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(TMZ)   Man who wears tight spandex pants, pats fellow players on the ass, and winds up at the bottom of a pile of sweaty men for a living says that no gay stuff will be tolerated in the San Francisco 49ers locker room   (tmz.com) divider line 118
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2013-01-31 09:33:43 AM
And wearing a pink headband...

Do any of those voices also say "Avert your eyes or you'll be tempted by the devil." or at the bottom of the pile "think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts..."

/ my understanding is that the number of gay players in the NFL would cause even the most diehard of anti-gay activist forehead to bead with sweat
 
2013-01-31 09:35:52 AM
Culliver and the 49ers will take the field on Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens -- a team which features a very outspoken pro-gay rights advocate Brendon Ayanbadejo.

What a football player secure in his sexuality looks like:

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2013-01-31 09:40:03 AM
of all the cities to play for, it had to be a San Francisco 49er.
 
2013-01-31 09:45:31 AM

SlothB77: of all the cities to play for, it had to be a San Francisco 49er.


It's like if a Green Bay Packer were a vegan that hated cheese.
 
2013-01-31 09:45:57 AM
So he speaks for his entire team?
 
2013-01-31 09:49:20 AM
Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.
 
2013-01-31 09:51:02 AM

SphericalTime: Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.


Awww, don't let one asshole ruin your whole sports watching experience.  Unless this is a sentiment that's pretty much shared by the whole organization.  Unless you mean that you're not keen on the 49ers for other reasons.
 
2013-01-31 09:55:03 AM

Cythraul: SphericalTime: Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.

Awww, don't let one asshole ruin your whole sports watching experience.  Unless this is a sentiment that's pretty much shared by the whole organization.  Unless you mean that you're not keen on the 49ers for other reasons.


Yeah, the 49ers has a homophobe. But the Ravens have a murderer.
 
2013-01-31 09:56:32 AM
Paging Chris Kluwe.

FirstNationalBastard: But the Ravens have a murderer.


michelleobamaeyeroll.gif
 
2013-01-31 09:58:58 AM

SphericalTime: Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.


Take a stab at it.  You might find a way to get away with something.
 
2013-01-31 10:00:12 AM

Generation_D: SphericalTime: Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.

Take a stab at it.  You might find a way to get away with something.


I think we'll see him disposing of all his NFL clothing in a dumpster soon...
 
2013-01-31 10:13:21 AM
Where does this guy get off having an opinion.
 
2013-01-31 10:19:28 AM

BillCo: Where does this guy get off having an opinion.


You know who else had an opinion?
 
2013-01-31 10:28:01 AM
What a Commissioner who would not put up with such shenanigans would look like:
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2013-01-31 10:43:43 AM

Cythraul: Awww, don't let one asshole ruin your whole sports watching experience. Unless this is a sentiment that's pretty much shared by the whole organization.


I can almost guarantee you that this is a sentiment that's shared by the whole organization, and by every organization in the league. Certainly not by every player or member of the front office, and it's certainly not their official position, but it's an unspoken rule.

There's a reason that not a single player has ever come out of the closet during his playing career in the history of American major professional sports, and it's not because there haven't been any gay players.
 
2013-01-31 10:50:16 AM

sigdiamond2000: Cythraul: Awww, don't let one asshole ruin your whole sports watching experience. Unless this is a sentiment that's pretty much shared by the whole organization.

I can almost guarantee you that this is a sentiment that's shared by the whole organization, and by every organization in the league. Certainly not by every player or member of the front office, and it's certainly not their official position, but it's an unspoken rule.

There's a reason that not a single player has ever come out of the closet during his playing career in the history of American major professional sports, and it's not because there haven't been any gay players.


Well, no one has come out as gay during their professional sports career, but straight NFL players have come out in favor of gay rights.  So, that's progress?
 
2013-01-31 10:57:26 AM

kronicfeld: Paging Chris Kluwe.

FirstNationalBastard: But the Ravens have a murderer.

michelleobamaeyeroll.gif


Kluwe had a response on twitter, but the content escapes me.
 
2013-01-31 10:57:43 AM
And people wonder why a guy like Manti Te'o, if he were gay, might do something like go through the lengths of inventing a fake girlfriend.
 
2013-01-31 11:00:46 AM

alwaysjaded: Do any of those voices also say "Avert your eyes or you'll be tempted by the devil." or at the bottom of the pile "think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts..."


Thinking of those stories of players just pissing themselves on the field, among other things, just the smell alone would probably be enough.
 
2013-01-31 11:13:53 AM
Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology
 
2013-01-31 11:16:31 AM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


Yeah, it's also bullshiat.
 
