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(The Consumerist)   It's come to this: even Tupperware realizes it is "too classy" for Walmart   (consumerist.com) divider line 64
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2013-01-31 10:00:44 AM  
Truth hurts, doesn't it, Consumerist?
 
2013-01-31 10:01:34 AM  
I hope the CEO of Tupperware hasn't looked up the Urban Dictionary definition of tupperware party (NSFW language)
 
2013-01-31 10:04:39 AM  

Slackfumasta: Truth hurts, doesn't it, Consumerist?


yep
 
2013-01-31 10:13:31 AM  
Tupperware is seriously inferior to Rubber Maid. The seals are a royal pain. Even when they do fit, it's difficult to get them on. In many cases, you CAN'T get the seals on at all. I've got a box full of Tupperware I no longer use and can't give away.
 
2013-01-31 10:19:11 AM  
Hate on Tupperware/Tuppercraft all you want, at least they made this:

t0.gstatic.com

Which can be used to make this:

upload.wikimedia.org

/still have 3 or 4 sets in the garage
//need to build another bot
 
RJB
2013-01-31 10:31:46 AM  
In our house, we have accumulated some of those Glad and Ziploc-brand food storage containers, and they work just fine. They're great for taking food to and from gatherings at other people's houses. If we bring one, we don't need to worry about getting our container back; if my mother wants to send us home with leftovers, she gives us a cheapo container.

To Tupperware's point, these throwaway containers are probably not as durable as something like Tupperware, but they don't fall apart after many uses, either. They'll go from freezer to microwave to dishwasher, and they still hold their lids on tight. And we're talking about food storage here. I'll pay for quality when quality matters, but I'm just looking for a place to store some leftover stew.
 
2013-01-31 10:32:34 AM  
Personally, I still mentally associate Tupperware the orange/brown, avocado and some yellow color of the crap that was a pain in the ass to open at my grandmother's house.  Looking at their site, they have updated the designs.

But I guess we really are an economy market if we don't by $20 plastic salt and pepper shakers.  I think my good salt and pepper mill cost less than that.
 
2013-01-31 10:32:40 AM  
only a slag would be caught dead with items of either
 
2013-01-31 10:36:50 AM  

natazha: Tupperware is seriously inferior to Rubber Maid. The seals are a royal pain. Even when they do fit, it's difficult to get them on. In many cases, you CAN'T get the seals on at all. I've got a box full of Tupperware I no longer use and can't give away.


THIS! My whole kitchen now is Rubber Maid. Since I switched I haven't had any of my dry goods go bad. The seals just refuse to fail.
 
2013-01-31 10:37:29 AM  
It's farking PLASTIC, molded into container shapes.  Get over yourselves.

/just another clueless CEO
 
2013-01-31 10:39:04 AM  
In other news, Tupperware still exists.
 
2013-01-31 10:41:27 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: It's farking PLASTIC, molded into container shapes.  Get over yourselves.

/just another clueless CEO


Tell it to the consumers.  Wal-Mart is a royal pain in the ass to work with.  Look up what they did to Vlasic Pickles.
 
2013-01-31 10:43:03 AM  
cn1.kaboodle.com

*burp*
 
2013-01-31 11:01:51 AM  

Happy Hours: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: It's farking PLASTIC, molded into container shapes.  Get over yourselves.

/just another clueless CEO

Tell it to the consumers.  Wal-Mart is a royal pain in the ass to work with.  Look up what they did to Vlasic Pickles.


The CEO is not talking about Wal-Mart supplier practices, which do suck.  He is talking about the American market in general.

The U.S.A. is basically a Wal-Mart market. Our top-tier products like the Microsteamer or the Ultra Plus, that are 100-year old products, hard to sell them in the U.S. because that's a discount market over there....They buy price

While yes a large part of the US does buy solely on price, there is a quite a bit of room in the upscale market.  My contention would be that the Tupperware brand is what is tarnished, seen as cheesy crap from the 70s at inflated prices that suburban housewives sold to each other at parties. My contention would be that they simply need to market themselves better here. It is possible to compete against cheap if you are, or can sell yourself as, better.
 
2013-01-31 11:03:10 AM  
Rubbermaid and Pyrex both have better products at lower prices.
 
2013-01-31 11:04:52 AM  
He's right.  The average American consumer buys on price, and views things as disposable.  I buy Rubbermaid because it costs less than Tupperware, is much easier to find in stores than Tupperware, and lasts long enough.  I don't care if Tupperware's plastic lettuce crisper lasts for 40 years; I can buy several Rubbermaid ones for the same cost.

