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(ReadWrite)   Good news: Google Play now has about as many apps as the iOS App Store, and will probably beat it to the million-app mark. Bad news: Quantity doesn't translate to quality   (readwrite.com) divider line 87
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Xai
2013-01-31 07:38:30 AM  
What? but that's the exact argument apple users have been using for the last 5 years - now they are going to change it around because it does not suit them?

Say it isn't so!
 
2013-01-31 07:41:44 AM  

Xai: What? but that's the exact argument apple users have been using for the last 5 years - now they are going to change it around because it does not suit them?

Say it isn't so!


And conversely we'll have users in the other camp crowing about this accomplishment.

This just in: partisans will find any reason to boost their side and put down the other.
 
2013-01-31 07:43:21 AM  
True enough, but I'd be willing to bet that there are just as many crappy worthless apps in the Apple store as there are crappy worthless apps in the Google store.
 
2013-01-31 07:43:51 AM  
Today it released Applause, a service that uses an algorithm to crawl all live apps in the App Store and Google Play to aggregate every app's ranking and user reviews to determine the quality of an individual app.

I've read user reviews...not something I'd generally turn to hoping to glean something useful. It's like reading a youtube thread.

I'm unsurprised at the results though.
 
2013-01-31 07:47:59 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Today it released Applause, a service that uses an algorithm to crawl all live apps in the App Store and Google Play to aggregate every app's ranking and user reviews to determine the quality of an individual app.

I've read user reviews...not something I'd generally turn to hoping to glean something useful. It's like reading a youtube thread.

I'm unsurprised at the results though.


But how else would you know that most apps are worse than 10 holocausts and that developers are, largely, homosexuals with promiscuous mothers?
 
2013-01-31 07:51:37 AM  
iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.
 
2013-01-31 07:59:06 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.


Unfortunately, Android apps can be working great one day and not at all the next. My wife generally throws her Toshiba tablet at me and says, "Fix it!" when her favorite apps go sideways. Usually, fixing it involves the next update.
 
2013-01-31 08:00:45 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: True enough, but I'd be willing to bet that there are just as many crappy worthless apps in the Apple store as there are crappy worthless apps in the Google store.


Absolutely true.
 
2013-01-31 08:04:51 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps.


And that's why it was a bad move for Google to rename their media and app store to 'Google Play.' The platform has all this potential for Serious Productivity, and their brand strategy is ignoring it entirely.
 
2013-01-31 08:05:52 AM  
I use both, and find them pretty equal. For every useful iOS app, Android will usually have an equal counterpart. Also same for Android apps having an iOS counterpart. iOS does seem to have more tablet specific apps then Android.
 
2013-01-31 08:07:42 AM  
Yawn, just an article to start stupid phone flame wars, nothing more.  Each platform has pretty much equally great apps.  I read another article and they said a search for flashlight on iOS app store came up with 100K plus results.  I am sure just as many would show up on the Play Store.
 
2013-01-31 08:08:51 AM  

Dufus: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Unfortunately, Android apps can be working great one day and not at all the next. My wife generally throws her Toshiba tablet at me and says, "Fix it!" when her favorite apps go sideways. Usually, fixing it involves the next update.


I wonder if that is a result of Android developers  having to plan for more devices. I've stuck do the Nexus branded ones and haven't run  into a problem yet.
 
2013-01-31 08:11:42 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: iOS does seem to have more tablet specific apps then Android.


^^ Very true, not enough apps optimized for tablets on Android but I'm sure that is going to change as Android grabs up more of the iPad's marketshare.
 
2013-01-31 08:18:27 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.


Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.
 
2013-01-31 08:21:56 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.


There's an easy counter to the "better games" opinion. You touched on it already. Android allows me to side load apps from anywhere I choose. This allows me to run emulators for many different consoles. ios might have more fun-for-5-minutes-a-day games but Android let me play BoF3, Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, LoZ:LTTP and LoZ:LA, FFVII and VIII, Sim City, Earthbound, etc. The touchscreen controls are easy to get used to as well. At least, they were for me. I can't speak for those with poor coordination.
 
