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(WTOP)   The DC area is bracing for a winter storm of gargantuan proportions that is expected to bring the morning commute to its knees and turn the entire region into an icy hell of snarled traffic and human misery. Total accumulation? Eh, about an inch   (wtop.com) divider line 111
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2013-02-01 08:08:46 AM  
Not even an inch.  It is a dusting on grassy areas and no accumulation on paved surfaces.  And now the clouds have moved away and the skies are clear.
 
2013-02-01 08:09:50 AM  
Northerners can't believe it when we Southerners flip out every time a centimeter of snow hits the ground, and Southerners get sick of national headlines being made every time some Northern city hits 95 degrees for two days.
Circle of life.
 
2013-02-01 08:10:15 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Zarquon's Flat Tire: MysteryMachine: I'm a Buffalo, NY native, transplanted to DC.  People here go insane about absolutely trivial accumulations on a regular basis.  Part of the problem is the complete lack of infrastructure (plows, salt piles, etc).  Whenever a "snowpocalypse" or "snowmaggedon" or whatever hits they end up importing equipment and manpower from Baltimore.  Still, that doesn't mean you have to drive like a moron, DC drivers need to get their shiat together.

I live in Georgia, and have no idea how to drive in snow. But we only get to practice one or two days every three years or so.

People who live in DC don't know how to drive on dry pavement, let alone on ice and snow.


Oh so this!

Still:  the drive into work this morning was amazingly drama and idiot free, but that is most likely because
most of the dramatic idiots probably decided to stay home.

/Originally from NJ; we may not be Minnesota, but we know how to drive in bloody snow.
 
2013-02-01 08:10:38 AM  
I'm in Kansas City. On Monday it was 75 degrees. On Wednesday it snowed an inch. Don't like Kansas weather? Wait 15 minutes.
 
2013-02-01 08:16:15 AM  

MysteryMachine: Zarquon's Flat Tire: MysteryMachine: I'm a Buffalo, NY native, transplanted to DC.  People here go insane about absolutely trivial accumulations on a regular basis.  Part of the problem is the complete lack of infrastructure (plows, salt piles, etc).  Whenever a "snowpocalypse" or "snowmaggedon" or whatever hits they end up importing equipment and manpower from Baltimore.  Still, that doesn't mean you have to drive like a moron, DC drivers need to get their shiat together.

I live in Georgia, and have no idea how to drive in snow. But we only get to practice one or two days every three years or so.

Slow, careful, add another 1-2 car lengths between you and the next guy (depending on speed), don't make sharp turns, if you start to fishtail don't try to slam on the brakes or yank the wheel, just take your foot off the accelerator and keep the wheel steady.  Start your stops way earlier than usual, to give yourself additional time and to give sufficient warning to the people behind you.  It's very easy to sail past the turn you wanted to make because you didn't start the braking process in time, don't underestimate it.


Yeah I've driven in snow twice or so. It was crazy when the lady in front of me suddenly turned sideways and slid into a sign. We were both going maybe 17 mph and I never saw her brakes flash.
 
2013-02-01 08:19:39 AM  
DAMN YOU SNOWBAMA
 
2013-02-01 08:21:16 AM  

TrojanRabbit: Northerners can't believe it when we Southerners flip out every time a centimeter of snow hits the ground, and Southerners get sick of national headlines being made every time some Northern city hits 95 degrees for two days.
Circle of life.


Well, you just eviscerated 40% of the yearly weather related newscast.  Bravo!
 
2013-02-01 08:27:10 AM  
Michigander here.  And I'm so getting a kick out of all these sob stories over an inch of snow.
 
2013-02-01 08:32:39 AM  

Roukzeptea23: And DC drivers need to get their stuff together, like you said. Being a moron doesn't make it better. :(


I lived in DC for 3 yrs, and DC drivers obey traffic laws just fine.

It's just that the traffic laws they obey are from their home country.
 
2013-02-01 08:37:05 AM  
I'm in baltimore- just drove to work. I slid through an entire intersection. in my neighborhood. in a subaru. (aka, I wasn't going more than 20 mph to begin with, I started to brake to turn at the intersection, and never stopped). fark.
 
