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2013-01-31 11:36:03 AM  
I know how she can avoid these "toxic" pizzas: read the ingredients before buying something and don't buy anything you find objectionable! It's really that easy! It's not as if they were hiding the fact that trans fats were in the food.  She should be thrown out of court immediately and forced to pay the legal fees for the companies for being simply that stupid.
 
2013-01-31 11:37:50 AM  

serpent_sky: I know how she can avoid these "toxic" pizzas: read the ingredients before buying something and don't buy anything you find objectionable!


We will have none of that kind of talk here!
 
2013-01-31 11:47:51 AM  

serpent_sky: I know how she can avoid these "toxic" pizzas: read the ingredients before buying something and don't buy anything you find objectionable! It's really that easy! It's not as if they were hiding the fact that trans fats were in the food.  She should be thrown out of court immediately and forced to pay the legal fees for the companies for being simply that stupid.


THIS^

/and her little shark, too
 
2013-01-31 11:59:40 AM  
But that pizza is frivolicious
 
2013-01-31 12:00:35 PM  
As long as it was disclosed on the nutritional info, I don't really see how they have a case.
 
2013-01-31 12:06:34 PM  
Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
i291.photobucket.com
It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.
 
2013-01-31 12:10:01 PM  
this is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-31 12:16:17 PM  
Weston said the suit seeks all monies Nestle has ever made from frozenpizzas.

Good luck with that.
 
2013-01-31 12:17:29 PM  
To be fair, subby, this is a class-action suit, so it's not like she's expecting to get 5 million to herself.  And if this stupid-ass suit actually does win the lawyers will take half before the any other claimants get their check for five dollars and sixty-two cents.

Anyway, this article makes it seem like a slam dunk at first saying PHVO is "banned worldwide".  Poor choice of words considering that later in the article it specifically states that only a few jurisdictions in the U.S. have banned it, and only in restaurants. 

Even the complaint itself says "banned in many parts of the world."  That does NOT mean "banned worldwide."

Nestle is right to say that they're in compliance with regulations.  I didn't feel like reading the entire 23 page complaint, but I'm guessing this case doesn't have much merit at all, and that it's just enough worth the risk for the lawyers to give it a shot. They could probably give less than two shiats about Katie Simpson and her Snowflakes, et al.
 
2013-01-31 12:18:42 PM  
Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil would be listed in the ingredients. She had the necessary information. It isn't the company's fault that the FDA has asinine regulations regarding trans fat labeling. This woman is just looking for a payday.
 
2013-01-31 12:19:20 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
[i291.photobucket.com image 757x151]
It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.


Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"
 
2013-01-31 12:21:34 PM  

Shostie: hillbillypharmacist: Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
[i291.photobucket.com image 757x151]
It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.

Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"


Not that I could find

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID, ASCORBIC ACID), BARBECUE SAUCE (WATER, TOMATO PASTE, BROWN SUGAR, VINEGAR, MOLASSES, SUGAR, SALT, APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, MUSTARD BRAN, DRIED GARLIC, NATURAL HICKORY SMOKE FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICE, NATURAL FLAVOR), LOW-MOISTURE PART- SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), WATER, GRILLED SEASONED WHITE MEAT CHICKEN (WHITE MEAT CHICKEN, WATER, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, DEXTRIN, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, FLAVORING, YEAST EXTRACT, FRUCTOSE, CARRAGEENAN, CHICKEN FAT, COOKED CHICKEN), SOYBEAN OIL, SMOKED GOUDA CHEESE (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO [COLOR]), SUGAR, RED ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF YEAST, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CILANTRO. CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.
CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.
 
2013-01-31 12:21:50 PM  

Shostie: Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"


INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID, ASCORBIC ACID), BARBECUE SAUCE (WATER, TOMATO PASTE, BROWN SUGAR, VINEGAR, MOLASSES, SUGAR, SALT, APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, MUSTARD BRAN, DRIED GARLIC, NATURAL HICKORY SMOKE FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICE, NATURAL FLAVOR), LOW-MOISTURE PART- SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), WATER, GRILLED SEASONED WHITE MEAT CHICKEN (WHITE MEAT CHICKEN, WATER, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, DEXTRIN, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, FLAVORING, YEAST EXTRACT, FRUCTOSE, CARRAGEENAN, CHICKEN FAT, COOKED CHICKEN), SOYBEAN OIL, SMOKED GOUDA CHEESE (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO [COLOR]), SUGAR, RED ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF YEAST, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CILANTRO. CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.

Doesn't look like it.
 
2013-01-31 12:27:28 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Shostie: Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID, ASCORBIC ACID), BARBECUE SAUCE (WATER, TOMATO PASTE, BROWN SUGAR, VINEGAR, MOLASSES, SUGAR, SALT, APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, MUSTARD BRAN, DRIED GARLIC, NATURAL HICKORY SMOKE FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICE, NATURAL FLAVOR), LOW-MOISTURE PART- SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), WATER, GRILLED SEASONED WHITE MEAT CHICKEN (WHITE MEAT CHICKEN, WATER, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, DEXTRIN, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, FLAVORING, YEAST EXTRACT, FRUCTOSE, CARRAGEENAN, CHICKEN FAT, COOKED CHICKEN), SOYBEAN OIL, SMOKED GOUDA CHEESE (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO [COLOR]), SUGAR, RED ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF YEAST, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CILANTRO. CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.

Doesn't look like it.


Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.
 
2013-01-31 12:30:17 PM  

I want your skull: Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.


It sure does.  Which is kind of a blow to the plaintiff here, as I can't see how CPK can be liable for potential damages for a food product that is legal to sell and is explicit on the packaging.
 
2013-01-31 12:34:30 PM  
Whatever the outcome, the Sicilian style California Pizza must remain available to consumers.
 
2013-01-31 12:35:29 PM  
The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.
 
2013-01-31 12:36:35 PM  
In 2008, California became the first state to ban all restaurant food with artificial trans fat, a law affecting about 88,000 eating establishments, the suit said.

"Trans fats now may not be served in California's schools or restaurants in an amount greater than half a gram per serving," the suit says.


Another blow to the plaintiff is that the pepperoni pizza adheres to the half a gram per serving rule that restaurants and schools adhere to.
 
2013-01-31 12:38:15 PM  
I notice that these pizzas seem to contain gluten.

What kind of monster feeds glutenated food to their CHILDREN??? Does she want her kids to catch autism???
 
2013-01-31 12:38:50 PM  
I know when seeking out healthy food I always think "frozen pizza."
 
2013-01-31 12:39:57 PM  

fruitloop: The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.


I'm not sure I'd buy a Nestle Trans Fat Pizza, you just don't know what is in it.


Doesn't matter.  She's from California.  Liberal bastion, therefore she's not required to have any personal responsibility.
 
2013-01-31 12:41:33 PM  
Oh.  I almost forgot.


Hooootttt Poccckkkeeetttt.
 
2013-01-31 12:44:16 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: I want your skull: Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.

It sure does.  Which is kind of a blow to the plaintiff here, as I can't see how CPK can be liable for potential damages for a food product that is legal to sell and is explicit on the packaging.


Yep. If they were mislabeling it, that would be one thing. They're following the law here, so I just don't see how she has a case.
 
2013-01-31 12:51:09 PM  
"The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target located at 2911 Jamacha Road" near Cuyamaca College in Rancho San Diego, said the suit

Help yourself, help yourself
Help yourself to Stouffer's TRANS FAT PIZZA
 
2013-01-31 12:58:47 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: fruitloop: The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.

I'm not sure I'd buy a Nestle Trans Fat Pizza, you just don't know what is in it.


Doesn't matter.  She's from California.  Liberal bastion, therefore she's not required to have any personal responsibility.


What is up with the derp brigade lately, every thread it's always liberal this liberal that.

Hey morons! Cut it the hell out we too are busying making fun of idiots to listen to your partisan BS
 
2013-01-31 12:58:47 PM  
FTA: "California has banned trans fat in foods served in local restaurants, but no bans on trans fat exist for packaged foods."

Sadly, this will probably not result in the suit being immediately thrown out with minimal cost to the defendant.
 
2013-01-31 12:59:19 PM  
This twunt should be punched in the gunt.  Don't buy the friggin' pizza.  It contains a perfectly legal ingredient that they completely disclose.
 
2013-01-31 12:59:34 PM  
No wonder why when I tried one of their pizza's i got the bad poops - I don't believe in serving sizes. I usually eat the whole thing myself.

I do not like Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas
 
2013-01-31 12:59:37 PM  
But when she learned they contained trans fat-an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison.

Right or wrong, I just want to punch her in the face after reading this bit. It's a goddamn frozen pizza. It's unhealthy, trans fat or no, you stupid farking cow.
 
2013-01-31 12:59:37 PM  
Never mind the trans fat, she should have sued them for tasting so disgusting.
 
2013-01-31 12:59:38 PM  
Anything with hydrogenated oil contains trans fat. Even if it is less than 1%, it is there.
 
2013-01-31 01:00:01 PM  
So by her reasoning, when she fed this to her children, she committed an act of child endangerment! When will she be arrested?
 
2013-01-31 01:00:54 PM  

Jument: But when she learned they contained trans fat-an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison.

Right or wrong, I just want to punch her in the face after reading this bit. It's a goddamn frozen pizza. It's unhealthy, trans fat or no, you stupid farking cow.



Thank God Twinkies are off the market...she would have a heart attack if she read the ingredients.
 
2013-01-31 01:01:18 PM  
I went to a CPK once, I didn't know WTF I was dealing with. All the pizzas seemed to involve mayonnaise or bacon or both. I had the distinct feeling I was in an Olive Garden but without soup and with the pasta flattened into squishy crusts. I couldn't figure out how, exactly, California was involved. It occurred to me that CPK was about as Left Coast as Boston Market is Beantown.
 