2013-01-31 08:22:27 AM  

Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.


Apple has zero widgets due to the programming restrictions and inability to inter-talk between apps.  Also beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.
 
2013-01-31 08:22:33 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.


Can you sync a Wiimote with SuperGNES?  I have NES.emu for Nintendo games and it allows me to sync a Wiimote right in the app, pretty awesome for my Nexus 7 on trips.  I will purchase said SuperGNES if it has controller support, I hate touch screen controls for d-pads
 
2013-01-31 08:28:40 AM  

moistD: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Can you sync a Wiimote with SuperGNES?  I have NES.emu for Nintendo games and it allows me to sync a Wiimote right in the app, pretty awesome for my Nexus 7 on trips.  I will purchase said SuperGNES if it has controller support, I hate touch screen controls for d-pads


It can use a wiimote if you aren't on 4.2 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccpcreations.androi d .WiiUseAndroid
Otherwise you need to root to use gamepad.
 
2013-01-31 08:29:22 AM  

Carth: I wonder if that is a result of Android developers  having to plan for more devices. I've stuck do the Nexus branded ones and haven't run  into a problem yet.


That's exactly what it is actually. Done a little Android development and when creating a project, you have to include specific libraries and dependencies depending on which OS version you are targeting. Plus you have to include different graphic assets for tablets/large phones, to account for varying screen sizes. It can become a pain including support for both. You can devise a fix for bug that is only existing on one version of the OS, and inadvertently introduce a bug for a different version.

I will say, for the shiat I give Apple, their philosophy about keeping the OS unified across platforms certainly makes development easier.
 
2013-01-31 08:29:37 AM  
Damn lack of edit funtion. Either way there is a free version of SuperGNES you can download to see if your controller works. You just can't save with the free version.
 
2013-01-31 08:30:04 AM  

Xai: What? but that's the exact argument apple users have been using for the last 5 years - now they are going to change it around because it does not suit them?

Say it isn't so!


Do you recall what Apple users said 20 years ago?
 
2013-01-31 08:32:39 AM  

Carth: moistD: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Can you sync a Wiimote with SuperGNES?  I have NES.emu for Nintendo games and it allows me to sync a Wiimote right in the app, pretty awesome for my Nexus 7 on trips.  I will purchase said SuperGNES if it has controller support, I hate touch screen controls for d-pads

It can use a wiimote if you aren't on 4.2 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccpcreations.androi d .WiiUseAndroid
Otherwise you need to root to use gamepad.


Carth: Damn lack of edit funtion. Either way there is a free version of SuperGNES you can download to see if your controller works. You just can't save with the free version.


awesome, thanks!
 
2013-01-31 08:34:24 AM  

Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps.


That's because the Android OS lets apps actually interact with the OS and other apps.  Apple won't let developers do that with iOS apps.

The most useful app I've used on either platform is one that will turn off your phone's lock screen password when you're connected to specified wi-fi signals.  So when you're connected to your home wi-fi you don't have to enter your password every time you pick up your phone.  But when you leave your wi-fi the lock is reengaged.

Apple would never allow an app like that for the iPhone.
 
2013-01-31 08:41:39 AM  

ColSanders: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps.

That's because the Android OS lets apps actually interact with the OS and other apps.  Apple won't let developers do that with iOS apps.

The most useful app I've used on either platform is one that will turn off your phone's lock screen password when you're connected to specified wi-fi signals.  So when you're connected to your home wi-fi you don't have to enter your password every time you pick up your phone.  But when you leave your wi-fi the lock is reengaged.

Apple would never allow an app like that for the iPhone.


What's the name of that app? Would love it for my phone.
 
2013-01-31 08:46:28 AM  

kalor: Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.

Apple has zero widgets due to the programming restrictions and inability to inter-talk between apps.  Also beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.


Nope (I'm not the only one with this issue, Google it). Every few months on my stock Nexus 7, any widgets related to BW just go away and it's not the only app that does this. It's one of the major issues that have kept me sticking with the iPhone. That and I haven't rebooted my iPhone in months (other than for OS updates), while my Nexus 7 decides to hard reboot every few weeks.
 
