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(LA Times)   Not news: Drug lab in motel room blows up. News: Takes out the surrounding rooms (pic), leaves a man on fire from head to toe, and busies firefighters for 45 minutes. Fark: No meth here - they were processing marijuana   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 57
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2013-01-31 12:53:25 AM
The 20-year-old woman and 21-year-old man were using butane as a heat source in the process, when the man lighted a cigarette, causing the explosion, officials said.

So your classic dumb-asses then...
 
2013-01-31 01:13:00 AM
Wow.

It's botannical! It grows with sunlight, asshole!

This should be on a 3rd-grade standardized test.

"Your 'father' just ignited 2 tons of marijuana. What should you do?
A. Let him burn out. That ain't my daddy
B. Let part of it burn to teach him a lesson, but that means I get to go to a foster home
C. I should have used kerosene and I woudln't have to take this stupid test.
 
2013-01-31 01:21:18 AM
they weren't using butane as a heat source, they were making BHO.

and no, they weren't making the president. Butane Honey Oil.
 
2013-01-31 02:11:35 AM
I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?

And can't you just roll the buds in your hands and scrape them off? What's the point of the heat source?
 
2013-01-31 02:44:15 AM

fusillade762: I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?


typically it's not my bag either, but it's the same reason people make 190 proof grain alcohol. concentration will lead to ingesting more than you would otherwise. the THC/CBD/Other-alphabet-soup component ratio is different without the plant matter being there, so there are some applications where that'd matter, too.

it is easier to smuggle a smaller thing, but the penalties in most places are more severe, too - so that's kind of a wash.

What's the point of the heat source?

typically there is no heat source - people use a solvent to extract the goodies from the plant matter, then let the solvent evaporate, leaving nothing but the extraction/oil. these idiots were using butane - i doubt they were using butane to heat the evaporating butane, or else it wouldn't have taken a cigarette to blow their asses up.
 
2013-01-31 02:58:02 AM

fusillade762: I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?

And can't you just roll the buds in your hands and scrape them off? What's the point of the heat source?


I asked some old hippie potheads the same thing, and after all their jokes and laughing the consensus was that it was easier to smuggle. One of them told a story about bringing a boot stuffed full of hash back from Vietnam, and selling it put him through college.
 
2013-01-31 03:14:24 AM

violentsalvation: fusillade762: I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?

And can't you just roll the buds in your hands and scrape them off? What's the point of the heat source?

I asked some old hippie potheads the same thing, and after all their jokes and laughing the consensus was that it was easier to smuggle. One of them told a story about bringing a boot stuffed full of hash back from Vietnam, and selling it put him through college.


The reason I thought that was because when I was in England the only stuff anyone seemed to have was hash. Obviously England doesn't have the best growing conditions for weed.
 
2013-01-31 07:09:54 AM
So that's where all the Cheetos went.
 
2013-01-31 07:29:07 AM
I blame the Republicans!
 
2013-01-31 07:59:51 AM
FTA:  "The incident is being investigated by agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration."


Whar Butane Enforcement Administration?

Whar?
 
2013-01-31 08:02:03 AM
img.photobucket.com

That explains why they were in a hotel room.
 
2013-01-31 08:33:42 AM
Then they were doing it wrong.
 
2013-01-31 08:34:43 AM
It's really not that hard - just go outside.  Y'know, not in a confined area in which the butane can accumulate.

And for the love of Harold, don't light a f*cking cigarette.
 
2013-01-31 08:37:48 AM
I don't get what happened. If they were using a butane heater to cook or whatever, wouldn't it be lit already?
 
2013-01-31 08:45:36 AM
well, that's what you get for lighteding a cigarette
 
2013-01-31 08:47:14 AM
"Lighted a cigarette" versus "lit a cigarette". I'm sure "lighted" is technically correct, but damn that's a weird usage.
 
2013-01-31 08:48:28 AM
This is the point where people make the mistake of pointing to this incident as an indicator for why drugs are bad, instead of an indicator for why prohibition is bad.
 
2013-01-31 08:50:33 AM

violentsalvation: I asked some old hippie potheads the same thing, and after all their jokes and laughing the consensus was that it was easier to smuggle. One of them told a story about bringing a boot stuffed full of hash back from Vietnam, and selling it put him through college.


VEIP is much less risky.
 
2013-01-31 08:51:04 AM

PirateKing: This is the point where people make the mistake of pointing to this incident as an indicator for why drugs are bad, instead of an indicator for why prohibition is bad.


I think it's an argument for a better education system.

"HEY KIDS! Pay attention to the hazard symbols on chemicals. And no open flames around gasses. Seriously."
 
2013-01-31 08:52:14 AM
Heh, when the news showed this yesterday it seemed like all they could find was meth users to interview.
 
2013-01-31 08:54:29 AM
I agree, this honey oil business is gross.  But good tootsie roll hash is very cool, so I hear...
 
