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2013-01-31 03:43:20 PM  
6 votes:
I'm quite satisfied with my LEGAL version of Windows 7 64-bit.  If Windows 8 was offered for free, I'd still say no.
2013-01-31 04:42:58 PM  
4 votes:
Microsoft, please stop treating a desktop PC like a mobile pad, and you'll win back the windows 95 to win 7 users.
You could have met us in the middle and kept the start bar, but you didn't.
You could have met us in the middle and not changed for change's sake, but you didn't.
Get back to computers, stop trying to rip off apple's own ripoffs, and be your nerdy accountant bad-boy self.
2013-01-31 08:11:14 PM  
3 votes:
Alright. I just upgraded and I must say, I'm a little miffed.

All these months of whinging and screeching about the interface and then I'm faced with this upon first load:

- Simple image showing how to active sidebar
- The dreaded tiles
- Click away a couple annoying rolling news ones
- DESKTOP tile appears
- Click on Desktop

Well fark me sideways. It's my same Win 7 desktop, complete with display fusion, Rainmeter and every other customization, shortcut, mapped drive, etc.

So, what was all the fuss about again?
2013-01-31 04:56:26 PM  
3 votes:
I will never get over the amazing, ignorance-fueled mass psychosis against this OS.
2013-01-31 03:31:45 PM  
3 votes:
My Windows 7 laptop is barely two years old. I'm not going to "upgrade" to 8 anytime soon, and by the time I do I'll bet they'll almost be ready to release Windows 10.

To that extent, $15-$40 is still more than I want to spend on Windows 8.
2013-01-31 09:07:08 PM  
2 votes:

wee: xanadian: Don't tell me they have "tiles" for a f*cking server OS... :/

/hasn't had the "fortune" to deal with Server 2012 yet

I've never used Windows 8, so I don't know if it's the same, but the UI looks like it was designed by a pack of half-blind, retarded monkeys recovering from crack and taught hide-and-seek in order to get their food pellets.


See, and this is what drives me nuts about Windows 8 bashers. The "UI" you're talking about isn't the primary UI. It's the damned Start screen. You don't need to use it.

THIS IS THE WINDOWS 8 USER INTERFACE:

cdn5.groovypost.com

The only difference is that you don't have a Start globe in the lower left. When you mouse over there, the Start Screen will become available to you if you click on it, and then you get this:

www.eightforums.com

And you can just start TYPING the name of an application here instead of picking one of those big icons. When you do that, the application you're looking for will pop up and you can run it directly, and yes, this applies to desktop programs and not just Windows 8 apps.

So if you want to find calculator, you can just type "calc" and it will pop up. Easy as pie.

If you really want the old Start menu back, so you can search for things the hard way, you can find many ways to get it for free if you do a Google search.

But most of the time, you'll be on that Desktop and never touch the Start Screen. When people cite the Start Screen as the reason they hate Windows 8, I know they haven't used it very long, if at all, because most of us on desktop systems have been ignoring it and using Windows 8 the EXACT SAME WAY we used Windows 7... Except that Windows 8 is faster and easier to Search in.
2013-01-31 08:24:25 PM  
2 votes:

Ed Finnerty: Alright. I just upgraded and I must say, I'm a little miffed.

All these months of whinging and screeching about the interface and then I'm faced with this upon first load:

- Simple image showing how to active sidebar
- The dreaded tiles
- Click away a couple annoying rolling news ones
- DESKTOP tile appears
- Click on Desktop

Well fark me sideways. It's my same Win 7 desktop, complete with display fusion, Rainmeter and every other customization, shortcut, mapped drive, etc.

So, what was all the fuss about again?



That's what those of us who upgraded at launch have been trying to tell people. It's Windows 7, but with a Start screen instead of a start menu. The ability to go to the Start screen and just start typing to bring up any app in the system is VERY handy, and a lot easier than hunting around on the old start menu for what you were looking for.

Otherwise, it's Windows 7, but slightly faster and (deep in the guts) more stable, with various streamlined updates to several things.

