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(My Fox Memphis)   And for today's school shooting we have... Atlanta. 14-year old in hospital with gunshot wound to the head, one faculty member injured   (myfoxmemphis.com) divider line 915
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2013-01-31 06:03:27 PM
Gun fetishists agree:  More guns = more safety.  Therefore, infinite number of guns = infinite amount of safety.

MORE GUNS - unless you HATE SAFETY!
 
2013-01-31 06:03:29 PM
This is not the time to show "Bullet to the Head" in movie theaters.
 
2013-01-31 06:03:42 PM
I really do not think this is a gun issue, and I am starting to even wonder if its a mental health issue..

I think the counter to this is nothing more then more death. A good plague has not swept threw our culture in a long ass time, so at the moment, we are packed like rats on top of one another going ape shiat and fighting for a tiny little spot of peace in a world full of everyone trying to decide everyone elses business. Maybe if that happened, we could all get breathing room and not go nuthouse on the ones of us left alive.
 
2013-01-31 06:03:55 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

You sound like you want to arm criminals and terrorists... why do you hate Family Values and want to be Soft on Crime?


Message received; no reason or logic in gun threads.

/ it's against teh rooles
 
2013-01-31 06:04:12 PM

ox45tallboy: Relatively Obscure: Plus it's not very catchy.

There's a 14-year old kid in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the head, and probably a couple of very distraught parents or other family members, and I'm considering making a joke about it because I'm becoming so jaded.

I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?


Pre-shoot all the kids. No one wants to shoot a kid that's already been shot.
Freedom isn't free.
 
2013-01-31 06:04:14 PM

grxymkjbn: Gun fetishists agree:  More guns = more safety.  Therefore, infinite number of guns = infinite amount of safety.

MORE GUNS - unless you HATE SAFETY!


An armed school is a polite school.
 
2013-01-31 06:04:18 PM

ox45tallboy: Relatively Obscure: Plus it's not very catchy.

There's a 14-year old kid in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the head, and probably a couple of very distraught parents or other family members, and I'm considering making a joke about it because I'm becoming so jaded.

I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?


Not going to touch the gun control part, but there is the social and psychological reasons. Giving these shootings less press coverage and media frenzy would be a great step to prevent kids from getting the idea shooting someone in the way to glory/fame/infamy/etc.
 
2013-01-31 06:04:45 PM
It's a 14 year old boy with the head wound.  There's nothing up there right now anyway but a burning desire to touch boobs and fap.  No big deal.   Let him touch some titties and he'll be on his way inside of a week.
 
2013-01-31 06:05:41 PM
Isn't this like a daily occurrence in Chicago?
 
2013-01-31 06:05:44 PM
Because gun free disarmed victim zones work
 
2013-01-31 06:05:50 PM
According to the article:

In a press conference, Atlanta Public Schools Superintendent Erroll Davis said that there was hope that the student could be released from the hospital on Thursday night.

Either the shooter had very poor aim, or the shooter used a .22LR caliber firearm. Both may be true.

That no other individuals were shot strongly suggests that the injured student was specifically targeted.
 
2013-01-31 06:05:52 PM

Somaticasual: Do we have to count gang shootings, one-off incidents, and 1 or 2 victims as "school shootings" now? Because it's going to have to big newspaper to serve houston and LA..


Why don't victims of gang shootings count?   Are they less dead?   Or do they have some other "demographic" that makes you think they're worth less than you?
 
2013-01-31 06:06:08 PM
Take the time to go over Google's archived newspapers.  You'll see this has been going on for decades, except now, the media has an interest in creating outrage.

The same way they tried to create mass hysteria/ outrage with

SARS
H1N1
Mad Cow
AIDS
The 1%

etc

They always troll, because it works every damn time.
 
2013-01-31 06:06:36 PM
Hrmmm, one student shot and one teacher shot, possibly while trying to protect said student.

You got gun thread in my bully thread!
 
2013-01-31 06:06:39 PM
Was a gun used in self defense? If not ignore and carry on. Otherwise 'Murica Fark Yeah!!!!
 
2013-01-31 06:06:49 PM

edmo: iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

And here comes the Blame The Media crowd.....


Yeah, stupid freedom of press.
 
2013-01-31 06:07:02 PM

whidbey: iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

Yeah buh-buh I don't want Obummer to raise my taxes any more. Welfare DEADBEATS.
HURRR.


Ah I see; banana, wildebeest, snorkel. Does that clear up my position?

/ see? I can type random stuff too
 
2013-01-31 06:07:23 PM
Old and busted: student/teacher sex. New hotness: student/teacher gunfights.

/I know the teacher wasn't shot, but the power of the meme compelled me
 
2013-01-31 06:07:45 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hrmmm, one student shot and one teacher shot, possibly while trying to protect said student.

