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(US Department of Justice)   Government Action we can all get behind: DoJ files lawsuit to protect beer prices   (justice.gov) divider line 15
    More: Hero, Justice Department, Victoria Jackson, Anheuser-Busch InBev, MillerCoors, importer, metropolitan areas  
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2041 clicks; posted to Business » on 31 Jan 2013 at 3:29 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-02-01 09:38:50 AM
2 votes:

Rev.K: Stone Meadow: Keystone Light still loves ya...$13,97 at the local Winco.

Yay. Cheap 3.2% piss.

Pass.


Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: I long ago decided I'll just down bottles of dry wine before I suffer through another 30 rock of Keystone. God damn Keystone.


No, no...you guys have the wrong attitude. Keystone is not "beer", it's "alternate hydration". Think of it as suitable for drinking while mowing the lawn, weeding the garden or performing other domestic chores. As such it keeps you hydrated without getting you so drunk you risk falling off the John Deer. But as you note, it's not really appropriate for enjoying with NFL games, sharing with friends as if it is a mark of your esteem for them, etc. ;^)
2013-02-03 11:19:01 AM
1 votes:
I'm glad DoJ did this, having now read the complaint they filed.  Sounds like Modelo has acted as a serious check on InBev.  It'd have been nice if DoJ hadn't allowed all of this consolidation to happen in the first place.  Ever since InBev bought Anheuser and Miller merged(-ish) with Coors, it's been hilariously obvious from the BLS price data that at least wink-wink collusion was going on.

Hope DoJ wins, and the evidence sounds strong, but they should've acted years ago.
2013-02-01 04:05:34 PM
1 votes:
The real problem is that the local and state governments have laws that prevent beer going on sale. They limit competition. In Michigan in order to drop the price of a package of beer the company has to keep it at that price for several months. The way they get around it is to offer a different size (20 packs) instead of cases so they can offer it as a special but the stores lack room for all of the different sizes so it's more rare. Same with hard liquor. The weekly fliers advertise a special price on a 5th but it's the same price that it always is because they can't lower it. It's anti-competitive.
2013-02-01 08:55:37 AM
1 votes:

doofusgumby: Know any good micro/craft brews that aren't in a "how hoppy can you make it" contest and instead have a nice lightly hopped malty amber?


I'm not the person you asked, but here are a few readily-available, not-overhopped beers that are also lighter in color:

New Belgium Fat Tire
Anchor Steam Beer
Goose Island Honker's Ale
Fuller's London Pride
Fuller's ESB
Brooklyn/Pennant Ale '55
Samuel Adams Boston Ale

Basically, to avoid anything you might think is excessively hoppy, stay away from American-style pale ales and IPAs and instead focus on Belgian-style and English-style beers. Generally speaking, American-style beers rely on hops for their character, English-style beers rely on malt and sometimes water with a high mineral content, and Belgian-beers rely on their yeast (there will be exceptions, of course).
2013-02-01 02:29:05 AM
1 votes:

7th Son of a 7th Son: With all the amazing microbrews/craft beer out there it's just sad that people elect to purchase/drink shiatty beer,


Know any good micro/craft brews that aren't in a "how hoppy can you make it" contest and instead have a nice lightly hopped malty amber?
2013-02-01 02:27:51 AM
1 votes:
I'm still pissed that inbev bought Spaten years ago, and just recently switched distributors here with NO plan in place to keep bars stocked with kegs.

So the old distro still has some, but can't deliver any to my local because this territory now belongs to the new distro. Meanwhile new distro is all 'wait, wut?' and has insufficient stock, and little in the pipeline, AND can't get the farking order right. My local asked for five kegs of Oktoberfest, got one keg, and four cases of bottled lager. They go through five kegs a WEEK of Oktoberfest.

I WANT MY GORRAM SPATEN OKTOBERFEST DRAFT, DAMNIT!!!

/and it's only $5 a half liter there
//$3.50 during happy hour!!!
2013-02-01 01:07:17 AM
1 votes:
Hey, does anyone know the alcohol content of Miller High Life, PBR, and Lone Star?

I won't get into it, but I've just down a round robin between the three, ditched each one for various personal reasons.  The Lonestar I can't do at home.  I just can't.