2013-01-31 08:49:06 AM  
In my house we have an iPod Touch, an iPad Mini, a Kindle Fire HD and an Nexus 7 running JB 4.2.

My favorite is the Nexus, but I get the feeling that Google is nowhere near as disciplined as Apple in terms of QA and testing. New releases have unintended consequences not only for 3rd party applications but for things like power management, etc.  There's a reason Apple does things the way they do.

Back on topic though: I was a little concerned that I wouldn't find fun / useful apps for the Nexus but so far there's plenty. Lots of crap spyware / adware disguised as barely playable games too, of course. Which I have also noticed in AppStore.
 
2013-01-31 08:50:22 AM  
kalor: ...beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.

http://support.levelupstudio.com/discussions/beautiful-widgets/4374- pr oblem-with-widget-disappearing

Betting you're feeling pretty stupid right about now.
 
2013-01-31 08:58:13 AM  

ColSanders: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps.

That's because the Android OS lets apps actually interact with the OS and other apps.  Apple won't let developers do that with iOS apps.

The most useful app I've used on either platform is one that will turn off your phone's lock screen password when you're connected to specified wi-fi signals.  So when you're connected to your home wi-fi you don't have to enter your password every time you pick up your phone.  But when you leave your wi-fi the lock is reengaged.

Apple would never allow an app like that for the iPhone.


Yeah, that sounds pretty awesome.  If you happen to remember the name of the app, it would be most appreciated!
 
2013-01-31 08:59:04 AM  

kalor:  Also beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.


They DO disappear  from the screen you placed them on and it was a known issue for awhile, but I'm pretty sure it's been fixed. Hasn't happened to me in months.

Disposable Rob: Nope (I'm not the only one with this issue, Google it). Every few months on my stock Nexus 7, any widgets related to BW just go away and it's not the only app that does this. It's one of the major issues that have kept me sticking with the iPhone. That and I haven't rebooted my iPhone in months (other than for OS updates), while my Nexus 7 decides to hard reboot every few weeks.


Yeesh, that sucks. Sounds more like you got a bad tablet. Tried an RMA? Asus is pretty good about returns. I've had zero problems with my Nexus 7, love it. Makes the perfect comic reader.
 
2013-01-31 08:59:38 AM  
I've always hated the number of apps pissing contest. I don't know why companies hype it so much. It means there's just that much more garbage for me to wade through to find something useful.
 
2013-01-31 09:01:00 AM  
ColSanders:

The most useful app I've used on either platform is one that will turn off your phone's lock screen password when you're connected to specified wi-fi signals.  So when you're connected to your home wi-fi you don't have to enter your password every time you pick up your phone.  But when you leave your wi-fi the lock is reengaged.


Is that Tasker? Might have to finally buy it, guys at work love it.
 
2013-01-31 09:06:28 AM  

YodaBlues: kalor:  Also beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.

They DO disappear  from the screen you placed them on and it was a known issue for awhile, but I'm pretty sure it's been fixed. Hasn't happened to me in months.

Disposable Rob: Nope (I'm not the only one with this issue, Google it). Every few months on my stock Nexus 7, any widgets related to BW just go away and it's not the only app that does this. It's one of the major issues that have kept me sticking with the iPhone. That and I haven't rebooted my iPhone in months (other than for OS updates), while my Nexus 7 decides to hard reboot every few weeks.

Yeesh, that sucks. Sounds more like you got a bad tablet. Tried an RMA? Asus is pretty good about returns. I've had zero problems with my Nexus 7, love it. Makes the perfect comic reader.


Anyone considering buying a Nexus 7, here's a bit of advice. Purchase it from a brick and mortar store; Staples, Best Buy, etc. Don't buy a used one. The early releases had some quality control issues. Buying from a brick and mortar store makes it easier to return should you have a problem.
 
2013-01-31 09:12:24 AM  

kalor: Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.

Apple has zero widgets due to the programming restrictions and inability to inter-talk between apps.  Also beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.