2013-01-31 01:01:19 PM  
Because fark you, trans fats are deliscious.
 
2013-01-31 01:01:34 PM  

Dafodude: To be fair, subby, this is a class-action suit, so it's not like she's expecting to get 5 million to herself.  And if this stupid-ass suit actually does win the lawyers will take half before the any other claimants get their check for five dollars and sixty-two cents.

Anyway, this article makes it seem like a slam dunk at first saying PHVO is "banned worldwide".  Poor choice of words considering that later in the article it specifically states that only a few jurisdictions in the U.S. have banned it, and only in restaurants. 

Even the complaint itself says "banned in many parts of the world."  That does NOT mean "banned worldwide."

Nestle is right to say that they're in compliance with regulations.  I didn't feel like reading the entire 23 page complaint, but I'm guessing this case doesn't have much merit at all, and that it's just enough worth the risk for the lawyers to give it a shot. They could probably give less than two shiats about Katie Simpson and her Snowflakes, et al.


What is sad is that Nestle will probably settle out of court just to avoid court costs and the lawyers will get a payday regardless.
 
2013-01-31 01:01:48 PM  
So the biatch is suing the company for not removing something they've never been required to remove, and because she can't read labels? Trans fats aren't that hard to avoid even if you eat processed foods, and consuming a small amount will have a negligible effect on your health anyway. And if that crap is all you eat, trans fats are probably about the least of your concerns, after all the total fat, sodium, sugar, and artificial chemicals you're consuming.
 
2013-01-31 01:01:56 PM  

Egoy3k: What is up with the derp brigade lately, every thread it's always liberal this liberal that.


Lately?
 
2013-01-31 01:02:09 PM  
This is what is wrong with our legal system.

Nestle is clearly in compliance with state law.  Certain ingredients are banned in restaraunts, but not pre-packaged food.

That pretty much puts an end to it.  So why was the suit even allowed to be filed.  It seems to me that the proper course of action, if any at all, is to get the regulation changed.

Stupid waste of time and money for everyone.
 
2013-01-31 01:02:29 PM  
" Did someone order a pizza? "
 
2013-01-31 01:04:03 PM  
Trans fats = flavor. Anyone who still remembers KFC before they got rid of TF oils knows what I mean.
 
2013-01-31 01:04:25 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Oh.  I almost forgot.


Hooootttt Poccckkkeeetttt.


I just read that aloud in Jim Gaffigan's voice, and now my coworkers are looking at me funny.
 
2013-01-31 01:06:37 PM  
What do you want on your Tombstone?
 
2013-01-31 01:06:42 PM  
it's my money and i need it now
 
2013-01-31 01:10:14 PM  
I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.
 
2013-01-31 01:13:20 PM  

theorellior: I went to a CPK once, I didn't know WTF I was dealing with. All the pizzas seemed to involve mayonnaise or bacon or both. I had the distinct feeling I was in an Olive Garden but without soup and with the pasta flattened into squishy crusts. I couldn't figure out how, exactly, California was involved. It occurred to me that CPK was about as Left Coast as Boston Market is Beantown.


Went twice.  First time wasn't bad.  Too much cheese.  Second time I went, waaaay too much cheese.  Also it's too greasy from them adding oil to the pan to proof the bread (basically instead of letting yeast do its job, they deep fry the dough - a pizza place shortcut when they don't have enough dough ready).

Never again.
 
2013-01-31 01:13:50 PM  
Wait til she finds out what goes into the sausage . . .
 
2013-01-31 01:13:52 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
[i291.photobucket.com image 757x151]
It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.


The 'nutritional info' panel can be misleading.  FDA allows anything less than half a gram of trans-fat per serving to be listed as zero.  That's why I look at the ingredients list for 'partially-hydrogenated'.

While I consider trans fats dangerous, and avoid them whenever possible, I sincerely hope that the judge throws out this suit immediately, and forces this dippy twat to pay Nestle's court costs.  Also, I will be filing an amicus brief with the court, offering to punch the plaintiff in the clitoris.
 
2013-01-31 01:15:20 PM  
All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.
 
2013-01-31 01:15:58 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Trans fats = flavor. Anyone who still remembers KFC before they got rid of TF oils knows what I mean.


Yeah, no.  Butter=flavor.  Bacon grease=flavor.  Partially-hydrogenated soybean oil=flavorless anal lube.
 
2013-01-31 01:16:58 PM  
Trans fats are made when you heat oil.  A tiny amount, but an amount nonetheless.
 
2013-01-31 01:17:44 PM  
If frozen pizzas were even remotely poisonous I would not have survived my early twenties.
 
2013-01-31 01:17:52 PM  

serpent_sky: I know how she can avoid these "toxic" pizzas: read the ingredients before buying something and don't buy anything you find objectionable! It's really that easy! It's not as if they were hiding the fact that trans fats were in the food.  She should be thrown out of court immediately and forced to pay the legal fees for the companies for being simply that stupid.


Ya, that makes sense, but if she did that, she couldn't bring forth teh frivolous lawsuit for eleventy gillion dollars to pay her life and her two crotch fruit.
 
2013-01-31 01:18:12 PM  
Never has the term "biatch slap" crossed my mind so many times in one article.
 
2013-01-31 01:18:29 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: What do you want on your Tombstone?


A thick layer of trans fat.

/OMG, Frozen Pizza has trans fats?!!
//I'll never be surprised with whatever is in a frozen pizza.
 
2013-01-31 01:18:59 PM  

99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.


I'll take that bet.  People who look like your description don't give a shiat about trans fat - it's 40% of their diet.
 
2013-01-31 01:19:41 PM  

Dafodude: To be fair, subby, this is a class-action suit, so it's not like she's expecting to get 5 million to herself.  And if this stupid-ass suit actually does win the lawyers will take half before the any other claimants get their check for five dollars and sixty-two cents.

Anyway, this article makes it seem like a slam dunk at first saying PHVO is "banned worldwide".  Poor choice of words considering that later in the article it specifically states that only a few jurisdictions in the U.S. have banned it, and only in restaurants. 

Even the complaint itself says "banned in many parts of the world."  That does NOT mean "banned worldwide."

Nestle is right to say that they're in compliance with regulations.  I didn't feel like reading the entire 23 page complaint, but I'm guessing this case doesn't have much merit at all, and that it's just enough worth the risk for the lawyers to give it a shot. They could probably give less than two shiats about Katie Simpson and her Snowflakes, et al.


No, just give them a free pizza as the settlement. For maximum trolling.
 
2013-01-31 01:22:03 PM  
That's the argument being made in a $5 million federal class-action lawsuit that claims Nestle-makers of DiGiorno, Stouffer's and California Pizza Kitchen frozen pizzas -is "placing profits over public health" by failing to remove trans fat.

According to at least half our governing body, profits are and have been, more important that humans for quite some time.  That's how our entire health care system works.  Good luck with that reasoning.  If it kills you and they make a few bucks, it was well played.
 
2013-01-31 01:22:34 PM  

Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.


Launching her into the sun would cost quite a bit of money.  Would you settle for catapulting her into the Pacific Ocean, covered with chum?

/after I get to punch her in the clitoris, of course
 
2013-01-31 01:23:32 PM  

mytdawg: That's the argument being made in a $5 million federal class-action lawsuit that claims Nestle-makers of DiGiorno, Stouffer's and California Pizza Kitchen frozen pizzas -is "placing profits over public health" by failing to remove trans fat.

According to at least half our governing body, profits are and have been, more important that humans for quite some time.  That's how our entire health care system works.  Good luck with that reasoning.  If it kills you and they make a few bucks, it was well played.


You know, she could just read the ingredients.  That's what I do.
 
2013-01-31 01:23:48 PM  

CheekyMonkey: I'll take that bet. People who look like your description don't give a shiat about trans fat - it's 40% of their diet.


Mmmm, sketti!
 
2013-01-31 01:28:33 PM  

serpent_sky: I know how she can avoid these "toxic" pizzas: read the ingredients before buying something and don't buy anything you find objectionable! It's really that easy! It's not as if they were hiding the fact that trans fats were in the food.  She should be thrown out of court immediately and forced to pay the legal fees for the companies for being simply that stupid.


You say that as if she didn't specifically search out a pizza with that ingredient listed just so she had an excuse to start the lawsuit. Yeah, I'm cynical, but these cases are always, always setups.
 
2013-01-31 01:29:53 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.

Launching her into the sun would cost quite a bit of money.  Would you settle for catapulting her into the Pacific Ocean, covered with chum?

/after I get to punch her in the clitoris, of course


Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!
 
2013-01-31 01:31:44 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.

Launching her into the sun would cost quite a bit of money.  Would you settle for catapulting her into the Pacific Ocean, covered with chum?

/after I get to punch her in the clitoris, of course


You're right, I let my emotions override my logic.

Although she's probably a giant fat cow with enough fuel reserves to launch HERSELF into the sun with a quick bic flick.

I suppose I could settle for everyone on Earth lining up for one free taco punch/kick. Just doesn't seem painful enough.

But it should HOPEFULLY keep her from continuing to pollute the world with more of her disgusting crotch fruit.
 
2013-01-31 01:32:45 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
[i291.photobucket.com image 757x151]
It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.


We will have none of those kinds of facts here!
 
2013-01-31 01:33:05 PM  

FlashHarry: this is why we can't have nice things.


Frozen pizza's a nice thing?
 
2013-01-31 01:33:16 PM  
There's only a little bit of crunchy frog in it
 
2013-01-31 01:34:28 PM  
For people thinking this was some random house wife's scheme or even her good natured plan to save American children from the evils of trans fats, I would humbly suggest she saw a late night commercial from some scam law agency telling that "If you or someone you know has eaten frozen California Pizza Kitchen pizzas, you may be part of a class action lawsuit and have money to collect."