2013-01-31 11:19:50 AM

Cythraul: scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology

Yeah, it's also bullshiat.


Oh of course it is. When this story first broke I went and read some of his twitter account. It was terrible.
 
2013-01-31 11:22:05 AM

Diogenes: Culliver and the 49ers will take the field on Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens -- a team which features a very outspoken pro-gay rights advocate Brendon Ayanbadejo.

What a football player secure in his sexuality looks like:

[cdn.c.photoshelter.com image 271x375]


Looks like Dr. Turkleton aka Chocolate Bear
 
2013-01-31 11:22:11 AM
"He continued, "Can't be with that sweet stuff. Nah ... can't be ...in the locker room man. Nah." "

WTH?
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2013-01-31 11:22:56 AM

scottydoesntknow: Cythraul: scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology

Yeah, it's also bullshiat.

Oh of course it is. When this story first broke I went and read some of his twitter account. It was terrible.


He should have gone with the "sorry people were offended" angle, which is a total crock of shiat but is at least more genuine than that apology.
 
2013-01-31 11:24:13 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: "He continued, "Can't be with that sweet stuff. Nah ... can't be ...in the locker room man. Nah." "

WTH?
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Cold, got ta be.
 
2013-01-31 11:25:17 AM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


NFL is trying to cover it's ass on this one. Fact is, they are the greatest propogators of homophobia throughout our society. Every add involving football deals with manliness being measured by the pursuit of bikini models and punching your friends in the face.
 
2013-01-31 11:25:35 AM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


PROTIP: Most press-nuggets like this are written by the player's agent's secretary.
 
2013-01-31 11:26:45 AM

sigdiamond2000: I can almost guarantee you that this is a sentiment that's shared by the whole organization, and by every organization in the league. Certainly not by every player or member of the front office, and it's certainly not their official position, but it's an unspoken rule.


Let's just assume everyone is homophobic rather than accepting, that way the issue never gets resolved and we are in no means being judgmental like they are.

I know what you mean, but you can't just say that.
 
2013-01-31 11:28:26 AM
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Grammaton Cleric Culliver
 
2013-01-31 11:29:33 AM

Lost Thought 00: NFL is trying to cover it's ass on this one. Fact is, they are the greatest propogators of homophobia throughout our society. Every add involving football deals with manliness being measured by the pursuit of bikini models and punching your friends in the face.


Unless its Aaron Rodgers gently placing his fingers on another dude's lips.  Actually, I can't think of any commercial that you're referring too.  Well other than the guys sitting around the tv/tailgate and every girl is a model.  They put pretty people in their commercials like everyone else.

/Also, you will go from crazy cat lady to pretty lady who attends cookouts with Drew Brees.
 
2013-01-31 11:30:38 AM
If you're against gay marriage, fine. I disagree with you but I at least know how to approach a discussion with you about it should one develop.

If you're bothered about sharing a locker room, already full of naked dudes, with a gay one...congratulations; it's no longer an issue of religious dogma forming certain archaic opinions but actually about you being a complete dumbass.
 
2013-01-31 11:30:51 AM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


"In my head, I find gay people repugnant, but that's not how I feel. It was only once someone pointed out that gay people read (and watch football) too that I realized that my opinion is economically harmful to me and the league. I blame the media for reporting this, and I curse you in advance for making me do a week of damage control and making this THE thing that everyone knows me by now.

"No thanks at all, CC"

// translated
// the only jive I know is old-style liturgical, so a few words may be off
 
2013-01-31 11:31:32 AM

thecpt: Lost Thought 00: NFL is trying to cover it's ass on this one. Fact is, they are the greatest propogators of homophobia throughout our society. Every add involving football deals with manliness being measured by the pursuit of bikini models and punching your friends in the face.

Unless its Aaron Rodgers gently placing his fingers on another dude's lips.  Actually, I can't think of any commercial that you're referring too.  Well other than the guys sitting around the tv/tailgate and every girl is a model.  They put pretty people in their commercials like everyone else.

/Also, you will go from crazy cat lady to pretty lady who attends cookouts with Drew Brees.


Thanks to Brees, I now know that NyQuil is the manliest night-time cold suppressant on the market.
 
2013-01-31 11:31:41 AM
I want to hear what Chris Kluwe has to say about it.  He is very eloquent and is fantastic at verbally biatch-slapping guys like this.
 
2013-01-31 11:32:00 AM

Diogenes: Culliver and the 49ers will take the field on Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens -- a team which features a very outspoken pro-gay rights advocate Brendon Ayanbadejo.

What a football player secure in his sexuality looks like:

[cdn.c.photoshelter.com image 271x375]


Football players secure in their sexuality stand behind ugly pregnant women?

