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2013-01-31 11:43:18 PM  
i857.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-31 11:45:32 PM  
Had a code for the $15 upgrade offer and used it to upgrade the Win 7 VM inside of Parallels on my iMac. The big issue I can see here is that the hot corners don't work that great when the VM is full screened because Parallels has it's own hot corners.
 
2013-02-01 12:12:34 AM  

DemonEater: I bought a laptop in October, and they're only giving me until the end of today to buy Win8 for $15.

Because, at least with 7, you can install clean from the upgrade disc if you know what you're doing.


You can with Windows 8 upgrade also... Burn ISO to USB and install as normal. It will still install on an empty drive even if it's an upgrade. Once installed and running you then change a single value in the registry from 0 to 1 and rearm the software licensing manager (C:\slmgr /rearm).. Reboot and your upgrade is now activated even though you installed it on an empty hard drive..
 
2013-02-01 12:24:02 AM  
I am not changing the OS on my ancient PC until it can play Final Fantasy VII again. Damn you, XP.
 
2013-02-01 12:27:06 AM  
You big jerk.  You had me worried.  I replaced the CPU on my PC and the auto windows 7 key registration doesn't work.

I don't feel like calling India.  My copy of 7 is legal but unregistered.  Virus schmirus.
 
2013-02-01 01:25:40 AM  

Lsherm: drjekel_mrhyde: You couldn't see that big arse tile that say desktop? What the hell did you do to have your pics show up as a background? I'm betting you added you porn folder to your personalization options

It can pull images from your pictures library unless you tell it not to.  If you save your pr0n to a folder that gets indexed as part of your "library" - onto your desktop it goes.


Something is wrong because my pictures don't show up as a background unless I put them there. I have tons of fark type pictures that I would never want anyone to see.

Try this: Control panel then click personalization then click (at the bottom) Desktop Backgrounds, click uncheck all and see what's highlighted in picture location
 
2013-02-01 02:04:18 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Lsherm: drjekel_mrhyde: You couldn't see that big arse tile that say desktop? What the hell did you do to have your pics show up as a background? I'm betting you added you porn folder to your personalization options

It can pull images from your pictures library unless you tell it not to.  If you save your pr0n to a folder that gets indexed as part of your "library" - onto your desktop it goes.

Something is wrong because my pictures don't show up as a background unless I put them there. I have tons of fark type pictures that I would never want anyone to see.

Try this: Control panel then click personalization then click (at the bottom) Desktop Backgrounds, click uncheck all and see what's highlighted in picture location


Nah, it's the default install of 8 offers the pictures folders as a slideshow desktop background if you set it for your pictures.  He answered a wrong question somewhere.
 
2013-02-01 02:19:38 AM  

Mcavity: MightyPez: xanadian: wee: As someone who was forced to spend an hour working with Windows Server 2012, don't farking bother.

Don't tell me they have "tiles" for a f*cking server OS... :/

/hasn't had the "fortune" to deal with Server 2012 yet

Here's the odd thing: They added Metro to server (stupid), but it's better implemented than Windows 8 (even more stupid). It's not as invasive as 8's Metro and doesn't trip me up nearly as much. It's still batshiat insane that they foisted it on server, though.


you want insane..
ponder this for a momnet..

Major componet of server 2012 is power shell.
Power shell is basicly a very powerfull scripting for command line.

so why are you putting a touch screen interface on a command line system?




Monitoring by less skilled.
 
2013-02-01 02:34:25 AM  

Lsherm: My dreams of running XP in a VM so I could run some old, old games that wouldn't work in compatibility mode were dashed because Microsoft doesn't include a virtual audio driver for VMs.


I know your pain, and I'm a retro-gaming fan. You can hold out hope that GoG.com gets around to releasing those titles - which does happen. Some titles work in DOSbox or in Xen/VirtualBox - which does have some support for Direct3D, or you can do what I did, which is just assemble a system specifically for retro gaming on Windows 98.

I suggest the following:

* Some kind of late-model Pentium 4
Why a Pentium 4? Because you can still find new-in-box LGA775 motherboards that work with them. NIB AMD boards are super hard to find and have tons of driver weirdness. My system is built on an Intel board with an 865 chipset as I recall.

* 160GB hard drive. Technically, you can make Windows 98 work with bigger drives, but it's a hassle and you won't need that much space for games that old. Just for giggles I put an old SSD in mine. Yes, you can make a SATA drive work in Win98.

