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2013-01-31 09:21:54 AM  

Dreyelle: In 2007, there were 4,726 children exported from Guatemala to the United States. In 2009, the number reduced to 754, in 2011 - to only 32. Vietnam also banned the "export" of its children. In 2007, U.S. citizens adopted 828 Vietnamese children, in 2010 - 9, in 2011 - 0. Even the Chinese export of children to the U.S. has decreased by 50% over the past five years.

I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.


Your kneejerk racism is unacceptable.
 
2013-01-31 09:24:52 AM  

davidphogan: This phenomenon has an explanation. It is called the lack-of-attachment syndrome. This diagnosis, along with fetal alcohol syndrome, is attributed in the United States to adopted children, especially to those adopted from Russia.

Am I the only one who read that in a Rocky & Bullwinkle announcer voice?


www.pikabit.net
 
2013-01-31 09:26:00 AM  
 If Russia and China and other countries really wanted to poke the dynamite monkey
they would close off adoptions to the U.S. for one reason. No guaranteed health care.
The howls of moral confusion from the wing-nuts and religious freaks would be audible in
what's left of Timbuktu.
 
2013-01-31 09:26:29 AM  
50+ posts and I wonder if anyone else watched the linked video in the farking article?

/yes, Pravda is a joke, but the video is not.
 
2013-01-31 09:26:33 AM  
what some of you think you understand about overseas adoption indicates your IQ's are about the same as the number of teeth left in your pieholes.
 
2013-01-31 09:27:14 AM  
Isn't Pravda like the Russian Onion?
 
2013-01-31 09:28:10 AM  

MNguy: I want a cute little Asian baby, he she would get on splendidly with my labradoodle pup.


FTFY. If you're going with the stereotype, go all the way.
 
2013-01-31 09:30:45 AM  

Gwendolyn: While I personally think attachment theory is crap because it basically blames the parents (mostly the mother) for everything, that article was off on the coo-coo train.


 Propaganda.  How does it work?
 
2013-01-31 09:33:45 AM  
Sorry, but reading this in Pravda gives this about as much credence as the story last week (earlier this week?) about the Norks eating their own children. Someone is forwarding their own agenda against members of another country. This time we're just on the receiving end.
 
2013-01-31 09:34:21 AM  

Mark Ratner: 50+ posts and I wonder if anyone else watched the linked video in the farking article?

/yes, Pravda is a joke, but the video is not.


Seen it many times. It was a Fark article, IIRC. The thing is, this chickie lost custody of her kids and went to jail. And she's HATED and villified in this country. Death threats. TFA is implying that her behavior is acceptable by US standards, and that any Russian children adopted by US parents will be treated the same. Not true. Yes there are some disgusting, abusive farks in this country, both adoptive and bio. But really, is TFA saying that their own country has none?
 
2013-01-31 09:36:04 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dreyelle: In 2007, there were 4,726 children exported from Guatemala to the United States. In 2009, the number reduced to 754, in 2011 - to only 32. Vietnam also banned the "export" of its children. In 2007, U.S. citizens adopted 828 Vietnamese children, in 2010 - 9, in 2011 - 0. Even the Chinese export of children to the U.S. has decreased by 50% over the past five years.

I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.

Your kneejerk racism is unacceptable.


Sadly, adoption *everywhere* is tied strongly to race.

There are all sorts of issues with African Americans in the US- I've adopted multiracial kids and know a lot of other people who have, and it's really a mixed bag on how it goes.  There is resistance from both whites and blacks.

But foreign adoptions are just as bad.  My sister adopted from Guatemala, and it's not an accident that her daughter is primarily Mayan, not Hispanic.  I've known people who've done Peru and Columbia and seen how lighter-skinned children are handled compared to the darker ones.  If you look at the fees associated with international adoption from various countries it becomes instantly obvious the prices are higher the lighter the skin.

Or if you'd rather deal with sex, I know a lot of people with Chinese adoptees.  Interestingly, they are all female- what are the odds?

Protip: adoption is tied very strongly into deeply held beliefs about the worth of various people: race, sex, background, income, family situation, etc, and humanity is truly farked up when it comes to things like that.
 