I used to love Beautiful Widgets.  Until the latest update.  Now the clock freezes, pretty much making the widget useless to me.  They rewrote the whole thing, I'm assuming for 4.1+ functionality.  I hope they re-rewrite it.  Soon.
 
2013-01-31 09:13:21 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Anyone considering buying a Nexus 7, here's a bit of advice. Purchase it from a brick and mortar store; Staples, Best Buy, etc. Don't buy a used one. The early releases had some quality control issues. Buying from a brick and mortar store makes it easier to return should you have a problem.


Unfortunately, I didn't have that option, although I did check around my area. I bought my mine about a week before they dropped the price on the 16GB version and Google was nice enough to allow me to return the 8GB and upgrade to the 16GB at the same cost.
 
2013-01-31 09:19:46 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: kalor: ...beautiful widgets doesn't just "disappear" every few months, you either uninstalled it or lying outright...i'm going with outright lie.

http://support.levelupstudio.com/discussions/beautiful-widgets/4374- pr oblem-with-widget-disappearing

Betting you're feeling pretty stupid right about now.


Between the wife and I, since 2011, with 3 different phones, 3 different interfaces (Sense, CM, Touchwiz), never had the issue, I have a feeling it isn't as massively wide spread as some would like to say it is


YodaBlues: ColSanders:

The most useful app I've used on either platform is one that will turn off your phone's lock screen password when you're connected to specified wi-fi signals.  So when you're connected to your home wi-fi you don't have to enter your password every time you pick up your phone.  But when you leave your wi-fi the lock is reengaged.


Is that Tasker? Might have to finally buy it, guys at work love it.



 Yep, Tasker will let you do that. Awesome app. Has a bit of a learning curve to get around, but is AMAZINGLY powerful. People share their scripts which helps if some of the scripting is a bit over your head, you can learn by example or just grab theirs if it's exactly what you want to do.
Another thing Tasker can take the place of, is a "find my phone" app, you can set it up to txt you back its GPS loc if lost, or take a photo, or turn up the volume so you can ring it to find it.

Something to consider before buying, you can buy it via the Google store, or direct from them.
Read that part of their FAQ before making the purchase:
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-ov.html#g4
I originally went with direct from them cause it was cheaper, but now that I own a tablet too... doh. Will eventually install my directly purchased copy to my wife's phone and get it from the Play store using my gmail account so it'll work on my tablet too.
 
2013-01-31 09:23:18 AM  
Hold on now, the "Quantity /= Quality" argument was denied by Apple fanboys when Google didn't have as many apps, but now that they've caught up, it's suddenly embraced? Hypocrites....
 
2013-01-31 09:23:35 AM  

piercedgeek: Yep, Tasker will let you do that. Awesome app. Has a bit of a learning curve to get around, but is AMAZINGLY powerful. People share their scripts which helps if some of the scripting is a bit over your head, you can learn by example or just grab theirs if it's exactly what you want to do.
Another thing Tasker can take the place of, is a "find my phone" app, you can set it up to txt you back its GPS loc if lost, or take a photo, or turn up the volume so you can ring it to find it.

Something to consider before buying, you can buy it via the Google store, or direct from them.
Read that part of their FAQ before making the purchase:
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-ov.html#g4
I originally went with direct from them cause it was cheaper, but now that I own a tablet too... doh. Will eventually install my directly purchased copy to my wife's phone and get it from the Play store using my gmail account so it'll work on my tablet too.


Awesome, thanks for the info! Probably go through the store for the same reasons, so I can use it on my app.
 
2013-01-31 09:23:51 AM  

tallen702: Hold on now, the "Quantity /= Quality" argument was denied by Apple fanboys when Google didn't have as many apps, but now that they've caught up, it's suddenly embraced? Hypocrites....


You're a little late to the party, champ
 
2013-01-31 09:24:31 AM  
How about we all just stop being brand/platform whores?

/everyone wins
//it'll never happen
 
Xai
2013-01-31 09:25:10 AM  

MightyPez: Xai: What? but that's the exact argument apple users have been using for the last 5 years - now they are going to change it around because it does not suit them?

