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(The New York Times)   Congratulations law students. You're now in the elite employment ranks of Future Starbucks Baristas, along with all those liberal arts masters degree holders   (nytimes.com) divider line 37
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2013-01-31 12:16:11 PM  
7 votes:

vernonFL: My sister hasn't even graduated law school yet and she already has a job with the local DAs office.


Is she a young, brash rainmaker who's going to use her natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?
2013-01-31 11:34:25 AM  
5 votes:
Not me, I'm pretty and special and will graduate with money just raining down on me like some sort of cash bukkake.
2013-01-31 01:33:15 PM  
4 votes:

GRCooper: Cyberluddite: vernonFL: My sister hasn't even graduated law school yet and she already has a job with the local DAs office.

I hope she's able to pay off her $100,000 in student loans quickly on that lavish $50K/year salary.

Certainly some people find good and satisfying jobs, and do it right away (hell, I did, for that matter).  But especially now, that's most definitely the exception.

Yeah, a friend graduated from a top 10 law school a few years ago, had to intern for a year or two before getting a job

/I was her date for a barrister's ball one year. Damn good party
//DAMN good party


Some balls are held for barristers and some for fancy dress, but when they're held for charity they're the balls that I like best.
2013-01-31 11:37:18 AM  
4 votes:
I know they won't give you your money back if you go to law school but don't get a job as a lawyer, but what about your soul? Do they at least return that?
2013-01-31 01:04:43 PM  
3 votes:
Starbucks barristers?
2013-01-31 12:37:52 PM  
3 votes:

sigdiamond2000: vernonFL: My sister hasn't even graduated law school yet and she already has a job with the local DAs office.

Is she a young, brash rainmaker who's going to use her natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?


Single Female Lawyer
Havin' lots of sex
2013-01-31 12:33:58 PM  
3 votes:
2013-01-31 01:03:27 PM  
2 votes:
it's my money and i need it now
2013-01-31 12:51:56 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: sigdiamond2000: Is she a young, brash rainmaker who's going to use her natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?

LOL Yes actually. We joke about it all the time. She's heard every "legally blonde", "law and order", "I'll need you when I get a DWI" "No, YOU'RE out of order!" joke.


I like to do the "dun-dun" noise from L & O whenever I'm in the presence of a lawyer. I feel it both breaks the ice and let's them know I can have an informed conversation about legal matters.

I do the same thing with cops, but with them I usually say something about how cool Tutuola looks in those big leather jackets he wears.
2013-01-31 12:32:00 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: LOL Yes actually. We joke about it all the time. She's heard every "legally blonde", "law and order", "I'll need you when I get a DWI" "No, YOU'RE out of order!" joke.


Sounds like she can't handle the truth.
2013-01-31 11:53:57 AM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: My sister hasn't even graduated law school yet and she already has a job with the local DAs office.


Are you sure she said "job" and not "file"?
2013-01-31 05:55:30 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: ProfessorOhki: Because People in power are Stupid: Theaetetus: Because People in power are Stupid: Theaetetus: Also, I've got no debt (wouldn't have gambled on changing careers if I didn't have a scholarship, and I worked full time through law school),

Not that anyone believes that you are a lawyer. In fact you have been known to cite legal "facts" which contradict reality. But now we are expected to believe that you are an engineer too. My dear, what law school did you go to, that let you take only night classes? What "engineering" firm would hire someone who is so blatantly counter-factual that can't admit when she is wrong?

It's not insulting that you constantly lie in your projection of yourself. It's insulting that you think that we would believe it.

I love the fact that you're still on this "anyone who isn't as misogynistic as me must be female" kick.

Ms.  Θεαίτητος, I'm glad you are reaching for the low hanging fruit.Did you say as "proof" that you are a guy that you sat on your balls? Seriously, when does this ever happen? Unless these "balls", of course were created in:

a) Your imagination
b) By some cosmetic surgeon
c) Not there at all

I'm going with c)

Haven't you ever on a chair that has slightly spaced out planks?

Or gotten into a car too quickly on a hot day in the summer? I think BPIPAS is basically admitting he has tiny balls.


Again, when you made the statement -it wasn't summer. If you give me your number, I can message you images of my balls. I think that's why your mom blocked me on facebook.
2013-01-31 02:57:11 PM  
1 votes:

Nabb1: This is relevant to the discussion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMvARy0lBLE

And hilarious, because it's true.


"Have you ever accepted a mediation and then discovered that the other side only requested it so a process server could trap your client in the bathroom of a Wendy's?"