2013-01-31 09:36:09 AM  

Dreyelle: I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.


I'm going to go out on a limb here & assume you've never tried to adopt a child in the US. Let me just give you a quick rundown of some of the pitfalls Mr. SWAF & I encountered when we looked into it years ago:

- open adoptions where the birth mother can change her mind & regain custody;
- birth *grandparents* who stalk the adoptive family because they're upset their daughter gave "their blood" away;
- adoptions where the birth father (if he finds out years after the fact that he did indeed father a child) can get visitation rights;
- adoptions where one or both birth parents actively look to get their child back (via parental kidnapping) because the courts forcibly terminated their rights & they're p*issed off;
- adoptive kids with such severe physical & psychological problems that at least one prospective adoptive parent would have to quit their job to become a lifelong, 24/7 caregiver;
- adoption agency personnel who actively discourage white couples from adopting non-white babies so the children can "retain their cultural identity";
- exorbitant fees charged by some agencies (most are which are non-refundable even if the adoption doesn't go through);
- the US legal process which takes 2-3x as long as a foreign adoption;
- adoptive kids who can't get access to their own friggin' medical records due to confidentiality laws re: the birth mother.

Godspeed to those couples who decide to go through with it, but It's not hard to see why some people wouldn't.
 
2013-01-31 09:36:41 AM  
I have had 27 (american) foster siblings, and I can tell you that these kids have major attachment issues. Some never do attach at all. And yea, sociopathic tendencies are a major issue with all of them (that I have managed to stay in contact with) but I don't understand how causing more trauma would be any more beneficial. Sounds like throwing kerosene on an already bad fire.
 
2013-01-31 09:42:10 AM  

GameSprocket: We need to toughen these kids up for the civil war raging in Michigan.


Please tell me my home state has not degraded THAT far.

/It would not surprise me though.
//Had to leave when the economy tanked but hope to return some day
 
2013-01-31 09:44:50 AM  

Old enough to know better:


Or maybe whoever handles adoptions in Russia could actually do background checks instead of handing over children to any foreign family that can write a check?

But that would be socialism! They had enough of that in the USSR days when Pravda was the Communist Party's paper. (I see from wikipedia it is again, if you can call the current CPRF a communist party.)

TFA says "this 'therapy' is recommended in the United States to suppress the will of foster children and make them attach to their foster parents." Isn't suppressing the will the goal of all current US child-rearing practices?  The Wikipedia article does make this paricular version sound goofy:

The common form of attachment therapy is holding therapy, in which a child is firmly held (or lain upon) by therapists or parents. Through this process of restraint and confrontation, therapists seek to produce in the child a range of responses such as rage and despair with the goal of achieving catharsis. In theory, when the child's resistance is overcome and the rage is released, the child is reduced to an infantile state in which he or she can be "re-parented" by methods such as cradling, rocking, bottle feeding and enforced eye contact.


WTF?
 
2013-01-31 09:50:20 AM  
StandsWithAFist:

Godspeed to those couples who decide to go through with it, but It's not hard to see why some people wouldn't.

Yep.  Just buy a kid from a 3rd world country.  Much easier on the adoptive parents, which should obviously be the primary concern.
 
2013-01-31 09:51:55 AM  
The One True TheDavid: [attachment therapy]  The Wikipedia article does make this paricular version sound goofy:

The common form of attachment therapy is holding therapy, in which a child is firmly held (or lain upon) by therapists or parents. Through this process of restraint and confrontation, therapists seek to produce in the child a range of responses such as rage and despair with the goal of achieving catharsis. In theory, when the child's resistance is overcome and the rage is released, the child is reduced to an infantile state in which he or she can be "re-parented" by methods such as cradling, rocking, bottle feeding and enforced eye contact.
WTF?


It's often worse than that. Which is why it is illegal in many places and scorned by all medical and child development professionals who aren't complete whacked idiots. Or Fundies.
 
2013-01-31 09:51:58 AM  
Dreyelle:

Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.

That's the current "race problem": 100 years ago Jews weren't "white," 100 years before then Catholic Irish weren't. Now except for the "Close the border!" crowd all that really matters is that you're not black.

