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2013-02-01 07:17:25 AM  
First of all, get a real actor. Ashton Kutcher is really great at being Ashton Kutcher in front of a camera, but he ain't exactly Kings speech material.Secondly, Jobs was a complete unfeeling asshole. Does it portray him like that? If not, then fail.Or are they talking about the other one?/dnrtfa
 
2013-02-01 07:19:19 AM  
Hmm, it seems Fark took all the formatting out of my post.Lets see if it happens again./test//test
 
2013-02-01 07:28:24 AM  
Will still be wildly popular among iZombies.
 
2013-02-01 07:31:18 AM  
I'm going to take Woz's word on this.
 
2013-02-01 07:40:08 AM  
Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.
 
2013-02-01 07:46:31 AM  

SwingDancer: Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.


Yup because if you take something that's good and pile shiat on it, people will only see that shiat. You can bake the best cake in the world and dump shiat on it and all people will taste is the shiat.

The tiles are shiat, in case I haven't made that clear.
 
2013-02-01 07:49:07 AM  

SwingDancer: Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.


I just wonder why EVERYTHING designed by Microsoft looks so god-awful ugly. Is it Gates sticking his nose in and overruling the graphic design guys (presumably they do have these)? The kindergarten-looking tiles are only the latest eyesore - the Surface also looked like something out of Soviet times.

Why can't they just keep it modest and simple?
 
2013-02-01 07:52:31 AM  

SpeedyBB: SwingDancer: Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.

I just wonder why EVERYTHING designed by Microsoft looks so god-awful ugly. Is it Gates sticking his nose in and overruling the graphic design guys (presumably they do have these)? The kindergarten-looking tiles are only the latest eyesore - the Surface also looked like something out of Soviet times.

Why can't they just keep it modest and simple?


how much of this thread will be about the movie or Steve Jobs and how much will devolve into another stupid Win 8 hate thread?
 
2013-02-01 07:53:06 AM  
Is it just me or does Wozniak have an odd way of speaking? Not sure what it is. It's almost like random, unfinished thoughts crammed together to make a sentence. I understand what he means but it just reads weird. I dunno. Maybe it is just me.
 
2013-02-01 07:54:52 AM  
" Some critics said it portrayed an overly fawning image of Jobs, while others praised Kutcher and called it an appropriate, if inaccurate, homage to Jobs "

While I can understand that a movie can be good while playing loose with the facts ("The Social Network"), but the idea that you are making up lies about historical events to make a better movie doesn't seem like an "appropriate homage".

Would "Flags of our Fathers" be an appropriate homage to the veterans of WW2 if the Americans who fought at the battle of Iwa Jima wore mecha power suits?
 
2013-02-01 07:58:57 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Will still be wildly popular among iZombies.


A cult is a cult.  Its followers need something to do.
 
2013-02-01 07:59:42 AM  

snowshovel: " Some critics said it portrayed an overly fawning image of Jobs, while others praised Kutcher and called it an appropriate, if inaccurate, homage to Jobs "

While I can understand that a movie can be good while playing loose with the facts ("The Social Network"), but the idea that you are making up lies about historical events to make a better movie doesn't seem like an "appropriate homage".

Would "Flags of our Fathers" be an appropriate homage to the veterans of WW2 if the Americans who fought at the battle of Iwa Jima wore mecha power suits?


there's the Steve Jobs that tech people, apple employees past and present know.   Then there's the Steve Jobs that the rest of the country was presented in the media.   My guess is the people responsible want to paint that image that caters to the latter.
 
2013-02-01 08:04:04 AM  
Are these the same people who said Movie 43 was awful without even considering that it was produced by the Farrelly Brothers?
 
2013-02-01 08:06:26 AM  
Maybe people are realizing that being a great businessman doesn't necessarily translate into being a fascinating person.
 
2013-02-01 08:12:11 AM  
 
2013-02-01 08:14:30 AM  

abhorrent1: Is it just me or does Wozniak have an odd way of speaking? Not sure what it is. It's almost like random, unfinished thoughts crammed together to make a sentence. I understand what he means but it just reads weird. I dunno. Maybe it is just me.


Dude, he was in a plane crash in 1981.
 