If it's his, I for one am shocked that he's standing anywhere near her.
 
2013-01-31 11:34:24 AM
I suspect his apology was written by a PR person.
 
2013-01-31 11:35:38 AM

Klippoklondike: I want to hear what Chris Kluwe has to say about it.  He is very eloquent and is fantastic at verbally biatch-slapping guys like this.


I saw one comment on his twitter about it:

Chris Kluwe @ChrisWarcraft

The proper response to @Cullyinthehouse isn't to mock him for insecurity over gay rights, but to mock him for buying fake Twitter followers.
 
2013-01-31 11:36:14 AM
Boxing is just men fighting for a belt and a purse in a ring.  And they have to come up with over-the-top nicknames like "Macho" and "Bonecrusher."  Make what you want of that.
 
2013-01-31 11:36:55 AM

thecpt: Lost Thought 00: NFL is trying to cover it's ass on this one. Fact is, they are the greatest propogators of homophobia throughout our society. Every add involving football deals with manliness being measured by the pursuit of bikini models and punching your friends in the face.

Unless its Aaron Rodgers gently placing his fingers on another dude's lips.  Actually, I can't think of any commercial that you're referring too.  Well other than the guys sitting around the tv/tailgate and every girl is a model.  They put pretty people in their commercials like everyone else.

/Also, you will go from crazy cat lady to pretty lady who attends cookouts with Drew Brees.


Not so much ads for the NFL so much as ads for beer, soda, GoDaddy, etc that surround it. You don't find ads anywhere near that offensive surrounding other sports
 
2013-01-31 11:40:23 AM

Lost Thought 00: Not so much ads for the NFL so much as ads for beer, soda, GoDaddy, etc that surround it. You don't find ads anywhere near that offensive surrounding other sports


Baseball has MILLER Park. GoDaddy's (current or previous) spokesbabe was a NASCAR driver. MLS has a franchise named the RED BULLS (which give you a boner wings). Fark, even GOLF has those same sponsorships.

Football's not the worst offender, and commercials aren't tailored per-sport.
 
2013-01-31 11:42:05 AM

Lost Thought 00: Not so much ads for the NFL so much as ads for beer, soda, GoDaddy, etc that surround it. You don't find ads anywhere near that offensive surrounding other sports


Okay, so not NFL commercials so much as sponsors that are doing tie-ins.  GoDaddy is crappy and buy network space.  I didn't think they did anything directly with the NFL.  Beer commercials are truly shiatty about it (I'm think the recent, budlight maybe?, where they question manliness and everyone laughs at that person) but those weren't directly tied with the NFL either.  I can't think of any soda ones that have offended me.

But when it comes to NFL commercials, they're pretty good about it.  It's just what networks decide to plug in as advertising for the base demographic.
 
2013-01-31 11:45:31 AM

scottydoesntknow: Klippoklondike: I want to hear what Chris Kluwe has to say about it.  He is very eloquent and is fantastic at verbally biatch-slapping guys like this.

I saw one comment on his twitter about it:

Chris Kluwe @ChrisWarcraft

The proper response to @Cullyinthehouse isn't to mock him for insecurity over gay rights, but to mock him for buying fake Twitter followers.


I've heard of politicians doing this but do athletes actually do that as well?
 
2013-01-31 11:45:51 AM

Dr Dreidel: commercials aren't tailored per-sport.


I shouldn't say that - they have a ton of "The NFL: Sponsored by people who pay us millions of dollars a year just so we can say that" ads (there's actually an official skin-care product of the NFL).

The commercials tailored per-sport aren't qualitatively different from others that aren't.
 
2013-01-31 11:46:13 AM
Culliver answered, "No, we don't got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do."

I ran this through Google translator and it insists that it is written in English already. Odd.
 
2013-01-31 11:46:51 AM

thecpt: Lost Thought 00: Not so much ads for the NFL so much as ads for beer, soda, GoDaddy, etc that surround it. You don't find ads anywhere near that offensive surrounding other sports

Okay, so not NFL commercials so much as sponsors that are doing tie-ins.  GoDaddy is crappy and buy network space.  I didn't think they did anything directly with the NFL.  Beer commercials are truly shiatty about it (I'm think the recent, budlight maybe?, where they question manliness and everyone laughs at that person) but those weren't directly tied with the NFL either.  I can't think of any soda ones that have offended me.

But when it comes to NFL commercials, they're pretty good about it.  It's just what networks decide to plug in as advertising for the base demographic.


The Dr. Pepper "It's not for women" ads are pretty obnoxious.
 
2013-01-31 11:48:15 AM

thecpt: sigdiamond2000: I can almost guarantee you that this is a sentiment that's shared by the whole organization, and by every organization in the league. Certainly not by every player or member of the front office, and it's certainly not their official position, but it's an unspoken rule.