In other words, anti-black racism is indeed deeply built into American society.
 
2013-01-31 09:52:43 AM  

namegoeshere: Mark Ratner: 50+ posts and I wonder if anyone else watched the linked video in the farking article?

/yes, Pravda is a joke, but the video is not.

Seen it many times. It was a Fark article, IIRC. The thing is, this chickie lost custody of her kids and went to jail. And she's HATED and villified in this country. Death threats. TFA is implying that her behavior is acceptable by US standards, and that any Russian children adopted by US parents will be treated the same. Not true. Yes there are some disgusting, abusive farks in this country, both adoptive and bio. But really, is TFA saying that their own country has none?


I did some googling, and all I could find is that she was found guilty of child abuse and sentenced to three years probation and no info whether or not she lost custody of her kids, so I assume she didn't. (She basically did it as a stunt to get on the Dr. Phil show). I agree with you that the article is joke, though
 
2013-01-31 09:54:02 AM  

Dreyelle: I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.


Plenty? Yes. Available? Not really. The US adoption laws were past with the best intentions, but they're so broken and farked up that it can take years to be cleared to adopt a child, and they haven't even shown themselves to be particularly reliable for their stated purpose: weeding out abusers. They've been kept in place out of the (again, well-meaning) idea that they're better than nothing, but to be honest, I'm not so sure that the current implementation is better than nothing.

As for your poorly-concealed cry of racism, the situation is actually considerably more complex. Interracial adoption is a controversial topic in the US, where it was once used as a tool of what we would now call genocide (specifically, forced adoption of the children of native peoples). That potential has tainted discussion of the subject ever since.

The only argument that pro-interracial-adoption folks have is simple pathos: that there are children who need to be loved and would-be parents who want to love children, and vast imbalances in numbers between them when it comes to race, and shouldn't that be enough reason to set race aside and get these kids into homes? But there are many, many people who don't find that convincing. Resistance comes from both sides of just about every spectrum imaginable: both black and white, yes, but also otherwise-opposing schools of thought in sociology, psychology, economics, politics, and many others.
 
2013-01-31 09:56:18 AM  

Mark Ratner: namegoeshere: Mark Ratner: 50+ posts and I wonder if anyone else watched the linked video in the farking article?

/yes, Pravda is a joke, but the video is not.

Seen it many times. It was a Fark article, IIRC. The thing is, this chickie lost custody of her kids and went to jail. And she's HATED and villified in this country. Death threats. TFA is implying that her behavior is acceptable by US standards, and that any Russian children adopted by US parents will be treated the same. Not true. Yes there are some disgusting, abusive farks in this country, both adoptive and bio. But really, is TFA saying that their own country has none?

I did some googling, and all I could find is that she was found guilty of child abuse and sentenced to three years probation and no info whether or not she lost custody of her kids, so I assume she didn't. (She basically did it as a stunt to get on the Dr. Phil show). I agree with you that the article is joke, though


Huh, I must be remembering wrong about the jail time, but she did lose the kids at least temporarily. But to hold her up as the example of American parenting is... odd.

Also, Dr. Phil - is there anything he can't do fark up?
 
2013-01-31 09:56:53 AM  
StrangeQ:

I've been to orphanages in ex-Soviet countries where the kids are all failed abortions. And yes, I mean that literally

Please elaborate. What method of abortion do they use that fails and what are the effects on the fetus/child?
 
2013-01-31 09:58:19 AM  

The One True TheDavid: StrangeQ:

I've been to orphanages in ex-Soviet countries where the kids are all failed abortions. And yes, I mean that literally

Please elaborate. What method of abortion do they use that fails and what are the effects on the fetus/child?


Not going to google, not going to google, not going to google...
 
2013-01-31 09:58:20 AM  
It's no accident they focused in on a family called the  Leszczynskis.  That's the name of Polish nobility, people that Russians have been conditioned to hate and consider inferior for centuries.   link  It's not something Americans are going to get, but it's like waving a red flag in front of a Russian bull.  Bigley, Cravers, Leszczynski... it's all about foreigners, Poles, Brits & Americans being a threat to Russians.

