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(Bitten and Bound)   X Games snowmobile racer Caleb Moore has died of injuries suffered during a backflip that flopped   (bittenandbound.com) divider line 29
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2013-01-31 09:25:20 PM
3 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: Dale Earnhardt's wreck didn't look so bad either, and it obviously killed him. I don't see people screaming that Nascar should stop racing.


Dale Earnheardt's wreck resulted in massive changes in the areas of driver safety and restraint, and NASCAR policies.
2013-01-31 09:49:15 PM
2 votes:
ESPN is going to re-evaulate this event. I dunno, should 450-pound machines be flipped twice in the air, or is this lunacy so The Mouse, Red Bull, 5 Minute Energy, Monster, etc., can sell product?
2013-01-31 09:11:23 PM
2 votes:

BronyMedic: hbk72777: They worry so much about regulating football, yet the X games seem to be ripe for safety measures.

One fatality in 20+ years of operation. Football in the United States, alone, causes 9 fatalities a year.


Uhhhh...if you counting non-pro football, you need to count non-pro "Xtreme" sports, right?  I am sure you can find a plethora of fatal accidents of mountain bikers, dirt bikers, or hell probably even some poor teenager eating coping on a vert ramp trying to skateboard.  At some point it is more about sample-size and freak accidents...
2013-02-01 01:24:47 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Your Average Witty Fark User: Dale Earnhardt's wreck didn't look so bad either, and it obviously killed him. I don't see people screaming that Nascar should stop racing.

Dale Earnheardt's wreck resulted in massive changes in the areas of driver safety and restraint, and NASCAR policies.


The problem is, how do we make flipping a 450lb snow machine safer?
2013-02-01 11:11:51 AM
1 votes:

chapman: This will be a 10 second story on ESPN radio, after hours upon hours of talk about how the NFL is too dangerous to last another decade.  Mike and Mike spent a whole day going on about how someday, somebody will die on the field in a game.    They were so concerned.  I wonder how those assclowns feel about an actual corpse produced by an ESPN event.


Yeah, you gotta love those ESPN bobbleheads.

Greenie: "This just in...an X-Games athlete has died from head trauma sustained while attempting to flip a snowmobile."
Golic: (confused by the interruption) "Futt-bawwwl?"
2013-02-01 10:42:34 AM
1 votes:

starlost: the first indy 500 top speed during qualifying was 81 mph. the highest was 231 mph on a track too small for them and before rule changes and it is actually slower now. using your logic and i wish indy did those guys should be racing on a 10 mile oval today instead of 2.5 miles and at speeds of 400-500 mph or whatever they can get too.


And the X Games has done likewise every time progression has rendered one of their courses obsolete. For instance, here's the feed of the 2012 Step Up competition. (It's the high jump for dirt bikes, for those unaware.) They set the bar using the poles they used to use as uprights for Step Up before the competitors went too high to be able to use them anymore. By the time the night was out, they nearly maxed out the current uprights as well, meaning now they have to go get another new set of uprights. By the end, they were talking about what they were going to have to do next year: have a higher starting height, maybe have a guy drop in from the rafters to set the bar because it was getting too high for the poles to reach.

At 40 feet, the two finalists were clearing the bar by so much that everybody knew they were going to be there a while. They were already setting records at that point. They ended up going to 47.
2013-02-01 09:57:45 AM
1 votes:
I don't really see a lot of safety changes coming out of this one. You're flipping snowmobiles.  Think about that for a second - you're FLIPPING SNOWMOBILES.  That's some "hold my beer" action right there.  This isn't long term injury resulting from hundreds of collisions stacking up over time to result in degenerative brain disease.  Those guys need to be educated on how that works, what will happen, and decide if they want to go down that long path.  Every one of these guys - the snowmobile flippers - knows exactly the stakes when they're on the ramp.  They love what they do, and get an incredible thrill out of it.  Of course this accident is terribly unfortunate, but it's not surprising.  If there's a group of people flipping snowmobiles on a regular basis, you're going to have to deal with the occasional crushed skull.  It comes with the territory.

