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(Huffington Post)   Despite what mass media and your gut tells you, historically, the world has never had it this peaceful   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 10
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2013-01-31 05:58:06 PM  
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Nunya_Bizness: J. Frank Parnell: SkittlesAreYum: How is that not reasonable? The world's population is (so far at least) always increasing. If you don't account for that your results are meaningless.

It's unreasonable because they pretend there is more peace than ever before, when in actuality there is more war than ever, and they're just hiding that detail under population statistics.

If they said something like "each persons chances of being killed in combat are smaller than ever!" then it would be a reasonable conclusion to make using per capita statistics.

Have any thing to back this statement up? A quick glance of History would seem to indicate this statement is complete fallacy. Lets see, the Successor Kingdoms, First unification of China,the fall of the Roman Empire, The Dark ages, Napoleonic Wars, WW 1, WW 2, just off the top of my head. All periods of History which involved massive loss of life across huge portions of the world.


The Mongol conquests killed literally one out of every five people on the planet over the span of about 200 years, and several Chinese civil wars have killed more than one out of every ten people on the planet.
2013-01-31 02:10:02 PM  
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t3knomanser: everybodylookattheirpants: Can't much of this be explained by the fact that Europe is having an unprecedented stretch of not killing one another?

They'll be back at it before you know it. This is Europe, after all.


That's why I always find it funny when right wingers make fun of "pansy" Europeans. The deadliest wars and human-made atrocities since the Mongol conquests all started in or because of Europe. The Europeans aren't pansies - they try for peace so hard because they've seen first hand what happens in war.
2013-01-31 01:35:36 PM  
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J. Frank Parnell: Smidge204: Actually perfectly reasonable, even if the total number of people affected by violence has increased, if the number affected per capita is lower then you, as an individual, are less likely to be affected.

Yes, per capita there is less violence. But it does not prove there are less people being killed and less violence overall than ever before, like the article tries to claim.


If we agree that you've made your nonsensical, overly pedantic point will you stop?
2013-01-31 12:40:12 PM  
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Well, compared to the middle ages gun violence is WAY up, but claymore and broadsword related violence is astoundingly low.
2013-01-31 12:38:11 PM  
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Disposable Rob: FTFA:   The rate of genocide deaths per world population was 1,400 times higher in 1942 than in 2008.

I wonder why that could be.


Yeah that's a pretty farking stupid comparison.

The rate of plague deaths per world population was 10,000% greater in the 1300s than the 2000s!  Looks like we can stop all medical research, we've won!
2013-01-31 11:52:02 AM  
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FTFA:   The rate of genocide deaths per world population was 1,400 times higher in 1942 than in 2008.

I wonder why that could be.
2013-01-31 11:44:56 AM  
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everybodylookattheirpants: Can't much of this be explained by the fact that Europe is having an unprecedented stretch of not killing one another?


They'll be back at it before you know it. This is Europe, after all.
2013-01-31 11:04:25 AM  
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Pax Americana
2013-01-31 11:02:37 AM  
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Despite the constant shrill shrieking of media types, children are safer out of doors now than the average farker was back in the days of Commodore-64s and Missile Command.
2013-01-31 10:15:58 AM  
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Generation_D: Its true.  I haven't seen a Highwayman in years.   I can walk around without a sidearm almost everywhere.

On the other hand, rural guys who can't fit into the big city and wind up shooting innocent people to get even, we've had several of those in recent years*

Over all we're safer, but random asswits with assault weapons is probably at an all time high now.


* Cafe Racer massacre; Kyle Huff's massacre; the Jewish Legal Foundation massacre .. 3 high profile Seattle crimes where a lone misfit asshat (2 white, one islamic) decided it was every one else's fault but his own that life sucked, and took out revenge on innocent people, armed to the teeth.  Kyle Huff shot up a house party that had teenagers, Cafe Racer's killer had 10:30 am bistro customers and staff, and the Jewish Legal Foundation (his name was Haq) killer had office workers who had never met the shooter.  Haq's parents were high pressure "Y U No Get A" types, and Haq was a failure at life engineering student dropout who dad had pulled strings to get out of misdemeanors before.

In all 3, massive amounts of personal weaponry were the difference between a lone dipsh*t and five to 10 dead innocent people.


Thanks for a typically American answer by redefining a more peaceful world as false because of a singular American act.
 
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