Of course I know nothing about attachment therapy, and it sounds awful, but Putin wouldn't be making such a big deal out of this if it didn't serve another need.
 
2013-01-31 10:05:32 AM  
Alternate Pravda Headlines

Experts Agree:  America Sucks, Russia Rules
Glorious Putin Travels Back in Time, Wins Cold War
Russian Pizza is World's Greatest Pizza
 
2013-01-31 10:06:32 AM  
dr.zaeus:

While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Why would people do that? Why does it matter so much?

I can imagine a kid feeling more special being chosen from a pool of dozens than just happening to pop out because Mommy can't count.
 
2013-01-31 10:15:45 AM  
Whenever the Russian economy is in the toilet, the officials in charge create a new, outrageous strawman to distract the people with.

The current party whipping boy is US parents adopting Russian orphans. Who cares if the new ban on American adoptions leaves thousands of orphans in state run orphanages - the Party now has a safe target for the people's anger: foreigners with no morals.

Hmmm, actually sounds a bit like FOX's MO.
 
2013-01-31 10:16:00 AM  
V Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy.

/And none of either on Fox
 
2013-01-31 10:18:59 AM  

The One True TheDavid: dr.zaeus:

While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Why would people do that? Why does it matter so much?

I can imagine a kid feeling more special being chosen from a pool of dozens than just happening to pop out because Mommy can't count.


It's easy enough to imagine, but instinct doesn't work that way: it says that attachment means biological connection. Overcoming that is something even many adults have trouble with: asking a kid to do it is just too much.
 
2013-01-31 10:19:32 AM  

Private_Citizen: Whenever the Russian economy is in the toilet, the officials in charge create a new, outrageous strawman to distract the people with.

The current party whipping boy is US parents adopting Russian orphans. Who cares if the new ban on American adoptions leaves thousands of orphans in state run orphanages - the Party now has a safe target for the people's anger: foreigners with no morals.

Hmmm, actually sounds a bit like FOX's MO.


Some the US is so adept at, it's spawned an entire industry of award-winning documentaries. This one's on Google, has three hour long episodes, and is utterly awesome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
 
2013-01-31 10:21:32 AM  
If it was one of your previously unknown kids who had been adopted out without your knowledge, I'll bet many of you would be mighty thankful for all the safeguards built in then (especially you military farkers).
 
2013-01-31 10:34:11 AM  
"Jessica Bigley became famous overnight not only in her state of Alaska, but also far beyond its borders."

Could the reporter see Jessica Bigley from his/her back yard?

Good to see that Pravda has returned to it's Soviet propaganda roots.
 
2013-01-31 10:34:33 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Oh great, a Pravda article. The only "news" source posted on here that's less believable than the Daily Fail.


But Pravda means Truth in Russian!! They can't possibly lie with a name like that!!
 
2013-01-31 10:35:10 AM  
Glockenspiel Hero:

I know a lot of people with Chinese adoptees. Interestingly, they are all female- what are the odds?

Oddly enough, sons are so highly valued in Chinese culture that under mainland China's One Child policy girl babies are often unwanted (link),  You'd have a harder time finding a healthy male Chinese baby to adopt.
 
2013-01-31 10:57:55 AM  
They are not all redheaded stepchildren.
 
2013-01-31 11:04:08 AM  

BillCo: I blame the Republicans!


Well actually, you most likely can. Cretins who come up with this sort of junk-science sadism tend to be on the gop side of the fence.
 
2013-01-31 11:10:03 AM  

Millennium: The One True TheDavid: dr.zaeus:

While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Why would people do that? Why does it matter so much?

I can imagine a kid feeling more special being chosen from a pool of dozens than just happening to pop out because Mommy can't count.

It's easy enough to imagine, but instinct doesn't work that way: it says that attachment means biological connection. Overcoming that is something even many adults have trouble with: asking a kid to do it is just too much.


Uh-huh. Like an infant who's too young to even hold her head up cares what color her skin is.

Instinct says any baby will cry, poop and suck. Once a kid is walking and knows she's in an orphanage, e.g., she can be taught that the color of somebody's skin is not a big deal.