* 1GB RAM. Win98 won't use even that much. Whatever.

* nVidia 6x00 (probably a 6800) or ATI x800 or x850. These are the fastest cards that had official drivers from their manufacturers. Yes, PCIe graphics will work in Winodws 98. I suggest cleaning and oiling the fan assembly when you build the rig. It's not like those cards are easy to come by. My system has a Radeon 9800.

* Creative AWE64. They're super-common and very well supported by games. From a retro-gaming standpoint, all the extra MIDI voices and sound banks are handy.

If you're retro-gaming, you're better off with Win98 because there are games that barf if they detect that you're running on NT, and you always have the option to drop back to DOS for even more retro stuff. There is a huge challenge in finding working internet software and there's really no reason to bother with security software. Honestly, it's probably not worth the hassle to put that system online, but if you're a masochist, Firefox 2.0 will run on 98.
 
2013-02-01 02:48:08 AM  

Mcavity: ponder this for a momnet..

Major componet of server 2012 is power shell.
Power shell is basicly a very powerfull scripting for command line.

so why are you putting a touch screen interface on a command line system?


1. You almost never see the start screen even on typical client systems once you get the Desktop set to your liking. If you don't know how to pin an app to the taskbar by now I'm sorry for all the ways your parents and teachers failed you.
2. The Glyphs on the lock screen and/or Live Tiles could be made super-handy for basic monitoring. Right now they aren't used that way, but there's nothing stopping somebody from making that software.
3. On the couple Server 2012 systems I have, my RAID monitor pops me to the Desktop the second I log in anyway. I don't even have to click the desktop tile. I've never run a Metro app on Server 2012, but I could see wanting one for something like log analysis. What's wrong with having that option?
4. I'm also fully capable of administering a *nix system entirely from a command line, but if CDE or Afterstep or GNOME happens to be present it's not like I'm going to get upset about it. It's not a challenge to my manhood to use a pointing device.
 
2013-02-01 02:56:16 AM  
I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.
 
2013-02-01 05:42:13 AM  

meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.


Captain Obvious, welcome to the party son!  Now please, don't put your dick in the mash potatoes.
 
2013-02-01 06:52:55 AM  
nope
 
2013-02-01 07:07:02 AM  

likefunbutnot: Lsherm: My dreams of running XP in a VM so I could run some old, old games that wouldn't work in compatibility mode were dashed because Microsoft doesn't include a virtual audio driver for VMs.

I know your pain, and I'm a retro-gaming fan. You can hold out hope that GoG.com gets around to releasing those titles - which does happen. Some titles work in DOSbox or in Xen/VirtualBox - which does have some support for Direct3D, or you can do what I did, which is just assemble a system specifically for retro gaming on Windows 98.

I suggest the following:

* Some kind of late-model Pentium 4
Why a Pentium 4? Because you can still find new-in-box LGA775 motherboards that work with them. NIB AMD boards are super hard to find and have tons of driver weirdness. My system is built on an Intel board with an 865 chipset as I recall.

* 160GB hard drive. Technically, you can make Windows 98 work with bigger drives, but it's a hassle and you won't need that much space for games that old. Just for giggles I put an old SSD in mine. Yes, you can make a SATA drive work in Win98.

* 1GB RAM. Win98 won't use even that much. Whatever.

* nVidia 6x00 (probably a 6800) or ATI x800 or x850. These are the fastest cards that had official drivers from their manufacturers. Yes, PCIe graphics will work in Winodws 98. I suggest cleaning and oiling the fan assembly when you build the rig. It's not like those cards are easy to come by. My system has a Radeon 9800.

* Creative AWE64. They're super-common and very well supported by games. From a retro-gaming standpoint, all the extra MIDI voices and sound banks are handy.

If you're retro-gaming, you're better off with Win98 because there are games that barf if they detect that you're running on NT, and you always have the option to drop back to DOS for even more retro stuff. There is a huge challenge in finding working internet software and there's really no reason to bother with security software. Honestly, it's probably not worth the hassle to pu ...


This is pretty much what I have done - the wife and I both like retro games, so I set up a couple of old Dells with 500 & 700 mhz PIII chips, 512mb ram, and Sound Blasters and old nVidia AGP cards. Old Tombraider games, Lego Racers, Doom & Doom II, Duke3D - all the old Dos-era games play much better than I have ever been able to get them to perform on emulators. And they cost me nothing - the computers were discarded or given to me, and the parts were old leftovers. And getting them on the net is no problem - Firefox 2.0 will still render enough sites that you can D/L savegames or patches or whatever limited Internet stuff you need on a gaming box.
 
