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2013-01-31 06:54:59 PM  
shanrick:I just downloaded this. It works great. I can't wait to


Let it suck your dick?
Get your shill bonus from Microsoft?
Chuck your computer out the window?
Downgrade to Win 7 so you can finish your sentence?

Don't leave us in suspense.
 
2013-01-31 06:57:11 PM  

BumpInTheNight: likefunbutnot: syrynxx: client Hyper-V

Just a little note about that: Win8's own HyperV implementation has some particular CPU requirements associated with it, such that it won't run on any pre-Core i CPU or any CPU from Intel that's branded as a Pentium or Celeron, and support on AMD is also kind of random and spotty.

If you want to run Windows 8 in a VM, you need to be up to date with whatever hypervisor you're actually using because of some new stuff in the boot code. Stupid Windows 8 made me upgrade an ESXi machine last week. Grumble grumble.

It did?  Like just patching ESXi 5.0 or going up to 5.1?  Because I'm pretty sure I've got some Win8s on an ESXi 5.0 and I just inherently keep those boys patched.


I'm wondering why why any one would want to use a Microsoft hyper-v. Seriously, why?
 
2013-01-31 07:12:53 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: GreenAdder: HatMadeOfAss: //Linux sucks; get over it.

It really doesn't. A comma should not be used to join two independent thoughts unless there's a conjunction of some sort.

Does the semicolon make you feel better?  And why did you stop at the comma?  I forgot a period at the end, as well.  English majors the world over can breathe easier now that they know you're here to stick up for the poor, defenseless written language.

/And Linux does suck.
//Hard!


i18.photobucket.com
 
wee
2013-01-31 07:13:43 PM  

xanadian: Don't tell me they have "tiles" for a f*cking server OS... :/

/hasn't had the "fortune" to deal with Server 2012 yet


I've never used Windows 8, so I don't know if it's the same, but the UI looks like it was designed by a pack of half-blind, retarded monkeys recovering from crack and taught hide-and-seek in order to get their food pellets.
 
2013-01-31 07:22:14 PM  
I just bit.

I'll play around with it on a secondary machine. My primary machine will stay on 7 for the foreseeable future.

/Mostly for FO3 and some other games that seem to have issues
 
2013-01-31 07:22:51 PM  

likefunbutnot: unyon: Good effort, but I'm not buying either of those as possibilities.

Maybe he does not want to submit his personal mobile device to enterprise administration.
Or his work doesn't have a transport mechanism set up that lets him import their in-house SSL certs.
Or he's not licensed to use the same email client at home that he uses at work.

I can keep going. I'm not necessarily saying these are GOOD reasons, but syrynxx is generally clueful and I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that it's justifiable.


I wasn't suggesting cluelessness, I'm legitimately interested in the business case.  Its not going to be a mobile device, since he wouldn't need Win8 for that.  It's unlikely to be the second, since it sounds like the system that he's remoting into is also a personal system, which presumably would have had the same cert issues.  The last one is a possibility, especially if it is a non-Outlook client.  It's a pretty rare Exchange setup that doesn't have OWA or its current variants available.  I can't think of any alternate or legacy clients where that would probably be the case, either.  I'll admit that this last one is a possibility, but I can think of at least 3 ways that that is a solvable issue that don't require RDP.

To be honest, I was also fishing for more detail because I'm pretty sure that bright minds like yours and likefunbut not might be able to offer a more elegant solution.
 
2013-01-31 07:26:02 PM  

SpaceBison: [spacebison.com image 130x135]
Still free.


Yeah, but if you're too dumb to figure out how to turn off Metro, you're too dumb to figure out how to turn off Unity. Maybe Mint?
 
2013-01-31 07:27:44 PM  
You could do that subby, but then you have two problems.
 
2013-01-31 07:32:00 PM  
I built a htpc and put Windows 8 on it for several reasons I won't get into...

It's a little disappointing, aesthetically, jumping back and forth between Metro and the desktop but it's not the disaster people say.

That said I wouldn't recommend anyone upgrade to 8 from 7 mostly because I find 7 to be really solid and , why spend the money...
 
2013-01-31 07:33:38 PM  
new business model: if no one is buying your product, raise the price drastically.

nothing could possibly go wrong
 
2013-01-31 07:39:58 PM  
Im sticking with 7x64 pro. Hell, it cost me 180, and i dont have to muck about just trying to lock the compy or turn it off. Really MSFT ? 7 clicks to power down ?
 