Let's just assume everyone is homophobic rather than accepting, that way the issue never gets resolved and we are in no means being judgmental like they are.

I know what you mean, but you can't just say that.


I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying I said "everyone is homophobic?" Because I actually went out of my way to not say that because I don't believe all players and management are.
 
2013-01-31 11:48:48 AM

ModernPrimitive01: The Dr. Pepper "It's not for women" ads are pretty obnoxious.


Your right, forgot about those. Again,not directly tied in with the NFL though.

Workaholics made fun of them accordingly.
 
2013-01-31 11:48:49 AM

ModernPrimitive01: The Dr. Pepper "It's not for women" ads are pretty obnoxious.


But the Workaholics episode making fun of it was hilarious
 
2013-01-31 11:50:59 AM

sigdiamond2000: I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying I said "everyone is homophobic?" Because I actually went out of my way to not say that because I don't believe all players and management are.


I assumed by saying the organization feels that sentiment, that you meant the players too.  If that's not it, then your post is confusing.
 
2013-01-31 11:51:13 AM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


there is one thing i am 100% sure of and that is that Culliver didn't write that.  I figured that out when i reached the word 'derogatory'.
 
2013-01-31 11:52:43 AM
"No, we don't got no gay people on the team"

Hmm.
 
2013-01-31 11:52:45 AM
Almost a Workaholics simulpost. You guys must be fully torqued right now.

/shawnders
 
2013-01-31 11:53:50 AM

kronicfeld: Almost a Workaholics simulpost. You guys must be fully torqued right now.

/shawnders


it was very tight butt hole
 
2013-01-31 11:54:39 AM
Did Culliver think the interview with Artie Lange wasn't being taped or that Lange wouldn't release it publicly for some reason?  He had to have expected that.
 
2013-01-31 11:55:18 AM
You'd think someone who played at South Carolina would be more comfortable with cocks.
 
2013-01-31 11:55:47 AM
Yeah, you knew the apology was coming - that is the WRONG town to be vocal with those feelings.  The 49ers organization was the first to join the anti-bullying "It Gets Better" campaign.
 
2013-01-31 11:57:04 AM
Oh, and Artie Lange is a douchebag, too.
 
2013-01-31 11:57:43 AM

thecpt: sigdiamond2000: I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying I said "everyone is homophobic?" Because I actually went out of my way to not say that because I don't believe all players and management are.

I assumed by saying the organization feels that sentiment, that you meant the players too. If that's not it, then your post is confusing.


My point is that I'm fairly certain the majority of players and management agree with his sentiment and an atmosphere of homophobia is openly fostered within the male locker room environment.

This isn't really a controversial statement. Any man who has spent any time playing amateur or professional sports would probably agree with this. I know that it was certainly my experience. And I'm not so old now that I believe the culture of the locker room has changed that much since my time in it. I don't know. I guess I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.
 
2013-01-31 11:59:54 AM

sigdiamond2000: thecpt: sigdiamond2000: I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying I said "everyone is homophobic?" Because I actually went out of my way to not say that because I don't believe all players and management are.

I assumed by saying the organization feels that sentiment, that you meant the players too. If that's not it, then your post is confusing.

My point is that I'm fairly certain the majority of players and management agree with his sentiment and an atmosphere of homophobia is openly fostered within the male locker room environment.

This isn't really a controversial statement. Any man who has spent any time playing amateur or professional sports would probably agree with this. I know that it was certainly my experience. And I'm not so old now that I believe the culture of the locker room has changed that much since my time in it. I don't know. I guess I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.


what profession or amateur sport did you play?
 
2013-01-31 12:01:31 PM
That's the downside of making it to the Superbowl.  Even the real troglodytes end up with a mic shoved under their nose.
 
2013-01-31 12:02:13 PM

SphericalTime: Really going to have trouble rooting for the 49ers, even though the Ravens slaughtered the Pats.  May actually skip the game.  We'll see.


Well, there goes the ratings! Hurry, someone warn CBS!
 
2013-01-31 12:02:53 PM

sigdiamond2000: My point is that I'm fairly certain the majority of players and management agree with his sentiment and an atmosphere of homophobia is openly fostered within the male locker room environment.

This isn't really a controversial statement. Any man who has spent any time playing amateur or professional sports would probably agree with this. I know that it was certainly my experience. And I'm not so old now that I believe the culture of the locker room has changed that much since my time in it. I don't know. I guess I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.


There are definitely problems with it, and reasons to keep it secret.  Players who are Allies have said that if someone came out, they would probably be targeted in practice.  I just dont think its fair to say that everyone is that way or that an organization would be that way.