2013-02-01 07:55:23 AM  

BumpInTheNight: meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.

Captain Obvious, welcome to the party son!  Now please, don't put your dick in the mash potatoes.


sorry, i don't live on the internet.  i hope you'll be alright
 
2013-02-01 08:34:48 AM  
Here's the odd thing: They added Metro to server (stupid), but it's better implemented than Windows 8 (even more stupid). It's not as invasive as 8's Metro and doesn't trip me up nearly as much. It's still batshiat insane that they foisted it on server, though.

My guess is it's for remote access users.    I mean, the ability to remote manage a server using a tablet is pretty awesome (though not sure how practical it actually is.)

Bought a laptop in December that came with Win8 and it's fine once you get used to its UI quirks.  Most of the OS works well and I've only used two metro apps :iHeartRadio (since only the Metro version seems to work in Canada without fiddling with proxies) and Skulls of the Shogun (which is a pretty great game though sadly Win8/360/Windows Phone exclusive.)
 
2013-02-01 08:39:40 AM  
Also, yes there's some pretty great performance increases over Win7.  It's very nice having a laptop booted up and logged in within 30 seconds.

I don't see the point of upgrading to Win8 from 7 after the cheap upgrade option expires, though.   It doesn't offer that much to the end user at this point.   If (and it's a big if) Microsoft's app store really kicks off or you own a Win8 phone or tablet as well then it might be worth the upgrade, but it doesn't provide enough to the typical user to be worth it.
 
2013-02-01 09:11:58 AM  
I am not going to upgrade to windows 8 even if Microsoft PAYS ME $15-$40.
 
2013-02-01 09:44:13 AM  

meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.


I'm running it.  It doesn't suck, but it's not really a compelling upgrade, either.  And the new UI is not good by any objective standard UNLESS you are running it on a touchscreen/tablet.

So for the vast majority of MS's existing customers, Win8 is not worth an upgrade, even for $40.
 
2013-02-01 09:49:32 AM  

discgolfguru: I am not changing the OS on my ancient PC until it can play Final Fantasy VII again. Damn you, XP.


Not sure if you realize this, but they did a rerelease that works on modern systems.
 
2013-02-01 10:03:55 AM  
Bought win 8 last night, ran the update.  Besides killing most of the live tiles that come as default, I only really notice two interesting things.  First, the text on the tabs in Firefox tends to get garbled for some reason.  Second, the games I run are giving me much higher frames per second for some reason.

I think I'll keep it.
 
2013-02-01 10:17:05 AM  

cretinbob: pass


That pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
 
2013-02-01 10:43:40 AM  
Keechrist. Not even on a bet. It's been available for a while now, and it's draggy piece of sh*t I won't install on any system.
 
2013-02-01 11:37:45 AM  

LesserEvil: Windows 8 sucks.

It is not even as useful as DOS when it comes to  usability.


That video was painful... that guy spends ~20 minutes complaining about things he doesn't understand and ~3 minutes complaining about actual annoying parts of the OS. He needs to get his tech geek card revoked.
 
2013-02-01 01:29:29 PM  

MikeSass: 1. d/l bootleg Win7
2. pay $15 for Win8
3. "downgrade" to Win7
4. Win.

Win8 is a non-entity.  It serves no legitimate purpose whatsoever.
And if M$ had a brain in their heads, they would just charge $15 for their OS to begin with.  If they did, nobody would bootleg it and everyone would use it.


My son's computer has a bootleg Win7 cause I hate Vista quite a bit(figured if I ran into trouble I could always reinstall vista)

Do you know if I would actually have to download Win8 or if I just go through the process, lie about the purchase date, and activate the new key on the 7 machine if that would work?
 
2013-02-01 02:42:40 PM  

dmars: MikeSass: 1. d/l bootleg Win7
2. pay $15 for Win8
3. "downgrade" to Win7
4. Win.

Win8 is a non-entity.  It serves no legitimate purpose whatsoever.
And if M$ had a brain in their heads, they would just charge $15 for their OS to begin with.  If they did, nobody would bootleg it and everyone would use it.

My son's computer has a bootleg Win7 cause I hate Vista quite a bit(figured if I ran into trouble I could always reinstall vista)

Do you know if I would actually have to download Win8 or if I just go through the process, lie about the purchase date, and activate the new key on the 7 machine if that would work?