There are some innate characteristics of form, function and temperament. Racism is none of the above, and has to be taught early and often in order to form a large and significant part of the personality.
 
2013-01-31 11:23:22 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Glockenspiel Hero:

I know a lot of people with Chinese adoptees. Interestingly, they are all female- what are the odds?

Oddly enough, sons are so highly valued in Chinese culture that under mainland China's One Child policy girl babies are often unwanted (link),  You'd have a harder time finding a healthy male Chinese baby to adopt.


WHOOOOOSH!
 
2013-01-31 11:38:19 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Millennium: The One True TheDavid: dr.zaeus:

While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Why would people do that? Why does it matter so much?

I can imagine a kid feeling more special being chosen from a pool of dozens than just happening to pop out because Mommy can't count.

It's easy enough to imagine, but instinct doesn't work that way: it says that attachment means biological connection. Overcoming that is something even many adults have trouble with: asking a kid to do it is just too much.

Uh-huh. Like an infant who's too young to even hold her head up cares what color her skin is.

Instinct says any baby will cry, poop and suck. Once a kid is walking and knows she's in an orphanage, e.g., she can be taught that the color of somebody's skin is not a big deal.

There are some innate characteristics of form, function and temperament. Racism is none of the above, and has to be taught early and often in order to form a large and significant part of the personality.


I was talking about the parents ability to handle the issue, really.  I know that kids can adapt, but the benefits of not having to have "that talk" with a kid until later in life (if ever) are probably an attractive thing to consider for a parent.
 
2013-01-31 11:41:09 AM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: dr.zaeus: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Dreyelle: In 2007, there were 4,726 children exported from Guatemala to the United States. In 2009, the number reduced to 754, in 2011 - to only 32. Vietnam also banned the "export" of its children. In 2007, U.S. citizens adopted 828 Vietnamese children, in 2010 - 9, in 2011 - 0. Even the Chinese export of children to the U.S. has decreased by 50% over the past five years.

I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.  perfect.

I for one am shocked that the predominately white pool of adoptive parents might want to seek out children of their own race.  While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Nah, what am I saying?  This is obviously a sign that Americans are racist and hate black kids, right?

I said nothing about RACE.  I used PERFECT.  As in less than 8 weeks old, perfectly healthy, correct eye color, correct hair color, correct genetic markers.

YOU are the one who brought up race.  I'll thank you in advance to not put words down that I did not use.

So who's the racist now?  Hm?


Lighten up, and please unscrew those panties for a second.  I accidentally used your post with the redaction and "perfect" edit instead of the original one, which blatantly mentioned race.

Living life on a hair trigger like this, ready to throw a rod at any perceived slight, is going to lead to an early grave.
 
2013-01-31 11:59:18 AM  

Earpj: Happy Hours:
So they told you not to let your kids watch Barney?

/torture for the adults

Gads! The hours of watching Barney! UGH.
Granted, when I was early pregnant with my 2nd, and exhausted 24/7, I could pop in "Barney Live" for my 2 yr old and snooze on the couch for 45 minutes. Only to be roused to rewind it or get her a drink.

/Everything has pros and cons.


One word: Caillou.
 
2013-01-31 12:02:23 PM  

dr.zaeus: Satan's Bunny Slippers: dr.zaeus: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Dreyelle: In 2007, there were 4,726 children exported from Guatemala to the United States. In 2009, the number reduced to 754, in 2011 - to only 32. Vietnam also banned the "export" of its children. In 2007, U.S. citizens adopted 828 Vietnamese children, in 2010 - 9, in 2011 - 0. Even the Chinese export of children to the U.S. has decreased by 50% over the past five years.

I'm good with this. Would-be parents in the US should look for children in the US. There are plenty available. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't all non-black.  perfect.

I for one am shocked that the predominately white pool of adoptive parents might want to seek out children of their own race.  While most parents will inform the child later in life about their origins, I can't believe that many would want to have a child of a different race because it's easier to keep the lie going into adolescence and pretend that it "could be" their biological child.

Nah, what am I saying?  This is obviously a sign that Americans are racist and hate black kids, right?

I said nothing about RACE.  I used PERFECT.  As in less than 8 weeks old, perfectly healthy, correct eye color, correct hair color, correct genetic markers.