As far as I got Athletics wise it wasn't a problem.  Then again a D1 college in the North East is by no means general opinion either.
 
2013-01-31 12:04:44 PM

SlothB77: Did Culliver think the interview with Artie Lange wasn't being taped or that Lange wouldn't release it publicly for some reason? He had to have expected that.


A lot of professional athletes can't conceive of the idea that there can be any repercussions to things they do because they've been told from a very young age that they're better than everyone else and don't need to play by the same set of rules.
 
2013-01-31 12:05:17 PM

The Muthaship: That's the downside of making it to the Superbowl.  Even the real troglodytes end up with a mic shoved under their nose.


Accurate.
 
2013-01-31 12:06:18 PM
sportygifs.com
 
2013-01-31 12:06:32 PM
#1 You play for San Francisco douchenozzle
#2 Way to never, ever get an endorsement......you're black so the right wing fundies won't hire you even though you are a bigot.
 
2013-01-31 12:08:40 PM
ModernPrimitive01: what profession or amateur sport did you play?

Baseball, not professionally. And I imagine football is much worse as far as that goes.
 
2013-01-31 12:12:36 PM

Orgasmatron138: Oh, and Artie Lange is a douchebag, too.


This. Artie Lange baited him into this. He took advantage of a young black male and the machismo that comes with that culture. He knew what he was doing.

Not defending Culliver. He will learn from this, which is a good thing.

Artie probably immediately went off air and made 3-4 gay jokes. Because that's the type of POS he is.
 
2013-01-31 12:16:44 PM
Homophobia:  the fear that a gay man will treat you the way that you treat women.
 
2013-01-31 12:17:55 PM

funk_soul_bubby: This. Artie Lange baited him into this. He took advantage of a young black male and the machismo that comes with that culture. He knew what he was doing.


He asked Culliver if a gay player would be welcome in their locker room. What part of that is baiting him into revealing he's a queer-hating douchebag?
 
2013-01-31 12:19:45 PM
Anyone who looks at football and immediately thinks about gay sex has a lot to learn about themselves.
 
2013-01-31 12:20:30 PM

sigdiamond2000: A lot of professional athletes can't conceive of the idea that there can be any repercussions to things they do because they've been told from a very young age that they're better than everyone else and don't need to play by the same set of rules.


For an example of this, see:

funk_soul_bubby: Artie Lange baited him into this. He took advantage of a young black male and the machismo that comes with that culture.

 
2013-01-31 12:21:13 PM
As long as his missile isn't orbiting your anus, why would you care?
 
2013-01-31 12:24:15 PM
Notice how it's guys like Torii Hunter and Culliver, people that should understand more than anybody else, are against gays? It's amazing
 
2013-01-31 12:27:56 PM

Lost Thought 00: NFL is trying to cover it's ass


Just like Culliver.

/try the veal.
 
2013-01-31 12:28:59 PM

BigSnatch: scottydoesntknow: Cythraul: scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology

Yeah, it's also bullshiat.

Oh of course it is. When this story first broke I went and read some of his twitter account. It was terrible.

He should have gone with the "sorry people were offended" angle, which is a total crock of shiat but is at least more genuine than that apology.


Then again, that was so incoherent, I expected "I'm sorry the gay people were buthurt over my hatful and ingorant remarks".
 
2013-01-31 12:31:27 PM
I hope his sons, if he ever has any, turn out to be the black Liberace. F him.
 
2013-01-31 12:33:44 PM

deanis: I hope his sons, if he ever has any, turn out to be the black Liberace. F him.


Everything you hate will end up in your family - Chris Rock
 
2013-01-31 12:43:50 PM
Hmmm, i'd be more like "I'm making about a zillion dollars, as long as you play hard and you're not trying to convert me, I don't care what you do in your spare time"
 
2013-01-31 12:45:39 PM
Stories like this are so stupid.  Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer.  Ask a football player and OMG THE NFL IS SO INTOLERANT AHAHAERARARARAGGHGHGHGHGHGHGH.  There are 53 players on every team, most of them (like Culliver) are not used to being interviewed all of the time.  The Super Bowl media days are crazy, you take players who normally have no podium and you give them access to worldwide press all day long.  Eventually many of them are going to say stupid shiat.  Who cares.  He apologized and learned his lesson, what is he, 25?  Man I still say stupid shiat and I am a 30something.  Move on.
 
2013-01-31 12:52:52 PM
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2013-01-31 12:52:54 PM

scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology


Oh yes, the "I said it but I didn't really mean it" apology.  Just own it you moran.  If the porch dwelling rednecks can live a blissful life of open bigotry so can you.
 