Say it isn't so!

And conversely we'll have users in the other camp crowing about this accomplishment.

This just in: partisans will find any reason to boost their side and put down the other.


Why be partisan when it comes to corporations though?
 
2013-01-31 09:25:36 AM  

YodaBlues: Awesome, thanks for the info! Probably go through the store for the same reasons, so I can use it on my app tablet.


/Pre-coffee brainfarts
 
2013-01-31 09:25:45 AM  

YodaBlues: Is that Tasker? Might have to finally buy it, guys at work love it.


I use Unlock with Wifi for that purpose. Tasker looks a lot more comprehensive.
 
2013-01-31 09:26:51 AM  
In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.
 
2013-01-31 09:30:23 AM  
To those asking about the app I mentioned that removes your lock screen password when connected to specified wi-fi signals, it is called Unlock With Wifi.

LINKY

IIRC there is a free version that lets you specify only one wi-fi signal, but the paid version lets you add several.  Best money I've ever spent on an app.
 
2013-01-31 09:32:01 AM  

Dufus: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Unfortunately, Android apps can be working great one day and not at all the next. My wife generally throws her Toshiba tablet at me and says, "Fix it!" when her favorite apps go sideways. Usually, fixing it involves the next update.


Titanium Backup the app + data before updating any critical apps. Restore over a bad update as necessary.

I believe it was announced recently that Carbon backup is now on Google Play; I've never tried it but it's there as a free alternative to Titanium Backup.
 
2013-01-31 09:35:05 AM  

ColSanders: To those asking about the app I mentioned that removes your lock screen password when connected to specified wi-fi signals, it is called Unlock With Wifi.

LINKY

IIRC there is a free version that lets you specify only one wi-fi signal, but the paid version lets you add several.  Best money I've ever spent on an app.


While I think that's a cook app, is it really that hard to unlock a screen?
 
2013-01-31 09:40:28 AM  

Xai: MightyPez: Xai: What? but that's the exact argument apple users have been using for the last 5 years - now they are going to change it around because it does not suit them?

Say it isn't so!

And conversely we'll have users in the other camp crowing about this accomplishment.

This just in: partisans will find any reason to boost their side and put down the other.

Why be partisan when it comes to corporations though?


Because despite our progress we are still all a bunch of psychotic tribal apes?

I don't care for it either, but if it wasn't the phone in your pocket it would be the car you drive or the sneakers you wear. We all find a reason to fear and loathe whatever is not us.
 
2013-01-31 09:40:57 AM  

H31N0US: ColSanders: To those asking about the app I mentioned that removes your lock screen password when connected to specified wi-fi signals, it is called Unlock With Wifi.

LINKY

IIRC there is a free version that lets you specify only one wi-fi signal, but the paid version lets you add several.  Best money I've ever spent on an app.

While I think that's a cook app, is it really that hard to unlock a screen?


It's a pain in the ass and having your phone not have a lock screen when it's in your home is a great feature that gets rid of the annoyance at home. The app doesn't cure cancer but it's typical example of exactly when most people want out of a phone app and will pay money for.
 
2013-01-31 09:41:20 AM  

SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.


I will probably get that phone when my contract expires in the next few months. No more contract crap for me.
I only wish it had a MicroSD slot.
 
2013-01-31 10:21:53 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Anyone considering buying a Nexus 7, here's a bit of advice. Purchase it from a brick and mortar store; Staples, Best Buy, etc. Don't buy a used one. The early releases had some quality control issues. Buying from a brick and mortar store makes it easier to return should you have a problem.


That may be the case with mine which is from the second or third wave of tablets Google sent out.
 
2013-01-31 10:37:23 AM  
wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.
 
2013-01-31 10:39:26 AM  

moistD: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Can you sync a Wiimote with SuperGNES?  I have NES.emu for Nintendo games and it allows me to sync a Wiimote right in the app, pretty awesome for my Nexus 7 on trips.  I will purchase said SuperGNES if it has controller support, I hate touch screen controls for d-pads


I have a Sony Xperia Play with the built in controller.  D-pad, two senors for the analog, four main buttons, L and R on the shoulders and Start and Menu buttons.  Slides out like the keyboard would on other phones.  Gameboid, Snes9x, and RockNES all installed with about 20 games for each.  Man, I love it.