2013-02-01 08:19:13 AM  

SwingDancer: Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good


Well, I'm two tests shy of becoming a Server 2012 MCSM (because those tests don't exist yet) so somebody at Microsoft apparently thinks I know what I'm doing with the new operating system.

Windows is 8 shiat on a shiat cracker dipped in shiat fed to people who like shiat after it's been shiat out of a shiatbird (, Ricky).

Windows 8 isn't popular among people who know what they're doing. Windows 8 is popular among people who were too stupid to figure out how the start menu and nested controls worked and didn't have any need to get to any of the guts of the system because they had no idea what any of them did anyway.

But you keep dreaming, sparky. You keep telling yourself that the reason Windows 8 is for smart people is that it was designed to be like a speak n' spell.
 
2013-02-01 08:21:04 AM  

thornhill: Maybe people are realizing that being a great businessman doesn't necessarily translate into being a fascinating person.


This. there is a fallacious assumption that anyone who has accomplished interesting things must, thereby, be an interesting person who leads an interesting life.
And it ain't necessarily so.
 
2013-02-01 08:31:14 AM  
Saying it's awful because "it isn't how it was" isn't much of a criticism.

Maybe "how it was" was really dull, so the fiction fairy has spiced it up a bit?
 
2013-02-01 08:31:27 AM  
"jOBS"??? Really? With that title, you could put Daniel Day Lewis in it and I'd still avoid it.
 
2013-02-01 08:32:16 AM  
So I forget.. is this sparkly vampire Steve Jobs or shambling zombie Steve Jobs?
 
2013-02-01 08:34:00 AM  
Windows 8 sucks.
 
2013-02-01 08:34:09 AM  
I don't care about jOBS one bit. Aaron Sorkin is making the only Steve Jobs biopic worth concerning ourselves with. In comparison, this is what Deepstar Six was to The Abyss.
 
2013-02-01 08:35:03 AM  
As a long time Apple fan, I don't need a movie, because I remember most of it the first time.
 
2013-02-01 08:37:22 AM  

snowshovel: " Some critics said it portrayed an overly fawning image of Jobs, while others praised Kutcher and called it an appropriate, if inaccurate, homage to Jobs "

While I can understand that a movie can be good while playing loose with the facts ("The Social Network"), but the idea that you are making up lies about historical events to make a better movie doesn't seem like an "appropriate homage".

Would "Flags of our Fathers" be an appropriate homage to the veterans of WW2 if the Americans who fought at the battle of Iwa Jima wore mecha power suits?


no, but it would be  AWESOME!

/As long as Bay-Abrams don't touch it.
 
2013-02-01 08:39:42 AM  

jso2897: thornhill: Maybe people are realizing that being a great businessman doesn't necessarily translate into being a fascinating person.

This. there is a fallacious assumption that anyone who has accomplished interesting things must, thereby, be an interesting person who leads an interesting life.
And it ain't necessarily so.


Then why make a movie about him?
 
2013-02-01 08:47:02 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: You keep telling yourself that the reason Windows 8 is for smart people is that it was designed to be like a speak n' spell.


If only Microsoft had included some way to get rid of the tiles and get a standard Windows desktop back.

i240.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-01 08:48:09 AM  

GoldSpider: jso2897: thornhill: Maybe people are realizing that being a great businessman doesn't necessarily translate into being a fascinating person.

This. there is a fallacious assumption that anyone who has accomplished interesting things must, thereby, be an interesting person who leads an interesting life.
And it ain't necessarily so.

Then why make a movie about him?


The problem with Jobs is that he was *very* interesting, but not really in a way that lends itself to a hagiography. More in the "life and times of a sociopath" sense.
 
2013-02-01 08:51:54 AM  

ColSanders: If only Microsoft had included some way to get rid of the tiles and get a standard Windows desktop back.


Yea. That would have been great, actually.

But you sure proved me wrong with your crummy Photoshop job. Good argument.
 
2013-02-01 08:55:00 AM  
Well, the little clip that they released from it got the truth of what happened completely reversed.  It shows Steve Jobs telling a skeptical Steve Wozniak about how computers are going to change the world, while Woz just wants to start a business.   By all accounts, including Woz's own, it was completely the other way around: Woz was the wide-eyed technological utopist, Jobs saw this as a way to make a lot of cash.
 
2013-02-01 08:56:43 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: But you sure proved me wrong with your crummy Photoshop job. Good argument.