2013-01-31 12:55:41 PM

Barry McCackiner: Stories like this are so stupid.  Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer.  Ask a football player and OMG THE NFL IS SO INTOLERANT AHAHAERARARARAGGHGHGHGHGHGHGH.  There are 53 players on every team, most of them (like Culliver) are not used to being interviewed all of the time.  The Super Bowl media days are crazy, you take players who normally have no podium and you give them access to worldwide press all day long.  Eventually many of them are going to say stupid shiat.  Who cares.  He apologized and learned his lesson, what is he, 25?  Man I still say stupid shiat and I am a 30something.  Move on.


I call BS. Who do you hang out with?
 
2013-01-31 12:55:53 PM

Barry McCackiner: Stories like this are so stupid.  Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer.  Ask a football player and OMG THE NFL IS SO INTOLERANT AHAHAERARARARAGGHGHGHGHGHGHGH.  There are 53 players on every team, most of them (like Culliver) are not used to being interviewed all of the time.  The Super Bowl media days are crazy, you take players who normally have no podium and you give them access to worldwide press all day long.  Eventually many of them are going to say stupid shiat.  Who cares.  He apologized and learned his lesson, what is he, 25?  Man I still say stupid shiat and I am a 30something.  Move on.


Well, we definitely agree on one thing.
 
2013-01-31 12:56:15 PM

Flappyhead: scottydoesntknow: Culliver's Crapology:

"The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

For a guy who can barely write/speak at an elementary level, that's quite an eloquent apology

Oh yes, the "I said it but I didn't really mean it" apology.  Just own it you moran.  If the porch dwelling rednecks can live a blissful life of open bigotry so can you.


Here. This is what you're going to read, practice it. You will not be taking questions.
 
2013-01-31 01:04:48 PM

Barry McCackiner: Stories like this are so stupid.  Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer.  Ask a football player and OMG THE NFL IS SO INTOLERANT AHAHAERARARARAGGHGHGHGHGHGHGH.  There are 53 players on every team, most of them (like Culliver) are not used to being interviewed all of the time.  The Super Bowl media days are crazy, you take players who normally have no podium and you give them access to worldwide press all day long.  Eventually many of them are going to say stupid shiat.  Who cares.  He apologized and learned his lesson, what is he, 25?  Man I still say stupid shiat and I am a 30something.  Move on.


You'd think that in a concern worth $8 billion, a sub-concern worth hundreds of millions, a roster of coaches and teammates - SOMEONE would sit these chuckleheads down the day after the draft for a seminar called: "How Not to Make Your League, Your Team and Yourself Look Like a Staggering Jackass".

They can pay me $30k ($1k for each team) to do it, and I promise not to take up too much of their golf/club time.

// lesson 1: speak no farking evil
// this concludes the course
 
2013-01-31 01:05:08 PM

Barry McCackiner: Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer


You didn't pay much attention to certain initiatives on state ballots during the 2012 elections, eh?
 
2013-01-31 01:09:21 PM

Killer Cars: Barry McCackiner: Ask any joe schmoe across the country about the "gays" and you will get a similar type answer

You didn't pay much attention to certain initiatives on state ballots during the 2012 elections, eh?


I live in the Bay Area.  I've voted for the Gay Marriage initiatives.  My sister-in-law lives in the Castro with 4 gay people lol.  I wasn't talking about my opinion.  I'm talking about your average jock type.  Ask a tough guy about gay people in a locker room and you will get that same type of answer.  This isn't a revelation, it is just common sense.  Your average dude may intellectualize the need for gay people to have the right to marry, but they don't necessarily want a bunch of gay dudes around.
 
2013-01-31 01:12:55 PM

SlothB77: And people wonder why a guy like Manti Te'o, if he were gay, might do something like go through the lengths of inventing a fake girlfriend.


If?

Sorry, but that is one gay manatee.

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-01-31 01:15:56 PM

Barry McCackiner: Your average dude may intellectualize the need for gay people to have the right to marry, but they don't necessarily want a bunch of gay dudes around.


Culliver wasn't asked a direct question about showering with a gay guy or even having to share the same bed in some weird "our hotel is overbooked for the road game in Atlanta" situation. He flat out said they're not welcome on the team. Period.

I don't know a single person who supports gay rights who has a problem simply being around gay people, and I actually know people who DON'T support equal marriage rights but don't object working with them or hanging out with them at all. What he said, while stereotypical in a "dumb machismo jock" kind of way I don't think nearly represents the whole as you make it out to be.
 