2013-01-31 08:56:23 AM
Was Zombie Gus spotted on the property?
 
2013-01-31 08:58:57 AM

ModernLuddite: PirateKing: This is the point where people make the mistake of pointing to this incident as an indicator for why drugs are bad, instead of an indicator for why prohibition is bad.

I think it's an argument for a better education system.

"HEY KIDS! Pay attention to the hazard symbols on chemicals. And no open flames around gasses. Seriously."


www.medicinefilms.com
 
2013-01-31 09:00:24 AM
BHO is bad juju.  I'll stick to ISO Hash making and then use that to make butter, Green Dragon, etc.
 
2013-01-31 09:02:04 AM
I'm staying at the hotel across the street, there were a swarm of cops and news vans here after I got back from the conference here, I didn't know that this is what happened...
 
2013-01-31 09:03:01 AM
They were probably high, the flame on the butane torch probably went out and they assumed it was off, then the butane filled the room, maybe while they were farking.  Afterward, dude lights ("lighted"???) a cigarette and BOOM!  Richard Pryor.

Which is why I avoid stoned people in situations where potentially dangerous materials are present.  Too many people think since pot is less harmful than alcohol that it's harmless and just makes everything nice and tasty.  It also makes you a dumbass that forgets things, and sometimes fumbles shiat.

And no, you do not drive better while stoned.  That is a stoner myth.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/02/09/smoke-an d- mirrors-driving-while-on-marijuana-doubles-ones-chances-of-a-serious-c ar-crash/
 
2013-01-31 09:06:57 AM

ModernLuddite: "Lighted a cigarette" versus "lit a cigarette". I'm sure "lighted" is technically correct, but damn that's a weird usage.


I'm pretty sure it should be lit.  Past participle.
 
2013-01-31 09:07:04 AM

heap: they weren't using butane as a heat source, they were making BHO.

and no, they weren't making the president. Butane Honey Oil.


Pretty much this, yeah.

/i don't make butane extracted oil for this very sort of reason
//isopropyl or ethanol and no direct heat
 
2013-01-31 09:09:19 AM
I didn't even realize that was a thing in the USA.  The only "hash oil? I've ever seen for sale was clearly just scraped resin from a pipe.  But then I'm pretty far from major cities.
 
2013-01-31 09:09:27 AM
Remember, this text was brought to you by a journalism major.
 
2013-01-31 09:12:20 AM
fusillade762: "Obviously England doesn't have the best growing conditions for weed."

Have they no fish tanks?
 
2013-01-31 09:18:08 AM
I used to have HIV, then I took an arrow to the knee.
 
2013-01-31 09:18:36 AM

lordjupiter: They were probably high, the flame on the butane torch probably went out and they assumed it was off, then the butane filled the room, maybe while they were farking.  Afterward, dude lights ("lighted"???) a cigarette and BOOM!  Richard Pryor.

Which is why I avoid stoned people in situations where potentially dangerous materials are present.  Too many people think since pot is less harmful than alcohol that it's harmless and just makes everything nice and tasty.  It also makes you a dumbass that forgets things, and sometimes fumbles shiat.

And no, you do not drive better while stoned.  That is a stoner myth.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/02/09/smoke-an d- mirrors-driving-while-on-marijuana-doubles-ones-chances-of-a-serious-c ar-crash/


Yes, but on the plus side, your mom loves when I get her stoned and stick my cock in her ass...
 
2013-01-31 09:19:38 AM
nekom

I didn't even realize that was a thing in the USA. The only "hash oil? I've ever seen for sale was clearly just scraped resin from a pipe. But then I'm pretty far from major cities.

Real hash oil you have to put the marijuana seeds in a "juicer" similar to the ones people use for oranges and press the oil out of them. The device is very small and fragile so it takes a skilled hand to extract as much oil from the seed without cracking the shell and parts falling in.

/hick
 
2013-01-31 09:19:48 AM
dopekitty74:

//isopropyl or ethanol and no direct heat

about the only use i have for hash is in cooking, so stickyfunkyoil isn't really what i'm after, but the few times i've done a solvent extraction, ISO made a lot more sense than other more explodey options.

for my lazy ass, dry ice and an old bubble bag works perfectly.
 
2013-01-31 09:24:46 AM

lordjupiter: Which is why I avoid stoned people in situations where potentially dangerous materials are present.  Too many people think since pot is less harmful than alcohol that it's harmless and just makes everything nice and tasty.  It also makes you a dumbass that forgets things, and sometimes fumbles shiat.

And no, you do not drive better while stoned.  That is a stoner myth.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/02/09/smoke-an d- mirrors-driving-while-on-marijuana-doubles-ones-chances-of-a-serious-c ar-crash/


Well, I certainly hope that your post makes the zero people in this thread who you just argued against feel stupid!
 