It doesn't come with the $40 upgrade license, and to make it work you need an existing Windows 7 DVD AND key.  Once you install Windows 7, you can call Microsoft and they will activate your Windows 7 installation with the Windows 8 key you give them over the phone.
 
2013-02-01 03:10:00 PM  
Because it's been so well received at that low price point, clearly it can bear a much higher price tag.
 
2013-02-01 03:18:42 PM  

ZeroCorpse: That link pretty much speaks for itself. All you need is a shortcut to shutdown /s /t 0


Or, you know, they could have not been complete knobgobblers, and just included a shutdown button.
 
2013-02-01 03:55:27 PM  
I'm in the IT field, so I have it and have toyed around with it. However, I still primarily use Win7 and Lion, as that is what 98% of the company is running.
 
2013-02-01 04:04:57 PM  

dmars: Do you know if I would actually have to download Win8 or if I just go through the process, lie about the purchase date, and activate the new key on the 7 machine if that would work?


An "upgrade" install of Windows 8 is functionally identical to a full install disc, except for the legal fiction necessary to use it. Windows XP and Vista can be "upgraded" to 8 by means of a completely fresh install. Windows 7 users are given a choice to have a fresh install or to retain their programs and user settings with an actual upgrade.
 
2013-02-01 04:08:37 PM  

meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.


I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8.
 
2013-02-01 04:21:04 PM  

simplicimus: mainstreet62: Windows 8 can suck my dick.

Well, that's a reason to upgrade.


$15-40 is a deal if it can do that!
 
2013-02-01 04:21:33 PM  

leviosaurus: meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.

I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8.


There's a lot of contrarians on fark who exist only to go against the right opinion, regardless of how silly they look.
 
2013-02-01 05:19:21 PM  

leviosaurus: I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8


Win8 has one single real problem: Metro on non-tablets

Under the hood, it's Win7 with optimizations - it boots faster, the kernel is apparently even more stable, it's a set of incremental improvements.

But Metro makes it so frustrating to use that everyone hates the hell out of it.  I know that's why I'm not picking it up just yet.  Plus I hate touch-screen interfaces, because I don't want finger smears all over my damn monitor.
 
2013-02-01 06:16:45 PM  
i'll just stick with win 7 and daz loader
 
2013-02-01 06:46:11 PM  
My desktop was running XP, and I have some experience with Windows 7.

I upgraded to Windows 8 Pro last night. I have no idea what the hate is about. Once you're in desktop mode, everything is nearly exactly the same. It's just as snappy as Windows 7, and obviously much moreso than XP. No lag with basic commands, installations, opening files. The search function is absurdly fast. The live tiles thing is gimmicky(I'm sure it's much better on phones and tablets), but really, I don't care about that at all. I actually feel like the experience is cleaner and more streamlined than previous versions of Windows.

I'm about to run a few games and see what the effect is. My suspicion is that nothing will change.
 
2013-02-01 06:59:56 PM  

Ed Finnerty: I just bit.

I'll play around with it on a secondary machine. My primary machine will stay on 7 for the foreseeable future.

/Mostly for FO3 and some other games that seem to have issues


Have fun changing BACK to a previous version on that secondary machine. UEFI FTW.

Windows 8 will not allow you to boot from an optical drive or USB drive (other than the windows 8 DVD) unless you follow a long list of steps to disable their UEFI secure boot "feature". I just started a "downgrade" on a new Dell computer, and these are the steps I had to follow just to get the computer to boot from the Windows 7 DVD...

Press Windows key + W
Click "Settings"
Click "Change PC Settings"
Click "General"
Click "Advanced Start-up"
Click "Restart Now"
Click "Troubleshoot"
Click "Advanced Options"
Click "UEFI Firmware Settings"
Click "Restart"
This will actually allow you to get into the BIOS

In BIOS...
Go to either the "Advanced" tab or the "Boot" tab (depends on the computer)
Change "Secure Boot" to "Disabled"
If present, change "LaunchCSM" to "Always"
Set the first Boot Device to either "DVD" or "ODD" (whichever is there)
If present, set "Fast Boot" to "Disabled"
Exit and Save Changes

Only after all of this will it allow you to boot from a non-"secure boot" CD or DVD (or even USB, I think).

