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(Popular Science)   Will humans survive long enough to become homo futurus?   (popsci.com) divider line 35
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2013-01-31 09:44:03 AM
No.
/maybe
//Yes?
 
2013-01-31 09:47:49 AM
I for one welcome our Archailects
 
2013-01-31 09:49:19 AM
i935.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-31 09:50:01 AM
<I>Transhumanists foresee a time when beings will emerge who will literally be part biology and part machine. </i>

Ultimately, barring catastrophic destruction of the environment, culture, and technology, this is likely to be the only avenue of evolution left to us. With few exceptions (such as the high-altitude Sherpas, who some evolutionary biologists consider to be a subspecies because they've evolved to thrive in an environment that would kill most people), homo sapiens stopped evolving thousands of years ago.  Once we started adapting our environment to us instead of us adapting to our environment, the usual evolutionary pressures lessened.
 
2013-01-31 10:01:18 AM
The problem with The Future is that it never farking happens.
 
2013-01-31 10:05:30 AM
That took a long time to get to the point. For a while I was wondering if the author was endorsing going Amish. But no, it's just the cyborg thing again.
 
2013-01-31 10:13:11 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: homo sapiens stopped evolving thousands of years ago


Wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
2013-01-31 10:19:21 AM
How about a whole set of futurus? The cyborgs, the biologically modifed, aero adapted, weightless adapted and so on. Give it a few generations and non-modified are likely to start becoming the minority either via gene adaptation or post-birth mods.

And doubtless there will be a clique that refuse any alteration and get all high and mighty about being "proper humans". And they will be endlessly trolled by the cyborg space bronies.
 
2013-01-31 10:43:59 AM
No Homo!
 
2013-01-31 10:45:15 AM
I dunno. Anyone else feel like going to get some Brawndo?
 
2013-01-31 10:50:28 AM
Everyday we are around, we've evolving into the next humans. It's just slow, we can't see it happening.
 
2013-01-31 10:53:16 AM
See, the Godless, Atheist, Liberal Scientists have finally admitted it! Evolution is just a plot to make us all Homos in the future!
 
2013-01-31 10:57:33 AM

King Keepo: How about a whole set of futurus? The cyborgs, the biologically modifed, aero adapted, weightless adapted and so on. Give it a few generations and non-modified are likely to start becoming the minority either via gene adaptation or post-birth mods.

And doubtless there will be a clique that refuse any alteration and get all high and mighty about being "proper humans". And they will be endlessly trolled by the cyborg space bronies.


They will probably brag about not even owning a holo- band.
 
2013-01-31 11:13:59 AM
Do we have a summon card for Quantum Apostraphe yet? Someone needs to get on that.
 
2013-01-31 12:01:02 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Everyday we are around, we've evolving into the next humans. It's just slow, we can't see it happening.


I DRTFA, but assuming it really is about becoming the next hominid species and not just developing a gut that can digest lactose humans aren't in a position where they can form a new species right now.

One of the big requirements for speciation is isolation of a population, the smaller the isolated group the easier it is for speciation to happen. That's the critical part that's missing from our current population that will prevent a new species from forming.

Since world distances are largely irrelevant now (you can get from damn near any populated location on Earth to damn near any other one in 24 hours) there is nothing preventing any new genes from mixing into the pool and effectively going away. If start populating areas that take a substantial portion of a person's life to visit, then we can start developing the necessary genetic diversity to actually start forming new species again.

But yeah, right now we're still evolving. I think the major set of genes being selected for at the moment is the ability to thrive while sitting on your ass eating junk food and not getting fat.
 
2013-01-31 12:56:16 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

great, i'm going to have to blow these fools up all over again.
 
2013-01-31 01:02:21 PM
Is homo futurus the same thing as homo superior?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-31 01:09:12 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-31 01:36:32 PM

pute kisses like a man: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 325x432]

great, i'm going to have to blow these fools up all over again.


Came for this.

Also, you don't <i>really</i> want to blow them up. In the game and the book, Artyom learns too late that they're peaceful and only wanted to help mankind survive. It was the actions of a insular human race that made them seem like they were evil.

/anxiously awaiting 2034 translation
//will probably wait 4 years for it like I did with 2033
 
2013-01-31 01:58:38 PM

tallen702: pute kisses like a man: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 325x432]

great, i'm going to have to blow these fools up all over again.

Came for this.

Also, you don't <i>really</i> want to blow them up. In the game and the book, Artyom learns too late that they're peaceful and only wanted to help mankind survive. It was the actions of a insular human race that made them seem like they were evil.

/anxiously awaiting 2034 translation
//will probably wait 4 years for it like I did with 2033


oh i know, i didn't blow them up last time i ran through it (and got a secret achievement for it!  there really should be more secret achievements)... but, the sequel decides that you blew them up.
 