You got gun thread in my bully thread!


No teachers were shot.
 
2013-01-31 06:07:46 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hrmmm, one student shot and one teacher shot, possibly while trying to protect said student.

You got gun thread in my bully thread!


The article:
That teacher was not shot.
 
2013-01-31 06:07:54 PM
Atlanta public school + Google images of said school.
 
2013-01-31 06:08:17 PM

scotchcrotch: edmo: iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

And here comes the Blame The Media crowd.....

Yeah, stupid freedom of press.


Freedom of the Press can and is often abused, though.

See: Faux "News"
 
2013-01-31 06:09:22 PM

edmo: iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

And here comes the Blame The Media crowd.....


How is it not a function of media fixation? We're talking about mentally unstable people. Psyco monkey see; psyco monkey do.
 
2013-01-31 06:10:19 PM

Treygreen13: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hrmmm, one student shot and one teacher shot, possibly while trying to protect said student.

You got gun thread in my bully thread!

The article:
That teacher was not shot.


Ah, see that's what I get for basing my comment off of earlier radio reports instead of reading the article.

Apologies everyone
 
2013-01-31 06:10:34 PM

Randomly: The NRA could take the money it spends on hookers, blow and lobbying Congressmen and use it to provide discounted gun safes to gunowners with angsty teenage boys.

Or Congress could require all guns sold include a trigger lock.

Or they can make it a misdemeanor for you to have your gun used in a crime so that parents lock it up.


My Taurus has an integrated trigger lock. Just don't require me to keep it locked in a way that renders it useless for personal or home defense.
 
2013-01-31 06:11:06 PM

whidbey: Welfare DEADBEATS.



Remember when you were one?
 
2013-01-31 06:11:56 PM

TheHumanCannonball: Not going to touch the gun control part, but there is the social and psychological reasons. Giving these shootings less press coverage and media frenzy would be a great step to prevent kids from getting the idea shooting someone in the way to glory/fame/infamy/etc.


Seconded. It makes you wonder - what if the media just started giving every school shooter a really insulting nickname.. You probably wouldn't see as many copycat shootings if they thought they were going to be less "BTK" or "VT killer" and more "Poser #72" or "some douche with a gun"
 
2013-01-31 06:12:16 PM
And for today's school shooting we have... (spins chamber) Atlanta.

Sad...FTFY
 
2013-01-31 06:12:17 PM
Another day, another shooting.
 
2013-01-31 06:12:18 PM
false alarm, it was black people, gun grabbers and gun nuts can stand down.
 
2013-01-31 06:12:33 PM
AdolfOliverPanties

We need to arm all students.
Wow, 3 whole posts before this tired old hyperbole.

Gunowner say: Right to Keep and Bear arms
Hoplophobes Claim we said: You want to own Nuclear weapons!

Gunowner say: Arm guards or trained rational adults to protect schools
Hoplophobes Claim we said: Hand kindergardeners S&W 500's
**bonus points for this one as FARK Hypocrites (aka leftists) bashed the NRA when they called for it, yet ~4 days later when obmessiah called for it they fell to their knees in worship.**
 
2013-01-31 06:14:42 PM

ph0rk: These shootings were happening all along, they just get news coverage now because of the general level of public outrage.


iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.


Both of these statements can not be correct.
 
2013-01-31 06:15:54 PM
ambassador_ahab

>>>> AdolfOliverPanties: We need to arm all students.

only solution. The only thing that stops a a Bad Guy with a gun is a Good Guy with a gun.

Well we certainly have seen your plan to work. You wanted bad guys stopped by disarming responsible adults.
So what has stopped "Bad Guys with a gun"? A shiatload of children's bodies. But hey! Now you have the talking points you wanted, so ... Mission Accomplished!
 
2013-01-31 06:15:55 PM
I ban all of you
 
2013-01-31 06:16:04 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: 1478 since Sandy Hook.

Also, did you know that 40% of felons obtained their guns at gun shows where there are often no background checks? You are Soft on Crime if you don't support changing the law to change this.


If we can't trust a felon who has served their sentence (including any parole) then we probably shouldn't let them out of prison until we do.

Same with allowing them to vote.  Have any of these recent mass shooters had a criminal record when they committed their crimes?
 
2013-01-31 06:16:31 PM

OnlyM3: Gunowner say: Arm guards or trained rational adults to protect schools


I see. So you're just going to pretend that a bunch of gun nuts nationwide haven't called for the arming of teachers?
 