People hating on it have never used it beyond clicking around the Start screen for a while. They don't even mess with the rest of it-- They just play with Start and then freak out.

I've been happy with it. It works well.
2013-01-31 07:46:21 PM  
2 votes:
Love Windows 8. Besides the cheap price the fact no one has legitimately cracked its activation yet helped me to go legit too. Hunting down illegal KMS servers every 180 days is lame.

I love people are still regurgitating buzzword laced Windows 8 hat.e. "IT MAKES MY COMPUTER NOT USABLE!@# LOLOOL WIND)WS8SUX0rZ
2013-01-31 05:40:54 PM  
2 votes:
Eh... I'll stick with Win7 64bit... There is no compelling reason for me to switch to Win8.
2013-01-31 05:29:51 PM  
2 votes:
spacebison.com
Still free.
2013-01-31 05:14:58 PM  
2 votes:
I upgraded from XP to 8 with this offer and can strongly recommend it. As long as you also get Classic Shell (free) to give you back the Start button.

On my two year old dual core machine (I had upgraded the mobo and chip) it runs far faster and smother, has useful stuff like auto backup, handles dual monitors better and is (apparently) far more secure. I upgraded my second PC, and older one, last week and that runs better as well.

It's a great deal, which MS would not have had to do had they made Metro an option instead of trying to ram it down our throats.
2013-01-31 04:16:36 PM  
2 votes:

gopher321: I'm quite satisfied with my LEGAL version of Windows 7 64-bit.  If Windows 8 was offered for free, I'd still say no.


Same here.
2013-02-03 01:33:05 AM  
1 votes:

LesserEvil: Master Batorium: Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?

No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?

If you have actually ever used windows 8 then there is no way you can be saying this with a straight face especially because it is the same baseless ongoing continual rant that everyone who has never used windows 8 plasters all over the internet.

I'm on this windows 8 machine right now and EVERYTHING you are saying is wrong.

There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8. Either you are using it and you are extremely retarded or you are not using it. I think that you are not using it because your argument and everything your are saying about it is exactly the same as trying to argue that having 6 Mbps internet speeds is better than 20 Mbps speeds. It's just stupid and defies logic. It's embarrassing listening to people like you. It is frightening. The difference between junking my old Pinto and getting a Rolls Royce.

Get over it. Windows 8 is the best operating system in existence.

0/10

If he had said anything that wasn't, in fact, fac ...


Please. Stupid losers. Crying about and still calling it Metro. Get the fark over it. NOTHING he said was factual. Reading about it is tiresome and misleading.

Have you ever used anything in your life, absolutely loved it, and had to sit around watching people say shiat about it that is completely unfounded?

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?


What the hell does this even mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? This is ONE THOUSAND PERCENT WRONG. IF you haven't used the OS then just stop farking talking about it. If you have used the OS and you are talking like this and even backing up people who talk like this then you have some other kind of agenda and you FAIL to explain that agenda.

Right now I am rubbing the SMOOTHEST baby soft sexiest ass I have ever come across and you are telling me that I am scrapping my junk on sandpaper.

THAT is what this sounds like to me.
2013-02-02 08:06:15 PM  
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?

No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?


If you have actually ever used windows 8 then there is no way you can be saying this with a straight face especially because it is the same baseless ongoing continual rant that everyone who has never used windows 8 plasters all over the internet.

I'm on this windows 8 machine right now and EVERYTHING you are saying is wrong.

There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8. Either you are using it and you are extremely retarded or you are not using it. I think that you are not using it because your argument and everything your are saying about it is exactly the same as trying to argue that having 6 Mbps internet speeds is better than 20 Mbps speeds. It's just stupid and defies logic. It's embarrassing listening to people like you. It is frightening. The difference between junking my old Pinto and getting a Rolls Royce.

Get over it. Windows 8 is the best operating system in existence.
2013-02-01 11:37:45 AM  
1 votes:

LesserEvil: Windows 8 sucks.

It is not even as useful as DOS when it comes to  usability.