2013-01-31 07:43:37 PM  
Microsoft releases crappy, over-priced operating system.  STILL ALIVE
 
2013-01-31 07:46:21 PM  
Love Windows 8. Besides the cheap price the fact no one has legitimately cracked its activation yet helped me to go legit too. Hunting down illegal KMS servers every 180 days is lame.

I love people are still regurgitating buzzword laced Windows 8 hat.e. "IT MAKES MY COMPUTER NOT USABLE!@# LOLOOL WIND)WS8SUX0rZ
 
2013-01-31 07:46:38 PM  
If I had a touch screen on either my laptop or either of my desktop monitors, I would definitely do this, but as it is, Win7 is good enough for now.

I know it's the cool think to knock Win 8 right now, but it is actually pretty good from what I I've done with it, I just don't need a new PC now, and both my current systems are fine with Win7.
 
2013-01-31 07:51:14 PM  

alienated: Im sticking with 7x64 pro. Hell, it cost me 180, and i dont have to muck about just trying to lock the compy or turn it off. Really MSFT ? 7 clicks to power down ?


It's actually only 3 but you can also have a 12 inch dick if you start taking measurements from your asshole
 
2013-01-31 07:51:24 PM  

sammyk: I'm wondering why why any one would want to use a Microsoft hyper-v. Seriously, why?


Server-side, there's a very easy path to Microsoft's virtual desktop infrastructure, which is pretty nifty if you're into that sort of thing. It's also pretty easy to script and manage stuff with Powershell  rather than having to shell out for Vsphere or having to find a roll-your-own solution for damned near everything with ESXi.

Client side, Virtual PC files are smaller than VMware's. XP Mode is a free client license for virtualization purposes and client-installed apps are published transparently to your main Windows desktop so that end users don't have to know they're using a VM.
 
2013-01-31 07:54:50 PM  
The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).


media.comicvine.com
 
2013-01-31 07:57:04 PM  

jso2897: HatMadeOfAss: GreenAdder: HatMadeOfAss: //Linux sucks; get over it.

It really doesn't. A comma should not be used to join two independent thoughts unless there's a conjunction of some sort.

Does the semicolon make you feel better?  And why did you stop at the comma?  I forgot a period at the end, as well.  English majors the world over can breathe easier now that they know you're here to stick up for the poor, defenseless written language.

/And Linux does suck.
//Hard!

[i18.photobucket.com image 400x353]


Something, something, your mother's a whore.

/She may not be
//But probably is
 
2013-01-31 07:58:06 PM  

alienated: Hell, it cost me 180, and i dont have to muck about just trying to lock the compy or turn it off. Really MSFT ? 7 clicks to power down ?


Where the heck are you going to do that?  Move the mouse to the lower right, then click "settings" when the charms bar pops up, click "power", then click "shut down".  It's maybe one more click than before, and if that's too much trouble you can probably just tap the power button on whatever you're using and that'll shutdown or sleep or hibernate or whatever.
 
2013-01-31 08:03:53 PM  

seanpg71: alienated: Hell, it cost me 180, and i dont have to muck about just trying to lock the compy or turn it off. Really MSFT ? 7 clicks to power down ?

Where the heck are you going to do that?  Move the mouse to the lower right, then click "settings" when the charms bar pops up, click "power", then click "shut down".  It's maybe one more click than before, and if that's too much trouble you can probably just tap the power button on whatever you're using and that'll shutdown or sleep or hibernate or whatever.


Yeah, I don't give a shiat if Widows 8 fails but it's weird how much backlash comes from people who have clearly never used it.
 
2013-01-31 08:11:14 PM  
Alright. I just upgraded and I must say, I'm a little miffed.

All these months of whinging and screeching about the interface and then I'm faced with this upon first load:

- Simple image showing how to active sidebar
- The dreaded tiles
- Click away a couple annoying rolling news ones
- DESKTOP tile appears
- Click on Desktop

Well fark me sideways. It's my same Win 7 desktop, complete with display fusion, Rainmeter and every other customization, shortcut, mapped drive, etc.

So, what was all the fuss about again?
 
2013-01-31 08:13:26 PM  

simplicimus: mainstreet62: Windows 8 can suck my dick.

Well, that's a reason to upgrade.


I've been laughing for 5 minutes at that...thanks.
 
2013-01-31 08:13:34 PM  
*activate
 
2013-01-31 08:14:59 PM  
A, um, person I heard about allegedly had a bootleg copy of W7 on his computer and he downloaded W8 for $40 and when it was finished installing it said:
Windows was not successfully installed, restoring back to the way it was.

