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(ReadWrite)   Good news: Google Play now has about as many apps as the iOS App Store, and will probably beat it to the million-app mark. Bad news: Quantity doesn't translate to quality   (readwrite.com) divider line 87
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2013-01-31 10:37:23 AM  
wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.
 
2013-01-31 10:39:26 AM  

moistD: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Can you sync a Wiimote with SuperGNES?  I have NES.emu for Nintendo games and it allows me to sync a Wiimote right in the app, pretty awesome for my Nexus 7 on trips.  I will purchase said SuperGNES if it has controller support, I hate touch screen controls for d-pads


I have a Sony Xperia Play with the built in controller.  D-pad, two senors for the analog, four main buttons, L and R on the shoulders and Start and Menu buttons.  Slides out like the keyboard would on other phones.  Gameboid, Snes9x, and RockNES all installed with about 20 games for each.  Man, I love it.

I don't play it as much as I did when I first got the phone, but it's handy for different occasions.  Nice to have a device with phone, internet, messaging and portable gaming all right there.
 
2013-01-31 11:41:27 AM  

Dufus: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Unfortunately, Android apps can be working great one day and not at all the next. My wife generally throws her Toshiba tablet at me and says, "Fix it!" when her favorite apps go sideways. Usually, fixing it involves the next update.


So what you're saying is, you disabled app updates because you're a moron and that is Google's fault?
 
2013-01-31 11:42:05 AM  

Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.


Widgets are not apps.
 
2013-01-31 11:48:52 AM  
Anyways, I'm not surprised that some Apple blog reviewed apps and said every app on iOS is better than the exact same apps running on Android. Given that Google makes 9 out of the top 10 apps and the other one is Facebook, in reality Apple is severely lacking in app quality.
 
2013-01-31 12:16:24 PM  
Excluding games, there are only about 10 apps I use. Most of those are on both platforms. The ones that aren't have an analogous app on the other platform.
 
2013-01-31 12:25:54 PM  

Bullseyed: Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.

Widgets are not apps.


Beautiful Widgets is an app.
 
2013-01-31 01:00:38 PM  
Yeah, it takes over a week to get approved for iTunes' app store, but about 20 minutes on Google Play.

On the other hand, Google Play doesn't even offer 'promo codes' - let along a 'promo campaign' where developers can give away their product to promote it. Apple's market also tends to sell better.

Amazon's market is probably the hardest to get into. I have a Virtual Cat Toy app for tablets, and finally got it on all the major markets, but Amazon was the pickiest in their testing.... they expected a cat to be disappointed when, after answering a phone call on their tablet, they returned to find the cat toy had exited and required them to spend another 10 seconds getting it set up again.

Sigh

Thankfully, a message back to Amazon cleared up the misunderstanding.

At any rate, I think Palm has the best app market so far when it comes to promotions. Shame HP got stung by little Hitler's drive to get rid of all hardware during his tenure as CEO.
 
2013-01-31 01:00:45 PM  
FTFA
But, as our readers so dutifully informed us, they do not really care. App store volume has become a non-story.
Well tell the stupid farks that complain about WP's 120,000
 
2013-01-31 01:02:52 PM  

Disposable Rob: Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months?


LOL, like i devices have no bugs.  Would you like me to google around for a few?

Either way, the problem described doesn't make any sense if it's happening "once every few months."   The bug linked in that post is only triggered on a reboot, but most people in the BW thread don't say anything to that effect.  I honestly think this is more of a developer issue; a large number of devs will blame Google even though they're the ones not doing it right.

For example, most games ask for the "Prevent phone from sleeping" permission to keep the screen on when it's not necessary.  This permission is for keeping the processor running when the screen is off.  A quick Google told me the proper way of keeping the screen on (requires no permission).

I'm running a GNex with the stock Clock widget right on my front screen for the past two months and it's still here.
 
2013-01-31 01:06:06 PM  

ColSanders: That's because the Android OS lets apps actually interact with the OS and other apps. Apple won't let developers do that with iOS apps.


You're simply wrong about this.  Bro do you even iOS?
 
2013-01-31 01:32:36 PM  
I came in here to tout Tasker. I see I am late.
 
2013-01-31 01:51:55 PM  

SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.


That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60
 
2013-01-31 02:03:31 PM  

bingethinker: SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.

That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60


The new Sheryl Crow album runs $300.
But I hear it's pretty good.
 
2013-01-31 02:09:15 PM  

poot_rootbeer: You're simply wrong about this. Bro do you even iOS?



It's more correct to say that Apple did not build in the hooks to enable it in an easy fashion. In Android, sharing between apps is just another OS function, something that the developer doesn't need to concern himself with. In iOS-land, sharing has to be handled on a case by case basis by developers since the OS has no facility for hooking in to a global system. This is a way that OS is maddeningly inconsistent.
 
2013-01-31 02:40:23 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: bingethinker: SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.

That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60

The new Sheryl Crow album runs $300.
But I hear it's pretty good.


For $300 I want a live performance from Sheryl. And then maybe she can sing for me too.
 
2013-01-31 02:49:40 PM  

bingethinker: For $300 I want a live performance from Sheryl. And then maybe she can sing for me too.


All Jimmy Kimmel got the other night from Sheryl Crow was a song and the word "LOSER" scrawled on his forehead with lipstick
 
2013-01-31 02:57:29 PM  

likefunbutnot: poot_rootbeer: You're simply wrong about this. Bro do you even iOS?


It's more correct to say that Apple did not build in the hooks to enable it in an easy fashion. In Android, sharing between apps is just another OS function, something that the developer doesn't need to concern himself with. In iOS-land, sharing has to be handled on a case by case basis by developers since the OS has no facility for hooking in to a global system. This is a way that OS is maddeningly inconsistent.


