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2013-01-31 10:37:11 AM
Seems the GOP has gone to manufacturing Ignorant Hate...

Must be a decent profit margin if they are involved.
 
2013-01-31 10:43:57 AM
She literally got her head blown off.
 
2013-01-31 10:44:30 AM
I think the GOP is about as low as it can get if they're reduced to this.

Really, Republicans.  Have some self-respect.  You guys are pretty much pond scum at this point.
 
2013-01-31 10:44:51 AM
So she was more gravely wounded than we originally thought, and still made the speech?  I'm not sure where you guys are going with this, but the chickens are scared.
 
2013-01-31 10:47:14 AM
michellemalkinisanidiot.com
 
2013-01-31 10:49:20 AM
C*nt isn't a word I use very often at all. But it applies to Malkin.
 
2013-01-31 10:49:43 AM
Are you farking kidding me? Just the fact that she read the speech is a miracle. I swear the GOP are just a bunch of trolls, but that's giving them too much credit.
 
2013-01-31 10:50:55 AM
I can understand why the Right is confused. Usually when someone suffers that dramatic and that violent a brain injury, they run as a Republican.
 
2013-01-31 10:53:28 AM

BunkoSquad: I can understand why the Right is confused. Usually when someone suffers that dramatic and that violent a brain injury, they run as a Republican.


Thread over.
 
2013-01-31 10:54:34 AM

BunkoSquad: I can understand why the Right is confused. Usually when someone suffers that dramatic and that violent a brain injury, they run as a Republican.


I can't believe it took this long.
 
2013-01-31 11:02:57 AM
The fact that she's able to stand up there and give a speech, regardless of who wrote it, is good enough.
 
2013-01-31 11:14:05 AM
The real gun problem is the wrong people are getting shot
 
2013-01-31 11:17:58 AM

Vodka Zombie: I think the GOP is about as low as it can get if they're reduced to this.


Maybe you don't remember what they said about Max Cleland.
 
2013-01-31 11:20:46 AM
Oh, well that changes EVERYTHING!!

I bet that wasn't really her blood and brain matter all over the ground, either!!1!

Go f*ck yourself, Malkin, and DIAF...slowly and painfully.
 
2013-01-31 11:23:57 AM
So they're... making fun of someone whose violent assassination attempt left them severely handicapped?  Very peculiar political strategy, that.
 
2013-01-31 11:27:14 AM

nekom: So they're... making fun of someone whose violent assassination attempt left them severely handicapped? Very peculiar political strategy, that.


They're just asking questions!

Disgusting, reprehensible questions that no person with an ounce of common sense and human decency would ask, but I mean, look who we're talking about here.
 
2013-01-31 11:36:20 AM

nekom: So they're... making fun of someone whose violent assassination attempt left them severely handicapped?  Very peculiar political strategy, that.


They went with that whole "Rape" strategy in the last election, I think they've gone off the rails.
 
2013-01-31 12:14:45 PM
Someone needs to shoot Michelle Malkin in the head, non-fatally of course, and see how well she does with the simple challenges of life.

Republicans have no empathy, compassion of farking common sense.
 
2013-01-31 12:23:17 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Someone needs to shoot Michelle Malkin in the head, non-fatally of course, and see how well she does with the simple challenges of life.

Republicans have no empathy, compassion of farking common sense.


I'm betting there'd be no noticeable effect at all
 
2013-01-31 12:32:33 PM

AdolfOliverPanties:
Republicans have no empathy, compassion of farking common sense.


Sure is starting to look that way. I'm holding out hope that they will turn it around, because I'd like to see two viable parties. I'd like a real choice, two good options to weigh. Not a choice between "Not my ideal candidate, but rational" and "Totally off the farking rails"
 
2013-01-31 01:42:40 PM
assets.diylol.com
 
2013-01-31 01:48:11 PM
Brady's speeches don't count because he never walked up to the podium!
 
2013-01-31 01:48:31 PM
Gabby Giffords is more cogent with half a brain than most Republicans are.
 
2013-01-31 01:54:49 PM
Somewhere there's a sane -- for now -- Republican Public Relations staffer drinking a bottle of vodka so big it generates its own gravity.
 
2013-01-31 02:13:29 PM
static01.mediaite.com

Nice sentiments.  Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

www.calwatchdog.com
 
2013-01-31 02:16:12 PM
I would like to suggest an experiment.
 
2013-01-31 02:17:08 PM

dittybopper: Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:


Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?
 
2013-01-31 02:18:24 PM

dittybopper: Nice sentiments. Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:


nice sentiment except "murder rate" is not interchangeable with "gun violence."