And when I rebooted it was back to W7, but now it was a legitimate version, no more nag screens.
Oh, wait, I meant someone I know PRANK CALL!!! PRANK CALL!!! *click*
 
2013-01-31 08:16:22 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: shanrick:I just downloaded this. It works great. I can't wait to


Let it suck your dick?
Get your shill bonus from Microsoft?
Chuck your computer out the window?
Downgrade to Win 7 so you can finish your sentence?

Don't leave us in suspense.


are you flirting with me?
 
2013-01-31 08:22:39 PM  
Not if they paid me.
 
2013-01-31 08:24:25 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Alright. I just upgraded and I must say, I'm a little miffed.

All these months of whinging and screeching about the interface and then I'm faced with this upon first load:

- Simple image showing how to active sidebar
- The dreaded tiles
- Click away a couple annoying rolling news ones
- DESKTOP tile appears
- Click on Desktop

Well fark me sideways. It's my same Win 7 desktop, complete with display fusion, Rainmeter and every other customization, shortcut, mapped drive, etc.

So, what was all the fuss about again?



That's what those of us who upgraded at launch have been trying to tell people. It's Windows 7, but with a Start screen instead of a start menu. The ability to go to the Start screen and just start typing to bring up any app in the system is VERY handy, and a lot easier than hunting around on the old start menu for what you were looking for.

Otherwise, it's Windows 7, but slightly faster and (deep in the guts) more stable, with various streamlined updates to several things.

People hating on it have never used it beyond clicking around the Start screen for a while. They don't even mess with the rest of it-- They just play with Start and then freak out.

I've been happy with it. It works well.
 
2013-01-31 09:07:08 PM  

wee: xanadian: Don't tell me they have "tiles" for a f*cking server OS... :/

/hasn't had the "fortune" to deal with Server 2012 yet

I've never used Windows 8, so I don't know if it's the same, but the UI looks like it was designed by a pack of half-blind, retarded monkeys recovering from crack and taught hide-and-seek in order to get their food pellets.


See, and this is what drives me nuts about Windows 8 bashers. The "UI" you're talking about isn't the primary UI. It's the damned Start screen. You don't need to use it.

THIS IS THE WINDOWS 8 USER INTERFACE:

cdn5.groovypost.com

The only difference is that you don't have a Start globe in the lower left. When you mouse over there, the Start Screen will become available to you if you click on it, and then you get this:

www.eightforums.com

And you can just start TYPING the name of an application here instead of picking one of those big icons. When you do that, the application you're looking for will pop up and you can run it directly, and yes, this applies to desktop programs and not just Windows 8 apps.

So if you want to find calculator, you can just type "calc" and it will pop up. Easy as pie.

If you really want the old Start menu back, so you can search for things the hard way, you can find many ways to get it for free if you do a Google search.

But most of the time, you'll be on that Desktop and never touch the Start Screen. When people cite the Start Screen as the reason they hate Windows 8, I know they haven't used it very long, if at all, because most of us on desktop systems have been ignoring it and using Windows 8 the EXACT SAME WAY we used Windows 7... Except that Windows 8 is faster and easier to Search in.
 
2013-01-31 09:07:10 PM  

sammyk: BumpInTheNight: likefunbutnot: syrynxx: client Hyper-V

Just a little note about that: Win8's own HyperV implementation has some particular CPU requirements associated with it, such that it won't run on any pre-Core i CPU or any CPU from Intel that's branded as a Pentium or Celeron, and support on AMD is also kind of random and spotty.

If you want to run Windows 8 in a VM, you need to be up to date with whatever hypervisor you're actually using because of some new stuff in the boot code. Stupid Windows 8 made me upgrade an ESXi machine last week. Grumble grumble.

It did?  Like just patching ESXi 5.0 or going up to 5.1?  Because I'm pretty sure I've got some Win8s on an ESXi 5.0 and I just inherently keep those boys patched.

I'm wondering why why any one would want to use a Microsoft hyper-v. Seriously, why?


I would too, but this is the opposite, using a VMware hypervisor and housing a few Win8 VMs within.
 
2013-01-31 09:07:59 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Ed Finnerty: Alright. I just upgraded and I must say, I'm a little miffed.

All these months of whinging and screeching about the interface and then I'm faced with this upon first load:

- Simple image showing how to active sidebar
- The dreaded tiles
- Click away a couple annoying rolling news ones
- DESKTOP tile appears
- Click on Desktop

Well fark me sideways. It's my same Win 7 desktop, complete with display fusion, Rainmeter and every other customization, shortcut, mapped drive, etc.

So, what was all the fuss about again?


That's what those of us who upgraded at launch have been trying to tell people. It's Windows 7, but with a Start screen instead of a start menu. The ability to go to the Start screen and just start typing to bring up any app in the system is VERY handy, and a lot easier than hunting around on the old start menu for what you were looking for.