I don't play it as much as I did when I first got the phone, but it's handy for different occasions.  Nice to have a device with phone, internet, messaging and portable gaming all right there.
 
2013-01-31 11:41:27 AM  

Dufus: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Unfortunately, Android apps can be working great one day and not at all the next. My wife generally throws her Toshiba tablet at me and says, "Fix it!" when her favorite apps go sideways. Usually, fixing it involves the next update.


So what you're saying is, you disabled app updates because you're a moron and that is Google's fault?
 
2013-01-31 11:42:05 AM  

Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.


Widgets are not apps.
 
2013-01-31 11:48:52 AM  
Anyways, I'm not surprised that some Apple blog reviewed apps and said every app on iOS is better than the exact same apps running on Android. Given that Google makes 9 out of the top 10 apps and the other one is Facebook, in reality Apple is severely lacking in app quality.
 
2013-01-31 12:16:24 PM  
Excluding games, there are only about 10 apps I use. Most of those are on both platforms. The ones that aren't have an analogous app on the other platform.
 
2013-01-31 12:25:54 PM  

Bullseyed: Disposable Rob: Carth: iOS has better games on it but Google has more useful apps. Last time I checked Apple doesn't have anything like Nova Launcher, Smart Tools and Beautiful Widgets. Oh, SuperGNES is pretty awesome too.

Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months? I'm glad Apple doesn't have anything like that.

Widgets are not apps.


Beautiful Widgets is an app.
 
2013-01-31 01:00:38 PM  
Yeah, it takes over a week to get approved for iTunes' app store, but about 20 minutes on Google Play.

On the other hand, Google Play doesn't even offer 'promo codes' - let along a 'promo campaign' where developers can give away their product to promote it. Apple's market also tends to sell better.

Amazon's market is probably the hardest to get into. I have a Virtual Cat Toy app for tablets, and finally got it on all the major markets, but Amazon was the pickiest in their testing.... they expected a cat to be disappointed when, after answering a phone call on their tablet, they returned to find the cat toy had exited and required them to spend another 10 seconds getting it set up again.

Sigh

Thankfully, a message back to Amazon cleared up the misunderstanding.

At any rate, I think Palm has the best app market so far when it comes to promotions. Shame HP got stung by little Hitler's drive to get rid of all hardware during his tenure as CEO.
 
2013-01-31 01:00:45 PM  
FTFA
But, as our readers so dutifully informed us, they do not really care. App store volume has become a non-story.
Well tell the stupid farks that complain about WP's 120,000
 
2013-01-31 01:02:52 PM  

Disposable Rob: Beautiful Widgets? The app that just ups and disappears every few months?


LOL, like i devices have no bugs.  Would you like me to google around for a few?

Either way, the problem described doesn't make any sense if it's happening "once every few months."   The bug linked in that post is only triggered on a reboot, but most people in the BW thread don't say anything to that effect.  I honestly think this is more of a developer issue; a large number of devs will blame Google even though they're the ones not doing it right.

For example, most games ask for the "Prevent phone from sleeping" permission to keep the screen on when it's not necessary.  This permission is for keeping the processor running when the screen is off.  A quick Google told me the proper way of keeping the screen on (requires no permission).

I'm running a GNex with the stock Clock widget right on my front screen for the past two months and it's still here.
 
2013-01-31 01:06:06 PM  

ColSanders: That's because the Android OS lets apps actually interact with the OS and other apps. Apple won't let developers do that with iOS apps.


You're simply wrong about this.  Bro do you even iOS?
 
2013-01-31 01:32:36 PM  
I came in here to tout Tasker. I see I am late.
 
2013-01-31 01:51:55 PM  

SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.


That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60
 
2013-01-31 02:03:31 PM  

bingethinker: SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.