Thanks.  It was certainly no match for your eloquent LOLSPEEKNSPELLLOLWTFBBQ dissertation, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee.
 
2013-02-01 08:57:43 AM  

Bungles: The problem with Jobs is that he was *very* interesting, but not really in a way that lends itself to a hagiography. More in the "life and times of a sociopath" sense.


The only way it could be interesting is if it is honest (and maybe embellishes, just a tad) his flaws.  Not saying they should portray him as Howard-Hughes-Looney-Tunes, but they have to avoid sucking the guy's dick.
 
2013-02-01 09:06:23 AM  

GoldSpider: The only way it could be interesting is if it is honest


Exactly.  I hate the Cult of Mac(tm), have never understood the worship-like devotion they instill in their followers, but I would most definitely watch an honest story about Jobs and Apple.
 
2013-02-01 09:11:29 AM  

ColSanders: GoldSpider: The only way it could be interesting is if it is honest

Exactly.  I hate the Cult of Mac(tm), have never understood the worship-like devotion they instill in their followers, but I would most definitely watch an honest story about Jobs and Apple.



You can't really do that so soon after his death and expect co-operation from friends and family.
 
2013-02-01 09:12:08 AM  

GoldSpider: The only way it could be interesting is if it is honest (and maybe embellishes, just a tad) his flaws.


Well, that was certainly semi-literate...
 
2013-02-01 09:13:16 AM  
Did Kutcher really get hospitalized for pancreas problems after trying to copy Jobs' diet?
 
2013-02-01 09:15:41 AM  

abhorrent1: Is it just me or does Wozniak have an odd way of speaking? Not sure what it is. It's almost like random, unfinished thoughts crammed together to make a sentence. I understand what he means but it just reads weird. I dunno. Maybe it is just me.


Woz claims to still have memory problems from the head trauma he got when he crashed his Bonanza in the 80s.  That might explain why he jumps around a lot when talking.
 
2013-02-01 09:18:16 AM  

StrikitRich: abhorrent1: Is it just me or does Wozniak have an odd way of speaking? Not sure what it is. It's almost like random, unfinished thoughts crammed together to make a sentence. I understand what he means but it just reads weird. I dunno. Maybe it is just me.

Woz claims to still have memory problems from the head trauma he got when he crashed his Bonanza in the 80s.  That might explain why he jumps around a lot when talking.


okay maybe that explains it. I didn't know he was in a plane crash.
 
2013-02-01 09:18:52 AM  

Marine1: Did Kutcher really get hospitalized for pancreas problems after trying to copy Jobs' diet?


According to a couple of sites he actually said as much at the Sundance Film Festival so, unless he's the one lying about it, I'd have to go with yes.

Not that it should be surprising. Eating only fruit seems like an extraordinarily stupid idea.

ColSanders: Thanks. It was certainly no match for your eloquent LOLSPEEKNSPELLLOLWTFBBQ dissertation, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee.


So, did you actually have a brilliant suggestion to fix Windows 8's widely reviled drawbacks that doesn't involve third party software or splattering a bunch of icons over the desktop or are you just like every other mindless cheerleader for the deeply unpopular operating system and you're just angry that most other people don't seem to like the same brightly colored kiddie OS you do?
 
2013-02-01 09:22:30 AM  
So what you're saying Subby is "Jobs Blows"
 
2013-02-01 09:24:03 AM  

VRaptor117: SwingDancer: Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.

Yup because if you take something that's good and pile shiat on it, people will only see that shiat. You can bake the best cake in the world and dump shiat on it and all people will taste is the shiat.

The tiles are shiat, in case I haven't made that clear.


But you can install a third party program that will scrape the sh*t off the cake. That way you only taste a little bit of the sh*t.

At least that's what I'm being told by people that are eating sh*t frosted cake.
 
2013-02-01 09:29:57 AM  
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I watched the clip a second time and have to agree. Ashton Kutcher is just playing Ashton Kutcher pretending to be Steve Jobs.

I think we discovered the limits of his acting abilities, assuming he had any to begin with.

/According to Fark, he didn't.
 
2013-02-01 09:30:57 AM  
i3.ytimg.com

So, sounds like you should skip jOBS and got find the original movie.
 