2013-01-31 02:07:13 PM
If only Barion and Coyul had left the primates alone.
 
2013-01-31 02:07:54 PM

pute kisses like a man: tallen702: pute kisses like a man: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 325x432]

great, i'm going to have to blow these fools up all over again.

Came for this.

Also, you don't <i>really</i> want to blow them up. In the game and the book, Artyom learns too late that they're peaceful and only wanted to help mankind survive. It was the actions of a insular human race that made them seem like they were evil.

/anxiously awaiting 2034 translation
//will probably wait 4 years for it like I did with 2033

oh i know, i didn't blow them up last time i ran through it (and got a secret achievement for it!  there really should be more secret achievements)... but, the sequel decides that you blew them up.


Yes, it does, which make sense since in the book, Artyom does so as well. Also, I cannot farking wait for March to get here so Last Light comes out!
 
2013-01-31 02:26:10 PM
I've always been of the opinion that self-directed evolution is the endpoint towards which intelligent species evolve. Purposeful DNA manipulation will exponentially speed our evolution, likely sparking many new species of human.

While we may currently think of such things as taboo, I see them as ultimately inevitable. Either attitudes will change as religion and superstition continue to decline, or, more likely, we'll have a crisis of survival as a species, and genetically engineering our offspring will be our best hope to avoid extinction.

/Or maybe I just read too much dystopian sci-fi...
 
2013-01-31 03:00:50 PM
collider.com
 
2013-01-31 03:17:33 PM

MrJesus: Quantum Apostraphe




i106.photobucket.com

That useful?
 
2013-01-31 03:23:15 PM

KellyX: MrJesus: Quantum Apostraphe

[i106.photobucket.com image 525x750]

That useful?


Yes. I award you one internet.
 
2013-01-31 09:28:18 PM

mutterfark: If only Barion and Coyul had left the primates alone.


THAT is farking obscure, and thank you for it.
 
2013-01-31 10:21:24 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x391]


The thing I remember most was...

"The computer can create any food you can wish for"

"I'll have fish and chips"

How freaking original...British show... fish and chips, which they probably have for breakfast, lunch and supper...... I was imagining the computer flipping out.
 
2013-02-01 12:39:59 AM
 
2013-02-01 01:06:01 AM
No, the future human will be the one who can deal with Future Shock.

Modern life is constantly in flux, expectations of others on you is that you're constantly available.

And there are so many choices and you are having to absorb so much, that you have to be flexible.

Ignorance is not bliss...and society is quickly making those who can adjust & adapt quickly at the top of the food chain.
As are those who are looking for the best mate.

Can you deal with the stress of constant change???
Can you learn quickly?  Can you make good judgements on the fly?

We're not going to end up calm pondering intellectuals like those in Close Encounters.
But we're going to be on the constant and quick moves like a Jedi on Coruscant  (sans the Force)

Look at the life in your cities...and don't think it will happen.
 
2013-02-01 03:16:04 AM
No. Because when we evolve to the point where we think we need a new name: we'll be in the future already. But, by then, it'll be the present. It would be stupid to name something in the present "homo futurus."
 
2013-02-01 07:54:50 AM
If you consider the Anthropic Principle and Bayes's Rule, it's unlikely that humans will go on to exist in large numbers for much longer.

If you consider all of the people who have ever lived (est. at ~106 billion), about 6% (7 billion) of them are living today.  If you consider all of the people who have or who will ever live,  for our existence right now to be described as "typical", or "probable" (perched as we are on the side of a steep growth curve), the population could not continue to increase for much longer.  Of the three possibilities, that the population will a) continue to grow far into the future, b) continue to grow, and then level off, or c) fall precipitously in the near future, "c" is by far the most probable one.
 
2013-02-01 07:55:54 AM

KellyX: MrJesus: Quantum Apostraphe





That useful?


Yeah yeah ya little whippersnappers I'm here. I think all this money going into future stuff is stupid. Why do we need to invest in the future, we need to invest in stuff now. FARK the future. And all this technology stuff is stupid. So we can send an RC car to mars, big frigging whoop. What about taking down those juvinial deliquint punks who egged my house. And investing in medicine? Who cares? It's all bullcrap anyway. Just like "evilution". Spending money on science and technology is a waste, I liked it better when we had to wait 2 weeks for a letter, the average lifespan was 55, and cars only went 15 mph. Those were the days!
 
2013-02-01 09:45:54 AM
Educational homogamy is a next step in human evolution.  Olympic homogamy is another.
 
2013-02-02 08:36:21 PM

Vegetative reproduction: Educational homogamy is a next step in human evolution.  Olympic homogamy is another.


That site... wow. Either it's the driest humor I've come across in a month, or I'm falling afoul of Poe's Law once again.
 
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