2013-01-31 01:21:58 PM

Killer Cars: I don't know a single person who supports gay rights who has a problem simply being around gay people, and I actually know people who DON'T support equal marriage rights but don't object working with them or hanging out with them at all. What he said, while stereotypical in a "dumb machismo jock" kind of way I don't think nearly represents the whole as you make it out to be.


Well you and I live in a bubble.  San Francisco and Seattle do not represent the normal.  They represent typical coast leftism.  Anyways that really isn't the point.  The point is this whole story is overblown.  People have opinions, some of them are ignorant, this is not news.
 
2013-01-31 01:22:27 PM
I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.
 
2013-01-31 01:24:28 PM

jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.


And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'
 
2013-01-31 01:29:27 PM

Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'


Really? didn't he just say that if there were any gays they should get off the team, and they need to wait 10 years after they retire to come out? Yeah, he seems like a sensible guy.
 
2013-01-31 01:29:28 PM
Thought this was a wrestling thread.

Leaving disappointed.
 
2013-01-31 01:30:18 PM

Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'


By the way, WTF is a "gay agenda"?
 
2013-01-31 01:31:22 PM

alwaysjaded: Do any of those voices also say "Avert your eyes or you'll be tempted by the devil." or at the bottom of the pile "think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts...think unsexy thoughts..."


Eh, back before I blew out my knee I used to do jujitsu and frequently would work with / compete against some rather attractive women.  As soon as you get started, you're way more concerned about not having your arm broken or getting choked out than you are about rubbing up against her.  I'd imagine it's the same for gay guys fighting for the ball under the pile.
 
2013-01-31 01:31:40 PM

deanis: Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'

Really? didn't he just say that if there were any gays they should get off the team, and they need to wait 10 years after they retire to come out? Yeah, he seems like a sensible guy.


Well, although he didn't say it, as I don't think the question was that specific, but he probably meant 'openly gay people' should get off the team.  Surely can't think that he's never played with anyone who's gay?  That would be a bit delusional at worst, extremely ignorant at best.
 
2013-01-31 01:40:19 PM

Cythraul: Surely can't think that he's never played with anyone who's gay?  That would be a bit delusional at worst, extremely ignorant at best.


Welcome to Fark The NFL.
 
2013-01-31 01:44:16 PM

deanis: Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'

By the way, WTF is a "gay agenda"?


6:00am -- Wake up, shower, brush teeth
6:30am -- Breakfast
7:00am -- Leave for work
7:50am -- Arrive at work
8:00am -- Check and respond to emails received overnight
8:20am -- Use mind-control ray to make straight males lust after chiseled dudes
8:30am -- Team meeting....
 
2013-01-31 01:45:39 PM
Let's hope the 49ers are the first NFL team to sign up with the You Can Play Project and create a PSA for next year. Hockey is working hard to break down the openly gay athlete barrier. Other sports need to get on board.

Hell, Ohio State is having a gay hockey night tomorrow and releasing their You can Play video and working with a Columbus gay hockey team for a social before the game
 
2013-01-31 01:45:40 PM
What makes Culliver think a gay guy would be attracted to him?
 
2013-01-31 01:47:46 PM

BKITU: deanis: Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'

By the way, WTF is a "gay agenda"?

6:00am -- Wake up, shower, brush teeth
6:30am -- Breakfast
7:00am -- Leave for work
7:50am -- Arrive at work
8:00am -- Check and respond to emails received overnight
8:20am -- Use mind-control ray to make straight males lust after chiseled dudes
8:30am -- Team meeting....


You forgot to squeeze in 'restock glitter'
 
2013-01-31 02:01:51 PM
From      "No, we don't got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do."


To         "The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. it has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."


Wow, you're not even farking trying.
 
2013-01-31 02:18:29 PM

iron_city_ap: BKITU: deanis: Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'

By the way, WTF is a "gay agenda"?

6:00am -- Wake up, shower, brush teeth
6:30am -- Breakfast
7:00am -- Leave for work
7:50am -- Arrive at work
8:00am -- Check and respond to emails received overnight
8:20am -- Use mind-control ray to make straight males lust after chiseled dudes
8:30am -- Team meeting....

You forgot to squeeze in 'restock glitter'


That's later in the afternoon, between the weekly budget review and the forecasting conference call, but before the evening's marriage destruction.
 
2013-01-31 02:19:39 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: "He continued, "Can't be with that sweet stuff. Nah ... can't be ...in the locker room man. Nah." "

WTH?
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Freudian slip?  For a straight guy he does seem overly concerned with "sweet" gays.
 
2013-01-31 02:20:12 PM
<i>The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. </i>

It's like the PR equivalent of "Just because I sucked one cock doesn't mean..."
 