And if they hook enough greedy people, they bring a class action suit against the company. Lawyers make bank while the class action recipients make about $2.50.
 
2013-01-31 01:34:50 PM  
This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.
 
2013-01-31 01:36:52 PM  

Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.


Just make sure you use Crisco in the dough.  It really adds some flavor.
 
2013-01-31 01:38:49 PM  
I'm going to sue the Philly Pizza Company for not having hot tea.
 
2013-01-31 01:38:55 PM  
Is trans fat the stuff with large hands, prominent Adam's apple, bad makeup and an overwhelming sense of entitlement?
 
2013-01-31 01:40:46 PM  

fruitloop: The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.


Seriously. I mean, how can she by Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas and then claim she didn't know
they had trans fats?

Sheesh.
 
2013-01-31 01:40:48 PM  
SHOOT THE LAWYERS! MORE SKIN ON HBO! L.H. PUTTGRASS SIGNING OFF AND HEADING FOR THE TUB!!
 
2013-01-31 01:42:06 PM  
heh heh... death crystals.
 
2013-01-31 01:42:14 PM  
But when she learned they contained trans fat-an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison.

Thank you, media, for alerting the public to this disastrous causal relationship.
 
2013-01-31 01:42:19 PM  

theorellior: CheekyMonkey: I'll take that bet. People who look like your description don't give a shiat about trans fat - it's 40% of their diet.

Mmmm, sketti!


NOT clicking.  I'd really like to finish out my life without viewing even a little bit of that trash.
 
2013-01-31 01:42:19 PM  
It would be real nice to see the judge make this idiot and her attorney pay the legal cost for CA Kitchen when they lose.
 
2013-01-31 01:42:22 PM  

lymond01: For people thinking this was some random house wife's scheme or even her good natured plan to save American children from the evils of trans fats, I would humbly suggest she saw a late night commercial from some scam law agency telling that "If you or someone you know has eaten frozen California Pizza Kitchen pizzas, you may be part of a class action lawsuit and have money to collect."

And if they hook enough greedy people, they bring a class action suit against the company. Lawyers make bank while the class action recipients make about $2.50.


A coupon for a free cholesterol test is more likely
 
2013-01-31 01:42:40 PM  

I want your skull: hillbillypharmacist: Shostie: Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID, ASCORBIC ACID), BARBECUE SAUCE (WATER, TOMATO PASTE, BROWN SUGAR, VINEGAR, MOLASSES, SUGAR, SALT, APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, MUSTARD BRAN, DRIED GARLIC, NATURAL HICKORY SMOKE FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICE, NATURAL FLAVOR), LOW-MOISTURE PART- SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), WATER, GRILLED SEASONED WHITE MEAT CHICKEN (WHITE MEAT CHICKEN, WATER, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, DEXTRIN, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, FLAVORING, YEAST EXTRACT, FRUCTOSE, CARRAGEENAN, CHICKEN FAT, COOKED CHICKEN), SOYBEAN OIL, SMOKED GOUDA CHEESE (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO [COLOR]), SUGAR, RED ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF YEAST, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CILANTRO. CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.

Doesn't look like it.

Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.


But it also does not list any hydrogenated oils on the ingredients lists. It's safe to assume that the transisomer fatty acids present in the product are the naturally occurring variety found in small quantities in animal fat. Let's see, about 3-5% of animal fats contains transisomer fatty acids. The nutritional label for this pepperoni and cheese pizza lists 16grams of total fats and .5grams of trans fats. That means the fats in this product are 3.125% trans fats.

This women will shocked to learn that the trans fats in this product are not "a dangerous food additive" but a naturally occurring lipid.

This woman reminds of the scene in Clerks when Randal is describing annoying customers. The one guy biatches, "What? You expect me to the drink this coffee hot?"
 
2013-01-31 01:43:06 PM  
I'm to stupid to read a label.
Give me money.
 
2013-01-31 01:44:13 PM  

max_pooper: I want your skull: hillbillypharmacist: Shostie: Does the list of ingredients include the phrase "partially hydrogenated?"

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID, ASCORBIC ACID), BARBECUE SAUCE (WATER, TOMATO PASTE, BROWN SUGAR, VINEGAR, MOLASSES, SUGAR, SALT, APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, MUSTARD BRAN, DRIED GARLIC, NATURAL HICKORY SMOKE FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICE, NATURAL FLAVOR), LOW-MOISTURE PART- SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), WATER, GRILLED SEASONED WHITE MEAT CHICKEN (WHITE MEAT CHICKEN, WATER, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, DEXTRIN, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, FLAVORING, YEAST EXTRACT, FRUCTOSE, CARRAGEENAN, CHICKEN FAT, COOKED CHICKEN), SOYBEAN OIL, SMOKED GOUDA CHEESE (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO [COLOR]), SUGAR, RED ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF YEAST, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CILANTRO. CONTAINS: WHEAT, MILK.

Doesn't look like it.

Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.

But it also does not list any hydrogenated oils on the ingredients lists. It's safe to assume that the transisomer fatty acids present in the product are the naturally occurring variety found in small quantities in animal fat. Let's see, about 3-5% of animal fats contains transisomer fatty acids. The nutritional label for this pepperoni and cheese pizza lists 16grams of total fats and .5grams of trans fats. That means the fats in this product are 3.125% trans fats.

This women will shocked to learn that the trans fats in this product are not "a dangerous food additive" but a naturally occurring lipid.

This woman reminds of the scene in Clerks when Randal is describing annoying customers. The one guy biatches, "What? You expect me to the drink this coffee hot?"


There was a guy on Chowhound that tried to explain the hysterical foodies about naturally occuring transfats.  Poor SOB didn't stand a chance.
 
2013-01-31 01:44:34 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!


Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...
 
2013-01-31 01:44:44 PM  
I think she should give up eating pizza, and eat chit.
 
2013-01-31 01:48:18 PM  

CheekyMonkey: NOT clicking. I'd really like to finish out my life without viewing even a little bit of that trash.


It's the only clip I've actually watched, and it's quite nauseating.
 
2013-01-31 01:48:37 PM  

loki see loki do: Because fark you, trans fats are deliscious.


Not really. Saturated fats are delicious, trans fats are gross, but good for marketing purposes (texture, shelf life).
 
2013-01-31 01:48:53 PM  

theorellior: Boston Market is Beantown.


whats wrong with boston market?
 
2013-01-31 01:49:45 PM  

CheekyMonkey: 99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.

I'll take that bet.  People who look like your description don't give a shiat about trans fat - it's 40% of their diet.


Perhaps, but money grab, sue happy people do. If she is all that concerned, she shouldn't be buying  anyfrozen pizza in the first place.
 
2013-01-31 01:50:17 PM  

gopher321: SHOOT THE LAWYERS! MORE SKIN ON HBO! L.H. PUTTGRASS SIGNING OFF AND HEADING FOR THE TUB!!


HAHAHAhA Love the "Bloom County" reference.

Still enjoy hauling out my Bloom County collections and reading a bunch
 
2013-01-31 01:51:53 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!

Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...


;)
 
2013-01-31 01:51:56 PM  
a BS lawsuit, the company should counter-sue for lawyers fees.
It's stupid shait like this that needs to go away.
I think we should sue KFC to find out what the secret eleven herbs and spices are and/or Coke for their recipe.
 
2013-01-31 01:52:00 PM  

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: But when she learned they contained trans fat-an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison.

Thank you, media, for alerting the public to this disastrous causal relationship.


A causal relationship has been well established. Trans fats are many times worse (~10x, IIRC) in terms of increased risk than saturated fats.

Just because the media is stupid for saying "linked to" instead of correctly describing its causal relationship doesn't mean you have to go full moron by pointing out the implications of the word they incorrectly used.
 
2013-01-31 01:52:21 PM  

tlchwi02: whats wrong with boston market?


Nothing in particular, except its menu has nothing to do with Boston whatsoever.
 
2013-01-31 01:52:25 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: As long as it was disclosed on the nutritional info, I don't really see how they have a case.


And her logic of they "Failed to remove it" would mean they would have to have been ordered to remove it by someone official and didn't.

Stupid case is stupid
 
2013-01-31 01:52:50 PM  

Enigmamf: Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: But when she learned they contained trans fat-an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison.

Thank you, media, for alerting the public to this disastrous causal relationship.

A causal relationship has been well established. Trans fats are many times worse (~10x, IIRC) in terms of increased risk than saturated fats.

Just because the media is stupid for saying "linked to" instead of correctly describing its causal relationship doesn't mean you have to go full moron by pointing out the implications of the word they incorrectly used.



You NEVER go 'full moron'.....
 
2013-01-31 01:53:26 PM  

theorellior: tlchwi02: whats wrong with boston market?

Nothing in particular, except its menu has nothing to do with Boston whatsoever.


I don't know.. I've seen black people stereotyped and treated differently in a few of them.
 
2013-01-31 01:55:48 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!

Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...


I think we'll have to skeet shoot with shotguns. Only because I think we should fill them with rock salt. I don't want some sharp shooter ending this fun in the first few seconds.

/Could we fill shotguns with some kind of crystallized trans-fat? Ironic punishments are the funniest kind.
 
2013-01-31 01:56:07 PM  
Hey, don't infringe on my trans fat laced pizza!  This woman better not get any of the money they've made off of me.

/fat.
 
2013-01-31 01:57:04 PM  

Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.


Wait until she finds out that trans fat occur naturally in meat and dairy.
 
2013-01-31 01:57:12 PM  
Another entitled biatch that thinks she has the "right" not to never be offended or disappointed.
 