Tears of helpless levity are rolling down my cheeks!
2013-01-31 02:54:10 PM  
1 votes:
Its almost as if most engineering, programming and IT jobs are so mind destroying boring that they take pleasure from others not being able to easily obtain a career after university, graduate school or post-grad studies.

Where I work we have plenty of positions for the IT&T, Cardinal Stretch, University of Phoenix diploma mill graduates. Sure they work 80 hour weeks and live out of a suitcase, but making 80% of what a 40 hour a week non-technical project manager makes must be the sweet life.
2013-01-31 02:47:38 PM  
1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sucks for them, as it does for any new graduate looking for work.

That said though, the last thing we need is more freaking lawyers.  What we need are engineers and scientists.


This, but make sure the engineers understand that the old saying, "if you build a better mouse trap, the world will beat a path to your door," has never worked because the world needs to know why your mouse trap is better...and that's why you need us marketing and advertising hacks.

/ Scientists, you're good. Keep on sciencing.
2013-01-31 02:15:00 PM  
1 votes:
I've been a lawyer for 6 years.  Last night, I broke the news to my wife that I want to become a teacher... so I can make more money.

/3.1/159, so take that.
2013-01-31 02:11:29 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: DROxINxTHExWIND: sigdiamond2000: Cyberluddite: Certainly some people find good and satisfying jobs, and do it right away (hell, I did, for that matter).

Were you a young, brash rainmaker who used your natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?

Is she a single, pretty young white woman who can't find love because of her hectic schedule and cold indifference to people who show her affection, until one confident mail clerk with a dream swept her off of her feet and showed her how to love again?

Dro, you have to quit it with your Harlequin Romance addiction.


Its an excerpt from my new book, "30 Shades of Black". Its about a white lawyer who is caught in a love square with three black guys. Its going straight to DVD starring Terrence Howard, Carmelo Anthony, and Wesley Snipes.
2013-01-31 02:10:50 PM  
1 votes:

Trance354: I know several lawyers. They are not happy about the glut of new lawyers coming out of law school. They are happy, however, about having a job before the brazillion newbies hit the marketplace. I also know some doctors. They think lawyers are prime candidates for nerve gas testing, seeing as rats are further up the food chain, and are too valuable to use as test subjects.I know some engineers got hired because they don't care what state they live in. Time looking for a new job: 2 weeks. Hired right out of college. Knew a chemical engineer who didn't want to leave the city. 6 months looking for a job. Finally got one through a friend. Making less than he would if he had been willing to drive a ways north every week. Petroleum position. Wyoming./l know some of both lawyers and doctors who are friends, but they are weird on their own way//engineer in training


I know a girl who thinks of ghosts. She'll make ya breakfast, she'll make ya toast. She don't use butter, she don't use cheese. She don't use jelly....or any of these. She uses vaseline.
2013-01-31 02:05:15 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: Does another dozen people want to point out my error?


FIFY.

YW.
2013-01-31 01:59:10 PM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: Cyberluddite: Certainly some people find good and satisfying jobs, and do it right away (hell, I did, for that matter).

Were you a young, brash rainmaker who used your natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?


Is she a single, pretty young white woman who can't find love because of her hectic schedule and cold indifference to people who show her affection, until one confident mail clerk with a dream swept her off of her feet and showed her how to love again?
2013-01-31 01:48:02 PM  
1 votes:

redmid17: Mugato: Law school. Memorize a bunch of court case precedents and terminally boring laws and learn to argue like an asshole. Doesn't impress me. farking Bush managed to get a law degree, ffs. Sure there was nepotism involved but he still made it to class.

W didn't have a law degree. He got an MBA.


Clinton got a BJ from a BBW.
2013-01-31 01:33:30 PM  
1 votes:

Chach: When you're a 3.1/158 and someone is still offering you admission, that is BAD


Unless of course you're a 3.1/158.
2013-01-31 01:33:10 PM  
1 votes:
"Can you imagine a world without lawyers?"

24.media.tumblr.com
2013-01-31 01:32:48 PM  
1 votes:

Chach: Go to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, NYU, Chicago, Columbia, Michigan, Virginia, Penn, Cornell, Georgetown, Berkeley, or Duke, or Northwestern. Fine, maybe Texas ... maybe UCLA. But that's it!


I love when people talk out their ass.
2013-01-31 01:27:35 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: RexTalionis: I did law because working as a programmer/IT technician seems like soul-crushing work.

Anyway, is anyone interested in hiring an IT guy who knows his way around the law?

shiat - i'm STILL looking for a job.  the IT field is pretty thin right now.


What? Dude you were looking like a year ago. I think I might have even emailed you about it.