After all that, I discovered that the Windows 7 DVD Dell sent us doesn't have drivers for the integrated network card, so I'm having to download those from the Dell website on another computer and transfer them via USB flash drive... and now that I think about it, I hope THAT works.
 
2013-02-01 07:29:33 PM  

Gig103: syrynxx: Too good to pass up.  Especially since Win8 Pro gives you the license to downgrade to Win7, or run it with client Hyper-V.  I think the upgrade option even worked from the free consumer preview version of Win8.

How does that work? Do you need to install 8 and then downgrade or is it possible to install off my Win7 Pro DVD and then use the Win8 Pro license?


I haven't done this with a Windows 8 -> 7 downgrade, but I've sold many PCs with the Windows 7 -> XP downgrade.

How it works is you use another copy of the installer. MS says it must be a legal copy, but copies from the Pirate Bay work just fine. You install it, and put in whatever license key you want. If it activates, no worries. If it doesn't activate, you call MS activation, and talk to a rep. You tell them that you're exercising your downgrade rights. They get your license key for the product that you're downgrading, and then give you a key to manually activate the older copy of Windows.

It's pretty sketchy, and MS highly discourages it. But a lot of companies are willing to pay a good amount for this, especially since the big sellers don't offer it any more. MS tolerates it because it's keeping a lot of businesses from looking for alternative OSes, for the time being.
 
2013-02-01 07:47:16 PM  

leviosaurus: meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.

I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8.


I upgraded from XP and think it's great, as long as I have Classic Shell installed. Does that count?

/Bought W8 for my main PC, my second PC and my netbook. Classic Shell on all of them.
 
2013-02-02 01:45:41 PM  

Mad_Radhu: HeartBurnKid: The "Shut down" function is hopelessly obscured

I agree with almost all of your criticisms, but I have to say that the Shut Down button really doesn't need to be prominent in any modern OS. Outside of OS upgrades or long-term storage, there is no reason to shut down a modern PC, especially considering how well Win 8 sleeps/hibernates compared to older versions. Even on Windows 7, a full shutdown/restart is something that I only do when required by an app. The rest of the time, I just use sleep mode.


I don't really care what you think, if  I want to shut down the computer I want to be able to shut down the computer.

Thank you.
 
2013-02-02 05:08:00 PM  

Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.

I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8.

I upgraded from XP and think it's great, as long as I have Classic Shell installed. Does that count?

/Bought W8 for my main PC, my second PC and my netbook. Classic Shell on all of them.


I'm running classic shell on everything, too. I also use Chrome to get around all of the IE10 compatibility issues. The authorization model on Win8 is a pile of confusion, so if you need to use multiple accounts you never really know which skydrive you're saving into. I get around that by using Google Drive.

Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?
 
2013-02-02 06:32:39 PM  

leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?


No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?
 
2013-02-02 08:06:15 PM  

Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?

No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?


If you have actually ever used windows 8 then there is no way you can be saying this with a straight face especially because it is the same baseless ongoing continual rant that everyone who has never used windows 8 plasters all over the internet.

I'm on this windows 8 machine right now and EVERYTHING you are saying is wrong.

There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8. Either you are using it and you are extremely retarded or you are not using it. I think that you are not using it because your argument and everything your are saying about it is exactly the same as trying to argue that having 6 Mbps internet speeds is better than 20 Mbps speeds. It's just stupid and defies logic. It's embarrassing listening to people like you. It is frightening. The difference between junking my old Pinto and getting a Rolls Royce.

Get over it. Windows 8 is the best operating system in existence.
 
2013-02-03 12:36:26 AM  

Master Batorium: Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?

No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?

If you have actually ever used windows 8 then there is no way you can be saying this with a straight face especially because it is the same baseless ongoing continual rant that everyone who has never used windows 8 plasters all over the internet.

I'm on this windows 8 machine right now and EVERYTHING you are saying is wrong.

There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8. Either you are using it and you are extremely retarded or you are not using it. I think that you are not using it because your argument and everything your are saying about it is exactly the same as trying to argue that having 6 Mbps internet speeds is better than 20 Mbps speeds. It's just stupid and defies logic. It's embarrassing listening to people like you. It is frightening. The difference between junking my old Pinto and getting a Rolls Royce.

Get over it. Windows 8 is the best operating system in existence.


0/10

If he had said anything that wasn't, in fact, factual, you might have had a shot.
 