2013-02-01 08:38:04 AM  
Dear Subby,

I live in the DMV. STFU. I was just out. The roads are a sheet of ice.

Be a nice little tool and go back to the shed.

Who farking green lit this??? Must be a slow news day.
 
2013-02-01 08:38:54 AM  

ristst: Roukzeptea23: And DC drivers need to get their stuff together, like you said. Being a moron doesn't make it better. :(

I lived in DC for 3 yrs, and DC drivers obey traffic laws just fine.

It's just that the traffic laws they obey are from their home country.


Nailed it!

If your sphincter doesn't twitch when you see diplomatic plates, you've never driven in DC
 
2013-02-01 08:39:01 AM  
Shutting down the government for a couple days would cause less trouble than loading the media with concerns about a "fiscal cliff".

You farkers stalled the economy without actually doing anything.
 
2013-02-01 08:43:11 AM  

Cer10Death


I live in the DMV. STFU. I was just out. The roads are a sheet of ice.


If you live there, STFU and go get my new registration.
 
2013-02-01 08:44:40 AM  
And when a bus crashes because the always-bad traffic is worse, and your pwecious snowfwake gets a boo boo, you will sue.
 
2013-02-01 08:46:30 AM  

Endive Wombat: ///If I were pressed to describe the driving style for the DC area, I would say it is selfish - very "me first, me first, I got to the light first/merged first, I win!!!!"


Oh very much.  Just another reason I farking hate it here and am trying to get the fark out.
 
2013-02-01 08:54:06 AM  
I live in DC and grew up in NC...and can honestly say I'm happy to "freak out" over an inch of snow. I don't want to live in a place that constantly gets multiple feet of snow. Snow was fun as a kid when it meant school was closed and we got to go sledding...now it just means dealing with it while trying to get to work.

I'll take hurricanes any day.
 
2013-02-01 08:54:49 AM  
Seriously... everyone on fark is a master driver in snow. I bet when it snows 2 ft, you guys just plow through the snow with your honda civics.

//Lived in Alaska
///Drove in the 2011 groundhog blizzard near chicago
 
2013-02-01 08:55:46 AM  

eiger: When I was a kid I lived in far northern Canada. One time it snowed 1 ft/s for five days straight! We didn't even blink an eye!


I read about that storm - the great 82 mile high snowmageddon.  (Sure, but drifts were over 200 miles high)
 
2013-02-01 09:08:46 AM  

SlothB77: Not even an inch.  It is a dusting on grassy areas and no accumulation on paved surfaces.  And now the clouds have moved away and the skies are clear.


Sounds like enough for Arlington to close school for the day.
 
2013-02-01 09:09:52 AM  

Alonjar: Also... farkers choose to move back to Virginia?!!!?


It's the black hole of the East Coast. And, if you are native born, you are compeled. Like a salmon trying to spawn
 
2013-02-01 09:09:58 AM  

teylix: Seriously... everyone on fark is a master driver in snow. I bet when it snows 2 ft, you guys just plow through the snow with your honda civics.

//Lived in Alaska
///Drove in the 2011 groundhog blizzard near chicago


The hilarious thing is that right now in Chicago (or at least the far SW suburbs) there's about 1/4" of snow on the ground (if that) and the temperature is about 2° F. It's been almost a full year since there was meaningful snow on the ground, and we haven't had a real blizzard since the 2011 storm.

/still gets a huge kick over Shaggy_C and his epic revenge against an illegally parked, entitled douchebag
 
2013-02-01 09:10:16 AM  
It's not the drivers in DC that's the problem. Denizens of the District don't drive on snow days, it's the non-taxpaying leeches from the 'burbs that cause the problems.
 
2013-02-01 09:15:44 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Cer10Death

I live in the DMV. STFU. I was just out. The roads are a sheet of ice.


If you live there, STFU and go get my new registration.


Order on line. DMVNOW.com.
 
2013-02-01 09:19:07 AM  
A quarter inch of snow!? Shut down everything!
 