That's part of it.  The larger part is the restrictions Apple places on apps for interacting with the hardware.  That's why you have to jailbreak the damn things if you want something as simple as an on/off switch for wifi on your home screen.
 
2013-01-31 03:20:35 PM  

ddam: wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.


Apples store revenue is about 15 Million a day, google play is 3.5 million.
 
2013-01-31 03:23:14 PM  

spelletrader: How about we all just stop being brand/platform whores?

/everyone wins
//it'll never happen


I have an Android phone and an Apple tablet.  I feel like if i want to belong in these threads I'll have to start punching myself.
 
2013-01-31 04:04:53 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: True enough, but I'd be willing to bet that there are just as many crappy worthless apps in the Apple store as there are crappy worthless apps in the Google store.


But of course. The real question is what is the availability of triple-A apps in both markets. From what I can see, there are very few top tier titles that are available in one store but not the other. [1]  Even exclusive apps, like Siri, have their equivalents on the Android side (and, frankly, I think that the Google app does a better job, in general).

At this point, it really is mainly a hardware choice and no longer an application choice. Either environment will give you plenty of apps to work with.

[1] It was surprisingly hard not to type "top tier titties"
 
2013-01-31 04:09:53 PM  

Russky: I have an Android phone and an Apple tablet. I feel like if i want to belong in these threads I'll have to start punching myself.


Same here, our house has iOS devices and Android devices (Samsung, Amazon, HtC etc).

Fanboyism only helps the brands, not the consumers.
 
2013-01-31 04:14:26 PM  
I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.
 
2013-01-31 04:26:51 PM  

LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.


Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo
 
2013-01-31 06:00:16 PM  

Disposable Rob: Nope (I'm not the only one with this issue, Google it). Every few months on my stock Nexus 7, any widgets related to BW just go away


Well, I hate to say it but there's nothing else for it - you might have to try one of the brazillion alternatives. Or better yet, go to the platform that doesn't have any widgets at all. That'll show 'em that you don't put up with buggy widgets!

I haven't rebooted my iPhone in months (other than for OS updates), while my Nexus 7 decides to hard reboot every few weeks.

Egads man. You have to reboot every few weeks? I think litigation is in order.
 
2013-01-31 08:02:12 PM  
You don't know how to hold a phone the right way.
7-inch tablets will never sell!
Who needs 4G anyway?
Apple Maps is the Google Maps killer.
It's like comparing a Chevy to a (pick your favorite cool care and place it here).

Added today:
Less apps is more quality!
 
2013-01-31 09:29:37 PM  
"No one will ever need more than 64 apps".

- Me
 
2013-01-31 09:33:04 PM  
No call blocking apps on iphone unless you jailbreak.

Nothing like Juice Defender.

Can't block imessages unless you turn it off.
 
2013-01-31 09:46:23 PM  

DashFieldpaint: I used to love Beautiful Widgets.  Until the latest update.  Now the clock freezes, pretty much making the widget useless to me.  They rewrote the whole thing, I'm assuming for 4.1+ functionality.  I hope they re-rewrite it.  Soon.


Same here. Uninstalled and installed HD Widgets. Even better.
 
2013-02-01 02:12:54 AM  

MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo


I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?
 
2013-02-01 03:15:00 AM  

spelletrader: How about we all just stop being brand/platform whores?

/everyone wins
//it'll never happen


but I derive a significant portion of my self worth from advertising the fact that I have a cooler, more expensive toaster than the rest of the hoi polloi.
 
2013-02-01 07:20:47 AM  

dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?


What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?
 
2013-02-01 09:48:42 AM  

MightyPez: dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?

What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?


I was half joking - but I'm unclear on why you'd need to change your APN settings at all frequently.  International travel or something?
 
2013-02-01 09:54:36 AM  
As an iPod Touch, HT One X and Kindle Fire owner the one thing I can say for certain is that the Amazon apps store is the worst.  The KF is a great device for reading books and watching videos.  For apps, search Google Play to find something then do a search in the Amazon store to see if it is there too.  If you're lucky it is.  The Amazon Store promotes nothing but the latest free crapware and games.
 
2013-02-01 09:58:51 AM  

dbirchall: MightyPez: dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?

What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?

I was half joking - but I'm unclear on why you'd need to change your APN settings at all frequently.  International travel or something?


The big reason is with iPhone's and StraightTalk on AT&T you can get the APN settings loaded through a certificate (like from unlockit.co.nz), but that does not, and can not, add settings for MMS. Without a jailbreak, you need to use the SIM swap method to edit that setting, and it often disappears after restores, updates, and sometimes restarts. With TetherMe installed, the full APN settings are exposed at all tiems so I can switch out APN settings whenever I need to. It's helpful if I'm trying out other prepaid services and, as you mentioned, international service.
 
2013-02-01 10:06:48 AM  

ddam: wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.


That is indeed true, but that does not mean the apps are more profitable on iOS. Apple demands 30% of all sales from Apple devices (and at one point was trying to do the same for online shopping done on Apple products). So, the exact same apps cost more on iOS than they do on Android if the company wants to make the same profit. In addition, all the basic functions on Android are free. On Apple, you have to pay for them.
 
2013-02-01 10:10:28 AM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Even exclusive apps, like Siri, have their equivalents on the Android side (and, frankly, I think that the Google app does a better job, in general).


Siri isn't an app. It is part of iOS since Apple bought it and deleted the app off everyone's phones.

But yes, the Google version in Jelly Bean is much better, especially much faster.
 
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