That video was painful... that guy spends ~20 minutes complaining about things he doesn't understand and ~3 minutes complaining about actual annoying parts of the OS. He needs to get his tech geek card revoked.
2013-02-01 10:03:55 AM  
1 votes:
Bought win 8 last night, ran the update.  Besides killing most of the live tiles that come as default, I only really notice two interesting things.  First, the text on the tabs in Firefox tends to get garbled for some reason.  Second, the games I run are giving me much higher frames per second for some reason.

I think I'll keep it.
2013-02-01 08:39:40 AM  
1 votes:
Also, yes there's some pretty great performance increases over Win7.  It's very nice having a laptop booted up and logged in within 30 seconds.

I don't see the point of upgrading to Win8 from 7 after the cheap upgrade option expires, though.   It doesn't offer that much to the end user at this point.   If (and it's a big if) Microsoft's app store really kicks off or you own a Win8 phone or tablet as well then it might be worth the upgrade, but it doesn't provide enough to the typical user to be worth it.
2013-02-01 02:56:16 AM  
1 votes:
I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.
2013-01-31 09:22:14 PM  
1 votes:
My crappy computer finally died last week so I bought a new one with win8. It took a while to figure out how to get it out of the stupid tablet mode and into a traditional desktop mode. There are other changes that kinda suck and things are moved around but I've made my peace with it.
I got home today and my wife asks where all the 'cooch shots' came from. I played dumb and she showed me the computer. When you look at pictures with the new image viewer it tiles random pics from your computer as a background. My porn stash is tastefully hidden several layers deep with file names that sound technical and system related and my wife is nearly computer illiterate so I never worried about it before. Thanks for busting me, Windows 8!
2013-01-31 08:03:53 PM  
1 votes:

seanpg71: alienated: Hell, it cost me 180, and i dont have to muck about just trying to lock the compy or turn it off. Really MSFT ? 7 clicks to power down ?

Where the heck are you going to do that?  Move the mouse to the lower right, then click "settings" when the charms bar pops up, click "power", then click "shut down".  It's maybe one more click than before, and if that's too much trouble you can probably just tap the power button on whatever you're using and that'll shutdown or sleep or hibernate or whatever.


Yeah, I don't give a shiat if Widows 8 fails but it's weird how much backlash comes from people who have clearly never used it.
2013-01-31 07:32:00 PM  
1 votes:
I built a htpc and put Windows 8 on it for several reasons I won't get into...

It's a little disappointing, aesthetically, jumping back and forth between Metro and the desktop but it's not the disaster people say.

That said I wouldn't recommend anyone upgrade to 8 from 7 mostly because I find 7 to be really solid and , why spend the money...
2013-01-31 07:26:02 PM  
1 votes:

SpaceBison: [spacebison.com image 130x135]
Still free.


Yeah, but if you're too dumb to figure out how to turn off Metro, you're too dumb to figure out how to turn off Unity. Maybe Mint?
2013-01-31 06:50:48 PM  
1 votes:
HeartBurnKid:

What's wrong with using it on a desktop?

You cannot boot directly to desktop mode
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the application launcher (Metro/Start Screen) in desktop mode (i.e. Start button or Windows flag button)
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the Charms bar
There is no indicator of what items in the Charms bar actually pertain to the app you're using
The application launcher that used to come up discreetly in the corner of the screen now takes up the full screen, breaking your workflow with no appreciable benefit
Tiles for installed apps are strewn haphazardly across Metro without rhyme or reason
The "Shut down" function is hopelessly obscured
Metro apps are nowhere near as simple to multitask as traditional Windows apps
Some desktop settings are only changeable through Metro
Some Metro settings are only changeable through the desktop

And that's just the obvious issues.


This is a good start. The biggest overarching message is that they've made a bunch of navigation changes that are completely non-intuitive. I took a friend - a former MS full time employee for 10+ years - to the store, showed her a demo laptop and asked her to do some simple things, like "Close this Window" and "Go back to the desktop" and she couldn't figure it out. This is someone who spent years living inside the Windows environment.