2013-01-31 01:58:16 PM  
Idiots like this should be taken out and flogged...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-31 01:58:51 PM  

styckx: I don't know.. I've seen black people stereotyped and treated differently in a few of them.


LOLWUT. Boston has no monopoly on racial stereotyping.
 
2013-01-31 01:59:30 PM  
The company should follow the law and regulations! oh, they did? Well, maybe if the company would have labeled it... oh they did that too?

I wonder if she drinks. Alcohol actually does act as poison in your body. Why not sue Miller?
 
2013-01-31 01:59:30 PM  

Smgth: CheekyMonkey: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!

Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...

I think we'll have to skeet shoot with shotguns. Only because I think we should fill them with rock salt. I don't want some sharp shooter ending this fun in the first few seconds.

/Could we fill shotguns with some kind of crystallized trans-fat? Ironic punishments are the funniest kind.


I can completely support crystallized trans-fat filled shells!  And due to drag coefficient slowing her down I'll may even get good shot!

/not good at skeet
//not at all........
 
2013-01-31 02:01:11 PM  
Someone please take this woman's children away and put them in foster care, sterilize her, and then punch her in the face.
 
2013-01-31 02:04:25 PM  

max_pooper: But it also does not list any hydrogenated oils on the ingredients lists. It's safe to assume that the transisomer fatty acids present in the product are the naturally occurring variety found in small quantities in animal fat. Let's see, about 3-5% of animal fats contains transisomer fatty acids. The nutritional label for this pepperoni and cheese pizza lists 16grams of total fats and .5grams of trans fats. That means the fats in this product are 3.125% trans fats.

This women will shocked to learn that the trans fats in this product are not "a dangerous food additive" but a naturally occurring lipid.

This woman reminds of the scene in Clerks when Randal is describing annoying customers. The one guy biatches, "What? You expect me to the drink this coffee hot?"


You mean to tell me that natural fats (even trans fats) are not bad like artificially made non-food from a lab? HERESY!!!

In all seriousness, facts matter little to people who file frivolous lawsuits.
 
2013-01-31 02:05:11 PM  

Smgth: CheekyMonkey: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!

Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...

I think we'll have to skeet shoot with shotguns. Only because I think we should fill them with rock salt. I don't want some sharp shooter ending this fun in the first few seconds.

/Could we fill shotguns with some kind of crystallized trans-fat? Ironic punishments are the funniest kind.


Paint balls hurt, right?  We could just custom-order a few cases of Crisco-filled paint balls...
 
2013-01-31 02:06:05 PM  

Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.




fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net

Best crust I ever made. I used Tuscan Herb olive oil in it. I could have just eaten the crust and been satisfied.
 
2013-01-31 02:08:17 PM  

99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.


I went looking for a picture of said woman. I could not find one. But I did find a video on Huffington Post of some other woman claiming the lawsuit has merit. You guessed it, she's fat.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/nestle-california-pizza-kit ch en_n_2566503.html
 
2013-01-31 02:12:26 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Smgth: CheekyMonkey: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we skeet shoot at her upon launch?  I don't care where we launch her, sun or ocean, I'd just like a shot!!!

Just as long as you don't use one of those scary, black assault rifles...

I think we'll have to skeet shoot with shotguns. Only because I think we should fill them with rock salt. I don't want some sharp shooter ending this fun in the first few seconds.

/Could we fill shotguns with some kind of crystallized trans-fat? Ironic punishments are the funniest kind.

I can completely support crystallized trans-fat filled shells!  And due to drag coefficient slowing her down I'll may even get good shot!

/not good at skeet
//not at all........


I've done a lot of target shooting (including those scary assault weapons), but I've not tried skeet (or actually OWNED a gun). So I think the spread pattern of transfat crystals would be good for ppl unfamiliar with skeet.


'Paint balls hurt, right? We could just custom-order a few cases of Crisco-filled paint balls...'

- They hurt like a mother, I've been hit on the bare skin a few times and it took WEEKS for the bruises to go away and before they did the were the size of my fist! Maybe we could alternate paintball & rockfat (patent pending, TM)
 
2013-01-31 02:16:05 PM  
I visited the politics tab, and I feel like my mind was poisoned. Drew didn't put up any warnings about the excessive amounts of derp found in his product. Expect a lawsuit.

//I think I have a better case than the woman in the article
 
2013-01-31 02:19:46 PM  
wait...frozen food isn't natrual and healthy???? dude, woah
 
2013-01-31 02:20:51 PM  
I'm not a violent person, but this is one biatch I would punch in the face without feeling bad about it
 
2013-01-31 02:21:30 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Well, here is the nutritional info from the website for the BBQ Chicken pizza:
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It reports no trans fat.  This may be the issue at hand.
Of course, if it has 0.3gm of trans fat and the FDA allows it to be rounded down to zero, I still don't really think they have a case.


if that label is real..omg 900 calories and enough salt to sink a salt shaker!
 
2013-01-31 02:22:53 PM  

tbhouston: wait...frozen food isn't natrual and healthy???? dude, woah


What's even stupiderererer, is this lawsuit is about a product that contains ingredients that happen to have naturally occurring tranisomer fatty acids, not the lab-generated hydrogenated oil type.
 
2013-01-31 02:26:59 PM  
Smgth:
I've done a lot of target shooting (including those scary assault weapons), but I've not tried skeet (or actually OWNED a gun). So I think the spread pattern of transfat crystals would be good for ppl unfamiliar with skeet.


'Paint balls hurt, right? We could just custom-order a few cases of Crisco-filled paint balls...'

- They hurt like a mother, I've been hit on the bare skin a few times and it took WEEKS for the bruises to go away and before they did the were the size of my fist! Maybe we could alternate paintball & rockfat (patent pending, TM)


I shoot skeet like I hunt ducks/geese.  I always lead too far ahead, so the spread pattern should help me a lot!

I've been invited to go paint ball warring, but oh HELLS to da NOES!  I've seen bruises such as you describe, and I do not want.

I wonder if the RockRat (TM) (patent pending) would interfere with the adhesion of the paintballs?
 
2013-01-31 02:28:22 PM  

tlchwi02: theorellior: Boston Market is Beantown.

whats wrong with boston market?


True story: I stopped by Boston Market for lunch in Albuquerque in 1998. I had never been to the restaurant before and thought I would try it out. I ordered a turkey sandwich, which also had lettuce and tomato. After the first bite, I noticed it had some fat on the meat. So I opened up the sandwich to pull the fatty part out and there was a dead moth on the lettuce. Between the fat and the dead moth, I completely lost my appetite and threw it all away.

I have never been back since.

Now in Kansas City, I miss Teriyaki Chicken Bowl. I have not seen one out here.
 
2013-01-31 02:29:03 PM  

GreenAdder: I'm going to sue the Philly Pizza Company for not having hot tea.


I'm going to sue them for mislabeling The Mamas and the Papas as The Beach Boys in their jukebox.
 
2013-01-31 02:31:09 PM  
Remember how we were supposed to laugh when the tobacco companies claimed that they were only the first on a slippery slope of total life control via lawsuit?
 
2013-01-31 02:31:25 PM  

fruitloop: The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.


Had no idea they sold full Trans Fat pizzas.  On my way to Target now.
 
2013-01-31 02:31:32 PM  
California Pizza Kitchen: Just like an authentic California pizza you'd buy in the freezer section at Safeway.
 
2013-01-31 02:33:08 PM  
Dammit, America.
 
2013-01-31 02:33:15 PM  
So if the label doesn't show any trans fat, and the ingredient list doesn't have partially hydrogenated oils, wouldn't that mean this lady has a case?
 
2013-01-31 02:34:19 PM  
Due to bacteria naturally present in milk before pasteurization- milk itself has trans fatty acids.

Pizza has cheese: do the math (or biochemistry in this case)

That said, if they snuck in some vegetable shortening without telling, they could be in trouble
 
2013-01-31 02:34:31 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Smgth:
I've done a lot of target shooting (including those scary assault weapons), but I've not tried skeet (or actually OWNED a gun). So I think the spread pattern of transfat crystals would be good for ppl unfamiliar with skeet.


'Paint balls hurt, right? We could just custom-order a few cases of Crisco-filled paint balls...'

- They hurt like a mother, I've been hit on the bare skin a few times and it took WEEKS for the bruises to go away and before they did the were the size of my fist! Maybe we could alternate paintball & rockfat (patent pending, TM)

I shoot skeet like I hunt ducks/geese.  I always lead too far ahead, so the spread pattern should help me a lot!

I've been invited to go paint ball warring, but oh HELLS to da NOES!  I've seen bruises such as you describe, and I do not want.

I wonder if the RockRat (TM) (patent pending) would interfere with the adhesion of the paintballs?


Well the paintballs aren't really being used for their marking capacity (especially not if we're loading them with Crisco as Cheeky Monkey suggests), more for the pain they cause when they hit.

/We could certainly tie her to a post and do some preliminary target practice to determine the efficacy.
 
2013-01-31 02:37:46 PM  
The trans-fat is probably coming from the smoke flavor. Not uncommon to use an oil soluble flavor for BBQ sauce since there is so much starch in BBQ, The little bit of PHVO is the carrier for the smoke.

The woman in the article is a moron. Of all the goddamn things to get outraged about.
 
2013-01-31 02:39:29 PM  
Smgth:

I wonder if the RockFat (TM) (patent pending) would interfere with the adhesion of the paintballs?

Well the paintballs aren't really being used for their marking capacity (especially not if we're loading them with Crisco as Cheeky Monkey suggests), more for the pain they cause when they hit.

/We could certainly tie her to a post and do some preliminary target practice to determine the efficacy.


Excellent point.  I'm in!  I'd forgotten we were using CriscoBalls!

/short term memory and attention span
//CriscoBalls sounds vaguely pronographic.  And very, very dirty.
 