/has no data to offer
 
2013-01-31 02:24:26 PM

dittybopper: [static01.mediaite.com image 517x675]

Nice sentiments.  Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

[www.calwatchdog.com image 850x566]


Which part is wrong?

I don't see any claim that violence is increasing, just that it's a "big problem" and "too many" are dying.

You can disagree, but your chart doesn't address anything she said.
 
2013-01-31 02:24:49 PM

dittybopper: [static01.mediaite.com image 517x675]

Nice sentiments.  Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

[www.calwatchdog.com image 850x566]


Did you happen to notice that the deepest decline came in the 80's and 90's after the passage of the Brady bill and the original assault weapons ban?
 
2013-01-31 02:25:04 PM

sigdiamond2000: Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?


I'll tell ya, it takes a special kind of Farker to read "Too many people are dying. Too many children" and have the immediate reaction to post what they think is a counteracting graph.
 
2013-01-31 02:25:26 PM
In fact, looking at that chart, homicide rates are significantly lower than when I was born, and they are trending down.

You can't even argue the "more kids are being killed!" angle, because those are down also:  The year of Columbine, 1999, the homicide rate for school age kids (5 to 18) was 3.29 per 100,000.  In 2010, last year the CDC had records for, the rate was 2.55 per 100,000. (Source is CDC WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports)

We're trending in the right direction without having to infringe upon the rights of others.  Using emotional appeals is a cheap shot meant to deflect attention away from the fact that there isn't an urgent need to take action.
 
2013-01-31 02:27:37 PM

BunkoSquad: sigdiamond2000: Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?

I'll tell ya, it takes a special kind of Farker to read "Too many people are dying. Too many children" and have the immediate reaction to post what they think is a counteracting graph.


Fewer children are dying, probably, therefore

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-31 02:27:41 PM

dittybopper: In fact, looking at that chart, homicide rates are significantly lower than when I was born, and they are trending down.

You can't even argue the "more kids are being killed!" angle, because those are down also:  The year of Columbine, 1999, the homicide rate for school age kids (5 to 18) was 3.29 per 100,000.  In 2010, last year the CDC had records for, the rate was 2.55 per 100,000. (Source is CDC WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports)

We're trending in the right direction without having to infringe upon the rights of others.  Using emotional appeals is a cheap shot meant to deflect attention away from the fact that there isn't an urgent need to take action.


You are STILL arguing against things she didn't say.
 
2013-01-31 02:27:52 PM

dittybopper: "more kids are being killed!"


She didn't say that.
 
2013-01-31 02:29:16 PM
Gabby Giffords is completely wrong about children dying in fires caused by playing with matches.

From 2000-2010, there was a decrease in the deaths caused by children playing with matches.

Stupid Libs.
 
2013-01-31 02:30:16 PM

vernonFL: dittybopper: "more kids are being killed!"

She didn't say that.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-31 02:32:23 PM

nekom: AdolfOliverPanties:
Republicans have no empathy, compassion of farking common sense.

Sure is starting to look that way. I'm holding out hope that they will turn it around, because I'd like to see two viable parties. I'd like a real choice, two good options to weigh. Not a choice between "Not my ideal candidate, but rational" and "Totally off the farking rails"


I can't see it happening soon.  If you kicked out people in the Republican party who:
-think religion should be legislated
-hate Obama because he's black, although they say "Muslim" instead of the n-word
-hate anyone else who's not white-white-white
-hate gays/women having sex because if they're not gettin' any, neither should anyone else
-talk about overthrowing the elected government just because their side lost
-are puppets of banks/corporations from campaign donations

there would probably be about four fiscal conservatives standing around wondering how low the Fed can keep the base interest rate low, how the US can every repay the unpayable Federal Debt, and projections on when Social Security will be unable to make committed payments.
 
2013-01-31 02:37:07 PM

sigdiamond2000: dittybopper: Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?


"Gun violence is a big problem

Too many people are dying

Too many children

We must do something"

Sounds to me like it's a homicide issue.  She's making the case directly that gun violence is a big problem, but gun violence is lower than it has been in almost all of our lives.  Certainly, it's lower than it's ever been in *MY* life.  It's lower than it's been in over 50 years.

In fact, according to this, it hasn't been this low (4.2 per 100,000) for over 100 years:

thepublicintellectual.org

Yes, it's that farkin' low.

But all of a sudden, we have to act!

It's called a "moral panic", and many of you are falling for it.
 
2013-01-31 02:38:25 PM
Christ what an asshole.
 
2013-01-31 02:39:25 PM
Come on, people, this is important! This means...something!
 