I love my IPA's and my Smithwicks,  but at home.  I want cheap.  Everything else reminds me of highschool.  I can't have that.

I'm drinking out of cans dammit.  $8 12 packs of cans.  That's my budget. More or less.

Sue me.

/still heartbroken. can't do lonestar.  I'm a pussy.
2013-01-31 10:52:00 PM
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: And this is why I've switched to drinking whiskey.  I absolutely refuse to pay $8-$10 for a 6 pack of decent stuff.


Don't come to NY then, that's pretty much the standard on craft. I gave in a long time ago because I can't stand cheap beer anymore, and I don't particularly like hard liquor; even most NY wine (which is pretty much local to me) costs as much or more than a six pack anyway. I think something like 30% of the price is the state sneaking higher tax rates in over the last 4-5 years.

The other thing is though, clean water is becoming somewhat more scarce (see: Fracking companies fighting with farmers out in the west for WATER), and I'm sure multiple droughts have been driving up the price of hops. We could really use some years with good cyclical weather =/
2013-01-31 09:38:11 PM
1 votes:
Well if they don't stop the monster that is Inbev at least I will always have my homebrew on tap. Until they use their monopoly on market power to lobby to re-illegalize hombrewing.
2013-01-31 05:43:11 PM
1 votes:
whistleridge:The fiancéeis Canadian. She came down to NC over Christmas and flipped. her. shiat. over alcohol prices down here. $1.78 for a bottle of wine? $.50 for a draft beer in a bar? $4 for a draft Guiness?

I love drinking in NC. It was my turn to buy this weekend, I bought 6 carbombs, 6 craft beers, 4 Pbr's, 2 vodka tonics, and a couple shots and was annoyed it cost me a whole $60.
2013-01-31 04:41:54 PM
1 votes:

gopher321: If I remember correctly, we tried the "buck a beer" here in Ontario ($24 for a two-four) a while back, and the provincial government listened to the harpies at MADD and ruined it. Said it encouraged binge drinking.


MADD is like the NRA.  People fear (or feared) they're lobbying power, but they're now at the point where if you start a fight with them they'll shoot themselves in the foot with their rhetoric.
2013-01-31 04:34:16 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Meh.  They're just trying to keep some Dutch company from monopolizing watered-down piss beer.


It seems like they only make small efforts, like how they let Comcast take over NBC with only minor restrictions.

A place I used to work for was sold (in whole) to a foreign company who decided to break out of their continent and expand into 2 others.  So suddenly they're one of a few big players in the US.  In short order they were in talks with 2 of our competitors to buy them too.  DOJ said you can buy one but not the other and imposed a few other minor requirements of assets to be shifted around.  A year or so later they were at it again, only this time to buy another company of a similar size.

No problem with that one.  Many, if not most of you probably use their products all the time.

I think consumers were better off when the 2 companies  were 4 different companies.  (Don't worry, there's a couple of other competitors still out there - assuming they hadn't bought them since I left).

We need more competition, not less.
2013-01-31 03:58:33 PM
1 votes:
Alcohol is heavily taxed, but that's part of the reason we have free healthcare.

So, then it's really not free, is it?

/prefer to pay for my beer and healthcare separately.
2013-01-31 03:19:55 PM
1 votes:

whistleridge: It was like $8.50 for a draft Molson, and that was a special.Canadian alcohol prices are insane, and if this will help prevent that, sign me up as a supporter.


Alcohol is heavily taxed, but that's part of the reason we have free healthcare.
2013-01-31 03:12:23 PM
1 votes:

gopher321: If I remember correctly, we tried the "buck a beer" here in Ontario ($24 for a two-four) a while back, and the provincial government listened to the harpies at MADD and ruined it. Said it encouraged binge drinking.


The fiancéeis Canadian. She came down to NC over Christmas and flipped. her. shiat. over alcohol prices down here. $1.78 for a bottle of wine? $.50 for a draft beer in a bar? $4 for a draft Guiness?

I didn't get it, until I went up there.

Holy. farking. shiat. 

It was like $8.50 for a draft Molson, and that was a  special.Canadian alcohol prices are insane, and if this will help prevent that, sign me up as a supporter.
 
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