YOU are the one who brought up race.  I'll thank you in advance to not put words down that I did not use.

So who's the racist now?  Hm?

Lighten up, and please unscrew those panties for a second.  I accidentally used your post with the redaction and "perfect" edit instead of the original one, which blatantly mentioned race.

Living life on a hair trigger like this, ready to throw a rod at any perceived slight, is going to lead to an early grave.



Ah, I see.

Sorry then.  Carry on.  My bad.
 
2013-01-31 12:11:09 PM  

Earpj: I've read lots of parenting books in my 21 years of child raising (I was going to say 'rearing', but I remembered where I was) I don't recall actual torture in any of those books. The worst I can remember is letting a baby cry it out. (That didn't work for me).


I'm not finding it now, but there was a TED talk that referenced the belief that you could 'train' babies by not giving them attention and letting them cry.  Studies show that not only does it not work, it's actually harmful to their development.

Turns out that they're not at a stage where they can learn via conditioning or positive/negative reinforcement.  The thing that will be most likely to make them stop crying (assuming it's not due to hunger, gas pains, etc), is to present them with something familiar - like a parent holding them.  This also helps them learn how to understand human interaction and develop a sense of empathy, as compared to the ignored child, who may eventually be mentally or emotionally stunted!
 
2013-01-31 12:13:49 PM  
Can someone link me to the infamous "Civil war in Michigan" Pravda story? Cause I really want to read it now.
 
2013-01-31 12:17:33 PM  
I've said it before, but I hate uncertainty.  So for me, adopting a kid with known issues is much better, than having a perfectly normal or average child that gets into a terrible accident and becomes much different.  I feel awful when I read about some family, full of life and great expectations being reduced to grieving the loss of dreams and hopeful futures.

I'm just weird that way.  Tell me not to get my hopes up, give me the little wretch, and let's see what miracles develop.  It's not easy, but local adoption really works for me, versus the uncertainty of international adoption.
 
2013-01-31 12:34:03 PM  

megarian: Earpj: Happy Hours:
So they told you not to let your kids watch Barney?

/torture for the adults

Gads! The hours of watching Barney! UGH.
Granted, when I was early pregnant with my 2nd, and exhausted 24/7, I could pop in "Barney Live" for my 2 yr old and snooze on the couch for 45 minutes. Only to be roused to rewind it or get her a drink.

/Everything has pros and cons.

One word: Caillou.


I don't know if it was around yet. Those kids are 21 and, almost, 19.

Moved on to Blue's Clues and Dora with later offspring.
 
2013-01-31 12:34:28 PM  

dr.zaeus: The One True TheDavid:

[...]

There are some innate characteristics of form, function and temperament. Racism is none of the above, and has to be taught early and often in order to form a large and significant part of the personality.

I was talking about the parents ability to handle the issue, really.  I know that kids can adapt, but the benefits of not having to have "that talk" with a kid until later in life (if ever) are probably an attractive thing to consider for a parent.


Should people so racist and cowardly be allowed to rear kids?

How would they handle other important discussions, like "Your Changing Body" and "No Means NO?"

Of course racism works in several ways concerning this stuff. One is black-on-black: the idea that it's better for a black kid to grow to 18 in an orphanage than to be "raised white."

(We wouldn't have this problem if aborted fetuses were an expensive medicinal delicacy and if parents were still allowed to sell unwanted kids as slaves.)

 
2013-01-31 12:38:26 PM  
dr.zaeus:

Living life on a hair trigger like this, ready to throw a rod at any perceived slight, is going to lead to an early grave.

So they say, but I ain't been so lucky yet.
 
2013-01-31 12:45:27 PM  
i always come to fark for my child rearing advice, maybe that was their problem? also for dating and invest tips

don't spank your children, that's child abuse

if your son wants to play with barbies, encourage him and helicopter him for safety if his friends are afraid of him

dang this is hard, i'm just gunna let TV/Internet raise em, problem solved

i'll just send them here, be sure you guys take good care of them, kthanx bai
 
2013-01-31 12:47:19 PM  

BillCo: I blame the Republicans!


vote democrat
 
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