2013-01-31 02:43:22 PM

Jackson Herring: vernonFL: dittybopper: "more kids are being killed!"

She didn't say that.

[i.imgur.com image 517x675]


I'm debating whether the speech image would make the best photoshop contest ever or the worst photoshop contest ever.
 
2013-01-31 02:45:55 PM

NuttierThanEver: dittybopper: [static01.mediaite.com image 517x675]

Nice sentiments.  Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

[www.calwatchdog.com image 850x566]

Did you happen to notice that the deepest decline came in the 80's and 90's after the passage of the Brady bill and the original assault weapons ban?


Did you not notice that the trend downward started at the peak in 1991, 2 and 3 years before those were enacted?   Was Clinton's legacy that legislation he signed could retroactively effect homicide rates?

I could make a better argument for the expiration of the Assault Weapons Ban in 2004 is responsible for the subsequent rapid fall in homicide rates, because it happens wholly after the ban expired, starting in 2005 and going on to the present day.
 
2013-01-31 02:47:06 PM
The statistic comes from a study by Erin G. Richardson and David Hemenway, "Homicide, suicide, and unintentional firearm fatality: comparing the United States with other high-income countries, 2003." The report looked at firearm deaths in 23 populous high-income countries, as reported to the World Health Organization for 2003.

Richardson and Hemenway: Total population for the United States for 2003 was 290.8 million; the combined population for the other 22 countries was 563.5 million. There were 29,771 firearm deaths in the United States and 7,653 firearms deaths in the 22 other countries. Thus, among these 23 countries, 80 percent of all firearm deaths occurred in the United States in 2003, and 86 percent of all women killed by firearms were US women, and 87 percent of all children aged 0 to 14 killed by firearms were U.S. children.
 
2013-01-31 02:47:36 PM

dittybopper: sigdiamond2000: dittybopper: Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?

"Gun violence is a big problem

Too many people are dying

Too many children

We must do something"

Sounds to me like it's a homicide issue.  She's making the case directly that gun violence is a big problem, but gun violence is lower than it has been in almost all of our lives.  Certainly, it's lower than it's ever been in *MY* life.  It's lower than it's been in over 50 years.

In fact, according to this, it hasn't been this low (4.2 per 100,000) for over 100 years:

[thepublicintellectual.org image 707x558]

Yes, it's that farkin' low.

But all of a sudden, we have to act!

It's called a "moral panic", and many of you are falling for it.


You might want to compare the US homicide rate per capita and the violent crime rate per capita to the rest of western civilisation.

That is where the 'too many dead people' argument comes from.
 
2013-01-31 02:47:40 PM

vernonFL: dittybopper: "more kids are being killed!"

She didn't say that.


I didn't say she did.  I said "You can't even argue the "more kids are being killed!" angle, because those are down also"

Nice selective quoting on your part, though.  Keep up the good work!

/Sarcasm.
 
2013-01-31 02:50:38 PM
They're just pissed that she didn't write it on her hand like a Real 'Murcan would.
 
2013-01-31 02:52:20 PM

dittybopper: sigdiamond2000: dittybopper: Except that it's wrong, because the US homicide rate hasn't been this low since Kennedy was president:

Is the part about the U.S. homicide rate written on the back of the note?

"Gun violence is a big problem

Too many people are dying

Too many children

We must do something"

Sounds to me like it's a homicide issue.  She's making the case directly that gun violence is a big problem, but gun violence is lower than it has been in almost all of our lives.  Certainly, it's lower than it's ever been in *MY* life.  It's lower than it's been in over 50 years.

In fact, according to this, it hasn't been this low (4.2 per 100,000) for over 100 years:

[thepublicintellectual.org image 707x558]

Yes, it's that farkin' low.

But all of a sudden, we have to act!

It's called a "moral panic", and many of you are falling for it.


Oh, so you're not arguing about what she said, you're arguing about what she really meant.

Carry on, Kreskin.
 
2013-01-31 02:53:38 PM

Jackson Herring: i.imgur.com


That reads like the first draft of an update to Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On".

Mother, mother
There's too many of you crying, though fewer than in 1991
Brother, brother, brother
There's far too many of you dying, though we can't solve that through legislation
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some rational discussion of what tends to be an emotional issue here today!


I'd ask Marvin Gaye for permission to record it...but, y'know, he got shot.
 
2013-01-31 02:55:23 PM

ariseatex: Jackson Herring: vernonFL: dittybopper: "more kids are being killed!"

She didn't say that.

[i.imgur.com image 517x675]

I'm debating whether the speech image would make the best photoshop contest ever or the worst photoshop contest ever.


yeah probably
 
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