That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60


The new Sheryl Crow album runs $300.
But I hear it's pretty good.
 
2013-01-31 02:09:15 PM  

poot_rootbeer: You're simply wrong about this. Bro do you even iOS?



It's more correct to say that Apple did not build in the hooks to enable it in an easy fashion. In Android, sharing between apps is just another OS function, something that the developer doesn't need to concern himself with. In iOS-land, sharing has to be handled on a case by case basis by developers since the OS has no facility for hooking in to a global system. This is a way that OS is maddeningly inconsistent.
 
2013-01-31 02:40:23 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: bingethinker: SVenus: In other news, the Nexus 4 is back in stock at Google.  If you're on iOS, you now can have an unlocked Android phone as a spare for the price of about ten typical iTunes apps and the new Sheryl Crow album.

That's quite a deal, considering a typical iTunes app goes for 99 cents or $1.99

/average selling price of iTunes apps: $1.60

The new Sheryl Crow album runs $300.
But I hear it's pretty good.


For $300 I want a live performance from Sheryl. And then maybe she can sing for me too.
 
2013-01-31 02:49:40 PM  

bingethinker: For $300 I want a live performance from Sheryl. And then maybe she can sing for me too.


All Jimmy Kimmel got the other night from Sheryl Crow was a song and the word "LOSER" scrawled on his forehead with lipstick
 
2013-01-31 02:57:29 PM  

likefunbutnot: poot_rootbeer: You're simply wrong about this. Bro do you even iOS?


It's more correct to say that Apple did not build in the hooks to enable it in an easy fashion. In Android, sharing between apps is just another OS function, something that the developer doesn't need to concern himself with. In iOS-land, sharing has to be handled on a case by case basis by developers since the OS has no facility for hooking in to a global system. This is a way that OS is maddeningly inconsistent.


That's part of it.  The larger part is the restrictions Apple places on apps for interacting with the hardware.  That's why you have to jailbreak the damn things if you want something as simple as an on/off switch for wifi on your home screen.
 
2013-01-31 03:20:35 PM  

ddam: wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.


Apples store revenue is about 15 Million a day, google play is 3.5 million.
 
2013-01-31 03:23:14 PM  

spelletrader: How about we all just stop being brand/platform whores?

/everyone wins
//it'll never happen


I have an Android phone and an Apple tablet.  I feel like if i want to belong in these threads I'll have to start punching myself.
 
2013-01-31 04:04:53 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: True enough, but I'd be willing to bet that there are just as many crappy worthless apps in the Apple store as there are crappy worthless apps in the Google store.


But of course. The real question is what is the availability of triple-A apps in both markets. From what I can see, there are very few top tier titles that are available in one store but not the other. [1]  Even exclusive apps, like Siri, have their equivalents on the Android side (and, frankly, I think that the Google app does a better job, in general).

At this point, it really is mainly a hardware choice and no longer an application choice. Either environment will give you plenty of apps to work with.

[1] It was surprisingly hard not to type "top tier titties"
 
2013-01-31 04:09:53 PM  

Russky: I have an Android phone and an Apple tablet. I feel like if i want to belong in these threads I'll have to start punching myself.


Same here, our house has iOS devices and Android devices (Samsung, Amazon, HtC etc).

Fanboyism only helps the brands, not the consumers.
 
2013-01-31 04:14:26 PM  
I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.
 
2013-01-31 04:26:51 PM  

LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.


Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo
 
2013-01-31 06:00:16 PM  

Disposable Rob: Nope (I'm not the only one with this issue, Google it). Every few months on my stock Nexus 7, any widgets related to BW just go away


Well, I hate to say it but there's nothing else for it - you might have to try one of the brazillion alternatives. Or better yet, go to the platform that doesn't have any widgets at all. That'll show 'em that you don't put up with buggy widgets!

I haven't rebooted my iPhone in months (other than for OS updates), while my Nexus 7 decides to hard reboot every few weeks.

Egads man. You have to reboot every few weeks? I think litigation is in order.
 