2013-02-01 09:19:16 AM  

dc0012c: It's not the drivers in DC that's the problem. Denizens of the District don't drive on snow days, it's the non-taxpaying leeches from the 'burbs that cause the problems.


Without us "non-taxpaying leeches" and the money we bring to DC every stinking day, DC would be an even bigger shiat hole. And we pay plenty of taxes. We pay taxes for farking plastic bags at the store...and every thing else.
 
2013-02-01 09:21:10 AM  

teylix: Seriously... everyone on fark is a master driver in snow. I bet when it snows 2 ft, you guys just plow through the snow with your honda civics.

//Lived in Alaska
///Drove in the 2011 groundhog blizzard near chicago


It was 17 inches, and in a Sentra not a Civic.
 
2013-02-01 09:27:13 AM  

GRCooper: ristst: Roukzeptea23: And DC drivers need to get their stuff together, like you said. Being a moron doesn't make it better. :(

I lived in DC for 3 yrs, and DC drivers obey traffic laws just fine.

It's just that the traffic laws they obey are from their home country.

Nailed it!

If your sphincter doesn't twitch when you see diplomatic plates, you've never driven in DC


Full on agreement here! Bravo.

My Indian neighbor has wrecked three new Camrys in the last 6 months. How she got a license is beyond me. She's back into another neighbor's car six times to where the neighbor signed a citation against her for careless driving.
 
2013-02-01 09:40:54 AM  

Cer10Death: GRCooper: ristst: Roukzeptea23: And DC drivers need to get their stuff together, like you said. Being a moron doesn't make it better. :(

I lived in DC for 3 yrs, and DC drivers obey traffic laws just fine.

It's just that the traffic laws they obey are from their home country.

Nailed it!

If your sphincter doesn't twitch when you see diplomatic plates, you've never driven in DC

Full on agreement here! Bravo.

My Indian neighbor has wrecked three new Camrys in the last 6 months. How she got a license is beyond me. She's back into another neighbor's car six times to where the neighbor signed a citation against her for careless driving.



Maybe it's confirmation bias, but those people are TERRIBLE drivers.

/Camry drivers....what did you think I meant??
 
2013-02-01 09:42:41 AM  

KatjaMouse: As someone who grew up in a DC suburb and moved back after college I can tell you that natives can drive just fine. It's everyone else who brought their bad habits with them that sucks. Remember, this region is filled with transplants.


This right here. All those transplants from the West Coast, Texas, the South etc just muck everything up.
 
2013-02-01 09:55:05 AM  
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2013-02-01 09:57:01 AM  
It's brutal out there right now.
i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-01 10:09:00 AM  

foo monkey: JollyMagistrate: Speaking as a Floridian, one inch of snow can be seriously damaging if you are not equipped for it as a municipality and very dangerous if the majority of your citizens have no idea how to handle it.

Sandy was a nothing hurricane for Florida, but put it up in New York and it is a serious disaster. Local context is very important.

I was going to ask if you're retarded, but I see you're volunteering the fact you're from Florida.


Sandy was large in diameter but only a Category 2 at worst, and barely a 1 when it hit NY. As I stated up-thread I grew up in NY, and still have several relatives in The City or on The Island. (And an uncle in NJ, but we don't speak of him)

The only reason Sandy had such an impact up there was the lack of infrastructure designed to deal with a storm surge/beach erosion, just as the South suffers in snow because it is not practical for them to keep the equipment around for a bi-yearly large storm.

In the Navy I was stationed in Norfolk, VA and Charleston, SC, and since i got out have been living in NC. If Sandy had hit down here the worst result would have been no bread/milk in the grocer and a line at the gas station for people filling up their generators, just in case. (longest I ever lost power for a hurricane was about 10 hours, and still had to go to work the next day) Although I admit the worst one I've experienced was only a Cat. 3. (eye went right over our house in Virginia Beach, very cool sight)
 
2013-02-01 10:12:36 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: /In Nova, traffic gets snarled because of low-angle  sunshine.
//No joke.