2013-01-31 02:24:06 PM

BKITU: iron_city_ap: BKITU: deanis: Cythraul: jake_lex: I hate to break it to Culliver, but it's probably pretty close to an absolute certainty that he either has a gay teammate now, or has had one at some point in his career.

And he would probably respond to that with, 'as long as he kept it to himself, and not push his gay agenda around me, then that's fine.'

By the way, WTF is a "gay agenda"?

6:00am -- Wake up, shower, brush teeth
6:30am -- Breakfast
7:00am -- Leave for work
7:50am -- Arrive at work
8:00am -- Check and respond to emails received overnight
8:20am -- Use mind-control ray to make straight males lust after chiseled dudes
8:30am -- Team meeting....

You forgot to squeeze in 'restock glitter'

That's later in the afternoon, between the weekly budget review and the forecasting conference call, but before the evening's marriage destruction.


Depends on your local chapter.  Here in Maryland we restock glitter after marriage destruction, since we throw so much glitter around in celebration for every destroyed marriage.

/not rooting for the Ravens Sunday because this one guy's a bigot
//rooting for the Ravens out of avion solidarity (Cards fan)
///slashies come in threes
 
2013-01-31 02:29:17 PM

Swoop1809: Let's hope the 49ers are the first NFL team to sign up with the You Can Play Project and create a PSA for next year. Hockey is working hard to break down the openly gay athlete barrier. Other sports need to get on board.

Hell, Ohio State is having a gay hockey night tomorrow and releasing their You can Play video and working with a Columbus gay hockey team for a social before the game


That would be good if they did that, they already did an It Gets Better video.

As for hockey, I'm convinced that the main reason that nobody's come out yet in the NHL is because hockey players have it ingrained into them from the time they first set foot on ice as a toddler that hockey is about the team and you don't draw attention to yourself for anything other than what you do on the ice. The players who are most disliked by fans are the ones who draw too much attention to themselves and their off ice behavior (see: Avery, Sean). Being the first openly gay professional hockey player would draw way more attention for non-hockey reasons than the average player would want to deal with.
 
2013-01-31 02:36:47 PM
http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/28/49ers-kwame-harris-accused-of-beati n g-ex/?xid=ob_blogs

Has Anyone mentioned Kwame Harris yet?  I'm too lazy to read the whole thread.

I'm sure Culliver played with him.
 
2013-01-31 03:20:37 PM

sigdiamond2000: This isn't really a controversial statement. Any man who has spent any time playing amateur or professional sports would probably agree with this. I know that it was certainly my experience. And I'm not so old now that I believe the culture of the locker room has changed that much since my time in it. I don't know. I guess I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.


like at Penn State, for example?
 
2013-01-31 04:02:22 PM

iron_city_ap: What makes Culliver think a gay guy would be attracted to him?


True. I was reminded of something that happened when I was a young girl in my first "real" job. There was a guy at work who was an insufferable asshole and he was hideously ugly to boot, just a giant fat loudmouth crybaby who thought he was the most important person in any room he walked into. I was young, naive, and given to kindness to strangers, so I mostly ignored his horribleness and thought that somewhere out there, there was a woman who would love him.

Well, one day some exec's wife ordered a stripper sent to the office for her husband's birthday. We got the whole show. Everyone was drawn to that side of the building by the stripper music to watch her dance, such that I was afraid the place would tip off the hill with all of us crowding around to see what the hell had interrupted our lawyerly pursuits. The obnoxious guy was standing near me and said loudly, to no one: "I'm gay so I wish this was a guy stripping!! HAW HAW HAW!"

I looked at him, shocked (I was young, naive, and it was a different time), and thought "He's doomed. No gay man would ever want him."

Granted, it's not so much a cliche as it used to be, but in general, by and large, gay guys have taste ;)
 
2013-01-31 04:23:53 PM
Today he said this: "I'm sorry if I offended anyone. They were very ugly comments," Culliver said during an hour-long media session. "Hopefully I learn and grow from this experience and this situation."

If you offended anyone? You play in S.F. You offended 20-25% of the citizens of the greater S.F area with your comments!
 
2013-01-31 04:35:11 PM
No response from Jeff_Garcia yet?
 
2013-01-31 05:02:16 PM
He sounds like Alpa Chino...
 
2013-01-31 06:25:34 PM
anyone point out yet that blacks are often homophobic and racist, yet demand that they not be treated in the same manner?
 
2013-01-31 07:18:15 PM
The Giants, 49ers, A's & the Warriors figured out long ago that a lot of the gay people who move here are sports fans and they have money the teams have been very tolerant for years. Gays might support their hometown team when in town but they adopt the local teams as there own & spend their $$$ it's all about the $$$.

The Raiders won't change until Al Jr. hires somebody who can actually run a team.
 
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