All the vendors I talk to (Apex, Tek Systems, Infosys, Randstad, etc) say tech unemployment is way low right now.
2013-01-31 01:23:54 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: RexTalionis: I did law because working as a programmer/IT technician seems like soul-crushing work.

Anyway, is anyone interested in hiring an IT guy who knows his way around the law?

shiat - i'm STILL looking for a job.  the IT field is pretty thin right now.


You're joking right?  My company is set to hire 100 IT workers of all types (programmers, DBAs, architects, infrastructure) this year, and we're turning away work we have such a high demand.  Our team alone could double in size and still not get all our work done.  I was about to get laid off last year (due to larger contractual issues between two companies), looked for a job for a week and got 2 offers, both paying 20%+ more than I was making the past two years.  I don't get where this "IT field is hurting" stuff is coming from.
2013-01-31 01:20:29 PM  
1 votes:
I predict a massive increase in the old "no, you only gave me a $10" scam at Starbucks.
2013-01-31 01:16:02 PM  
1 votes:

Nabb1: RexTalionis: Boy, ain't that the truth.


Why, I'll sue you for calling me "boy".

[negro community frowns . . .jpg]

/not African American but hey! the law applies to everyone
//legally obligated to place this 2nd slashie.
2013-01-31 01:12:18 PM  
1 votes:
Have we finally hit peak lawsuit?
2013-01-31 01:12:13 PM  
1 votes:
i just became a lawyer, and I'm one of those jerks who has a job but is looking for a better one.  (primarily because my current job sucks.  the pay for a young lawyer is balls.  and, it can be.  i'd be replaced in a second for someone who would probably work for less and probably be not that much worse.  luckily, my boss likes my work.  i just need more of it.).

/ even thought about JAG.  could be interesting, and I could force everyone to call me doctor lieutenant esquire
2013-01-31 01:07:35 PM  
1 votes:
In New Jersey, there is one attorney for every 108 people.

Note that this is NOT the worst thing about New Jersey, which is pretty sad.
2013-01-31 01:04:21 PM  
1 votes:
Sucks for them, as it does for any new graduate looking for work.

That said though, the last thing we need is more freaking lawyers.  What we need are engineers and scientists.
2013-01-31 12:34:37 PM  
1 votes:
I did law because working as a programmer/IT technician seems like soul-crushing work.

Anyway, is anyone interested in hiring an IT guy who knows his way around the law?
2013-01-31 12:17:29 PM  
1 votes:

Cyberluddite: Certainly some people find good and satisfying jobs, and do it right away (hell, I did, for that matter).


Were you a young, brash rainmaker who used your natural spunky charm to step on some toes and put the system on trial?
2013-01-31 11:49:07 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Rincewind53: Weaver95: nice to see law students in the same boat as the rest of us.  c'mon down to the protests and get your fair share of abuse!

Actually, I'm trained to go down to the protests to act as legal observers for the National Lawyer's Guild, to protect protesters from police abuses.

i've met more than a few of your group at various Occupy gatherings.  I don't think the capital cops were too fond of y'all either but the ground rule explanations of what you can and can't do around cops during a protest helped keep things from getting ugly on either side.

I liked it when the cops tried to be all cool about eavsedropping and the lawyer guild rep was like 'c'mon down!  there's a seat here in front'.  i've never seen someone look so uncomfortable in body armor before....


I haven't actually had the opportunity to be a legal observer, sadly. Occupy DC's need for them basically fizzled out right after I got the training, and I wasn't available for the few protests after that where they've needed us. But next year when I'm less utterly destroyed with time (this semester I'm doing a clinic representing an asylum applicant who is in removal proceedings) I'm going to work more closely with NLG. Any organization that drove Joe McCarthy mad is one I can support.
2013-01-31 11:45:25 AM  
1 votes:

Rincewind53: Weaver95: nice to see law students in the same boat as the rest of us.  c'mon down to the protests and get your fair share of abuse!

Actually, I'm trained to go down to the protests to act as legal observers for the National Lawyer's Guild, to protect protesters from police abuses.


i've met more than a few of your group at various Occupy gatherings.  I don't think the capital cops were too fond of y'all either but the ground rule explanations of what you can and can't do around cops during a protest helped keep things from getting ugly on either side.

I liked it when the cops tried to be all cool about eavsedropping and the lawyer guild rep was like 'c'mon down!  there's a seat here in front'.  i've never seen someone look so uncomfortable in body armor before....
2013-01-31 11:36:35 AM  
1 votes:
nice to see law students in the same boat as the rest of us.  c'mon down to the protests and get your fair share of abuse!
 
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