However, instead of biatching about how the Walmart consumer doesn't want to buy the expensive plastic bowls, maybe he should be focusing on how to target his brand to the higher-end consumers in the U.S.  There are people here that buy based on quality, and will pay for Tupperware; it is just a smaller market than the ones that shop at Wally World or Target.
 
2013-01-31 11:35:03 AM  
They need to start selling them in target.
 
2013-01-31 11:35:29 AM  
I started using old refrigerator dishes a few years ago and have finally stopped using Tupperware in general. They are just more durable and convenient than plastic containers.
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2013-01-31 11:36:27 AM  
But I was led to believe that Wal-Mart was a classy place.

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-01-31 11:36:43 AM  
Way to tell the world that you can't hit Wal-Mart's price targets and maintain your fat margins.
 
2013-01-31 11:38:39 AM  

RJB: In our house, we have accumulated some of those Glad and Ziploc-brand food storage containers, and they work just fine. They're great for taking food to and from gatherings at other people's houses. If we bring one, we don't need to worry about getting our container back; if my mother wants to send us home with leftovers, she gives us a cheapo container.

To Tupperware's point, these throwaway containers are probably not as durable as something like Tupperware, but they don't fall apart after many uses, either. They'll go from freezer to microwave to dishwasher, and they still hold their lids on tight. And we're talking about food storage here. I'll pay for quality when quality matters, but I'm just looking for a place to store some leftover stew.


Yup.

While I don't much like the Rubbermaid ones (the lids don't go on well) and the Tupperware stuff is really good quality, the fact is that the cheapo Glad/Ziploc stuff works just fine, lasts longer than one might expect, and can be replaced many many times over before you've reached the cost of the Tupperware. Moreover, if you lose the lid to the Tupperware, you're farked. Lose a lid to a Glad container, who gives a damn? If you find something in a Glad container looking REALLY nasty, just toss the whole thing.

Tupperware is indeed a premium product, but buying it is a pain in the ass and the job can be done in a satisfactory manner for far less.
 
2013-01-31 11:39:59 AM  

Happy Hours: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: It's farking PLASTIC, molded into container shapes.  Get over yourselves.

/just another clueless CEO

Tell it to the consumers.  Wal-Mart is a royal pain in the ass to work with.  Look up what they did to Vlasic Pickles.


Don't know what they did to Vlasic but Wal-mart drove Rubber Main into bankruptcy a few years back.
 
2013-01-31 11:44:47 AM  

spelletrader: Rubbermaid and Pyrex both have better products at lower prices.


Might want to check out what Rubbermaid had to do to get prices down low enough to satisfy Walmart...
 
2013-01-31 11:59:33 AM  
Our top-tier products ... are hard to sell them in the U.S. because that's a discount market over there....They buy price. Europe buys quality, Japan quality.

I can attest to this.  I had a friend whose gf came over from Russia as a teen.  When they go clothes shopping together, she'll check the quality of the fabric and the stitching.  If it isn't good, she'll move on even if she otherwise likes the item.

I've had a couple of gfs who were just the opposite.  It was all about price.  If it wasn't on sale, they wouldn't buy it.  They ended up with a lot of cheap crap.  I guess when you buy in bulk, it doesn't matter if it falls apart after a couple of washings.
 
2013-01-31 12:01:52 PM  
Wife bought a bunch of Lock&Lock bins. Idk

//Second best Korea
 
2013-01-31 12:02:01 PM  
wingnut396:
But I guess we really are an economy market if we don't by $20 plastic salt and pepper shakers.  I think my good salt and pepper mill cost less than that.

I bought a small, antique pair of salt and pepper shakes off eBay for $20...and they're sterling silver.

silver >> tupperware
 
2013-01-31 12:05:04 PM  

Big Merl: natazha: Tupperware is seriously inferior to Rubber Maid. The seals are a royal pain. Even when they do fit, it's difficult to get them on. In many cases, you CAN'T get the seals on at all. I've got a box full of Tupperware I no longer use and can't give away.

THIS! My whole kitchen now is Rubber Maid. Since I switched I haven't had any of my dry goods go bad. The seals just refuse to fail.


We use glass storage containers (e.g., Pyrex brand).  No need to worry about BPA or plastic absorbing smelly/yucky stuff.
 
2013-01-31 12:17:40 PM  
I used to use Tupperware containers, esp. the old yellow & avocado ones from the 70s, for my Geocaches.  I had to swap them all out within a year because the seals failed.  The Rubbermaid stuff I use now has lasted 5+ years.
 