Here's to you, snowmobile flipper.  You're awesome.  Crazy, but awesome.  Sorry you didn't make it out of this one.  My heart goes out to your family.
2013-02-01 05:16:47 AM
1 votes:
Gosling
That's progression. It happens all over action sports, every year, inexorably. What's huge and unheard-of one year might not be enough to medal two, three years down the road. And sooner or later, it gets to the point where they're attempting things that could be potentially fatal if they blow it.

the first indy 500 top speed during qualifying was 81 mph. the highest was 231 mph on a track too small for them and before rule changes and it is actually slower now. using your logic and i wish indy did those guys should be racing on a 10 mile oval today instead of 2.5 miles and at speeds of 400-500 mph or whatever they can get too.
drag racing should be 1 mile now not 1/4 mile.
f1 tracks should be at least 5 miles in length
its time we took the restrictions off these cars and let the guys who still have brass balls go wide open.
there is a area of germany with concrete roads in a 20 mile long oval pattern with banking. it was made by the nazis to let huge concrete carrying trucks quickly build a ring of v2 rocket sites and some people have suggested it could be adapted into a race track.
2013-02-01 03:34:46 AM
1 votes:

thisisyourbrainonFark: ESPN is going to re-evaulate this event. I dunno, should 450-pound machines be flipped twice in the air, or is this lunacy so The Mouse, Red Bull, 5 Minute Energy, Monster, etc., can sell product?


It's not just snowmobiling. All of the action sports (they don't want to be called 'extreme sports' anymore; they're 'action sports' now) keep saying that it's a matter of progression. Used to be, you were cool if you could do a simple ollie on your skateboard. Back in 1990, Nickelodeon had a show called 'Sk8TV'. Here is a clip from that show, showing Tony Hawk doing things that were considered pushing the envelope in 1990.

He was barely getting over the rim of a bowl back then.

Cut to 2007,  when Hawk is on the X-Games sidelines, watching Jake Brown going so high off the top of a ramp that when he hit the ground his shoes flew off. They were going into his run talking about 720's into 540's, things that weren't even thought possible in 1990.

That's progression. It happens all over action sports, every year, inexorably. What's huge and unheard-of one year might not be enough to medal two, three years down the road. And sooner or later, it gets to the point where they're attempting things that could be potentially fatal if they blow it.
2013-02-01 02:59:16 AM
1 votes:

REO-Weedwagon: I know the Pitkin County coroner, and he says Moore is still alive. He talked to the nurses at St Mary's Hospital two hours ago (it's 1am here in Colorado), and they said Moore still has a pulse.


They may be donating his organs. You can still have a pulse and be declared legally dead if you have no brain bloodflow.
2013-02-01 12:48:33 AM
1 votes:

thisisyourbrainonFark: ESPN is going to re-evaulate this event. I dunno, should 450-pound machines be flipped twice in the air, or is this lunacy so The Mouse, Red Bull, 5 Minute Energy, Monster, etc., can sell product?


That's never been done.  Moore was the first to land a backflip even once.
2013-02-01 12:23:00 AM
1 votes:
This will be a 10 second story on ESPN radio, after hours upon hours of talk about how the NFL is too dangerous to last another decade.  Mike and Mike spent a whole day going on about how someday, somebody will die on the field in a game.    They were so concerned.  I wonder how those assclowns feel about an actual corpse produced by an ESPN event.
2013-01-31 10:30:30 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Your Average Witty Fark User: Dale Earnhardt's wreck didn't look so bad either, and it obviously killed him. I don't see people screaming that Nascar should stop racing.

Dale Earnheardt's wreck resulted in massive changes in the areas of driver safety and restraint, and NASCAR policies.


And you don't think the same thing is going to happen in this instance?
2013-01-31 10:25:19 PM
1 votes:
OK, it's sad that he died from the injuries and everything. But a guy should not be trying to flip a machine that weighs around twice as much as he does on a surface that is not conducive to machines moving at high speeds. It's one thing for a motorcycle to flip because those things are lighter (depending on the engine but still within the range of a normal human's weight) and can obtain higher speeds. But a snowmobile? Why didn't anyone bother telling these idiots "hey, this idea is farking stupid and will probably get you killed eventually. So don't do it!?"

Again, it's sad that he's dead. But I don't feel sorry for anyone here.
2013-01-31 10:24:24 PM
1 votes:

Foxxinnia: I know that calling that crash "unlucky" isn't quite the right word considering they're backflipping snowmobiles and all, but it's still pretty damn unlikely that the snowmobile would just happened to come down right on his head in the manner that it did.