2013-01-31 02:44:14 PM  
Hey Mom, how about making dinner for your kids? Or at least picking up some easy make at home meals.
 
2013-01-31 02:46:06 PM  

katerbug72: Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.

[fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 850x566]

Best crust I ever made. I used Tuscan Herb olive oil in it. I could have just eaten the crust and been satisfied.


I use olive oil in mine, also (I'll need to try the Tuscan Herb olive oil).  Probably the best I've ever had it turn out was for a lobster pizza, though, because the "sauce" is a sauteed garlic in butter sauce and the butter got all up on the crust so it got totally crispy in the oven.

Yeah...so NOT healthy for you.
 
2013-01-31 02:47:20 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Smgth:

I wonder if the RockFat (TM) (patent pending) would interfere with the adhesion of the paintballs?

Well the paintballs aren't really being used for their marking capacity (especially not if we're loading them with Crisco as Cheeky Monkey suggests), more for the pain they cause when they hit.

/We could certainly tie her to a post and do some preliminary target practice to determine the efficacy.

Excellent point.  I'm in!  I'd forgotten we were using CriscoBalls!

/short term memory and attention span
//CriscoBalls sounds vaguely pronographic.  And very, very dirty.


I bet this lady already has a bad case of CriscoBalls.

/At the very least it's her favorite sex game with either her husband or her dog.
 
2013-01-31 02:48:01 PM  

litespeed74: Hey Mom, how about making dinner for your kids? Or at least picking up some easy make at home meals.


Like a frozen pizza?
 
2013-01-31 02:52:34 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: I want your skull: Their pepperoni pizza has, and lists trans fat on the nutritional info.

It sure does.  Which is kind of a blow to the plaintiff here, as I can't see how CPK can be liable for potential damages for a food product that is legal to sell and is explicit on the packaging.


Her little angels were at risk. That alone makes it worth $5 million.
 
2013-01-31 02:52:46 PM  
chzragecomics.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-31 02:56:02 PM  
FTA: "Weston said the suit seeks all monies Nestle has ever made from frozen pizzas."

Now THAT is some Major League hubris.

I hope she doesn't receive a dime.
 
2013-01-31 02:56:10 PM  
There is far too little factual information in that article to fully understand the motivation for suit or the potential culpability of the target of the suit, but I choose to cement an angry position on the issue and vociferously argue it anyway.

/ RARGH
 
2013-01-31 02:58:26 PM  

99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.


This. There's no picture of her, which means she's hideously overweight, and I'll bet dollars to donuts she just now started reading labels because she's on a "diet" and suddenly cares about whether there are "trans fats" in her food. And if you asked her, she couldn't tell you what a "trans fat" was except it's bad and could kill you or something.
 
2013-01-31 03:15:18 PM  

Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.


Launched into the Sun only after the lawyer that enabled her idiocy is sent there first.
 
2013-01-31 03:23:41 PM  

Egoy3k: I_Am_Weasel: fruitloop: The most frequent of Ms. Simpson's purchases of Nestle Trans Fat Pizzas were at the Target

Well, there's your problem.

I'm not sure I'd buy a Nestle Trans Fat Pizza, you just don't know what is in it.


Doesn't matter.  She's from California.  Liberal bastion, therefore she's not required to have any personal responsibility.

What is up with the derp brigade lately, every thread it's always liberal this liberal that.

Hey morons! Cut it the hell out we too are busying making fun of idiots to listen to your partisan BS


Can we point out how California is a litigious hell hole when it comes to legal matters?
 
2013-01-31 03:24:16 PM  
I circumvent this problem by buying pizza dough and having the kids assemble their own pizzas. Fun activity, no wonky additives.
 
2013-01-31 03:30:37 PM  
Here's a great f'ing idea Biotch, quit buying crap food and fix them healthy meals.  Oh and GTH, Biotch.
 
2013-01-31 03:31:43 PM  

StrikitRich: Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.

Launched into the Sun only after the lawyer that enabled her idiocy is sent there first.


Ooooh, good point! We got so carried away getting angry at this thundercoont we forgot her equally guilty accomplice. We could use him as a solid state rocket booster for her lift off.

But we've decided that a sun launch is too good for her. And it's CERTAINLY too good for the lawyer. We're going to have to come up with something equally as arcane as the punishment we've decided on for her, and since lawyers deserve a special kind of hell, it'll have to be good.

/My first instinct is 'bullet ants meet genitalia'.
//For a start...
 
2013-01-31 03:35:50 PM  

katerbug72: Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.

[fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 850x566]

Best crust I ever made. I used Tuscan Herb olive oil in it. I could have just eaten the crust and been satisfied.


that looks awesome, thanks for posting it
 
2013-01-31 03:50:26 PM  

I want your skull: It isn't the company's fault that the FDA has asinine regulations regarding trans fat labeling.


Given the amount of lobbying done by the processed food industry, your statement may be far from factual.
 
2013-01-31 03:51:29 PM  
Pizza contains cheese, cheese contains milk, and diary fat contains trans-fat.  So the fact that there's cheese on the pizza -- if its real cheese made of non-skim milk -- implies that trans-fats must be present.  ZOMG!
 
2013-01-31 03:54:33 PM  

Smgth: StrikitRich: Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.

Launched into the Sun only after the lawyer that enabled her idiocy is sent there first.

Ooooh, good point! We got so carried away getting angry at this thundercoont we forgot her equally guilty accomplice. We could use him as a solid state rocket booster for her lift off.

But we've decided that a sun launch is too good for her. And it's CERTAINLY too good for the lawyer. We're going to have to come up with something equally as arcane as the punishment we've decided on for her, and since lawyers deserve a special kind of hell, it'll have to be good.

/My first instinct is 'bullet ants meet genitalia'.
//For a start...



tall, thin sapling
thin wet leather cord
rope
candle/cigar

Stakly lawyer out in open sunny area.  Bend sapling, tie with rope.  Attach wet leather cord tightly to lawyer genitalia, then sapling, keeping cord taut.  Light candle and place beneath rope.  Alternatively, light cigar and place against rope.

Set up lawn chair, get cold beer from cooler, relax.

Kick jar of bullet ants over several times just to keep them active while you wait....
 
2013-01-31 03:59:04 PM  

Dog Welder: katerbug72: Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.

[fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 850x566]

Best crust I ever made. I used Tuscan Herb olive oil in it. I could have just eaten the crust and been satisfied.

I use olive oil in mine, also (I'll need to try the Tuscan Herb olive oil).  Probably the best I've ever had it turn out was for a lobster pizza, though, because the "sauce" is a sauteed garlic in butter sauce and the butter got all up on the crust so it got totally crispy in the oven.

Yeah...so NOT healthy for you.


Sounds absolutely amazing though. I'll have to try that. :)
 
2013-01-31 04:03:58 PM  
This girl doesn't have a case since she purchased and consumed the products in question five times before raising a stink about it.
 
2013-01-31 04:05:46 PM  
Hmmm, seems like this is all the lawyer does.  And boy do I trust a guy looking like this...  http://www.thewestonfirm.com/people.html
 
2013-01-31 04:11:36 PM  
"located at 2911 Jamacha Road"

Pronounce "ham-a-shaw"

//my favorite street name in SD.
 
2013-01-31 04:15:38 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Smgth: StrikitRich: Smgth: All you people who are saying this woman should be punched (either in the face or...lower), shoud be ashamed!

This woman should NOT be punched!

She should be launched into the G-D D-MN SUN! This brainless subspecies of troglodyte coontwaffle should be tarred and feathered. It's people like this who make this country so awful. Stupid BS victim mentality combined with the great American past time of trying to acquire something for nothing.

/Wish she had eaten several dozen pizzas covered in ACTUAL poison.

Launched into the Sun only after the lawyer that enabled her idiocy is sent there first.

Ooooh, good point! We got so carried away getting angry at this thundercoont we forgot her equally guilty accomplice. We could use him as a solid state rocket booster for her lift off.

But we've decided that a sun launch is too good for her. And it's CERTAINLY too good for the lawyer. We're going to have to come up with something equally as arcane as the punishment we've decided on for her, and since lawyers deserve a special kind of hell, it'll have to be good.

/My first instinct is 'bullet ants meet genitalia'.
//For a start...


tall, thin sapling
thin wet leather cord
rope
candle/cigar

Stakly lawyer out in open sunny area.  Bend sapling, tie with rope.  Attach wet leather cord tightly to lawyer genitalia, then sapling, keeping cord taut.  Light candle and place beneath rope.  Alternatively, light cigar and place against rope.

Set up lawn chair, get cold beer from cooler, relax.

Kick jar of bullet ants over several times just to keep them active while you wait....


Interesting. I left mine vague because I wasn't sure if the lawyer was a guy or a girl.

/Bullet ants and genetalia would potentially be a LOT worse for a woman...
//I suggest for a male, the sapling thing but the bullet ants become suppository.
 
2013-01-31 04:25:13 PM  
It's pretty clear that trans-fat is poison.  The research has been out for years, and legislation banning it outright has even passed in some areas.

Fubini: Weston said the suit seeks all monies Nestle has ever made from frozenpizzas.


Good for her!  Although that money should be spread among the victims of this poison peddling ultramegacorporation.
 
2013-01-31 04:29:09 PM  
Smgth:

Interesting. I left mine vague because I wasn't sure if the lawyer was a guy or a girl.

/Bullet ants and genetalia would potentially be a LOT worse for a woman...
//I suggest for a male, the sapling thing but the bullet ants become suppository.


I'm ok with that.

I'm probably an awful, awful person for jumping to attorney was a male.  But I've been accused of worse things in my life.

:)
 
2013-01-31 04:30:47 PM  

pir8p3t3: The research has been out for years, and legislation banning it outright has even passed in some areas.