2013-01-31 12:25:31 PM  

karmaceutical: spelletrader: Rubbermaid and Pyrex both have better products at lower prices.

Might want to check out what Rubbermaid had to do to get prices down low enough to satisfy Walmart...


Pyrex isn't what it used to be, either. They don't use borosilicate glass anymore, so a lot of the benefits of Pyrex, like going from a hot oven into the freezer without shattering, are gone.
 
2013-01-31 12:33:17 PM  

akula: RJB: In our house, we have accumulated some of those Glad and Ziploc-brand food storage containers, and they work just fine. They're great for taking food to and from gatherings at other people's houses. If we bring one, we don't need to worry about getting our container back; if my mother wants to send us home with leftovers, she gives us a cheapo container.

To Tupperware's point, these throwaway containers are probably not as durable as something like Tupperware, but they don't fall apart after many uses, either. They'll go from freezer to microwave to dishwasher, and they still hold their lids on tight. And we're talking about food storage here. I'll pay for quality when quality matters, but I'm just looking for a place to store some leftover stew.

Yup.

While I don't much like the Rubbermaid ones (the lids don't go on well) and the Tupperware stuff is really good quality, the fact is that the cheapo Glad/Ziploc stuff works just fine, lasts longer than one might expect, and can be replaced many many times over before you've reached the cost of the Tupperware. Moreover, if you lose the lid to the Tupperware, you're farked. Lose a lid to a Glad container, who gives a damn? If you find something in a Glad container looking REALLY nasty, just toss the whole thing.

Tupperware is indeed a premium product, but buying it is a pain in the ass and the job can be done in a satisfactory manner for far less.



^^^^^^^^What they said^^^^^^^^^^


Tupperware is nice, but too expensive.  And the douchebags I work with would steal it.
 
2013-01-31 12:37:58 PM  
i1151.photobucket.com
Tupperware? I ain't no frickin' Euro-snob with money to burn!
Beside the bisphenol A tubs I get at Walmart make my tits bigger.
 
2013-01-31 01:10:46 PM  
Tupperware is overpriced. I haven't seen anyone with Tupperware since the 70's. Clearly they aren't interested in gaining back any of their lost market. Let the free market decide their future. Oh wait, it has. A Google search shows Tupperware has the lowest projected earnings growth in the housewares and specialty industry.
 
2013-01-31 01:12:27 PM  

brigid_fitch: I used to use Tupperware containers, esp. the old yellow & avocado ones from the 70s, for my Geocaches.  I had to swap them all out within a year because the seals failed.  The Rubbermaid stuff I use now has lasted 5+ years.


You mean that the brand new Rubbermaid products you buy handle better than 35+ year-old Tupperware you picked up at the thrift store?  Shocking.
 
2013-01-31 01:40:40 PM  
I thought Tupperware is a multi-level marketing scheme, thus if the poor saps that bought into the concept had an end run around their sales "parties" by corporate there would be a bunch of pissed off poor saps and lawsuits.
 
2013-01-31 01:42:51 PM  
While I seem to be in agreement with most here that "investing" in quality plastic food bins is not a priority for me, the CEO does have a point - America will seek the price point.

I buy quality, when it applies to an item which requires it. Microwave, TV, bed, etc. Buying quality is an investment and almost always pays off with the longevity of the item. Tupperware is bad business. I ALWAYS lose the lids. I like being able to send leftovers home with a friend and not worrying about the container being returned. Sure I could have two sets, one for home, and one "to go", but it's easlier and makes more sense to go disposable.

I don't microwave my Gladware, it lengthens the shelf life a good deal... and I have some containers that are over 2+ years old still in rotation. When I send leftovers home with a friend - I always pick the older/worn units. Natural rotation then occurs.
 
2013-01-31 02:11:52 PM  
Pyrex for the big stuff, Rubbermaid for the freezer, and Ziploc for everything else.
 
2013-01-31 02:52:27 PM  

FizixJunkee: I bought a small, antique pair of salt and pepper shakes off eBay for $20...and they're sterling silver.

silver >> tupperware


Bullcrap. Your pepper is going all stale, but you can't distinguish that taste because you have a WalMart-ish unrefined palate.

akula: Moreover, if you lose the lid to the Tupperware, you're farked.


You're not really farked. They have a lifetime guarantee free replacement policy. You just have to find a Tupperware rep to do the return for you.
/my wife quit being a rep because everyone just used her as a channel for returns, and no one wanted to buy a $20 plastic salt and pepper shaker set.
 