You ain't kiddin. When I worked in DC, I always hoped for overcast skies with no precipitation. Traffic was usually OK on those days. Sunshine or rain, and it was a hot mess.
 
2013-02-01 10:16:08 AM  

MrBallou: It's brutal out there right now.
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farking hilarious.  My girlfriend woke me up screaming that I should leave for work at least 2 hours early cuz of all the snow out there.  I looked out my window and I see more snow on my car than in my front yard.
 
2013-02-01 10:16:58 AM  

Fubegra: Shaggy


That was awesome, thx.
 
2013-02-01 10:31:40 AM  

SurfaceTension: About 90% of the drivers here are from other parts of the world. Many have no clue how to drive in snow, so even the littlest accumulation does have that effect.


DING DING DING

High school Spanish served me well on Monday afternoon to overhear a conversation as I was walking past a driveway: "Is this your first time driving in the snow?" "No, I did last year too."

...is this where I brag about leaving my car parked every day and taking either bus or metro to the office, depending on whether commutageddon is in the forecast? Racking up 4k miles a year on the odometer is a beautiful thing.
 
2013-02-01 10:35:47 AM  

C0rf: ...is this where I brag about leaving my car parked every day and taking either bus or metro to the office, depending on whether commutageddon is in the forecast? Racking up 4k miles a year on the odometer is a beautiful thing.


Only if I can brag about working in an office where I get to telework anytime inclement weather is forecast.
 
2013-02-01 10:37:45 AM  

Endive Wombat: Lots of disposable income in the DC area means people by big fancy cars "With Traction Control™" (BMW, Audi, Mercedes) or giant SUVs/Pick-Ups with 4x4 and for some reason think that because their car was marketed to them has having auto sensing stability control and 4 wheel drive that means they can drive as they normally do if not harder and the car will take care of itself.

tl;dr - People are idiots


Several years ago I had to go to work in my little econobox, even though the Beltway was unplowed and snow was still coming down. I was driving cautiously (or timidly, depending on your perspective), and got to the worksite safely. While on the Beltway I saw at least one SUV that had run off the road.

/The schadenfreude was delicious.
 
2013-02-01 10:38:48 AM  

cousndick: MrBallou: It's brutal out there right now.
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farking hilarious.  My girlfriend woke me up screaming that I should leave for work at least 2 hours early cuz of all the snow out there.  I looked out my window and I see more snow on my car than in my front yard.


To be fair, there was an icy patch on one of the sidewalks. Somebody might have been seriously hurt, but the NIH groundskeepers got on it quickly.
 
2013-02-01 10:44:02 AM  
I remember in college driving a girl around from Miami who was new to the mountains and never saw snow before.  We backed out of a parking spot at her apartment complex and she freaked the fark out when the snow crunched in the tires.


/She was really pissed when I did a deliberate slide in her parking lot.
//"Relax - you don't need to panic until I do."
 
2013-02-01 11:08:57 AM  

j.lunatic: Endive Wombat: Lots of disposable income in the DC area means people by big fancy cars "With Traction Control™" (BMW, Audi, Mercedes) or giant SUVs/Pick-Ups with 4x4 and for some reason think that because their car was marketed to them has having auto sensing stability control and 4 wheel drive that means they can drive as they normally do if not harder and the car will take care of itself.

tl;dr - People are idiots

Several years ago I had to go to work in my little econobox, even though the Beltway was unplowed and snow was still coming down. I was driving cautiously (or timidly, depending on your perspective), and got to the worksite safely. While on the Beltway I saw at least one SUV that had run off the road.

/The schadenfreude was delicious.


My first year I moved out here, that winter I am driving slow and cautiously and H2 is riding my ass.  He passes me on the right, honks and flips me off.  It was snowing, not too hard, but there was prob an inch on the ground and there was no salt or plowing yet.  About 8 minutes and 3 miles later, Mr. Douche H2 has spun out and ended up down in the lane separator (ditch) that separates east and west traffic on rt 7 in Sterling.  I rolled down my window as I passed him slowly, honking my horn and yelling "WOOT! WOOT, NICE JOB DOUCHE BAG!!!"
 