2013-02-01 09:31:01 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: So, did you actually have a brilliant suggestion to fix Windows 8's widely reviled drawbacks that doesn't involve third party software or splattering a bunch of icons over the desktop or are you just like every other mindless cheerleader for the deeply unpopular operating system and you're just angry that most other people don't seem to like the same brightly colored kiddie OS you do?


I don't really care if you don't like it.  I don't own Microsoft stock.  The day I get angry about someone else's opinion of an OS is the day I need to reevaluate my life.

The only time I see the tiles is when I first boot up.  After that it's the standard Windows desktop.  I'm a little puzzled why so many seem to have a tough time with that, but to each his own.

Is 8 perfect?  No.  Would I introduce it into my Enterprise environment?  Hell no.  But for personal use it's a darn good OS for people who don't mind change.
 
2013-02-01 09:31:12 AM  
Don't see it. Ticket prices are $500 and you have to wait in line for ten hours, then you find out they're coming out with a better movie in six months for only $300 a ticket.
 
2013-02-01 09:43:42 AM  

SpeedyBB: SwingDancer: Windows 8 Review were a mixed bag. the fell into 2 different categories

1) Under the hood reviews, which shows where it will excel over windows 7, these reviews tended to be positive.
2) ZOMG TILES! Kill it with fire! or derp Even number OS's Suck. derp.  Which tended toward the negative.

Those who actually know what they are doing have found windows 8 to be pretty good.  That being said, I only have it on my RT i was given from work.  I wanted to install it to a flash drive on my home PC but they wouldn't let you do that with the full upgrade :(   So i'm opting out for 1 of my 3 computers, in with 1. and the server is staying exactly as is til it catches fire.

I just wonder why EVERYTHING designed by Microsoft looks so god-awful ugly. Is it Gates sticking his nose in and overruling the graphic design guys (presumably they do have these)? The kindergarten-looking tiles are only the latest eyesore - the Surface also looked like something out of Soviet times.

Why can't they just keep it modest and simple?


The funny thing about the tiles to me is that when I first saw a phone with them I was like 'oh man that looks pretty great!  Is that a special UI for android phones or something?  What is that neat thing?!'  But when I see it on a monitor I think it looks ugly as hell and want no part of it.
 
2013-02-01 09:47:25 AM  

snowshovel: " Some critics said it portrayed an overly fawning image of Jobs, while others praised Kutcher and called it an appropriate, if inaccurate, homage to Jobs "

While I can understand that a movie can be good while playing loose with the facts ("The Social Network"), but the idea that you are making up lies about historical events to make a better movie doesn't seem like an "appropriate homage".

Would "Flags of our Fathers" be an appropriate homage to the veterans of WW2 if the Americans who fought at the battle of Iwa Jima wore mecha power suits?


It is appropriate because Steve Jobs' life was inaccurate. He spent his life taking credit for things other people did. So if they attribute all of Woz's achievements to Jobs, it isn't factually correct, but is a good homage to Jobs.
 
2013-02-01 09:48:54 AM  

Dissociater: The funny thing about the tiles to me is that when I first saw a phone with them I was like 'oh man that looks pretty great!  Is that a special UI for android phones or something?  What is that neat thing?!'  But when I see it on a monitor I think it looks ugly as hell and want no part of it.


It's a great UI for smartphones/tablets. It just falls apart a bit when you try to run it with a mouse/keyboard, especially on a large monitor.
 
2013-02-01 09:49:59 AM  

GoldSpider: jso2897: thornhill: Maybe people are realizing that being a great businessman doesn't necessarily translate into being a fascinating person.

This. there is a fallacious assumption that anyone who has accomplished interesting things must, thereby, be an interesting person who leads an interesting life.
And it ain't necessarily so.

Then why make a movie about him?


Because he and Obama are the gods of liberals.
 
2013-02-01 09:53:40 AM  

abhorrent1: Is it just me or does Wozniak have an odd way of speaking? Not sure what it is. It's almost like random, unfinished thoughts crammed together to make a sentence. I understand what he means but it just reads weird. I dunno. Maybe it is just me.


I noticed it too when I went to his website once.  Usually he seems an alright guy but for the last several years he's been increasingly erratic.  I think he's at that point of mild crazy and older age where he's never satisfied with anything.  On that point I for one hold no hope for myself.
 
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