2013-01-31 06:17:36 PM
I don't understand folks who are surprised by the amount of school shootings when the media does such a bang-up job of publicizing it.  Almost glorifying it, in a way.  They make the shooter farking famous with all their reports, and to an ill mind, it could be telling them "this is the answer to my problems".  So another happens, the media hypes it, and the cycle continues.  Guns are a very small part of the problem.  What we should be concerned about is the abysmal work we've been doing in aiding those with mental health problems.  We must get better at detecting such ailments, and helping to treat them as soon as humanly possible.  And the media should stop farking hyping this shiat.
 
2013-01-31 06:18:39 PM
The news is saying its a flesh wound and the situation possibly evolved out of bullying. The question now is where'd the other kid get the gun? If it is his parents, they need to held accountable.

I had to change the channel - sick of seeing reporters jam microphones in kid's faces.
 
2013-01-31 06:19:14 PM
Who are the biggest threat to Americans: terrorists, or each other?

www.mindparts.org
 
2013-01-31 06:20:13 PM

Cornelius Dribble: ph0rk: These shootings were happening all along, they just get news coverage now because of the general level of public outrage.

iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Both of these statements can not be correct.


I feel what was ment; shootings in general were happening at the same frequency before; but went unreported on.

Where, I said; reporting causes copycats. It's been shown dozens of times that some people see a shooting on the news and seek to emulate that.
 
2013-01-31 06:20:15 PM

OnlyM3: AdolfOliverPanties

We need to arm all students. Wow, 3 whole posts before this tired old hyperbole.

Gunowner say: Right to Keep and Bear arms
Hoplophobes Claim we said: You want to own Nuclear weapons!

Gunowner say: Arm guards or trained rational adults to protect schools
Hoplophobes Claim we said: Hand kindergardeners S&W 500's
**bonus points for this one as FARK Hypocrites (aka leftists) bashed the NRA when they called for it, yet ~4 days later when obmessiah called for it they fell to their knees in worship.**




Mmm hmm.
 
2013-01-31 06:20:26 PM
AdolfOliverPanties

Not if you're not in favor of gun control. That shiat needs to be heavily regulated. Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.
We've seen you blame Reagan for the nation's mental health issues, yet you've had 8 years w/ clinton and 4+ with obama. If such a serious issue, why has your party chosen to ignore the issue? Waiting for the body count to get high enough?

So tel us oh enlightened one. How would a background check have stopped Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc...?
 
2013-01-31 06:20:34 PM
imgboot.com
 
2013-01-31 06:20:47 PM
Why does this keep happening?
 
2013-01-31 06:21:23 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: 1478 since Sandy Hook.

Also, did you know that 40% of felons obtained their guns at gun shows where there are often no background checks? You are Soft on Crime if you don't support changing the law to change this.


There was a study that showed that 40% of transfers of firearms didn't take place at a license dealer.  Of that 40%, over 30% was transfers to friends and family.  Furthermore, most of the dealers at gun shows are FFLs, and they will always run background checks, regardless of state.  At the shows I've been to (in a gun friendly state), 1-2% or so of the sellers weren't FFLs, and they sold a very, very small percentage of the guns.

I bought a gun as a gift for my wife to use in self defense.  That would be counted in the 40%, even though I passed a background check, and she could just fine.  I also traded a gun to a friend for another gun.  Despite adding no new guns, and the fact that both of us have CCWs (meaning we passed a more strict background check, including fingerprints), both guns would be included in the 40% as well.

There is no gun show loophole.
 
2013-01-31 06:21:51 PM
meanwhile, in the real world that is divorced from the ratings whoring 24/7 news channels:

violent crime is near record lows
http://news.discovery.com/human/violent-crime-statistics-120612.htm
 
2013-01-31 06:22:32 PM
Princess Ryans Knickers

1478 since Sandy Hook.

Also, did you know that 40% of felons obtained their guns at gun shows where there are often no background checks?

You need to phone in for new talking points. That lie was debunked weeks ago.
// not that the left has ever let little things like facts get in the way of their deranged ramblings.
 
2013-01-31 06:23:08 PM
If only there had been a policeman with a gun there, then he could have stopped this before it got out of hand!

"The suspect was disarmed and taken into custody by a school resource officer, according to Davis."


Oh...  Well, we should have laws against Middle School children owning guns!!!!
 
2013-01-31 06:24:06 PM

OnlyM3: **bonus points for this one as FARK Hypocrites (aka leftists) bashed the NRA when they called for it, yet ~4 days later when obmessiah called for it they fell to their knees in worship.**


I'm what you call a "leftist" (in reality I'm probably more of a centrist in a global perspective, but alas), I have no problem having armed police officers in schools.

Makes more sense than having teachers packing heat in the classroom.

But this should NOT be the only take away from these tragic events. That's what the "leftists" were trying to point out.
 
2013-01-31 06:24:22 PM

libranoelrose: Why does this keep happening?


A culture of war and gun worship.  Well, that's my take on it.  YMMV.
 
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