Otherwise, it's Windows 7, but slightly faster and (deep in the guts) more stable, with various streamlined updates to several things.

People hating on it have never used it beyond clicking around the Start screen for a while. They don't even mess with the rest of it-- They just play with Start and then freak out.

I've been happy with it. It works well.


^ This..  It's one of my favorite versions of Windows yet..
 
2013-01-31 09:09:17 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: jso2897: HatMadeOfAss: GreenAdder: HatMadeOfAss: //Linux sucks; get over it.

It really doesn't. A comma should not be used to join two independent thoughts unless there's a conjunction of some sort.

Does the semicolon make you feel better?  And why did you stop at the comma?  I forgot a period at the end, as well.  English majors the world over can breathe easier now that they know you're here to stick up for the poor, defenseless written language.

/And Linux does suck.
//Hard!

[i18.photobucket.com image 400x353]

Something, something, your mother's a whore.

/She may not be
//But probably is


Well, close enough for rock 'n roll.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-31 09:12:12 PM  

shanrick: are you flirting with me?

Thanks for the TF, shanrick. Guess it's a date, then.
 
2013-01-31 09:15:41 PM  
ZeroCorpse:  That's what those of us who upgraded at launch have been trying to tell people. It's Windows 7, but with a Start screen instead of a start menu. The ability to go to the Start screen and just start typing to bring up any app in the system is VERY handy, and a lot easier than hunting around on the old start menu for what you were looking for.

Otherwise, it's Windows 7, but slightly faster and (deep in the guts) more stable, with various streamlined updates to several things.

People hating on it have never used it beyond clicking around the Start screen for a while. They don't even mess with the rest of it-- They just play with Start and then freak out.

I've been happy with it. It works well.


Typing stuff at the start menu has been part of Windows since Vista, hasn't it? I don't remember the last time I went searching through the Start Menu.
 
2013-01-31 09:19:49 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: shanrick:I just downloaded this. It works great. I can't wait to


Let it suck your dick?
Get your shill bonus from Microsoft?
Chuck your computer out the window?
Downgrade to Win 7 so you can finish your sentence?

Don't leave us in suspense.


I think you missed the point .....
 
2013-01-31 09:22:14 PM  
My crappy computer finally died last week so I bought a new one with win8. It took a while to figure out how to get it out of the stupid tablet mode and into a traditional desktop mode. There are other changes that kinda suck and things are moved around but I've made my peace with it.
I got home today and my wife asks where all the 'cooch shots' came from. I played dumb and she showed me the computer. When you look at pictures with the new image viewer it tiles random pics from your computer as a background. My porn stash is tastefully hidden several layers deep with file names that sound technical and system related and my wife is nearly computer illiterate so I never worried about it before. Thanks for busting me, Windows 8!
 
2013-01-31 09:23:59 PM  
Oh, and for all you whiners complaining about how hard it is to reach Shutdown in Windows 8:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-shutdown-windows-8-in-just-one-clic k

That link pretty much speaks for itself. All you need is a shortcut to   shutdown /s /t 0

If you really miss that Start Menu, you can go here:  http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download.asp

Start8 will not only give you the Windows 7 style Start Menu, it will give you the ability to boot into Desktop instead of Start.
 
2013-01-31 09:26:04 PM  
Oh, yeah... And WINDOWS KEY + X will pop up a menu that has a bunch of Start's options on the desktop.

WINDOWS KEY + D will send you to Desktop from Start, or minimize all windows if you're already in Desktop.
 
2013-01-31 09:43:08 PM  
I heard MS will offering it for $20 and including a free blowie if you wait until next month!
.
.
*free blowie not available in MS, AL, or KS. All blowies subject to dental dam restriction. Offer void in San Francisco for obvious reasons.
 
2013-01-31 09:50:17 PM  
No.
 
2013-01-31 09:50:29 PM  

leviosaurus: HeartBurnKid:

What's wrong with using it on a desktop?

You cannot boot directly to desktop mode
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the application launcher (Metro/Start Screen) in desktop mode (i.e. Start button or Windows flag button)
There is no visual indicator of how to bring up the Charms bar
There is no indicator of what items in the Charms bar actually pertain to the app you're using
The application launcher that used to come up discreetly in the corner of the screen now takes up the full screen, breaking your workflow with no appreciable benefit
Tiles for installed apps are strewn haphazardly across Metro without rhyme or reason
The "Shut down" function is hopelessly obscured
Metro apps are nowhere near as simple to multitask as traditional Windows apps
Some desktop settings are only changeable through Metro
Some Metro settings are only changeable through the desktop

And that's just the obvious issues.