2013-02-01 11:37:11 AM  
So I used to live in the DC area and I would just like to say that the snow that falls in the NOVA,DC and Maryland area isn't like snow that falls farther north - its really wet and can create really slippery roads. When I moved to MA I realized that the snow that falls farther north is dry and is NBD to drive on. However people in DC really don't know how to drive in the snow.

I remember driving on the beltway in a snow flurry and I'm driving at a reasonable rate for the conditions and some lady in an SUV blows past me at 80. The SUV/AWD owners all think that their car is magic and the laws of physics don't apply to them.
 
2013-02-01 11:37:28 AM  
I expected the morning commute to be cake today here in northern Virginia.    16 minutes to the office, trivial amount of snow.   I was surprised to discover that the tire tracks were not clear areas, they were black ice, I slid through an intersection as the light turned red at the breakneck speed of 7 miles per hour, unable to stop and the traction control not helping.   We've had school closings over scary clouds in this area sometimes, but today was actually dangerous, and schools opened on time.
 
2013-02-01 12:00:20 PM  
I grew up in a part of PA that had pretty bad winters, and learned how to deal with them.  I transplanted to the DC suburbs (Northern Virginia) back in '89.

I can categorically state that everything you hear about drivers in this region being utterly incapable of dealing with more than two flakes is all too true.  (Some of us hypothesize that a big part of it is that so many folks here are transplants from other parts of the US, and also from around the world.  The theory is that folks decide they can't stand their local idiots any more, so they ship them to Washington, and we end up with everyone's unwanted loonies.)

And yet...

I have to give some credit where it's due.  I have seen this place go into a hilarious panic over a quarter inch of snow, but when we had the winter of 2009-2010, and got *three* foot-and-a-half to two-foot snowstorms, the latter two only about a week apart - for once, this area got its act together.  They may not have handled it as well as Buffalo, NY, but it was drastically better than anything I had ever seen here before (or since).  Road crews and drivers alike for once did a creditable job of dealing with it.  Kudos.
 
2013-02-01 12:31:35 PM  
I got a text at 630 am telling me the bible thumper I work with was going to be out "sick". Her family probaly guilted her into taking care of all their kids. I had to leave 2 hours early. It usually takes me about an hour to get to work from Germantown to Hanover which is about 40 miles. Took me 2 hours to get there. Funny thing was the closer I got to work the better the roads were and the traffic was worse. Did see a bunch of wipeouts on the side of the road. And my company dosent understand why I am waiting for an account closer to home to get promoted.
 
2013-02-01 12:39:39 PM  

Rhypskallion: I expected the morning commute to be cake today here in northern Virginia.    16 minutes to the office, trivial amount of snow.   I was surprised to discover that the tire tracks were not clear areas, they were black ice, I slid through an intersection as the light turned red at the breakneck speed of 7 miles per hour, unable to stop and the traction control not helping.   We've had school closings over scary clouds in this area sometimes, but today was actually dangerous, and schools opened on time.


And that's the danger. It was 70 degrees less than 48 hours ago. The first snow hits the pavement melts and refreezes, then snow accumulates on top of that. We don't get patches of ice, we get a coating of ice with some snow on top.

If you're a Finnish rally driver you can talk to me about how geat you are on ice, but your 3 feet of lake effect snow experience doesn't translate, yankee.
 
2013-02-01 12:43:06 PM  
But, WTF, they never cancelled school because the weather *might* be bad when I was a kid. I'm sure the ratio of lawyers to humans in DC has something to do with it
 
2013-02-01 01:14:53 PM  
Sad facts: Total accumulation was a quarter of an inch.  And it still managed to bring 95 to its knees all day.
 
2013-02-01 01:16:50 PM  
I'm a New Yorker, but I was in DC once for a "snow storm".  Co-worker stared dumbfounded out the window and said "Oh my god, it's a blizzard!  The city's going to shut down!!"  I glanced out the window and said "I wouldn't even slow down for this."

/CSB
 
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