2013-02-03 01:33:05 AM  

LesserEvil: Master Batorium: Flint Ironstag: leviosaurus: Notice a pattern? Win8's problems are solvable if you download external apps, frequently from Microsoft's competitors. Win8 is literally driving me (and the people I advise) away from Microsoft. Does that really sound like good design to you?

No. The core OS of W8 is great but they screwed the pooch in trying to ram the Metro touchscreen interface down our throats.  I'm convinced that had they made Metro an option and kept the Desktop interface familiar to XP/W7 users then W8 would have been a hit and had huge positive press. A "future proof" Windows. A tablet and touchscreen ready OS that would make it easy for you to swap between your desktop and your tablet computers.

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?

If you have actually ever used windows 8 then there is no way you can be saying this with a straight face especially because it is the same baseless ongoing continual rant that everyone who has never used windows 8 plasters all over the internet.

I'm on this windows 8 machine right now and EVERYTHING you are saying is wrong.

There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8. Either you are using it and you are extremely retarded or you are not using it. I think that you are not using it because your argument and everything your are saying about it is exactly the same as trying to argue that having 6 Mbps internet speeds is better than 20 Mbps speeds. It's just stupid and defies logic. It's embarrassing listening to people like you. It is frightening. The difference between junking my old Pinto and getting a Rolls Royce.

Get over it. Windows 8 is the best operating system in existence.

0/10

If he had said anything that wasn't, in fact, fac ...


Please. Stupid losers. Crying about and still calling it Metro. Get the fark over it. NOTHING he said was factual. Reading about it is tiresome and misleading.

Have you ever used anything in your life, absolutely loved it, and had to sit around watching people say shiat about it that is completely unfounded?

But they didn't. They removed Desktop functionality and forced people to use Metro, find controls literally hidden from view or learn non-intuitive keyboard shortcuts. Like buying a car to find they've hidden the ignition key in the glove box. Sure, you can find it and get used to it. But why should you?


What the hell does this even mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? This is ONE THOUSAND PERCENT WRONG. IF you haven't used the OS then just stop farking talking about it. If you have used the OS and you are talking like this and even backing up people who talk like this then you have some other kind of agenda and you FAIL to explain that agenda.

Right now I am rubbing the SMOOTHEST baby soft sexiest ass I have ever come across and you are telling me that I am scrapping my junk on sandpaper.

THAT is what this sounds like to me.
 
2013-02-03 03:32:57 AM  

Mad_Radhu: HeartBurnKid: The "Shut down" function is hopelessly obscured

I agree with almost all of your criticisms, but I have to say that the Shut Down button really doesn't need to be prominent in any modern OS. Outside of OS upgrades or long-term storage, there is no reason to shut down a modern PC, especially considering how well Win 8 sleeps/hibernates compared to older versions. Even on Windows 7, a full shutdown/restart is something that I only do when required by an app. The rest of the time, I just use sleep mode.


This is what cheerleading Win8 by fanboys has come to: arguing you that shouldn't turn a computer off because the new OS is really shiatty about how you have to do it.

Sleep still drains the battery.  More importantly, even if you want the computer to go to sleep, you have to go through the same convoluted process to get to the power option.  Sure, you can use your power button on your machine, but what if you want to hibernate instead?  Oh, click, click, click.
 
2013-02-03 06:57:38 AM  

BumpInTheNight: leviosaurus: meatofmystery: I see this thread didn't lack in people knocking down something they admittedly haven't even tried. Just riding the wave of "Windows 8 sucks" b/c it's the cool thing to do now.

I'm honestly surprised to see so many people white knighting Win8.

There's a lot of contrarians on fark who exist only to go against the right opinion, regardless of how silly they look.


Nonsense.

/Windows ME 4 life
 
2013-02-03 11:17:06 AM  

Master Batorium: There is no way in hell that you have ever used windows 8.



My desktop.  http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8363/desktopvxa.jpg

Dual monitor setup. Note Classic Shell Start button right where the start button should be. The picture is my girlfriend. You wouldn't know her, she's Canadian.


/Okay, it's Summer Glau.
//Windows 8 on two PCs and my netbook.
 
2013-02-04 03:06:53 AM  

Flint Ironstag: My desktop. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8363/desktopvxa.jpg


If you turn off Classic Shell, what happens on a dual monitor setup if you hit the Windows key? Metro over both? And if you are in Metro, does it still limit you to only two apps split? Is there a way to not use the entire height of the screen if you don't want to?

These are serious questions by the way, things I wonder since no in-store demo has dual monitors.
 
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