This is a good start. The biggest overarching message is that they've made a bunch of navigation changes that are completely non-intuitive. I took a friend - a former MS full time employee for 10+ years - to the store, showed her a demo laptop and asked her to do some simple things, like "Close this Window" and "Go back to the desktop" and she couldn't figure it out. This is someone who spent years living inside the Windows environment.

I recently made a business trip, and needed to connect to different wifi spots. The OS tried to handle the connection and failed every time. Each time I opened up an instance of Chrome and connected with no problem. I realize this is IE 10 compatibility issues, but they've made it look like part of the OS, so it makes it look like the OS is at fault. That's just sloppy.

And there's other strange behavior I can't really quantify. PDFs sometimes open in Acrobat, sometimes open in Metro, and sometimes won't open at all (in which case I open them in Chrome, which works fine.) There doesn't seem to be any clear re ...


+1 to both of these. I just built a new machine and thought I'd give Win8 a go. I hated it straight away for these reasons. Simple tasks are made more difficult for no good reason. The best thing I did was install ClassicShell. Now the OS looks like Windows 7, with the actual benefits of the new OS. I hate metro enough to disable it completely, if only I could figure out how.
 
2013-01-31 09:54:09 PM  

Mazzic518: I think you missed the point .....


Someone's got to play along.
 
2013-01-31 09:55:45 PM  
Also, why does the video rendering in Windows Media Player on Windows 8 look terrible? I mean, pixelly, blocky, absolutely atrocious, terrible? It's garbage.
 
2013-01-31 10:02:52 PM  

SpaceBison: [spacebison.com image 130x135]
Still free.


If you put your time as having no value then sure..
 
2013-01-31 10:10:21 PM  

redsquid: My crappy computer finally died last week so I bought a new one with win8. It took a while to figure out how to get it out of the stupid tablet mode and into a traditional desktop mode. There are other changes that kinda suck and things are moved around but I've made my peace with it.
I got home today and my wife asks where all the 'cooch shots' came from. I played dumb and she showed me the computer. When you look at pictures with the new image viewer it tiles random pics from your computer as a background. My porn stash is tastefully hidden several layers deep with file names that sound technical and system related and my wife is nearly computer illiterate so I never worried about it before. Thanks for busting me, Windows 8!


You couldn't see that big arse tile that say desktop? What the hell did you do to have your pics show up as a background? I'm betting you added you porn folder to your personalization options
 
2013-01-31 10:11:16 PM  

gopher321: I'm quite satisfied with my LEGAL version of Windows 7 64-bit.  If Windows 8 was offered for free, I'd still say no.


A big ol' YUP from me too.

I'll hold off on upgrading until they've fixed that abortion of an OS.
 
2013-01-31 10:17:23 PM  

ZeroCorpse: The ability to go to the Start screen and just start typing to bring up any app in the system is VERY handy, and a lot easier than hunting around on the old start menu for what you were looking for.


You mean the search bar that was introduced back in vista?
 
2013-01-31 10:25:03 PM  

sammyk: I'm wondering why why any one would want to use a Microsoft hyper-v. Seriously, why?


Well it's free, so unless you feel like setting up ESXi it's a cheaper workstation option.  VMWare workstation for Windows is $250.

Otherwise, the only reason I've ever used it is to pass the MS exams.  My dreams of running XP in a VM so I could run some old, old games that wouldn't work in compatibility mode were dashed because Microsoft doesn't include a virtual audio driver for VMs.  Their workaround is to use Remote Desktop and port the sound to your client, but that's spotty at best.
 
2013-01-31 10:33:52 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: You couldn't see that big arse tile that say desktop? What the hell did you do to have your pics show up as a background? I'm betting you added you porn folder to your personalization options


It can pull images from your pictures library unless you tell it not to.  If you save your pr0n to a folder that gets indexed as part of your "library" - onto your desktop it goes.
 
2013-01-31 10:35:06 PM  

Intrepid00: Exclusive no, but most games now can run under the latest DX but offer DX9 as a shiat option.


DX11:

img825.imageshack.us

DX9:

img803.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-31 11:42:39 PM  
I bought a laptop in October, and they're only giving me until the end of today to buy Win8 for $15.

Of course, I could just download it for $15 now, and save it for when I want to put it on, say, a new PC.  Because, at least with 7, you can install clean from the upgrade disc if you know what you're doing.

But I really don't actually think I'll spend the $15 just yet.  My desktop is under 2 years old, my laptop under six months, I don't think I'll need a new OS for another 2+ years.
 
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