California's ban on trans fat in restaurants still allows 0.5gms per serving.  And the frozen pizza has no more than that.  The pizza would still be legal even if served in a restaurant where the trans fat was banned.

It's a bad food, no doubt, but I just don't see a way in which the corporation is liable.  Shoot, it's not like there were any damages in any case.
 
2013-01-31 04:33:44 PM  

Dog Welder: katerbug72: Dog Welder: This just in:  packaged frozen foods are not healthy for you.

If you want "healthy" pizza, make it from scratch.  It's really not difficult to make a decent pizza dough.  It might take a little more time, but it's worth it.

[fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 850x566]

Best crust I ever made. I used Tuscan Herb olive oil in it. I could have just eaten the crust and been satisfied.

I use olive oil in mine, also (I'll need to try the Tuscan Herb olive oil).  Probably the best I've ever had it turn out was for a lobster pizza, though, because the "sauce" is a sauteed garlic in butter sauce and the butter got all up on the crust so it got totally crispy in the oven.

Yeah...so NOT healthy for you.


That sounds delicious. Have you ever made a BBQ pork tenderloin pizza? Marinate a pork tenderloin and then BBQ it. Cool and slice/chop. Saute some red onion. Make the crust. Get a nice smoky BBQ sauce and slather that on the crust and top with pork and onions and add a cheddar/mozz mix or whatever cheese you like. It's soooooo good.
 
2013-01-31 04:40:07 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Smgth:

Interesting. I left mine vague because I wasn't sure if the lawyer was a guy or a girl.

/Bullet ants and genetalia would potentially be a LOT worse for a woman...
//I suggest for a male, the sapling thing but the bullet ants become suppository.

I'm ok with that.

I'm probably an awful, awful person for jumping to attorney was a male.  But I've been accused of worse things in my life.

:)


You may or may not be an awful person, but I think assuming a lawyer is a man is generally safe. Like many professions, the majority are males. Just a sad fact of our culture. If the lawyer is a woman, odds also say she's getting paid a lot less.

/Also, fark lawyers. Male or female. Either way, many of them deserve genital torture.
 
2013-01-31 04:43:55 PM  
Everyone panicking over trans fat, when all they have to do is exercise. I weep for the state of humanity.
 
2013-01-31 04:46:43 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Everyone panicking over trans fat, when all they have to do is exercise. I weep for the state of humanity.



o.onionstatic.com

Health Officials Urging Americans To Do Something, Anything For 30 Minutes A Day
http://www.theonion.com/video/health-officials-urging-americans-to-d o- something,31093/
 
2013-01-31 04:52:55 PM  

hockeychick: Hmmm, seems like this is all the lawyer does.  And boy do I trust a guy looking like this...  http://www.thewestonfirm.com/people.html


Whoa. The namesake lawyer looks like a tool. Graduated from OSU at 19? Maybe that is a picture of Gregory's son.
I don't know of many "law" firms that actively recruit with a link on their page. This is shady.
 
2013-01-31 04:57:25 PM  

Smgth: You may or may not be an awful person, but I think assuming a lawyer is a man is generally safe.


Just because a stereotype is statistically true doesn't mean its politically correct to apply stereotypes.  There are plenty of Fark threads that illustrate that point.
 
2013-01-31 05:05:55 PM  
She's feeding her kids a pizza that is probably around 350 calories and 20 grams of fat per serving...SHE should be the one on trial for "poisoning" her children.

/for the record, I feed my kids frozen pizzas on occasion- but it's alright, because they eat healthy food 95% of the time
//both are currently snacking on apples
///lawsuit is stupid
 
2013-01-31 05:26:29 PM  

GreenAdder: I'm going to sue the Philly Pizza Company for not having hot tea.


Perhaps you should instead jump up on the table and shout anarchy.
 
2013-01-31 05:33:06 PM  
It's California, she has a chance!
 
2013-01-31 05:43:12 PM  
She bought pizza she says was toxic.

Multiple times.

Then fed it to her children.

Child abuse, how does it work?
 
2013-01-31 06:08:05 PM  
" instead placing profits over public health and deliberately poisoning their consumers. "

IANAL but that sure does sound like libel to me,
 
2013-01-31 06:28:04 PM  

jshine: Smgth: You may or may not be an awful person, but I think assuming a lawyer is a man is generally safe.

Just because a stereotype is statistically true doesn't mean its politically correct to apply stereotypes.  There are plenty of Fark threads that illustrate that point.


Fair point. But I have no use for 'politically correct'. I don't think it helps anyone. Everyone should just toughen the frak up.
 
2013-01-31 06:29:25 PM  
Shakespeare again proven a prophet.  "For a start, let's kill all the lawyers."
 
2013-01-31 06:30:42 PM  

Jack's Smirking Revenge: GreenAdder: I'm going to sue the Philly Pizza Company for not having hot tea.

Perhaps you should instead jump up on the table and shout anarchy.


And someone played a Beach Boys song
On the jukebox
It was "California Dreamin'"
So we started screamin'
"On such a winter's day"

/One day I DID take a walk to Zipperhead. I still have the bag to prove it.
 
2013-01-31 06:59:00 PM  
So let's take a look at the 2 basic flaws in this bink's case:

The lawsuit says the frozen pizzas in question shouldn't contain a toxic food additive  banned all over the world, said Greg Weston, an attorney for the plaintiff.

Really?  Is it?  Truly?  Hmmmm, somehow I kinda doubt that (and I'm too lazy to research it).

Weston said the suit seeks all monies Nestle has ever made from frozen pizzas.

Well, there you go, Mr. Lawyer-man.... why don't you just stand up and say "My client is feeling particularly greedy and she's doing this only so someone can line her purse with cash."  Dumbass...
 
2013-01-31 07:06:07 PM  

Okoboji: So let's take a look at the 2 basic flaws in this bink's case:

The lawsuit says the frozen pizzas in question shouldn't contain a toxic food additive  banned all over the world, said Greg Weston, an attorney for the plaintiff.

Really?  Is it?  Truly?  Hmmmm, somehow I kinda doubt that (and I'm too lazy to research it).


I did my research - according the Greg Weston's statement, Austria, Iceland and Sweden represent the entire world.
 
2013-01-31 07:08:15 PM  

Gyrfalcon: 99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.

This. There's no picture of her, which means she's hideously overweight, and I'll bet dollars to donuts she just now started reading labels because she's on a "diet" and suddenly cares about whether there are "trans fats" in her food. And if you asked her, she couldn't tell you what a "trans fat" was except it's bad and could kill you or something.


Trans fat is...is... it's a TOXIN! And, um, everybody knows what toxins are. It's all over the internet!

/But she's totally okay with each serving having 34% of the RDA for sodium.
 
2013-01-31 07:12:30 PM  

WordyGrrl: Gyrfalcon: 99.998er: I am betting she is overweight, wears tank-tops & stretch pants, has overweight dirty kids, and has that, you know, that...that...smell to her. I know this type. I am always stuck behind them at the check out counter.

This. There's no picture of her, which means she's hideously overweight, and I'll bet dollars to donuts she just now started reading labels because she's on a "diet" and suddenly cares about whether there are "trans fats" in her food. And if you asked her, she couldn't tell you what a "trans fat" was except it's bad and could kill you or something.

Trans fat is...is... it's a TOXIN! And, um, everybody knows what toxins are. It's all over the internet!

/But she's totally okay with each serving having 34% of the RDA for sodium.


It's like the Bible, you pick and choose what toxins ACTUALLY COUNT as toxins. Gay toxins are toxins but combining fabric type toxins aren't.

/She only cares about poisoning her kids with transfats. If they due from anything else she doesn't care as it doesn't pay.
 
2013-01-31 07:14:47 PM  
*die
 
2013-01-31 07:31:35 PM  

Bukharin: Keizer_Ghidorah: Everyone panicking over trans fat, when all they have to do is exercise. I weep for the state of humanity.


[o.onionstatic.com image 350x196]

Health Officials Urging Americans To Do Something, Anything For 30 Minutes A Day
http://www.theonion.com/video/health-officials-urging-americans-to-d o- something,31093/


does walking to the bathroom every half hour at work count?  or is that a sign of diabetes?
 
2013-01-31 07:41:16 PM  
After eating trans fat pizza.  STILL ALIVE
 
2013-01-31 07:58:28 PM  

MrHappyRotter: After eating trans fat pizza.  STILL ALIVE


yeah but it's poison
like gluten

so that translates into "gimme the money"
 
2013-01-31 08:15:34 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-31 08:30:36 PM  
This woman should be shot standing next to the retard that sued mcdonalds over hot coffee
 
2013-01-31 08:41:30 PM  
looks like we need to fire up our "shoots-people-into-the-sun cannon" again...
 
2013-01-31 09:00:36 PM  

RockChalkH1N1: ...the retard that sued mcdonalds over hot coffee


You have strong opinions on things you obviously don't understand.
 
2013-01-31 09:05:45 PM  
Shocked she doesn't have a hyphenated last name.
 
2013-01-31 09:16:08 PM  
I spilled frozen pizza on my lap and it was really cold and gave me frostbite.

Payday.
 
2013-01-31 10:03:17 PM  
in Canada you have to list the ingredients in food.

then you decide if you're going to eat it.

you can't sue anybody for an informed decision  you made.
 
2013-01-31 10:20:03 PM  

Fubini: Weston said the suit seeks all monies Nestle has ever made from frozenpizzas.

Good luck with that.


Lol. I came here to post the same thing.
 
2013-01-31 10:44:33 PM  
McDonald's has some 'splaining to do, then. If California bans restaurants from serving trans fats (per Assembly Bill 97), why in the hell is McDonald's still in business there? Most of their better burgers have a gram or more each - all their Angus burgers have 2 grams of trans fat each.

What the hell, California?
 