2013-01-31 09:24:48 AM

lordjupiter: They were probably high, the flame on the butane torch probably went out and they assumed it was off, then the butane filled the room, maybe while they were farking.  Afterward, dude lights ("lighted"???) a cigarette and BOOM!  Richard Pryor.

Which is why I avoid stoned people in situations where potentially dangerous materials are present.  Too many people think since pot is less harmful than alcohol that it's harmless and just makes everything nice and tasty.  It also makes you a dumbass that forgets things, and sometimes fumbles shiat.

And no, you do not drive better while stoned.  That is a stoner myth.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/02/09/smoke-an d- mirrors-driving-while-on-marijuana-doubles-ones-chances-of-a-serious-c ar-crash/


So they 'sifted' through 9 previous studies that failed to prove a significant connection of weed with bad driving and then cherry picked data to show that it does.  Then your article goes on to quote someone who merely read the study.  Nice. I'm sure it's totes legit.

Also, the guys in this hotel room were not heating anything, they were making BHO and got used to the smell and (being that they were in a hotel room, probably didn't have a window open).  This let the fumes build up and some nicotine addict absentmindedly lit up.  This was tobacco's fault.
 
2013-01-31 09:30:09 AM
marijuana death toll: almost 2
 
2013-01-31 09:31:05 AM

BillCo: I blame the Republicans!


I noticed this unimaginative troll in the monkey thread, too.
May I gently remind you to STFU?
 
2013-01-31 10:02:16 AM
there are different ways to make "honey"...  what sort of "solvent" used depends on what type of equipment you are playing with.

butane has it's advantages , ease of use, easy to buy, and cheap.

then again, any dumb ass doing this in an inclosed space, with out proper ventilation, or smoking anywhere NEAR it is a moron.
 
2013-01-31 10:06:18 AM

ModernLuddite: "Lighted a cigarette" versus "lit a cigarette". I'm sure "lighted" is technically correct, but damn that's a weird usage.


I think technically lighted is more correct than lit. I know an author I enjoy reading often uses that tense. Still sounds weird to say.
 
2013-01-31 10:14:53 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: nekom

I didn't even realize that was a thing in the USA. The only "hash oil? I've ever seen for sale was clearly just scraped resin from a pipe. But then I'm pretty far from major cities.

Real hash oil you have to put the marijuana seeds in a "juicer" similar to the ones people use for oranges and press the oil out of them. The device is very small and fragile so it takes a skilled hand to extract as much oil from the seed without cracking the shell and parts falling in.

/hick


call me a stoner, but I think you're writing about hemp oil, as seeds contain negligible amounts if any THC.
 
2013-01-31 10:29:50 AM
Figured it was idiot oil-heads before I clicked the link, I was not dissapointed. There is a reason that crazy hippies back in the day generally made BHO in dedicated shacks away from their main dwelling...
 
2013-01-31 10:31:09 AM
Last weekend my college roommate came into town, hadn't seen him in 10 years.  We smoked the whole night, I don't think I left the chair once.  Woke up in the morning with a slipped disc.

Remember kids: weed is bad for you.
 
2013-01-31 10:31:22 AM

heap: dopekitty74:

//isopropyl or ethanol and no direct heat

about the only use i have for hash is in cooking, so stickyfunkyoil isn't really what i'm after, but the few times i've done a solvent extraction, ISO made a lot more sense than other more explodey options.

for my lazy ass, dry ice and an old bubble bag works perfectly.


If i want hash, i just clean all the crystal out of the coffee grinder i use to bust my weed, then usng pressure and whatever sweat is on my fingers to make chunks of hash. I haven't made oil in a few years because i haven't had access to vast amounts of trim, but i love the stuff.
 
2013-01-31 10:57:05 AM
 
2013-01-31 10:57:51 AM
WTF, fark told me explicitly that weed is nothing but sunshine and goodness?
 
2013-01-31 11:01:23 AM

violentsalvation: fusillade762: I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?

And can't you just roll the buds in your hands and scrape them off? What's the point of the heat source?

I asked some old hippie potheads the same thing, and after all their jokes and laughing the consensus was that it was easier to smuggle. One of them told a story about bringing a boot stuffed full of hash back from Vietnam, and selling it put him through college.


So if it weren't for his boot, he wouldn't have spent that year in college?
 
2013-01-31 11:17:10 AM

kombat_unit: WTF, fark told me explicitly that weed is nothing but sunshine and goodness?


Weed didn't do this.  Idiots did.
 
2013-01-31 11:36:32 AM

fusillade762: I don't understand the point of hash. I find it nasty, personally. Is it simply because it's easier to smuggle or something?

And can't you just roll the buds in your hands and scrape them off? What's the point of the heat source?


Back in the day I *cough* used to partake and found hash to be quite tasty.  Thumbtack & glass method was very effective, as was lacing a doob with the stuff.
 
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