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(BBC)   9-year-old boy in home invasion nearly experiences the axe effect   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 16
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8350 clicks; posted to Main » on 31 Jan 2013 at 9:40 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-31 09:56:07 AM  
4 votes:
Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.
2013-01-31 11:22:27 AM  
2 votes:

JMel: atomicmask: Quaker: Lee451: I agree with atomicmask. Thank God taking everyone's guns solves all crime and makes people safer. One of the invaders may have been hurt.

Given the fact that Britain's homicide rate makes the U.S. look like some Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic free-for-all by comparison, I would say that, yes, it has made people safer. Or are you saying that because it didn't eliminate 100% of violent crime then it's not worth doing at all?

Also, and I'm not sure about this, but aren't shotguns still relatively accessible to people in Britain?

Except that Violent crime is far worse in Britain then in the united states. you are more likely to die from violent crime in the us, but you have a far, far, far, far less chance of experiencing violent crime at all in the united states.

So I guess its up to you, do you like to be a perpetual victim that lives a long life being abused by thugs? Go to britain. Do you want to go threw life with little chance of violent crime happening to you but if it does you may die? Stay in the united states.

personally I rather have little chance of violent crime at all.

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As to the UK being more violent than the US, I would be cautious of any comparisons you see as they tend to use the British Crime Survey for UK figures, not police report numbers like they do for the US. Also, some crimes that are categorised as violent in the UK are not categorised as violent in the US so numbers rarely compare well.
2013-01-31 10:48:38 AM  
2 votes:

Lee451: I agree with atomicmask. Thank God taking everyone's guns solves all crime and makes people safer. One of the invaders may have been hurt.


Given the fact that Britain's homicide rate makes the U.S. look like some Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic free-for-all by comparison, I would say that, yes, it has made people safer. Or are you saying that because it didn't eliminate 100% of violent crime then it's not worth doing at all?

Also, and I'm not sure about this, but aren't shotguns still relatively accessible to people in Britain?
2013-01-31 10:41:57 AM  
2 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: whizbangthedirtfarmer: atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.

If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.

If I had to choose, I'd rather not have a criminal in my house. If one did happen to force their way in, I think I'd like to be in possession of a firearm, and not in the position of hoping they will show restraint with my families safety.

But that's just me.


Going by the events in the story the guy would have had to be carrying a firearm when he went towards his front door to be able for his possesion of a firearm to be of use. And as the time between hearing the noise that led him to approach his front door and the door being breached was so short he probably wouldn't have time to collect a firearm from where ever it was stored. So for a firearm to be of use in this situation he would have to be carrying his firearm at all times in his home.

/Just thinking out loud....
2013-01-31 10:31:35 AM  
2 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.

If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.


If I had to choose, I'd rather not have a criminal in my house. If one did happen to force their way in, I think I'd like to be in possession of a firearm, and not in the position of hoping they will show restraint with my families safety.

But that's just me.
2013-01-31 10:29:20 AM  
2 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.

If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.


The way it works dumbass, is when you hear the idiot trying to break in, you get your gun. Once they're in, you di not ask what their doing, what they want, or scream :Get Out". You simply shoot.  Get a gun, learn to use it and protect yourself.

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2013-01-31 10:07:32 AM  
2 votes:

Lee451: I agree with atomicmask. Thank God taking everyone's guns solves all crime and makes people safer. One of the invaders may have been hurt.


Yeah, that's what exactly what would have happened.

Rather than, you know, the home invaders having guns.
2013-01-31 10:04:30 AM  
2 votes:
I agree with atomicmask. Thank God taking everyone's guns solves all crime and makes people safer. One of the invaders may have been hurt.
2013-01-31 11:40:55 AM  
1 votes:
A bit more info about comparing US to UK crime rates -> http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swa n n-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/

/Yes, it's a blog but the guy seems to have researched the issue.
2013-01-31 10:58:50 AM  
1 votes:
Maybe it's just me, but i prefer not to dwell on the miniscule chance that someone might break into my house - while i was there - to rob me.

I'd rather spend that time thinking about the equally miniscule chance that Alyssa Milano and Jeri Ryan might be in a car together and have a breakdown outside my house while i just happened to be mixing up warm Jello in the hot tub.
2013-01-31 10:57:55 AM  
1 votes:

Quaker: Lee451: I agree with atomicmask. Thank God taking everyone's guns solves all crime and makes people safer. One of the invaders may have been hurt.

Given the fact that Britain's homicide rate makes the U.S. look like some Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic free-for-all by comparison, I would say that, yes, it has made people safer. Or are you saying that because it didn't eliminate 100% of violent crime then it's not worth doing at all?

Also, and I'm not sure about this, but aren't shotguns still relatively accessible to people in Britain?


Yes, you need a shotgun cert and the rules change for under-18's, but there are plenty of places to buy shotguns. You can by all sorts of weapons in the UK but their usage and storage is heavily controlled.
2013-01-31 10:34:09 AM  
1 votes:

Brick-House: whizbangthedirtfarmer: atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.

If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.

The way it works dumbass, is when you hear the idiot trying to break in, you get your gun. Once they're in, you di not ask what their doing, what they want, or scream :Get Out". You simply shoot.  Get a gun, learn to use it and protect yourself.


I'm not of the school of 'shoot first, ask questions later'. I would give them the opportunity to re-think their decision of entering my home. It would be a small window, but it still would be offered.
2013-01-31 10:27:33 AM  
1 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.

If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.


And if I had to choose, I'd rather have the right to protect my family and my house with my own gun, dumbass.
2013-01-31 10:20:57 AM  
1 votes:
That kid's a pussy who should watch more movies.

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2013-01-31 10:17:32 AM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: Good thing they didn't have any firearms, or else the home owner may have infringed on the robbers rights to threaten and harm his son and take his personal belongings. We gotta protect the rights of criminals.


If I had to choose, I'd rather have a criminal in my house with an axe or a knife rather than a gun, dumbass.
2013-01-31 09:52:31 AM  
1 votes:
Scumbags. These POS are so stupid they think rich people have pilers of cash lying around like Scrooge McDuck or something, never having heard of bank accounts.
The reason they get to this point is tha British cops do f*ck all about car crime, instead relying on harder to steal cars and crooked insurance companies.
 
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