 
2013-02-01 09:01:17 AM  
Someone inform the outraged conservatives the pledge was written by a minister who was also a socialist.
 
Displayed 50 of 273 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report