2013-01-31 03:07:31 PM  

skrame: You're not really farked. They have a lifetime guarantee free replacement policy. You just have to find a Tupperware rep to do the return for you.
/my wife quit being a rep because everyone just used her as a channel for returns, and no one wanted to buy a $20 plastic salt and pepper shaker set.


Interesting. Still, while the few Tupperware items I have are great, I don't know that hunting down a rep and handling all that is any easier than just grabbing more cheap-ass storage items from Walmart or Target the next time we're in the store.
 
2013-01-31 03:21:52 PM  

karmaceutical: spelletrader: Rubbermaid and Pyrex both have better products at lower prices.

Might want to check out what Rubbermaid had to do to get prices down low enough to satisfy Walmart...


I usually buy things like that on Amazon, not that it matters.

Do you research the history of every company that you've ever done business with? It's possible to find something objectionable about anyone or anything.
 
2013-01-31 03:41:07 PM  
Consumist sucks since they lost their complaining box at the bottom.
 
2013-01-31 03:50:53 PM  
skrame:
Your pepper is going all stale, but you can't distinguish that taste because you have a WalMart-ish unrefined palate.

/my wife quit being a rep because everyone just used her as a channel for returns, and no one wanted to buy a $20 plastic salt and pepper shaker set.

What the fark does she expect for hanging out with people with unrefined, Wal-Mart, stale-pepper palates?
 
2013-01-31 04:01:27 PM  

oldfarthenry: [i1151.photobucket.com image 301x461]
Tupperware? I ain't no frickin' Euro-snob with money to burn!
Beside the bisphenol A tubs I get at Walmart make my tits bigger.


Huh. Uncle kevin has changed

//she's outrageous.
 
2013-01-31 04:27:01 PM  
My parents had a set of Rubbermaid containers that they used for 15+ years, and there was never any issues. Although eventually the containers get stained to "chipped". I finally bought them a new set, but they are still using selected pieces from an old set. (and both the old and the new probably cost less than 1/2 of a complete Tupperware set).
 
2013-01-31 04:33:47 PM  

wingnut396: skrame:
Your pepper is going all stale, but you can't distinguish that taste because you have a WalMart-ish unrefined palate.

/my wife quit being a rep because everyone just used her as a channel for returns, and no one wanted to buy a $20 plastic salt and pepper shaker set.

What the fark does she expect for hanging out with people with unrefined, Wal-Mart, stale-pepper palates?


She doesn't hang out with them - she was just hoping to take advantage of them!
 
2013-01-31 04:49:53 PM  
i used to have a lot of Tupperware, years ago, but after a number of moves it's all gone, now. I liked it; I liked the lifetime guarantee. Now I use small Mason jars for my spices; medium and large sized ones for all my pastas, rice, lentils, coffee, etc. I like the look of the jars on my shelves. Kind of a homey look, I think, and they keep everything just fine. You can buy a box of 12 1 L. Mason jars for less than $20.
 
2013-01-31 05:19:21 PM  
Americans buy on price. This explains why Apple virtually prints money.
 
2013-01-31 06:28:33 PM  

spelletrader: Rubbermaid and Pyrex both have better products at lower prices.


I learned to shape and melt lab glass just for fun. I learned a great deal about how Pyrex handles heat and, if it's clean enough to be used for laboratory work, I sure as hell want to use it for food containers.

I love Pyrex products, even if they are pricey. I've never had one melt in the dishwasher and it can go from oven to table without a problem.
 
2013-01-31 06:47:56 PM  
Consumerist?  They're still around?

With the comment gallery gone, that website is like 3 nerds in a one-bedroom apartment typing up "witty" one-liners.
 
2013-01-31 06:54:37 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: Consumerist?  They're still around?

With the comment gallery gone, that website is like 3 nerds in a one-bedroom apartment typing up "witty" one-liners.


"Ha! Far from it"

Oh wait.
 
2013-01-31 09:27:12 PM  

skrame: FizixJunkee: I bought a small, antique pair of salt and pepper shakes off eBay for $20...and they're sterling silver.

silver >> tupperware

Bullcrap. Your pepper is going all stale, but you can't distinguish that taste because you have a WalMart-ish unrefined palate.


Huh?  I only use them for fancy-ish dinners and I never keep or store salt or pepper in them ('cause the pepper would go stale and salt can corrode silver).  I fill them up before the meal and empty them afterwards.  The pepper I put in them is freshly ground in our pepper mill; they peppercorns themselves come from Penzeys.
 
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