2013-01-31 11:19:34 PM  

Shostie: I notice that these pizzas seem to contain gluten.

What kind of monster feeds glutenated food to their CHILDREN??? Does she want her kids to catch autism???


That's okay, my kids are vaccinated against autism.
 
2013-01-31 11:27:22 PM  

Worldwalker: She bought pizza she says was toxic.
Multiple times.
Then fed it to her children.
Child abuse, how does it work?


Munchausen by pizza.  We need more research money put into this--kids all over the country are being poisoned by their parents.
 
2013-01-31 11:58:35 PM  
"...an ingredient linked to heart disease, diabetes and cancer-she felt as if she were sold poison"

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-01 12:13:45 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: RockChalkH1N1: ...the retard that sued mcdonalds over hot coffee

You have strong opinions on things you obviously don't understand.



Woman put cup of coffee between her knees, reached for the far side of the lid and pulled the lid, resulting in the cup dumping in her lap.  She then sued McDOnalds on the grounds that the coffee was "too hot", even though 1) it was the same temp other places have it, 2) it was the correct temp as per any instructions for making coffee, and 3) only one person in 24,000,000 got burned by it.

What's not to understand?
 
2013-02-01 02:31:55 AM  

fredklein: Vegan Meat Popsicle: RockChalkH1N1: ...the retard that sued mcdonalds over hot coffee

You have strong opinions on things you obviously don't understand.


Woman put cup of coffee between her knees, reached for the far side of the lid and pulled the lid, resulting in the cup dumping in her lap.  She then sued McDOnalds on the grounds that the coffee was "too hot", even though 1) it was the same temp other places have it, 2) it was the correct temp as per any instructions for making coffee, and 3) only one person in 24,000,000 got burned by it.

What's not to understand?


Simple:

The coffee was not in fact the same temperature as other places have it; McDonald's admitted at the trial that it was considerably hotter.

It was only the correct temperature as per McDonald's instructions for making coffee, which does not mean it was at the correct temperature for a restaurant to serve coffee at (which is why they didn't).

Numerous other people were burned. While perhaps not a large percentage of the people who bought the coffee, it is still a lot more than the "one in 24 million" you claim. (at that level, it would require somewhat over twice the world's population to have bought McDonald's coffee!) They had already paid over half a million dollars in claims to other people who had been burned by their extremely hot coffee.

Further...

This was not a minor situation. Stella Liebeck had second- and third-degree burns over more than 20% of her body. She spent over a week in the hospital, and endured two years of further treatment. Burns are nasty that way. She did not, as usually stated, "immediately" sue McDonald's over the coffee incident. She just asked them to pay her medical bills, less than $20k. They offered her $800. After over a year, she finally filed a lawsuit against them.

The world is full of frivolous lawsuits (see: TFA) Stella Liebeck's case against McDonald's just doesn't happen to be one of them.
 
2013-02-01 03:36:58 AM  
Please can we now have the death penalty for asshats like this?  I know a lot of you don't like the eeeeeeeeeeevil corporations, but this is ridiculous.  This country is infested with greedy bastiches and idiot judges who don't throw these cases out of court.
 
2013-02-01 05:43:57 AM  

Moonfisher: I circumvent this problem by buying pizza dough and having the kids assemble their own pizzas. Fun activity, no wonky additives.


Mmmmmm... booger pizza.
 
2013-02-01 06:48:20 AM  
I'm surprised they haven't been sued before just for their awful pizza.
 
2013-02-01 08:42:17 AM  

Worldwalker: The coffee was not in fact the same temperature as other places have it; McDonald's admitted at the trial that it was considerably hotter.


Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck#Similar_lawsuits

Similar lawsuits against McDonald's in the United Kingdom failed. In Bogle v. McDonald's Restaurants Ltd.... "...Indeed, on the evidence, I find that the public want to be able to buy tea and coffee served hot, that is to say at a temperature of at least 65 °C,..."
...
Other major vendors of coffee, including Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, Wendy's and Burger King have been subjected to similar lawsuits over third-degree burns
...
Liebeck's attorney, Reed Morgan, and the Association of Trial Lawyers of America defend the lawsuit by claiming that McDonald's reduced the temperature of their coffee after the suit. ... McDonald's policy today is to serve coffee between 80-90 °C (176-194 °F) relying on more sternly-worded warnings...
...
Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote a unanimous 7th Circuit Court of Appeals opinion affirming dismissal of a similar lawsuit against coffeemaker manufacturer Bunn-O-Matic. The opinion noted that hot coffee (179 °F (82 °C) in this case) is not "unreasonably dangerous".


It was only the correct temperature as per McDonald's instructions for making coffee, which does not mean it was at the correct temperature for a restaurant to serve coffee at (which is why they didn't).

See above. Other places have it the same temp. Heck ,the National Coffee Association (and who better knows coffee??) says "Your brewer should maintain a water temperature between 195 - 205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction."..."Brewed coffee should be enjoyed immediately!" and "If it will be a few minutes before it will be served, the temperature should be maintained at 180 - 185 degrees Fahrenheit." (BTW- McDonalds had it at 185.)

Numerous other people were burned.

Yup. Stella's lawyer was able to show that there were 700 other burn cases.

Wow. 700. Sounds like a lot, huh?

Until you realize that was nationwide. And over 10 years. Oh, and those were "burns of any severity"- including minor first degree burns (red skin like sunburn). Oh, and those burns were from all causes- including things like an employee spilling it on a customer, or a faulty cup collapsing.

While perhaps not a large percentage of the people who bought the coffee, it is still a lot more than the "one in 24 million" you claim.

Wrong. If you bother to do the math, you'll find that only one cup of coffee in 24,000,000 resulted in a burn. Just to let you know, the odds of an average person living in the US being struck by lightning in a given year is 1/1,000,000, or 24 times higher than being burned by McDonalds coffee.

They had already paid over half a million dollars in claims to other people who had been burned by their extremely hot coffee.

As I said, those were different cases. If a poorly trained employee mis-handles a cup of hot coffee (say by holding it by the lid as they hand it out the drive-thru window) and dumps it on a customer, then of course McDonalds (who incorrectly trained  the employee) would be liable. Point is, without knowing the details of all those cases, we can't judge their legitimacy.

We can, however, judge THIS case's legitimacy. Stella Liebeck was not burned by an employee of McDonalds. She spilled the coffee on herself through careless handling of the cup.  The coffee was not too hot (see above). Therefore McDonalds was not liable.

Further...
This was not a minor situation. Stella Liebeck had second- and third-degree burns over more than 20% of her body. She spent over a week in the hospital, and endured two years of further treatment. Burns are nasty that way.


Yes, burns are nasty. But, no matter how nasty the injuries, McDonalds did not cause them.

She did not, as usually stated, "immediately" sue McDonald's over the coffee incident. She just asked them to pay her medical bills, less than $20k. They offered her $800. After over a year, she finally filed a lawsuit against them.

Her medical bills were $10,500. She asked for almost twice that- $20,000. Even throwing in "anticipated future medical expenses" and "loss of income" didn't make it that high. So get it out of your head that she 'only asked for medical expenses'.

The world is full of frivolous lawsuits (see: TFA) Stella Liebeck's case against McDonald's just doesn't happen to be one of them.

Actually, if you look at the actual facts, you'll see that it was.
 
2013-02-01 10:40:29 AM  

fredklein: She spilled the coffee on herself through careless handling of the cup. The coffee was not too hot (see above). Therefore McDonalds was not liable.


I agree with you fully on the temperature aspect... However, their coffee cups back then were pure shiat... Flimsy and fragile and not really appropriate for the job of containing such hot coffee... I remember accidentally crushing or poking holes through those old crappy cups on more than one occassion, back in that era... (Though, the worst damage I recall is coffee stains on clothes or car seats...) Compare them with the ones they use today: nice, thick, strong, sturdy foam cups... If they had those back then, maybe the accident wouldn't have happened... So, I can see them being liable just for using really crappy cups...
 
2013-02-01 10:52:41 AM  

RobSeace: their coffee cups back then were pure shiat... Flimsy and fragile and not really appropriate for the job of containing such hot coffee


And yet, somehow, 23,999,999 times out of 24,000,000, no one burned themselves. Hmm. They can't have been that bad.
 
2013-02-01 11:27:42 AM  

fredklein: RobSeace: their coffee cups back then were pure shiat... Flimsy and fragile and not really appropriate for the job of containing such hot coffee

And yet, somehow, 23,999,999 times out of 24,000,000, no one burned themselves. Hmm. They can't have been that bad.


No, I never got burned either... But, I still hated them... They were horrible, and totally inappropriate for serving any beverage in, let alone a near boiling one... If just holding the cup normally can result in it crushing or one of your fingers poking through the side, it's not a great design...

If they were so great, why'd they replace them with the far stronger ones they use today? As you noted, they didn't actually bother to lower their coffee temps, because that wasn't the problem... They figured out the real problem: their crappy old cups, and they did something about it...

Still, yes, you're right: you were still very unlikely to seriously burn yourself, even with the crappy old crushable cups, unless you were doing something pretty stupid... Like holding the cup between your legs... That's just crazy, even with a solid metal cup!
 
2013-02-01 12:23:11 PM  

RobSeace: you were still very unlikely to seriously burn yourself, even with the crappy old crushable cups, unless you were doing something pretty stupid... Like holding the cup between your legs... That's just crazy, even with a solid metal cup!


Not even between her legs- between her pointy old granny knees!  And even that would have been okay, if she hadn't pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it, thus causing the cup to pivot.

IF the cup had collapsed on her and burned her, I would think she had a legitimate case. But it was her own mis-handling of the cup that caused the spill.

why'd they replace them with the far stronger ones they use today

Time marches on. New materials, new processes, new suppliers, new cups. (Replace 'new' with 'cheaper' and it works, too).
 