I recently made a business trip, and needed to connect to different wifi spots. The OS tried to handle the connection and failed every time. Each time I opened up an instance of Chrome and connected with no problem. I realize this is IE 10 compatibility issues, but they've made it look like part of the OS, so it makes it look like the OS is at fault. That's just sloppy.

And there's other strange behavior I can't really quantify. PDFs sometimes open in Acrobat, sometimes open in Metro, and sometimes won't open at all (in which case I open them in Chrome, which works fine.) There doesn't seem to be any clear reason for this. Lots of other apps have the same kind if inconsistency.

Somebody posted a link to a review of Office 2013 the other day that mentioned the problem with the controls being recolored to an 'unobtrusive' shade... which results in them being impossible to find. That's true of other controls inside Win8 as well.

Sure, the core OS is rock solid. It's all the shell decisions that make it annoying. And there isn't one single thing to point at, just a giant pile of "Why the hell did they do this?" I really hope they deploy a Win7 shell option soon.
2013-01-31 06:29:21 PM  
1 votes:

Intrepid00: likefunbutnot: unyon: I can't think for the life of me why I'd ever use RDP to access mail.

Perhaps there are some security requirements for maintaining site security such that mail has to stay local?
Maybe he works one of those places where people email each other 200MB .PPTs or CD .ISOs?

HatMadeOfAss: //Linux sucks, get over it

Linux is really great, actually. It's a Swiss army knife of free functionality. Yes, it sucks that documentation isn't centralized and there's no standard for interfaces or presentation, but a Linux system in the right hands can work tens of thousands of dollars worth of miracles with minimal prodding, too.

Windows = Autobots

Linux = Deceptiocons

Any idiot can fix and use Windows, even Bumble Bee. Linux though usually is overlay complicated and only that snarky asshole Rumble knows how it actually works.


Apple = Gobots?
2013-01-31 05:35:24 PM  
1 votes:

Intrepid00: amundb: Why would I pay $15-$40 to make my PC practically unusable?

Oh no, 90% of the OS is the same, it is faster, safer and has some really nice cloud integration but fark that the start menu changed that I barely used anyway on a desktop cause of pinning so it is unusable.


Does it blow your fragile mind that others may feel differently about something so subjective?
2013-01-31 05:32:00 PM  
1 votes:
$40. By today. Interesting proposition.

How much to just keep the bootleg copy of Windows 7?
How much additional for a bootleg copy of Windows 8, if there's ever a time when running Windows 8 seems like a good idea for some reason?
And what's the deadline on that?
2013-01-31 05:09:23 PM  
1 votes:
Windows 8 looks like its design is contrary to my needs.
I'm never owning a Mac. Ever.
Ubuntu has gone loony with the whole "Unity" interface.

I guess it's time to start looking around for a decent Linux distro again.
2013-01-31 05:04:28 PM  
1 votes:

xanadian: That assumes I'd want to "upgrade" to Windows 8 to begin with.


Windows 8 is the best version of Windows ever.

EVER.
2013-01-31 05:02:13 PM  
1 votes:

SJKebab: win8 noob question here.  If this OS has been designed to work well with tablets etc, does that mean that the OS has been streamlined a bit to run on lesser hardware?  Could it be a slight performance upgrade in return for the shiathouse UI?

/Still haven't even seen win8 in the wild.


Some people do see a slight improvement in boot times and general function on older hardware. It's not hugely different than 7, but if you need a legit key or want to come up from Vista or XP, I'd go for it. The Start Menu is really unobtrusive and not that big of a problem once you start using it overall.

pute kisses like a man: does going from windows 7 to 8 offer any advantage to video gaming?  right now windows 7 is able to use all the memory and whatever that's on my computer.


Well, Windows 8 didn't go backwards on supporting your RAM or anything, if that's what you mean. I game on it all of the time, and it all seems to work flawlessly, but I wouldn't upgrade from 7 to 8 for gaming needs. Not a huge performance difference.
2013-01-31 05:00:32 PM  
1 votes:

drjekel_mrhyde: HeartBurnKid: drjekel_mrhyde: [i.imgur.com image 530x413]
[i.imgur.com image 430x350]

I love how the argument for Windows 8 has now come down to "WELL YOU'RE JUST AFRAID OF CHANGE DURR~!"