2013-01-31 08:02:12 PM  
You don't know how to hold a phone the right way.
7-inch tablets will never sell!
Who needs 4G anyway?
Apple Maps is the Google Maps killer.
It's like comparing a Chevy to a (pick your favorite cool care and place it here).

Added today:
Less apps is more quality!
 
2013-01-31 09:29:37 PM  
"No one will ever need more than 64 apps".

- Me
 
2013-01-31 09:33:04 PM  
No call blocking apps on iphone unless you jailbreak.

Nothing like Juice Defender.

Can't block imessages unless you turn it off.
 
2013-01-31 09:46:23 PM  

DashFieldpaint: I used to love Beautiful Widgets.  Until the latest update.  Now the clock freezes, pretty much making the widget useless to me.  They rewrote the whole thing, I'm assuming for 4.1+ functionality.  I hope they re-rewrite it.  Soon.


Same here. Uninstalled and installed HD Widgets. Even better.
 
2013-02-01 02:12:54 AM  

MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo


I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?
 
2013-02-01 03:15:00 AM  

spelletrader: How about we all just stop being brand/platform whores?

/everyone wins
//it'll never happen


but I derive a significant portion of my self worth from advertising the fact that I have a cooler, more expensive toaster than the rest of the hoi polloi.
 
2013-02-01 07:20:47 AM  

dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?


What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?
 
2013-02-01 09:48:42 AM  

MightyPez: dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?

What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?


I was half joking - but I'm unclear on why you'd need to change your APN settings at all frequently.  International travel or something?
 
2013-02-01 09:54:36 AM  
As an iPod Touch, HT One X and Kindle Fire owner the one thing I can say for certain is that the Amazon apps store is the worst.  The KF is a great device for reading books and watching videos.  For apps, search Google Play to find something then do a search in the Amazon store to see if it is there too.  If you're lucky it is.  The Amazon Store promotes nothing but the latest free crapware and games.
 
2013-02-01 09:58:51 AM  

dbirchall: MightyPez: dbirchall: MightyPez: LesserEvil: I'm surprised the thread has been up this long and nobody mentioned the upcoming iOS6 untethered jailbreak to be released Sunday.

Oh I am champing at the bit for it. I use Straight Talk and the only way to change my APN settings without a jailbreak is to use the SIM swap method. It's a pain in the ass, whereas TetherMe just exposes to settings straight away.

And I miss infinifolders, SBSettings, and Lockinfo

I use Straight Talk too, and what did everything you said after that mean?

What do you mean? APN/TetherMe or the apps I missed?

I was half joking - but I'm unclear on why you'd need to change your APN settings at all frequently.  International travel or something?


The big reason is with iPhone's and StraightTalk on AT&T you can get the APN settings loaded through a certificate (like from unlockit.co.nz), but that does not, and can not, add settings for MMS. Without a jailbreak, you need to use the SIM swap method to edit that setting, and it often disappears after restores, updates, and sometimes restarts. With TetherMe installed, the full APN settings are exposed at all tiems so I can switch out APN settings whenever I need to. It's helpful if I'm trying out other prepaid services and, as you mentioned, international service.
 
2013-02-01 10:06:48 AM  

ddam: wasn't there an article that said while Android has bigger market share than iOS, the iOS users spend more money on apps? It's one of the reasons why apps tend to get the iOS update first (if they are cross platform). Not the only reason mind you, as some people have already touched upon, the different OS versions of Android make updating a bit harder on the developers.


That is indeed true, but that does not mean the apps are more profitable on iOS. Apple demands 30% of all sales from Apple devices (and at one point was trying to do the same for online shopping done on Apple products). So, the exact same apps cost more on iOS than they do on Android if the company wants to make the same profit. In addition, all the basic functions on Android are free. On Apple, you have to pay for them.
 
2013-02-01 10:10:28 AM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Even exclusive apps, like Siri, have their equivalents on the Android side (and, frankly, I think that the Google app does a better job, in general).


Siri isn't an app. It is part of iOS since Apple bought it and deleted the app off everyone's phones.

But yes, the Google version in Jelly Bean is much better, especially much faster.
 
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