And he was soooo close to pulling it out. I mean, even if he hadn't stuck the landing, a few more degrees of rotation would've gotten the tips of the skis to contact normally, allowing the suspension to absorb more of the impact, rather than have everything counter-rotate as it did. He may still've flown off the machine, but he likely wouldn't've had it land on him.
2013-01-31 10:19:36 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Your Average Witty Fark User: Dale Earnhardt's wreck didn't look so bad either, and it obviously killed him. I don't see people screaming that Nascar should stop racing.

Dale Earnheardt's wreck resulted in massive changes in the areas of driver safety and restraint, and NASCAR policies.


Yeah but X Games do take this crap seriously. They know shait will happen and make sure every guy/girl is ok at the end. I'm surprised this happened now after 20 years & not during the summer X Games. I knew 1 woman died last year practicing for the winter X Games but with this, I'm sure ESPN will be super careful next year or scrap the snow cross thing all together.
2013-01-31 10:09:52 PM
1 votes:

Neondistraction: I believe it was Matt Groening who once said "Love is a snowmobile racing across the frozen tundra.  Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come."


"Love is not something that you can put chains on and throw into a lake. That's called Houdini. Love is liking someone a lot." - Jack Handey
2013-01-31 10:06:43 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: The freaky thing is he ended up walking away from the wreck, wasn't til later the problems surfaced.


Head injuries are funny like that. It isn't so much the hit that gets you, as much as it is the swelling/clotting later on.
2013-01-31 10:03:32 PM
1 votes:
Godspeed Caleb.
2013-01-31 09:46:10 PM
1 votes:
I'll be honest, I didn't realize there was a sanctioned sporting event where people FLIPPED MOTHERF***ING SNOWMOBILES.

I don't have a problem with it, in fact, I wish I had discovered it sooner.
2013-01-31 09:41:00 PM
1 votes:
I believe it was Matt Groening who once said "Love is a snowmobile racing across the frozen tundra.  Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come."
2013-01-31 09:34:10 PM
1 votes:
At least he died doing what he loved.

Being crushed by a snowmobile.
2013-01-31 09:22:34 PM
1 votes:
Dale Earnhardt's wreck didn't look so bad either, and it obviously killed him. I don't see people screaming that Nascar should stop racing.

Shiat happens. It sucks when it happens, but they know going in that with a lot of your "extreme" (I farking hate that) sports, your risk of injury goes down, because your risk of death increases. Death happens. It happens whether you're riding a snowmobile, skiing (Sarah Burke, for example), or sitting on your goddamn couch, eating Twinkies.

/was just out free soloing an ice route two weeks ago
//could happen to me, and I know the risks
2013-01-31 09:11:42 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure it's a generally accepted medical fact that the human chest and skull, and by-proxy, the brain does not well tolerate the impact of a 450lb Snowmobile traveling at 60+ miles per hour into the back of it, regardless of if you have a helmet on or not.

The fact he had a pericardial tamponade by the article doesn't help things. This was massive, catastrophic trauma looking at the video.


Tamponade is delicious.
It's like your girlfriend isn't pregnant in the summertime with a little sugar...
2013-01-31 09:02:19 PM
1 votes:

hbk72777: They worry so much about regulating football, yet the X games seem to be ripe for safety measures.


One fatality in 20+ years of operation. Football in the United States, alone, causes 9 fatalities a year.
2013-01-31 09:01:13 PM
1 votes:
The freaky thing is he ended up walking away from the wreck, wasn't til later the problems surfaced.
2013-01-31 08:58:00 PM
1 votes:
They worry so much about regulating football, yet the X games seem to be ripe for safety measures.
2013-01-31 08:53:18 PM
1 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: Here it is on video
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96a_1359656674


If only that man had an anti-snowmobile rocket launcher, as is his second amendment RIGHT as a CITIZEN of the UNITED STATES, he would not have been HELPLESSLY MURDERED by a CRIMINAL SNOWMOBILE.

Why do libtards want the killing to continue?

/am I doing this right? This is the meme on FARK, right?
//Sad tragedy. It's amazing the X-Games were able to go, what, 20 years without one?
2013-01-31 08:32:27 PM
1 votes:
I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure it's a generally accepted medical fact that the human chest and skull, and by-proxy, the brain does not well tolerate the impact of a 450lb Snowmobile traveling at 60+ miles per hour into the back of it, regardless of if you have a helmet on or not.

The fact he had a pericardial tamponade by the article doesn't help things. This was massive, catastrophic trauma looking at the video.
 
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