2013-02-01 12:54:55 PM  

fredklein: Not even between her legs- between her pointy old granny knees!


Now, I'm picturing Jack Nicholson riding with her...

"You want me to hold the coffee, huh?"
"I want you to hold it between your knees!"
 
2013-02-01 02:10:22 PM  
Maybe if she acted like a real mom and cooked something for her kids instead of throwing out a farkin frozen pizza there would be no worries.
 
2013-02-01 03:47:32 PM  
I love pizza and I have tried most frozen pizzas but never CPK, just not a fan of their restaurant pizza so I figure I wouldn't like their frozen pizza.  I prefer my own home grown HEB brand pizza despite it's 6000mg of sodium (if you eat all 6 servings).
 
2013-02-01 07:13:52 PM  

jrodnewb: I love pizza and I have tried most frozen pizzas but never CPK, just not a fan of their restaurant pizza so I figure I wouldn't like their frozen pizza.  I prefer my own home grown HEB brand pizza despite it's 6000mg of sodium (if you eat all 6 servings).


which i will
minus napkins (15g of fiber)
 
2013-02-01 09:43:42 PM  

fredklein: Worldwalker: The coffee was not in fact the same temperature as other places have it; McDonald's admitted at the trial that it was considerably hotter.

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck#Similar_lawsuits

Similar lawsuits against McDonald's in the United Kingdom failed. In Bogle v. McDonald's Restaurants Ltd.... "...Indeed, on the evidence, I find that the public want to be able to buy tea and coffee served hot, that is to say at a temperature of at least 65 °C,..."
...
Other major vendors of coffee, including Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, Wendy's and Burger King have been subjected to similar lawsuits over third-degree burns
...
Liebeck's attorney, Reed Morgan, and the Association of Trial Lawyers of America defend the lawsuit by claiming that McDonald's reduced the temperature of their coffee after the suit. ... McDonald's policy today is to serve coffee between 80-90 °C (176-194 °F) relying on more sternly-worded warnings...
...
Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote a unanimous 7th Circuit Court of Appeals opinion affirming dismissal of a similar lawsuit against coffeemaker manufacturer Bunn-O-Matic. The opinion noted that hot coffee (179 °F (82 °C) in this case) is not "unreasonably dangerous".

It was only the correct temperature as per McDonald's instructions for making coffee, which does not mean it was at the correct temperature for a restaurant to serve coffee at (which is why they didn't).

See above. Other places have it the same temp. Heck ,the National Coffee Association (and who better knows coffee??) says "Your brewer should maintain a water temperature between 195 - 205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction."..."Brewed coffee should be enjoyed immediately!" and "If it will be a few minutes before it will be served, the temperature should be maintained at 180 - 185 degrees Fahrenheit." (BTW- McDonalds had it at 185.)

Numerous other people were burned.

Yup. Stella's lawyer was able to show that there were 700 other burn cases.

Wow. 700. Sounds l ...


No, Fredklein, you are wrong.

You are pretty sneaky with your selective quotes up there, in bold, from the National Coffee Association.  The page you got that from is here. http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=71

The water used to make the coffee should be between 195 & 205 degrees. Then is has to be poured over the grounds to let steep for a few minutes, depending on the apparatus. This process lowers the temperature of the original water considerably. It then states that if the coffee isn't going to be consumed for a few minutes, it should be held at 180 - 185 degrees. This all assumes that it will be a few momments before you actually consume it. Hell, at the end it says to "Take a moment to smell the aroma". You make it seem like they recommend you chug it straight from the drip! I'm sure the farking Baked Potato Society recommends to "enjoy immediately" but doesn't expect you just grab one out of a hot oven and start eating it like an apple!

And since you linked to the wiki page about the case, you know that she had horrible third degree burns that needed skin grafts, and that she was only asking for McDonald's to pay here medical bills.  It only turned into a large sum after McDonald's only threw $800 at her and told her to hit the bricks.

This is and interesting article about the case. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm
It states:
"Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185 degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above, and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of its coffee."
And:
"McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or home, intending to consume it there. However, the companys own research showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving. "

They new about the problem and just didn't give a shiat, until it bit them in the arse. Or should I say the crotch. (NSFW Pics of Stella Liebeck's actual injuries)
 
2013-02-01 10:51:34 PM  

Sentimental Gentleman: No, Fredklein, you are wrong.

You are pretty sneaky with your selective quotes up there, in bold, from the National Coffee Association. The page you got that from is here. http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=71


Is this supposed to impress me?

The water used to make the coffee should be between 195 & 205 degrees. Then is has to be poured over the grounds to let steep for a few minutes, depending on the apparatus. This process lowers the temperature of the original water considerably.

Not "considerably", because...

It then states that if the coffee isn't going to be consumed for a few minutes, it should be held at 180 - 185 degrees.

, so it can't be lower than that.

And since you linked to the wiki page about the case, you know that she had horrible third degree burns that needed skin grafts, and that she was only asking for McDonald's to pay here medical bills. It only turned into a large sum after McDonald's only threw $800 at her and told her to hit the bricks.

I already went into that: Her medical bills were $10,500. She asked for almost twice that- $20,000. Even throwing in "anticipated future medical expenses" and "loss of income" didn't make it that high. So get it out of your head that she 'only asked for medical expenses'.


"Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager...testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above,

That's the thing- due to health codes, ALL 'hot' food needs to be kept above 140 degrees to retard bacterial growth. Thus, ALL 'hot' food is, technically, a burn hazard. Restaurants can't hand-hold every single customer. Nor should they have to.

and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of its coffee."

As you said, if you grab a baked potato straight out of the oven and munch it like an apple, you'll get burned, too. The eater is responsible for the safe handling and consumption of the food.

While the coffee might fit the technical legal definition of 'not fit for consumption', I'll remind you that tapping someone in the shoulder fits the technical legal definition of 'assault and battery'.

They new about the problem and just didn't give a shiat, until it bit them in the arse. Or should I say the crotch.

Again, it was not a problem for most people. Practically everyone else managed to drink this "unfit for consumption" coffee with absolutely no problems. I can't understand the thinking of people who claim it was "dangerous" or "unfit for consumption", when, statistically, there were practically no injuries caused by it. (and yes, 1/24,000,000 is practically 0- it's 0.0000000416666667) Add in the fact that we don't know about the circumstances of those other cases- was it an employee spilling it on a customer, or a customer spilling it on another customer, or a self-spill?

Don't get me wrong, burns are bad. Burns to the crotch are worse. I wouldn't wish burns on my worst enemy. But how bad the injury is is irrelevant to the fact of who caused the injury. Stella caused her own injury, through careless handling of the coffee. It could have been boiling (212 degrees), and if she handled it properly, she would not have been burned. It could have been 170, 160, even 150, and if she handled it carelessly, she still would have been burned. Whether or not she was burned did not depend on the temp of the coffee*, but rather her handling of it. It was her fault, not McDonalds'. I feel sorry for her, but not to the point of ignoring the fact it was her own fault.

*Unless you seriously believe that coffee should be served barely above room temp. Which kinda goes against the whole idea of 'coffee as a hot beverage'
 
2013-02-02 02:55:34 AM  
All this arguing and still Big Doggy Dog is still killing children unimpeded.
 
2013-02-03 03:36:55 PM  

fredklein: Sentimental Gentleman: No, Fredklein, you are wrong.

You are pretty sneaky with your selective quotes up there, in bold, from the National Coffee Association. The page you got that from is here. http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=71

Is this supposed to impress me?

The water used to make the coffee should be between 195 & 205 degrees. Then is has to be poured over the grounds to let steep for a few minutes, depending on the apparatus. This process lowers the temperature of the original water considerably.

Not "considerably", because...

It then states that if the coffee isn't going to be consumed for a few minutes, it should be held at 180 - 185 degrees.

, so it can't be lower than that.

And since you linked to the wiki page about the case, you know that she had horrible third degree burns that needed skin grafts, and that she was only asking for McDonald's to pay here medical bills. It only turned into a large sum after McDonald's only threw $800 at her and told her to hit the bricks.

I already went into that: Her medical bills were $10,500. She asked for almost twice that- $20,000. Even throwing in "anticipated future medical expenses" and "loss of income" didn't make it that high. So get it out of your head that she 'only asked for medical expenses'.


"Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager...testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above,

That's the thing- due to health codes, ALL 'hot' food needs to be kept above 140 degrees to retard bacterial growth. Thus, ALL 'hot' food is, technically, a burn hazard. Restaurants can't hand-hold every single customer. Nor should they have to.

and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of ...


The whole point of the lawsuit was that the coffee was to hot.  If the coffee wasn't to hot the burns wouldn't have been as bad or none existent.  Yes, she spilled the coffee: Her mistake.  But the coffee was too hot, hot enough to cause the awful burns: McDonald's mistake.  That is my opinion and 12 jurors agree with me.
 
2013-02-03 04:05:41 PM  

Sentimental Gentleman: The whole point of the lawsuit was that the coffee was to hot.


And yet, I have shown that it wasn't- it was at the same temp other places serve it, and it was at the temp that the National Coffee Association says it should be. Heck, it was at the same temp that home coffee makers have it at.

If the coffee wasn't to hot the burns wouldn't have been as bad or none existent.

This is true. And if cars were limited to 1mph, there's be few if any accidents.

Of course, that would kinda ruin the point of cars- fast transportation. And having hot coffee be... not hot... would ruin the point of having coffee.

Yes, she spilled the coffee: Her mistake.

And it was that "mistake" that led to her injuries.

But the coffee was too hot,

Argumentum ad repeatium?

That is my opinion and 12 jurors agree with me.

Well, I now know of 13 people who don't think logically.
 
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