It's an incremental upgrade at best, with a UI that's half-baked for tablets, and complete shiat for desktops, slathered on top.  Why would <I>anybody</I> want that kind of "change"?

What's wrong with using it on a desktop?


You cannot boot directly to desktop mode
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the application launcher (Metro/Start Screen) in desktop mode (i.e. Start button or Windows flag button)
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the Charms bar
There is no indicator of what items in the Charms bar actually pertain to the app you're using
The application launcher that used to come up discreetly in the corner of the screen now takes up the full screen, breaking your workflow with no appreciable benefit
Tiles for installed apps are strewn haphazardly across Metro without rhyme or reason
The "Shut down" function is hopelessly obscured
Metro apps are nowhere near as simple to multitask as traditional Windows apps
Some desktop settings are only changeable through Metro
Some Metro settings are only changeable through the desktop

And that's just the obvious issues.
2013-01-31 04:49:51 PM  
1 votes:

SDRR: mainstreet62: Windows 8 can suck my dick.

OK, so I must have missed that hot key combo, care to share?


hold alt ctrl and hit the keys 8====D~O. I think you need their extra keyboard though.
2013-01-31 04:47:10 PM  
1 votes:

NotARocketScientist: Too good to pass up.  Especially since Win8 Pro gives you the license to downgrade to Win7, or run it with client Hyper-V.

Looks like they found a way to boost Win8 sales figures


Here is a article on how to do it http://lifehacker.com/5974318/downgrade-your-new-windows-8-computer-t o -windows-7-for-free?utm_source=gawker.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm _campaign=recirculation
/Average users might not even care to do it
2013-01-31 04:36:52 PM  
1 votes:

mainstreet62: Windows 8 can suck my dick.


Well, that's a reason to upgrade.
2013-01-31 04:30:08 PM  
1 votes:

gopher321: I'm quite satisfied with my LEGAL version of Windows 7 64-bit.  If Windows 8 was offered for free, I'd still say no.


This.

Not even if they paid me.
2013-01-31 04:29:19 PM  
1 votes:
1. d/l bootleg Win7
2. pay $15 for Win8
3. "downgrade" to Win7
4. Win.

Win8 is a non-entity.  It serves no legitimate purpose whatsoever.
And if M$ had a brain in their heads, they would just charge $15 for their OS to begin with.  If they did, nobody would bootleg it and everyone would use it.
2013-01-31 03:42:08 PM  
1 votes:

Donnchadha: To that extent, $15-$40 is still more than I want to spend on Windows 8.


I recommended it to a friend not so much for Win8, but for the 'Pro' aspect.  She got a system with 32GB of RAM and only has Win7 Home on it.  Win7 Home only supports 16GB of RAM.  Pro also supports Remote Desktop, which is nice for me since I have a computer running my email fat client at the other end of the house.  I can remote into it and keep all my mail in the same place.  I am not at all a fan of the Metro UI, but as the headline says, this is a legal upgrade with an incredible amount of leeway as to what you're upgrading from.  I think it's also possible to legally upgrade from the free Consumer Release that came out last February:

To install the Windows 8 Pro upgrade, your PC must be running Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 Consumer Preview, or Windows 8 Release Preview. If your PC is running Windows 7, Windows 8 Consumer Preview, or Windows 8 Release Preview, your files, apps, and settings will easily transfer to Windows 8 Pro. If your PC is running Windows XP or Windows Vista, you'll need to reinstall your apps.

That was from my link which works if you copy the literal URL into a browser, but somehow seems to have been converted to an "update your browser" hyperlink.  Weird.
2013-01-31 03:39:39 PM  
1 votes:
I think the XP box I built a few months ago to play Fallout 3/NV wouldn't play those games under 8. At least not as well as it has been.
 
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